A Bit Worried...

[pinkace]

No one is EVER online from the friends i have added. Not from here or IGN. Is there something wrong with my system? am I missing a step?

[rickfrior]

If you've added THEIR Friend Codes, they'll have to add YOURS as well.
Or maybe they play in different times.

[pinkace]

I added you a long time ago rick. I went to the player matchup and saw that you and some three other people were playing. I added the other 2 codes, went online, and no one was on.

can you test with me just for a moment?

[rickfrior]

Oh, you've added me?
Well, then I should add you now!

[pinkace]

I am on now....

yea, you are like, 10th on the list.

I had to change DSi's because my right trigger died (again). Sucks that the code is tied to the combination of system and game card. it should be one or the other, not both

[rickfrior]

I am now too.
Are you sure you've added my FC? <<<<

[pinkace]

I am now too.
Are you sure you've added my FC? <<<<


yes, double confirmed just now.

WTF!!

Also disconnected and verified that my FC on the left is the right one.

[rickfrior]

Right trigger, you say?
Try blowing on it to take away the dust!

And I don't see you, while other people are busy playing.

.....I have no idea how to fix this.
Are you using the ROM?

[pinkace]

yes, I am using R4DSi. I have the game cart but its a different FC.

i will just go to form party and wait. When you get tired of trying, let me know, I will form a party and come find you.

[rickfrior]

LOL, but I can't even see you on, I can't tell whether you're making a group.

Oh, I think I know the problem.
I heard that you had to download a patch to see other players when using the R4 series.
Research that a bit, it might answer your question.

[pinkace]

well, lets try the official cart then.


hang on....


Try this FC: 4426 2773 0206

[rickfrior]

I see you now. The 4426-2773-0206 FC.
Anyhow, I got to eat lunch! :p
Didn't help much...sorry!

[pinkace]

I see you!!!! How do I join you....?

[rickfrior]

Oh, sorry, I just finished eating! ^^
You should change your FC in your mini-profile <<<<

[pinkace]

I have already built my characters on the R4DSi version.

I'll see if i can patch it. I have been searching for an hour and got nowhere. If I can't find this then I'll have to carry two cards

Ugh.... there are so many problems playing this game on R4DSi... turns out some peopel only find green boxes, some people freeze when online... its a mess.

Im gonna have to start over on the official card, will change my FC and stuff.

[rickfrior]

Whoa...I didn't expect it'd turn out this complex in the end...

[RrD555]

I have already built my characters on the R4DSi version.

I'll see if i can patch it. I have been searching for an hour and got nowhere. If I can't find this then I'll have to carry two cards

Ugh.... there are so many problems playing this game on R4DSi... turns out some peopel only find green boxes, some people freeze when online... its a mess.

Im gonna have to start over on the official card, will change my FC and stuff.


English roms have a lot of problems...(i think...)

i had a english rom first, and basically only found green boxes, and as you said, it freezes when playing online and can't see people online.

I have jap version now and it works perfectly. (at least one red/orange box from almost every container and no problem online)

[Paralys]

I can't say that it's the English ROM causing it, most likely the flash card. the R4's that work on DSi aren't official, as the R4 team was disbanded ages ago after legal trouble with Nintendo. (see wikipedia)

The R4 models that function on DSi are instead groups who use the R4 name unoffically since it sells well. I've heard of all sorts of problems with these kind of clone carts, on DSi, DSL, and no matter whether its an english rom or not.

I've been running the game on a CycloDS Evolution and it's ran fine for me, even online using an English ROM, also no other weird glitches as I've finished the game on Normal save for the cake shop quest and found a Star Cloak (red box) after fighting heaven's mother.

[pinkace]

I have a problem with the idea that one flash card is "official" and one is not. The original R4 "team" was just a hong kong hacker working part time from his udon delivery boy job. he had some gaming buddies help him out with some code, but he could not count on their help during the day because they were in class.

All of these flash cards are hack jobs, done by hackers with crazy ideas.

Even the original was made in China or Taiwan using the cheapest parts and designed by some teenage math genius, also on his own time outside the office where he works as a mail boy.


In short, there is no such thing as a superior card, because they are all the same crap.

[Paralys]

In short, there is no such thing as a superior card, because they are all the same crap.

I hate to semi-derail the thread, but that isn't quite true. There are flash carts that are superior to others, thus the reason that some cards go for higher prices than others do.

Check out reviews on GBATemp and sites like that, though they all maybe used for loading homebrew and "backups", various cards have different compatibility and features. I can vouch for this first hand.

I owned an R4 for about a year and now I own a CycloDS Evolution, the two differ greatly, the Cyclo has: SDHC compatibilty, a much larger compatibility list for roms without patching, frequent firmware updates to make backups function, in game .txt file reader, so you can open a text file while playing a ROM and look things up (like guides on where to catch pokemon or something of the sort), in game speed control (same effects as reducing clockspeed on the DS), automatic DLDI patching, stealth mode for games with extra copy protection, and etc.

I'm not trying to make a plug for the Cyclo, as the R4 is a decent card as well (I wouldn't have used it for so long if it wasn't.) But the fact that they're "all the same crap" just doesn't really hold up.

[RrD555]

I hate to semi-derail the thread, but that isn't quite true. There are flash carts that are superior to others, thus the reason that some cards go for higher prices than others do.




I agree
but even if they are the same price, it differ by a lot though

i had R4 and now have a ttds...glad i switched.

[pinkace]

Its ok to derail it, I already got my answer :)

What I am saying is, it's not as if any of the companies that make these cards have superior manufacturing processes, quality control, and a proper R&D setup. From concept to creation these are all hack jobs by definition, made clandestinely in some obscure part of the world. Are we forgetting that they are making an extremely illegal product?

[Paralys]

Its ok to derail it, I already got my answer :)

Well lol Long as it's ok to derail it. :P I realize that not all flashcarts are of top notch hardware quality, but in the same breath, the R&D isn't always that bad, many cards have beta revisions for their firmware. 1.56 for my cyclo had 7 beta revisions before it was released officially.

I suppose quality control is another matter all together, and that complaint is understandable with all the sub-par cards that make it onto the market but that just boils down to the fact that people should be doing their own research prior to purchasing a product (always read those reviews :D).

As far as legality goes though, that's disputable. Using ROMs that you don't own is illegal. However, the cards themselves aren't. (Note Here (http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=38047) Nintendo Vs. Divneo)

[Chukie sue]

Well lol Long as it's ok to derail it. :P I realize that not all flashcarts are of top notch hardware quality, but in the same breath, the R&D isn't always that bad, many cards have beta revisions for their firmware. 1.56 for my cyclo had 7 beta revisions before it was released officially.

I suppose quality control is another matter all together, and that complaint is understandable with all the sub-par cards that make it onto the market but that just boils down to the fact that people should be doing their own research prior to purchasing a product (always read those reviews :D).

As far as legality goes though, that's disputable. Using ROMs that you don't own is illegal. However, the cards themselves aren't. (Note Here (http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=38047) Nintendo Vs. Divneo)

I agree, HOLY CRAP.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

That is big but it seems to only apply to Europe as of the info provided/where the court cases took place, etc. More homebrew, apps, and such for Nintendo handhelds won't exactly be a bad thing. Nintendo could even have more ways of allowing creators to offer their works through their services/stores.

Asia region and exporting product to N.America/West Countries should still be under all applicable laws regarding piracy/loaders & rom rips.

[Dhylec]

Closed due to OP's concern is resolved & topic is derailed.