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Sarthraa
01-25-2011, 05:17 PM
Okay, so I've basically been in this conversation/argument with these guys on YouTube about how SoA gave us a "half-assed" game when they released Phantasy Star Portable 2, complaining that the Japanese version is so much better and that PSP2i is just around the corner, and SoA didn't give us that. They even went so far as to say that we'd have been better to get nothing at all! :-x
UGH!! Is this common ranting, or are these two just covetous that Japan is getting the better stuff first? I understand that some people like to import, but these guys are taking it a bit too far. One of the guys is even the maker of the video. I saw the comment about how "horrible" the English version is and I just had to say something about it.
That's just a little more than annoying. I mean, are they THAT impatient and fed up with SoA that they don't even want to wait and see about PSP2i? I do also understand that PSP2i was scheduled for 5 months after the NA release of PSP2, but still.... Ugh...as you can tell, these guys kinda PO'd me. I hope this isn't in the wrong part of the forum. Feel free to move it if it is. ^^;
Kirukia
01-25-2011, 05:25 PM
It would've been betters in the Rants section, but it'll probably get moved anyway.
This is an ongoing argument.
JP has more content (DLC, which we DLed anyway and PSN items) while the US has better drop rates blah blah.
Neither is better it's just preference but people still feel the need to bitch about it and try to be right on an opinionated question.
Broken_L_button
01-25-2011, 05:35 PM
Kirukia is right.
There's no need to make a fuss about it. And, like a wise man once said:
"Haters gon' hate."
People will find any opportunity to spit their vitriol.
Drawers
01-25-2011, 06:11 PM
I don't get why everyone is sweatin' the JPN version, the DLC weapons are bullcrap that have alternate non-DLC versions in Infinity. They're nothing to shout about from the git go! Omg and a few crappy compilation items makes the game inferior? What...? What is wrong with people? Did I miss some kind of international memo? Unbe-freakin-lievable.
This isn't a matter of hateration. You need to look that word up in the urban dictionary. They're upset clearly, hating would be a person with some type of ill will jealousy, they're not hating on the Japanese version either.
Silver_Wyrm
01-25-2011, 06:14 PM
while the US has better drop rates blah blah.
You mean the drop charts (we have more available items int hem) or the rates themselves?
Delete
01-31-2011, 02:33 PM
Like someone told be a long time ago, people on Youtube are idiots. Nuff said
Sinue_v2
01-31-2011, 05:19 PM
I dunno, It doesn't sound like they're haters... maybe it's more that case that they just have a very low threshold for Sonic Team's bullshit given their track record over the last few years. So low that even menial differences and petty oversights can appear to be blown out of proportion. No matter how even handed Sonic Team tried to be with balancing the pros and cons of the NA vs. JP release, the staggering amount of time that we've fallen behind the JP PSU/AoTI servers already sends a pretty negative impression of their consideration for territories outside of JP... and so something as minor as PSP2i's regional differences seem larger than they really are from that perspective. The same thing happened when PSZero launched, and NA users had several weapons removed (though still on the card) because ST somehow couldn't or didn't get them licensed for use outside of Japan. Miku's Leek, Samus Aran's Cannon, and a few others. Several people I saw raged a bit too hard about something that was, largely, out of Sonic Team's control... and it was usually fueled by their frustrations with PSU.
Also... you gotta understand, some of these people don't rage to hate, and aren't out to troll for the hell of it. It's more love, than hate, because they know what Sega/Sonic Team is capable of doing... and to see them constantly screw up and underachieve and have their plans ground through the bullshit ass-backwards bureaucratic machinery that governs how SOJ/SOA/SOE interact with each other and handle their territories releases... it gets frustrating. Some people accept it and have no problems criticizing the company when they think they deserve it, some just give up and move on to other franchises, and others ignore or marginalize their grievances until it reaches critical mass one day and they go on a frothing rage. Lot of people stick with Sega because Sega has been good to them in the past (though nostalgia and youth can skew perceptions a bit), and they're frustrated with the way Sega has treated their customers and the IPs they enjoy.
You know, lots of people bash the culture and government they live in for how it's being managed, but they still love their nation. They bash sports team for their horrible management and lack of talent, but are still call themselves die-hard fans. Lots of people manage love-hate relationships with the people, places, and organizations they surround themselves with. Video Game companies are no different, especially Sega and their fan base considering how hard Sega's had it in the market even since the Master System days. It doesn't cultivate the most positive and friendly atmosphere at times, but considering what a bunch of demanding assholes with delusions of entitlement that most video gamers are (myself included), things could be worse.
[spoiler-box](Though if you think about it, Sega has rarely ever been known for reliably making good business decisions or corporate efficiency, they at least had their games... which while often unpolished graphically, were innovative and provided solid and highly enjoyable gameplay experiences... especially in regards to their arcade titles. Now those titles are very few and far between, and innovation/inspiration and gameplay quality seem to have taken a back seat to more mass-market oriented blandness. Yeah, they've probably sold a lot more games because of that, but they've sterilized the soul and the fun and the innovation out of many of those products in order to do so. And in trading off their best qualities in order to secure a safer bet at the retail end, they've opened themselves up to greater criticism over their errors because there is too often no longer the great gameplay and innovation there to compensate for or use as apologetics for their flaws.)[/spoiler-box]
Tyreek
01-31-2011, 05:25 PM
Youtube is a cesspool of opinionated or otherwise close-minded or other-minded people/trolls. Its about as bad as Yahoo comments, yet Yahoo is moderated, horribly. I remember when JP PSP2's demo came out and someone had it up on Youtube, someone called the game a half-assed attempt like PSP1, even though its presentation was MUCH better and mechanics were a better. But then again, this person was a bit PSO purist.
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