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Roger Triton
Nov 25, 2010, 08:27 PM
EDIT: Cut off the end of the subject, which is Xbox360 / PS3 / Wii


Hi, I don't work for Sega but I'm wondering something. For you hardcore fans that would like to see a console version of PStar, which of these would you consider?


$15/month fee for the first 1-3 months, then $10 month after. $40-$60 game purchase.
$20/mo fee for 1-6 months, then $15 or less. $40 game across Xbox360 / PS3 / Wii
$10/month fee for first 1-3 months, then $10 if purchased monthly (multi-month discounts). $50 game across all 3 systems
Free for first month, then $10/mo with discounts available for multi-months. $50 game.
$10/month forever, Download only option from Xbox360 / PS3 / Wii / Sega.com sites. Price unknown.
Free for first month, then $10/mo afterward. $40 Download only option, no refunds, exclusive Sega.com

A lot of companies are having a rough time in this economy. It might be that to get a console release, Sega will need a commitment from fans & have to do things different.

Powder Keg
Nov 25, 2010, 08:34 PM
None of the above. Here's to hoping console releases don't happen.

PS3 and 360 will be approx five and six years old around the time PSO2 gets released...where we are to likely see the same problems we saw with PSU's release....bad ports, not enough resources, etc... and if it means server separations....no thanks.

Roger Triton
Nov 25, 2010, 08:46 PM
PS3 and 360 will be approx five and six years old around the time PSO2 gets released...

$ony has a 10 yr plan for the PS3, so the likelyhood that all 3 consoles are still around in 5-6 years is actually high. But why would it take 5 years to develop the next console game? If they use the existing infrastructure from PSP2, then program the graphics so it displays nicely at 720p I don't see an issue. From what I've read, PSP2 for the PSP is stable & runs rather quickly. The graphics are also quite nice.

str898mustang
Nov 25, 2010, 09:50 PM
None of the above. Here's to hoping console releases don't happen.

PS3 and 360 will be approx five and six years old around the time PSO2 gets released...where we are to likely see the same problems we saw with PSU's release....bad ports, not enough resources, etc... and if it means server separations....no thanks.

agreed

Crysteon
Nov 25, 2010, 10:02 PM
Releasing the game in consoles will repeat the same story that affected PSU. I'd fully bet for a PC-only version; that serves me right if PC gamers like me dont want to bear retarded console players...but that's just an impossible dream, lol

Roger Triton
Nov 25, 2010, 11:20 PM
Releasing the game in consoles will repeat the same story that affected PSU. I'd fully bet for a PC-only version; that serves me right if PC gamers like me dont want to bear retarded console players...but that's just an impossible dream, lol
As Ryna pointed out to me in another thread, this is the problem with the PC side of things: hacking


Fortunately, the JP and Xbox 360 versions of the game haven't been afflicted with those problems.

Those problems being partner machinery stolen & items+decorations stolen/hacked.

If FF14 does well on the PS3, I think it would make more than sense for Sega to release Phantasy Star on the console it's best for.

Tetsaru
Nov 26, 2010, 12:23 AM
The MMO's I've seen usually have the first month or a certain period of time free to allow players to see whether or not they really like the game first. As long as the game disc or download itself is no more than $60, I'm cool with it. Afterwards, it's usually $10-$20 a month, sometimes charging a few dollars more for having extra characters, etc., and maybe $10-$30 for any expansions. In my opinion, this is fair as long as the game is regularly maintained and updated, which usually wasn't the case when I played PSU. Seeing how PSO and PSU were released for multiple platforms, I expect PSO2 will be treated similarly. Even if the different consoles' servers are separated (for example, I don't see PS3 and 360 playing together, obviously), I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as everyone received their updates at the same time. With this in mind, I would NOT separate servers by region, so there's no "Japan is over a year ahead of us" bullshit going on like in PSU; that kind of game management is just inexcusable, especially for an online RPG that covers multiple countries, even if it doesn't have a huge population.

Chaobo99
Nov 26, 2010, 01:07 AM
They should just make pc/xbox/360 and jp/us/eu all on the same servers. Boy what a community that would be o.o;.

Roger Triton
Nov 26, 2010, 01:42 AM
I agree Chaobo99. As long as Sega had a backup server that was a mirror of the main, then let everyone in all countries play on the same server. If it was a Xbox360 game, could be thousands of people online all over the world. That is exciting!

Lolitron
Nov 26, 2010, 02:51 AM
PSO2 will be released in JP for a year before the US even hears a release date.

Besides, SEGA doesn't care about the 100 US hardcore PSO-W fans that would pay for the subscription regardless of price. They care about how many copies they can move and how many saps they can get to pay monthly fees for a quick buck.

Lesson: Don't take US releases of SEGA games seriously because they're like one night flings.

RemiusTA
Nov 26, 2010, 04:15 AM
EDIT: Cut off the end of the subject, which is Xbox360 / PS3 / Wii


If this game can be ported to the nintendo wii then im never touching it a day in my life.


That said, $10 subscription is more than decent enough for this game. No matter how much they add, it isnt going to be World of Warcraft, a $15 subscription with a giant open world and a bajillion active players. They just dont need as much to maintain anything.


I dont care how much it costs, but i'd pay the extra $5 and make it 15 just so we dont have to deal with Cashshop bullshit or "OPTIONAL RELEASES". That shit pisses me off. I didn't spend $60 on this game for you to tell me i have to pay $2 everytime you release something that im paying for through my fucking subscription anyway.

Ezodagrom
Nov 26, 2010, 05:18 PM
Vote: None of the Above.
I surely hope they do not release this for the Wii, due to its really limited storage.