Battle: A little harsh with the rules...

[DB]

I just read the whole banning thing... I can't say, I like that whole thing... Once banned, always banned... It wasn't always like that... Sure, people do some bad things, but it doesn't mean you should get rid of them forever... I mean, you guys banned Spy... He's been here since... Forever... Don't you think it's a little harsh? I mean, forever? That's a seriously long time you know... And what if a normal player of the game, gets banned, just for doing a little bashing, or exchanging a few bad comments. Things change, so do people... I dislike that rule, and think it should be changed. I'm not going to put up a poll, because it would be completely, and utterly worthless. I just want the mods, especially eRUPT to read this. I think you should revise the rules a little bit, or at least this one. Because that is seriously, on the side of unfairness. Everyone deserves at least a second chance. Or possibly, to win there freedom back. Don't you think so?

[Guntz348]

I think that three warnings is pretty fair. If your here long enough to get three warnings you should know the rules by then and expect there to be a repercusion to your actions. The people that were banned on this site were banned for very good reasons, the mods don't just go around banning who ever they want. As far as specific people getting banned, if you look up there last threads, meaning the ones that finally got them banned, they had done something pretty severe, and usually were warned about it several times.

Take for example the case of Spy, he was given about 5 warnings in total I think before he was banned. The only reason he got to push the bar that far is because of the fact that he was here forever. He was constantly harassing people and causing trouble. He always questioned every single desision that the mods and admins made. I saw several posts where he had been warned both officially and un-officialy to just cool it and yet he still persisted. Anyone that continues to break the same rules over and over again after being warned deserves to get banned.

Alot of the people that got banned where banned because of things like extreme flaming, using racial or sexual slurs and things like that. The mods make it clear that this forum is a PG-13 forum and that there are young kids that come here. You can't just let people run around screaming what ever they want esspecially if you are trying to keep this place open and welcoming to all who pass by. I'm not saying that I think everything should be censored or that I even support censorship, because I really don't, but if you were to go into a bar in a city and start screaming the "N" word at people in there, would you not expect to at the least get thrown out? In reality I know if you do that you will get jumped most likely and I'd have to say I'd be your own fault but thats kind of off to the left a bit here. My main point is this; about your freedom of speach or any other freedom we have in this country you must remember one thing, you freedom ends where anothers begins and you must respect that.

The reason the mod ban people is because there actions could cause upset to many people. Let's say for example that in a post someone was calling everyone a "faggot" or a "gook" or any type of ethnic/sexual slur. If a young PSO player was on this site and reading that topic or being insulted by that person, what would happen if his parents read it? Let's just say that that childs parents do what they should do and monitor what the child views so they can make sure that he's not seeing/reading anything innopropriate. If they saw that I doubt they would want there son or daughter visiting this site ever again, and that would be an awful thing.

What it really comes down to is this; the forums are to be a PG-13 place. It says that in the rules and by starting an account here you agreed to abide by those rules. You read them and know that if you do something to offend someone or attack someone or a mod or something that violates the rules, you should expect a repercusion. I understand people can change but really they tend not to that much. If you did something that bad to warrent a mod banning you, then chances are if you were un-banned they'd just turn around and do it again. This is just my two cents and please bare with me here, its 7.30 am and my brains yellin about that sleep thing it likes to do so much http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


Edit: Stupid typos, how I hate thee! I think I got 'em all this though.


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[SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko]

I think the bannings are okay. If you want to come back, you'll need to use a new ISP and e-mail and account name. If you act like you did before, you get your catass banned again, over and over. Most losers have given up on the account game :3.

[LollipopLolita]

what guntz said and:

you're completely misconstruing and exaggerating things. and people go get a second chance. in fact they have up to 3 warnings and sometimes more? how many more chances do you get? you have to be fair to all users and not be biased. we cannot start unbanning people because that would simply be unfair. people have always remained banned in the past.

when being a mod and admin, you have to think for the betterment of the forum and the site. having repeated offenders that enjoy a little slack is biased and unfair treatment to our other members that are always helpful and always contributing to the community. no one gets banned for a little bashing, exchanging a few bad comments or rude comments. we let that slide because everyone does deserve a little slack.

as per spy. there is no need to discuss him. we approached him plenty of times and he never responded. besides, he was looking to get banned and didn't care about being banned since this is posw to him. the spy issue was discussed many times between the mods and we always held off banning him. he should not have any preferential treatment because of his join date. that is completely biased and unfair. and what about all the other numerous members that have complained about him? i do not care to discuss spy again, he is a non issue. we have more important things ot discuss and do in this site.

we're a gamespy hosted site, has it ever occured to you that we have to conduct ourselves in such a manner to keep that hosting free? we are one of the more relaxed pso boards. we don't go around banning people because they are annoying. we also don't ban 7 people in a day. if you don't like how things are here, you are welcomed to try another board. we never claimed to be the best and we don't try to be the best. we just do what we do, try to provide a good community and information for pso players and try our hardest at that job. this is one of the few forums where mods are not dictators or totalitarians, you can question the mods and address your issues, and we always listen to what our members have to say. above all remember that this is basically a gaming site, and the focus is mainly pso.

the rules are the rules and they will not changed. the fact is that very few people get banned here, very very few. and banning is our last resort. everyone is given a warning and when they fail to change upon that warning, further steps are taken. in most cases, people who get banned do deserve it. usually most people don't fill up the 3 warnings quota, but remember this: we have do track every single warning and offense and the reason why. and you weren't around to see all of that.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: LollipopLolita on 2003-03-05 11:58 ]</font>

[KodiaX987]

DB, this isn't year 2001 anymore. Sorry, man!!

[FluxGryphon]

Just a question for clarification: the kind of banning we're talking about here is being banned from the site period, or being banned from specific aspects (chatting, posting, voting, participating in events, what have you)? I was banned from voting, which while it doesn't really matter much since I usually don't have enough time to seriously participate in any PSOW events, but I never received one warning, let alone three. Just wondering what kind of banning this hot topic in 'Site Related' is referring to. Pardon my ignorance to the working details of the site. (I just like talking about PSO!) http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_shy.gif

[LollipopLolita]

banning from the site.

[FluxGryphon]

On 2003-03-07 00:15, LollipopLolita wrote:
banning from the site.


Roger-dodger.