Bonuses Announced for PC/PS2 Servers

[Ryna]

Since no else has created a thread for this news, I will.

The following bonuses were announced (http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=318853) a little bit ago by Edward:


Attention, GUARDIANS!

Next week when MAG+ ends, PC/PS2 servers will receive a number of additional bonuses. This is a thank you for players and will be in effect until the servers shut down.

Shut down time is currently slated for 12:00 Midnight on March 31st (to clarify, March 31st is the last day of server activity; when the clock strikes Midnight on that day, servers will go down).

Below are the special bonuses:

- Super Holy / Three Star Luck -- All Players
- Weapon/Armor Synth Rate +20%
- Weapon Grind Boost +15%
- Vol Coins boost x10
- Free Beauty Salon / 50% discount clothes and parts
- Photon Art Experience Boost


So how useful will these bonuses be for people?

I'll probably use the Voloyal Casino Coin Boosts to purchase a couple of Chevalier Edges. The Synth boost will be nice for the last few boards I want to synth. Besides that, I was hoping for something epic like a crazy droprate boost. Lumilass and clothing costs haven't been an issue since the early of PSU's release.

[Ash1ey]

Vol Coins are probably all I'll really make use of :P

[Mysterious-G]

A bunch of useless goodbye presents. Still the best they can deliver I suppose.

[Halcyote]

Drop rate boost would've been fantastic.

Oh well, I guess I can just spend the rest of my days leveling up PAs.

[Mimo]

PSU is ending for some of us and this is all they will give? -cries-

[Danny_Dark]

Useless Crap...

[ashley50]

what's the point? lol

[Ezodagrom]

No drop or exp boost? Lame...

[Neith]

I'm sure the synth and grind boosts will be really useful for when we need to run higher level missions-

OWAIT.

While the thought was there, it's completely pointless. Clothes have never been an expense issue outside of the first 2 weeks of play, luck/grind/PA and synth bonuses would only matter if the servers weren't shutting down, and the other boosts are only limited use anyway.

I don't know, it seems stupid to me.

[Splash]

Despite the fact that everything is going to end very soon, they are still majorly reluctant on giving away "bigger" stuff. That's just sad.

[Alnet]

So how useful will these bonuses be for people?
Not at all, lol. So I guess I'll just come back for a day to check my mail in the slight odds anyone left me an email or IM address or something.

Despite the fact that everything is going to end very soon, they are still majorly reluctant on giving away "bigger" stuff. That's just sad.
Well, the resulting storm from the remaining active platform (every other one but this one) would be tremendous. They're killing off one set of PSU players. If they did that, then they'd lose even more people out of jealousy just for letting us have all the endgame items before the servers shut down.

It's like that daytime talk show I used to watch coming home from school. One day, there was a kid with albinism or something, who had an allergy to solar radiation. The host gives him a rare Pokemon card in an attempt to lift his spirits. It would be remarkably immature to be jealous of said kid in this situation. But some people are like that.

[Zeek123]

Playing PSU has been like being in a relationship where the other person doesn't really love you back, just sticks around to take advantage of you.

I AM NOT YOUR WHORE, SEGA!

[Hiero_Glyph]

Despite the fact that everything is going to end very soon, they are still majorly reluctant on giving away "bigger" stuff. That's just sad.

As a former 360 PSU addict I don't see the problem in giving away the kitchen sink since there will be no transfer option and the servers are getting closed. The bottom line is that SEGA doesn't care about these servers. Why would you expect them to put forth effort when they have never done that in the past?

It would have been nice for them to provide both of the items required to unlock the Edel weapons though seeing as how these are all but impossible for the PS2 players to attain. Besides, as these are account bound weapons it would not harm anything. It would also give a purpose for the grind boost for many players and make the last month a little more enjoyable.

It is somewhat appropriate that as a final gift SEGA has given the PC/PS2 servers reused rewards.

[Syl]

Honestly, I would have been entertained with the idea of having everything given a crazy bonus such as 50%+ drop rates on rares and etc.

[Dhylec]

Well, this is US/EU PC/PS2's official last 'hurray'. I wish I have the energy to celebrate. ;3

[PepperCat]

Playing PSU has been like being in a relationship where the other person doesn't really love you back, just sticks around to take advantage of you.

I AM NOT YOUR WHORE, SEGA!

I lol'd.... epic post.

[Splash]

Well, the resulting storm from the remaining active platform (every other one but this one) would be tremendous. They're killing off one set of PSU players. If they did that, then they'd lose even more people out of jealousy just for letting us have all the endgame items before the servers shut down.

It's like that daytime talk show I used to watch coming home from school. One day, there was a kid with albinism or something, who had an allergy to solar radiation. The host gives him a rare Pokemon card in an attempt to lift his spirits. It would be remarkably immature to be jealous of said kid in this situation. But some people are like that.
Well I'm not asking for something "big" like hand out strong weapons like candy, because yeah I agree other platforms would be jealous about it. I'm just saying that what is offered now has little meaning and they should have thrown in some extra stuff (like someone else mentioned, EXP or drop rate boost) for the fact that none of it is going to matter once the server closes.


As a former 360 PSU addict I don't see the problem in giving away the kitchen sink since there will be no transfer option and the servers are getting closed. The bottom line is that SEGA doesn't care about these servers. Why would you expect them to put forth effort when they have never done that in the past?

It would have been nice for them to provide both of the items required to unlock the Edel weapons though seeing as how these are all but impossible for the PS2 players to attain. Besides, as these are account bound weapons it would not harm anything. It would also give a purpose for the grind boost for many players and make the last month a little more enjoyable.

It is somewhat appropriate that as a final gift SEGA has given the PC/PS2 servers reused rewards.
Like I said, I don't want them to throw "everything" at us because it would be like Alnet said and it may create a problem with the active platforms. But I was hoping they would at least understand that there are still people who play PSU on PC/PS2 server after all this time and those who held on for this long should be given more than just a simple PA boost, clothes price reduction, free makeover, increased luck, get more coin prizes, and easy grinding capabilities.

[Proff]

What a fucking joke. This is what that list should have been:

- Super Holy / Three Star Luck -- All Players
- Weapon/Armor Synth Rate GUARANTEED 100%
- Weapon/Armor result ALWAYS 50% element
- Weapon Grinds cannot fail
- Vol Coins boost x50
- Free Beauty Salon / free clothes and parts / all clothes and parts available in salon
- All Photon Arts level 10x faster
- Rare Drop rate increased 500%
- Experience boost 1000%
- Level cap raised to 200

I mean come on. The game's going to shut down for these guys, what's the harm? In fact, sell all S-Rank weapons in the npc shops.

[Cranberry]

Ah but someone did make a topic about this. I gave PSO-World it's first notice of these updates. http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175846

I'm not going to complain about the boosts. Look, Edward is doing everything he can for us and I get the impression that he really had to battle with Sega of Japan even to get us this. If not for Edward I believe that we would be getting nothing at all.

These boosts at least let us go out with a bang. That's really what it's all about. It's about making the most out of the last few weeks that we can. Edward would have loved for us to get more, but it is simply beyond his power to do so. He's not a miracle worker.

I appreciate that he got this for us. It's better than nothing. At least I can go out with some nicely grinded weapons and I'll be able to get that gun in the Casino I always wanted but couldn't save up enough coins for.

[Chuck_Norris]

I love how everyone's complaining about free boosts.

[Proff]

I love how everyone's complaining about free boosts.

$9.99/month isn't free. And how far have we fallen behind the Japanese updates over the last several years?

[Koiwai_Keiji]

Exactly, free boost complaints for items that will vanish for good. Its like complaining over crumbs, no offense. Just enjoy what's left, at least knowing that if you get a high attribute and high grind its still rare. I wish I could go online and give away some items, someone else could probably enjoy a 10/10 yasha or even some spares for sange yasha.

[Blueblur]

As a casual PSU player who subbed to the PC version out of curiosity, this is still appalling. The game is being shut down forever and they're aren't at least giving players the opportunity to get tons of rares and guaranteeing grinds. This is pathetic. Sega of Japan, screw you.

[Danny_Dark]

SEGA !, I Am Not Amused !!!

[PepperCat]

SEGA... I AM DISAPPOINT.

[Cracka_J]

Sega still finds inspiring new ways to troll this community, even on it's deathbed.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't impressed.

[blazingsonic]

Segac to the end I see.

[Shou]

Everyone who played PC should join JP. It will be free pretty soon. I would not recomment joining the Xbox servers. It will still be the same SEGAC bullshit. Why move from an abusive parent to another abusive parent?

[BahnKnakyu]

The reason why we're "complaining" about free boosts is because it MAKES NO SENSE to not give inflated rates to a server that will be shut down for good. It won't affect the end product, yes; we'll still be out of a server, but it's a damn good representation of the shitting that SoJ has been doing on the Western community.

I'm surprised there are still Sega apologists in this thread despite how SoJ has repeatedly beaten us over the head like an abused red headed stepchild. Edit: I'd like to add I'm not blaming SoA - SoA are more or less the puppets of SoJ, so I'm pretty damn sure the Robotech Masters over at SoJ headquarters were the ones responsible for ruining the Western community.

[LanCow13]

we should have just got the a hack server type boost
PA BOOST 10000000000%
grind boost 100% (no fails)
exp boost 500%
drop rate boost (1000000000000%)

our last two weeks should be party party party party :bday:

[Halcyote]

The reason why we're "complaining" about free boosts is because it MAKES NO SENSE to not give inflated rates to a server that will be shut down for good. It won't affect the end product, yes; we'll still be out of a server, but it's a damn good representation of the shitting that SoJ has been doing on the Western community.
It doesn't matter anyway. Yeah, sure it'd be nice to have hax drop rates, but even if we didn't get some sort of bonus, it doesn't change that the servers will close. We'll just have to make the best of it like we've been doing.



I'm surprised there are still Sega apologists in this thread despite how SoJ has repeatedly beaten us over the head like an abused red headed stepchild. Edit: I'd like to add I'm not blaming SoA - SoA are more or less the puppets of SoJ, so I'm pretty damn sure the Robotech Masters over at SoJ headquarters were the ones responsible for ruining the Western community.
I'm starting to blame SoA for just being lazy now. Especially if Edward's ridiculous claims of faster updates and closing the content gap end up being true.

[pinkace]

When Tabula Rasa went dead, for the last month the game had insanely high drop rates. the rarest weapons were easily found. I miss that game so much, it was a third-person shooter, futuristic space travel MMO. Imagine Mass Effect, with more action, as an MMO. And with swords and axes and stuff.... but I digress....

Maybe they could have placed the rarest of the rare items (home deco, armor, weps, RM & TM, and units in each user's box. then you would have at least a chance to try out what these items looked like.

[Kenbog]

Wishes they let us play all past event missions once again...
Firebreak, 1up, Lightning Carnival, Shred the Darkness, Protectors,Maximum Attack G and all of our past GBR boosts.
I don't care about bonuses I just want to have fun.

[tadtwisted]

Does anyone know if the PA boost is in effect now, the web site says its from march 8 till april 23 but i didnt hear of a server downtime ( maybe they dont need to shut down servers to put it in )

[Splash]

Beats me...but given what they would do, I'd say the next time downtime is when they will actually put it in (when MAG+ is gone).

[Cookie Monster]

Pretty sure we get the PA boosts Thursday night after maintenance. Doesn't really seem to be in effect now, unless it's like a 1% increase :nono:

[biggabertha]

Seems lame - I would have thought they'd at least leave MA G+ for us for the last two weeks... heh.

Nevermind, after the 31st of March, I suppose it's time to finish my offline games.
I wonder how many PAs I can power level to 30/40/50 before servers die...

[BWS-1]

When Tabula Rasa went dead, for the last month the game had insanely high drop rates. the rarest weapons were easily found. I miss that game so much, it was a third-person shooter, futuristic space travel MMO. Imagine Mass Effect, with more action, as an MMO. And with swords and axes and stuff.... but I digress....


So I wasn't the only one to think ''it was Mass Effect, on crack... o, and before Mass Effect''.

Makes me wonder how it could have failed, it could have been picked up, fixed.. or.. I dunno... makes me wish the game had ''an offline mode'', some could say ''Mass Effect'' was a polished attempt at that, still... Mass Effect had no online. You know, a mode like Borderland where, well, you just progress and sometimes, you progress with friends... but now, I digress...


I see this update as fit of a ''goodbye gift'' for us as what a last meal is for a prisoner on the death row.

Actually, it's more like just staring at the last meal. You can't really eat it. Well, you can have the crackers on the side, but that's it.

Yup, that's what it feels like.

[Darkstar1023]

Sega giving updates for the PS2/PC is like a slap in the face, seriously

[Zoamel_Gustav]

It's a typo. It has been updated.

http://forums.sega.com/showpost.php?p=5649374&postcount=30

Ahhhhhh ... yeah, it's a typo. "Oh, today's the 8th, I'll just put that in". Autopilot brain FTL.

I will update that tomorrow --- It is in fact the 12th.

[Zeek123]

Do the bonuses include a check for grievances?

[Cranberry]

Well I just tried grinding something using +8 grinders, and I couldn't even get it above the 5 mark 4 times in a row. I don't think the Grind boost is in affect at all. It's routinely failing what is supposed to be high chances of success. I'm pretty convinced that there is no grind boost.

[PepperCat]

It doesn't surprise me... SoA/SoJ is made of nothing but fail lately.

[Volcompat321]

Do the bonuses include a check for grievances?

Wouldn't that be nice!
Payment for 3 years of dealing with them please!
(Well, I'd give them 6 months of doing alright).


It doesn't surprise me... SoA/SoJ is made of nothing but fail lately.

:(

[dias_flac_0g]

Lol, what's the point in even arguing about what you guys got or didn't? I mean even a full set of 50% armas lines isn't going to change the fact that the servers will be closing in what 2 weeks from now? lol.

I don't even see a point in giving PC players any bonuses. There's just no point in doing so. Sorry if this makes you angry put it's the plain truth.

In all honesty these rewards should have gone to the 360 side insted since they would have been put to good use and wouldn't just be a waste.

[Shou]

The boosts are working fine.

[Cranberry]

The boosts are being done as a thank you for the PC/PS2 players. Basically a means of letting the players go out with a bang. Giving bonuses to Xbox 360 and giving nothing to PC/PS2 would be a complete slap in the face to some of Sega's most loyal fans.

[Zoamel_Gustav]

Before March 12th:

[SPOILER-BOX]
Diga LV1 to LV2.
02% 05% 08% 11% 13% 16% 19% 22% 25% 27%
30% 33% 36% 38% 41% 44% 47% 50% 52% 55%
58% 61% 63% 66% 69% 72% 75% 77% 80% 83%
86% 88% 91% 94% 97% 100%

Shifta LV1 to LV2.
01% 03% 04% 06% 07% 09% 10% 12% 14% 15%
17% 18% 20% 21% 23% 25% 26% 28% 29% 31%
32% 34% 35% 37% 39% 40% 42% 43% 45% 46%
48% 50% 51% 53% 54% 56% 57% 59% 60% 62%
64% 65% 67% 68% 70% 71% 73% 75% 76% 78%
79% 81% 82% 84% 85% 87% 89% 90% 92% 93%
95% 96% 98% 100%

Frozen Shot LV1 to LV2.
01% 02% 03% 04% 05% 07% 08% 09% 10% 11%
12% 14% 15% 16% 17% 18% 19% 21% 22% 23%
24% 25% 26% 28% 29% 30% 31% 32% 33% 35%
36% 37% 38% 39% 41% 42% 43% 44% 45% 46%
48% 49% 50% 51% 52% 53% 55% 56% 57% 58%
59% 60% 62% 63% 64% 65% 66% 67% 69% 70%
71% 72% 73% 75% 76% 77% 78% 79% 80% 82%
83% 84% 85% 86% 87% 89% 90% 91% 92% 93%
94% 96% 97% 98% 99% 100%
[/SPOILER-BOX]

After March 12th:

[SPOILER-BOX]
Diga LV1 to LV2.
05% 11% 16% 22% 27% 33% 38% 44% 50% 55%
61% 66% 72% 77% 83% 88% 94% 100%

Shifta LV1 to LV2.
03% 06% 09% 12% 15% 18% 21% 25% 28% 31%
34% 37% 40% 43% 46% 50% 53% 56% 59% 62%
65% 68% 71% 75% 78% 81% 84% 87% 90% 93%
96% 100%

Frozen Shot LV1 to LV2.
01% 03% 04% 06% 07% 09% 10% 12% 14% 15%
17% 18% 20% 21% 23% 25% 26% 28% 29% 31%
32% 34% 35% 37% 39% 40% 42% 43% 45% 46%
48% 50% 51% 53% 54% 56% 57% 59% 60% 62%
64% 65% 67% 68% 70% 71% 73% 75% 76% 78%
79% 81% 82% 84% 85% 87% 89% 90% 92% 93%
95% 96% 98% 100%
[/SPOILER-BOX]

Before March 12th:

Diga LV1 to LV2 required 36 hits.
Shifta LV1 to LV2 required 64 hits.
Frozen Shot LV1 to LV2 required 86 hits.

After March 12th:

Diga LV1 to LV2 requires 18 hits.
Shifta LV1 to LV2 requires 32 hits.
Frozen Shot LV1 to LV2 requires 64 hits.

From this, it seems:

TECHNIC PA experience boost multiplier is 2.
Bullet PA experience boost multiplier is 1.333333.

I did not have time to test skills.

[dias_flac_0g]

The boosts are being done as a thank you for the PC/PS2 players. Basically a means of letting the players go out with a bang. Giving bonuses to Xbox 360 and giving nothing to PC/PS2 would be a complete slap in the face to some of Sega's most loyal fans.

I understand that in a way, but my point still stands. Giving PC players USELESS bonuses is just a waste of time i'm sorry. It wont change the fact that the servers will die about 2 weeks from now. What's the point? To go out with a bang? If that's the case those are some silly @ss rewards to go out with a "bang".

A good THANK YOU from sega would have been to let all these users (including myself, I used to play on PC 2 years ago) actually save their online character offline. Meaning it would have been cool to "download" our characater from their servers onto our hardrive with all of our online stuff. That way we can use it in offline story mode.

That right there would have been a good thank you and good bye present.

Basically you threw away all that money, and didn't even get to keep your character at all. You basically just "rented" it.

[Splash]

I understand that in a way, but my point still stands. Giving PC players USELESS bonuses is just a waste of time i'm sorry. It wont change the fact that the servers will die about 2 weeks from now. What's the point? To go out with a bang? If that's the case those are some silly @ss rewards to go out with a "bang".

A good THANK YOU from sega would have been to let all these users (including myself, I used to play on PC 2 years ago) actually save their online character offline. Meaning it would have been cool to "download" our characater from their servers onto our hardrive with all of our online stuff. That way we can use it in offline story mode.

That right there would have been a good thank you and good bye present.

Basically you threw away all that money, and didn't even get to keep your character at all. You basically just "rented" it.
That wasn't the point she was making though. I sympathesize highly for those who believe these bonuses are not good farewell gifts, but I would be a hypocrite if I say that I don't appreciate these bonuses.

Of course, everybody would love it if they allowed us to download our online characters for offline use. It would be the greatest farewell gift ever. Too bad it's just something you could dream about only.

The point made was that, despite having these bonuses, it's still better than nothing. Whether you "like" these bonuses or not does not matter in the end. What matters is if you "appreciate" them or not.

We're all on the same boat (PC/PS2 players). Whether you want to jump off on the boat now or later is up to you.

[Zeek123]

Um... I don't appreciate them...

What's the point of getting stuff that's just going to up and dissapear in no time? A nice bang would be to put it on a permanent event and leave them open for free for a few more months. Or let the characters be transferrable to 360, or downloadable. Just... something. This farewell gift is literally nothing.

Granted Sega didn't have to do anything at all, it's just that if they were considering thanking their customers, it would've been nice if they actually gave us something.

[Splash]

Um... I don't appreciate them...

What's the point of getting stuff that's just going to up and dissapear in no time? A nice bang would be to put it on a permanent event and leave them open for free for a few more months. Or let the characters be transferrable to 360, or downloadable. Just... something. This farewell gift is literally nothing.

Granted Sega didn't have to do anything at all, it's just that if they were considering thanking their customers, it would've been nice if they actually gave us something.
No. This is exactly what I meant.

They gave something (it is not "literally nothing", regardless if you believe it is nothing significant). You just wish they gave something else (that is significant) instead. You "dislike" the bonuses they gave; it has nothing to do with appreciation.

To say that you don't appreciate the bonuses they gave is the same as saying you don't really care if they gave anything at all because if they gave nothing, it wouldn't impact you anyways. And seeing how you are suggesting that they did something else, it implies that you do care.

[Cranberry]

I could also argue that everything being done for the Xbox 360 such as future content updates are all a waste of time and useless because they too will be shutdown someday and all of it will vanish. It's really just about making the most of the time you have left. Xbox 360 happens to have longer than PC/PS2.

This is sort of like giving inmates on death row their last meal. That's basically what it is. Giving them something nice before we kill them. Sort of a "let them die with some dignity" thing.

We would have loved an offline patch, and many of us were pleading for one. But this is Segac we are talking about, frankly I'm surprised they listened to Edward enough to give us what they did. I really believe that without Edward pressuring them as much as he did, Segac would have given us nothing at all. A step above nothing is at least (even if slightly) better than nothing. At least the 10 coins a day will let me get that gun from the Casino I've been wanting before the shutdown.

This is a "live every day to the fullest" sort of thing. It's all about making the most of the time we have left. The boosts help us make use of that time a little more. Understand?

Sometimes you just have to make the most out of the hand that you're dealt. I fully agree that this isn't much of a thank you gift, but I'll make the most of it anyways.

[dias_flac_0g]

Slash keeps on bringing "appreciation" but in reality what's there to "appreciate"? These rewards if anything are more like just mocking you. Seeing as you wont even have time to enjoy the benfits of these bonuses.

But w/e have fun "appreciating" such a laughable reward.

Cranberry, that could verywell be true. I mean in reality it is. 360 servers will end someday too. But still these rewards would have been more meaningful on the 360 since we still have more time than the Ps2/Pc users.

In the end though the fact that we "rent" our chars is ****ing lame. This goes for both 360 and Pc. I still believe that would have been the best good bye present. "You payed all this money, the least we can do is patch up the game so you guys can continue your PSU questing offline with your online characters"

But i'm only dreaming now.

That said transfering the PC chars over to the 360 would have been a decent gift as well (I wont really benefit from this). I mean it would have been great for both Sega and the players. Seeing as this would have encourage players to really move to the 360 insted of starting over hence Sega still getting paid.

But like you say this is SEGAC we are talking about so again just pure dreaming.

Obviously SEGAC's past mistakes still haunt them. They failed as a console making corp and now they fail as a software one as well.

I never understood the mindset of SEGAC. That's why Sony killed the Dreamcast like nothing when Ps2 came out.

On a side note, Cranberry sounds kinda familiar. I think you played GC pso no? It's been ages but I recall talking to a Cranberry once in a great while years ago, but its been ages so I can't really remember. I just know that name sounds familiar.

[Volcompat321]

Want to talk about appreciation?
Where is the appreciation or respect for SEGA customers?
To give us close to nothing for 3 years, giving us the "not in sight, not in the mind" deal.

People can argue that the JP PSU gets the same treatment, but really....THEY DON'T!
To me it's obvious prejudice, but other seem to think not.

For a lot of people, (I wont say most) we've already quit when we heard the news.
It's torturing yourself playing after the announcement, because what the hell will there be?
Now people can argue that "it will eventually be nothing in the future anyway", well, yea that's correct, but at least "in the future" wasn't two months away.

I'm sure when the 360 goes down in a few months(jk) there will be tons of people quitting.
Now for the transfer or "better" rewards-
Nothing can be as good as not shutting down the server.
Transferring to the 360 server is not an option for me, so this would be the end of my PSU career anyway.
I don't play offline PSU, and who does now anyway?

I'm not saying I'm glad we didn't get any type of transfer, but I wouldn't use it anyway.

SEGA, you disappointed your followers for which I hope is the LAST TIME!

I know people will play the next PS game, and still pay monthly for "service" and server, but I'm not.
Unless the new game (if there will be one) is FREE to play ONLINE, I will not buy it, will not support it, and will not play it.

With all that said, everyone on the PC/Ps2 just got trolled by SEGA.

[dias_flac_0g]

Volcompat, anyone who disagree's with you is certainly a SEGAC fanboy.

It's funny cuz those "rewads" are just as you put it pure trolling on Sega's part xD

Only thing I don't agree on with you is the whole keeping your chars don't mean anything.

To alot of us it would.

I mean I NEVER play my GC pso characters anymore, but I am VERY glad that I was able to keep my main char. She now rest happily in my GC memory card.

So if I ever have the need for a nostalgic moment I will play with her and it will be great.

That's all really. I would love to keep my psu char aswell. But that aint gonna happen though.

[Cranberry]

I do agree with you that we are just renting our characters, and that really is a shame. I was one of (hopefully) many people that were pleading for an offline expansion to use our characters offline. That really would have been a much better "Thank you and farwell" present.

I'll be playing PSU right to the end. I sort of look at it in the light of having a pet that you know is going to be put to sleep in a month. Instead of avoiding it because it's just going to die anyways, I look at it as wanting to spend as much time with the pet as I can while I can; make the most of the time it has left. That's kind of how I look at it.

My PSU character means more to me than I originally realized. I'm really going to miss her when she's gone. I admit I brushed back a tear or two. While I still can, I'm going to make the most of her and try to enjoy as much of the game as I can. And I'm definitly taking a lot of snap shots to help preserve some PSU memories. That's my mindset right now, to make as much out of the remaining time as I can before it's gone forever. The goodbye boosts are helping me do that, even if just a little bit. Honestly, what I appreciate most is the 10 coins per day from the Casino, because I really want to get that Robopitch gun before we go.

Yes, I am the same Cranberry from Gamecube. I'm still very much active on Gamecube too, and I still play that to this day. One thing I really like about Gamecube is that my character is saved on a memory card and can't be taken away. The PSO Cranberry is very much alive and intact. =) And she can still be found online.

[Volcompat321]

I do agree with you that we are just renting our characters, and that really is a shame. I was one of (hopefully) many people that were pleading for an offline expansion to use our characters offline. That really would have been a much better "Thank you and farwell" present.

I'll be playing PSU right to the end. I sort of look at it in the light of having a pet that you know is going to be put to sleep in a month. Instead of avoiding it because it's just going to die anyways, I look at it as wanting to spend as much time with the pet as I can while I can; make the most of the time it has left. That's kind of how I look at it.

My PSU character means more to me than I originally realized. I'm really going to miss her when she's gone. I admit I brushed back a tear or two. While I still can, I'm going to make the most of her and try to enjoy as much of the game as I can. And I'm definitly taking a lot of snap shots to help preserve some PSU memories. That's my mindset right now, to make as much out of the remaining time as I can before it's gone forever. The goodbye boosts are helping me do that, even if just a little bit. Honestly, what I appreciate most is the 10 coins per day from the Casino, because I really want to get that Robopitch gun before we go.

Yes, I am the same Cranberry from Gamecube. I'm still very much active on Gamecube too, and I still play that to this day. One thing I really like about Gamecube is that my character is saved on a memory card and can't be taken away. The PSO Cranberry is very much alive and intact. =) And she can still be found online.

I stopped at "having a pet....put down in a month".

PSU is not something you consider your family.
A pet, something you love (obviously different love than a video game) can be appreciative and show affection.
PSU/SEGA has never shown that type of care for any of their customers.
Okay, maybe the first month, when we were on the same schedule as JP PSU.

Now, I wont fault anyone for loving their character, because I do too!
PSU was my first and only MMORPG type game, and I loved pretty much every second of it.
The community was amazing while it lasted, and I only ever had problems with 1 person. Well, a few but only 1 significant person.

I do realize what's happening, and how it's happening, and how SEGA is handling it, and whatnot.
I just wont be a supporter of SEGA anymore, by paying online fees.
I'll pay for the game itself if the online is free, IF a game comes out.

[dias_flac_0g]

Though your pet comment is kinda extreeme, I understand where you coming from. Though I moved on to the 360 servers (way before they announced the closure of the PC servers) i'ma still log in to the PC servers and take lots of snapshots of my character.

I love my char as well.

My char is still very much alive and well with all of her uber duped gear from back in the ST server days haha. I was fortunate that my chaer NEVER got corrupted. She is 187 and happily living inside my GC mem card ^_^

You still play online with your GC char? Hmmm, sh*thack servers I assume?

[Cranberry]

Oh yes I know it's not a perfect example. Don't worry, I don't think of PSU as part of the family or anything crazy like that. I was simply using the comparision as an example to illustrate my desire to make the most of PSU's remaining life.

Aye, that's the place that I play. I'm also a GM there.

[dias_flac_0g]

Is it safe to play there? I mean with our GC chars? If it is i'll probably take my girl for a spin there for some nostalgia :)

But if the place is over run by haxorz bsod-ing people all day long (or other type of haxs) then hell nah. I'm not gonna expose my girl to get haxed or deleted.

You're a Gm there so you should be able to answer my question =P

[Cranberry]

We're stepping dangerously close to PSO-World TOS violations now, not to mention we're getting off topic if we go farther down this road.

When I get home I'll answer your questions in a private message.

[Splash]

Slash keeps on bringing "appreciation" but in reality what's there to "appreciate"? These rewards if anything are more like just mocking you. Seeing as you wont even have time to enjoy the benfits of these bonuses.
I'm not talking about reality, I'm talking about the difference between understanding that we are given something (not nothing, no matter how much you want to point out its pointless) and understanding what is considered something to be take for granted when they didn't have to give anything. If you don't understand this, then you don't understand my point of view.

I'm not denying that I don't like these bonuses because yes, they are actually "pointless" and yes, there could have been something much better than that. But I don't let it sway my decision of whether I want to play or not, I just say "Ok, so these are what we have left. Guess I'll have fun with whatever is left now".


But w/e have fun "appreciating" such a laughable reward.
Like I said, we are all in the same boat. If you want to jump off now, go ahead. I, on the other hand, will just stay on and play until the end of the server time when it does close.


Want to talk about appreciation?
Where is the appreciation or respect for SEGA customers?
To give us close to nothing for 3 years, giving us the "not in sight, not in the mind" deal.

People can argue that the JP PSU gets the same treatment, but really....THEY DON'T!
To me it's obvious prejudice, but other seem to think not.

For a lot of people, (I wont say most) we've already quit when we heard the news.
It's torturing yourself playing after the announcement, because what the hell will there be?
Now people can argue that "it will eventually be nothing in the future anyway", well, yea that's correct, but at least "in the future" wasn't two months away.

I'm sure when the 360 goes down in a few months(jk) there will be tons of people quitting.
Now for the transfer or "better" rewards-
Nothing can be as good as not shutting down the server.
Transferring to the 360 server is not an option for me, so this would be the end of my PSU career anyway.
I don't play offline PSU, and who does now anyway?


Like I said, we are all in the same boat. If you want to jump off now, go ahead.
If that is what you decided (quitting after hearing the news), then I can understand and your hatred for them is justified. Like I also said, I symphasize highly for those who believe there should have been a better reward like character transfer or download for offline usage because I know where they are coming from, especially for those who have played PSU for many years.

[dias_flac_0g]

We're stepping dangerously close to PSO-World TOS violations now, not to mention we're getting off topic if we go farther down this road.

When I get home I'll answer your questions in a private message.

Yea, I figured we wouldn't be able to talk about this in public. And yea I would appreciate that. Thank you ^_^

"Like I said, we are all in the same boat. If you want to jump off now, go ahead. I, on the other hand, will just stay on and play until the end of the server time when it does close."

I don't know if you read it (I said it a couple of times) but I BEEEN jumped off that boat over 2 years ago xD

That said I would still love to keep my pc char for offline play lol.

[Splash]

Hmm really? I must have missed it. Go figure.

Well, at least you didn't die from jumping off that boat. =P

[Zeek123]

Why do you have sympathy for anyone that doesn't appreciate these rewards? Kind of an odd way to look at it if you ask me.

It's not a matter of "taking what we get", it's a matter of Sega has no respect for the people that have supported them, and this isn't a "thanks" by any stretch of the word. These bonuses are a blatant slap in the face and an easy cop-out for something more tangible. No, I wouldn't have switched to 360 if they allowed the transfer. No, I wouldn't ever play offline again if they allowed what I'm sure comes to a 4 KB download. But I would've appreciated the gesture. At lesat it would've been something. I think you're taking what I said about these bonuses a little too literally. I realize it would have been in Sega's nature to just close the serves and leave it at that. When I say these bonuses are nothing, I mean they do absolutely nothing to benefit anyone at all. It's not fun to get that goddamn Milla a week before the close. It's not fun to finally cap all my bullets.

[Splash]

Why do you have sympathy for anyone that doesn't appreciate these rewards? Kind of an odd way to look at it if you ask me.
Because I understand both viewpoints, the negative side and the positive side. I'm acknowledging the fact that yes, the PC/PS2 people should have gotten more than what is currently being handed. I could totally understand that because I feel the same way too. But that does not mean I can't look at the positive side either, that they are just making the remainder of the time a "better" experience for us to play on the server. You thinking that it is an "odd way" to look at it suggests that you don't understand the other side of it and you can't help but think this is more negative than it is positive.


It's not a matter of "taking what we get", it's a matter of Sega has no respect for the people that have supported them, and this isn't a "thanks" by any stretch of the word.
It's still a "thanks". It's just not at the level you want the "thanks" to be. I agree.


These bonuses are a blatant slap in the face and an easy cop-out for something more tangible. No, I wouldn't have switched to 360 if they allowed the transfer. No, I wouldn't ever play offline again if they allowed what I'm sure comes to a 4 KB download. But I would've appreciated the gesture. At lesat it would've been something. I think you're taking what I said about these bonuses a little too literally. I realize it would have been in Sega's nature to just close the serves and leave it at that. When I say these bonuses are nothing, I mean they do absolutely nothing to benefit anyone at all. It's not fun to get that goddamn Milla a week before the close. It's not fun to finally cap all my bullets.
Don't exaggerate stuff then please. I just took what you said into context. And as I said before:

They gave something (it is not "literally nothing", regardless if you believe it is nothing significant). You just wish they gave something else (that is significant) instead.

You don't seem to understand that I'm not debating about these bonuses being useless and insignificant. We already know that there are pointless, we already know they don't do much, we know that having a transferable character or downloadable to offline is better; we already know all of that and I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is that you don't understand the positive side of having these bonuses; you constantly think this is just an "insult" to the players and more so with players who stuck with PSU for a long time (hence why I symphasize). You claim that you understand that SEGA could have given nothing but from your context, it doesn't seem like you do. The bonuses given were not meant for to be as an insult, it was meant as a way to have a "better" (not the best, that's obviously not true. Better is a comparison and it's still more than nothing) experience for playing on the server. Whether you actually think its "better" is your own opinion.

[Zeek123]

Don't be so passive agressive! Pick a side dammit!

I'm not saying I don't understand your point of view, so please stop implying I'm not. As a customer of this parade of shxt we've been fed, don't you feel slighted? Don't you want more for all the time and money you put in? It's just code they unlocked that cost them no time or resources to pull.

How is the remaining experience better when you get nothing out of it? I'm not trying to bait you or anything, so please don't get insulted and don't try to "flame" me.

[Splash]

Don't be so passive agressive! Pick a side dammit!
True, I guess I am being passive agressive. Except I'm only passive agressive because I don't support a side. There is a difference between understanding the point of views and supporting a point of view. I'm not trying to support, mostly because it creates a pointless argument (and of course all that Segac nonsense too because...insults really help! [/sarcasm]). And there's no point in arguing about such stuff. Nor am I trying to create an argument in the first place.


I'm not saying I don't understand your point of view, so please stop implying I'm not. As a customer of this parade of shxt we've been fed, don't you feel slighted? Don't you want more for all the time and money you put in? It's just code they unlocked that cost them no time or resources to pull.
If you do understand my point of view, then you wouldn't be telling me stuff that we both agree on already.

I can't emphasize because I'm not one of the people who played the game for a long time and spent all the money for this. That's why I have sympathy for those who do, because I know they don't like these bonuses and just see them as an insult. I've already said this a lot of times already.

Perhaps I do feel jaded that they are constantly giving us useless stuff. But do I believe that the bonuses are considered to be "nothing"? No. It's "something", quite literally at that. Do I believe it could have been much better? Yes, absolutely.


How is the remaining experience better when you get nothing out of it? I'm not trying to bait you or anything, so please don't get insulted and don't try to "flame" me.
Oh, you thought all I said was trying to flame you? Sorry, I'll apologize.

You don't know what you are comparing to. I'm comparing the remaining experience to the experience before the bonuses but after the news of the shutdown. Before MAG+, there was no bonus, everything was normal. MAG+ came and then gone. Then we get these bonuses. So, in the end, we end up having a "bonus" gameplay vs. "normal" gameplay. Do you understand how it is "better" now? Remember, better is a comparison. In other words, I'm not saying this is the best thing they did, I'm saying this is better than the old gameplay pre-MAG+. If you don't understand this, then there is no point in saying anything else.

You don't get anything out of it as a final result. But that's not the point. The point of these bonuses is not about the final result, it's about making the remaining experience more enjoyable. And again, as I said, whether you believe this remaining experience is enjoyable or not is completely your opinion. Whether you want to jump off the boat now or later is up to you.


(Anyways, I'm going to calm down a bit. This topic might be start getting to me. )

[Zeek123]

*sigh*

I give up. Sorry, I didn't feel like reading all that... Nothing against you or anything, I'm just tired. I don't know if anyone's arguing anymore or what, all I know is, these bonuses are dumb, and completely pointless.

G'night everybody...