Ouryu and Shijin

[dias_flac_0g]

What are the exact bonuses from these two? I keep hearing different things from different people. I still dont have a Shijin so I cant test it out myself.

The Wiki seems wrong as well about the unit by itself.

The Unit by itself gives 100TP and 100MST it's also a Har/Quick. The Wiki says it gives a 50% speed boost, but no it's only 33% like the Har/Quick. I was a bit disapointed over that last one:( lol

I was hoping to cast spells fast as hell xD

[unicorn]

Har Quick and Smart are faster though.

[Nereid]

The Shijin itself has a hidden bonus of +50 ATP and +50 TP. The Ohryu has a 50% cast time, 90% PP cost, and a bonus of +100 TP and +100 MST. The set bonus gives an additional +150 ATP and +150 TP. I believe there is a small DFP and MST boost, too.

[dias_flac_0g]

Har Quick and Smart are faster though.

Faster than the Ouryu?

Hmm, they felt the same to me...I just tested them like an hour ago. I'll need to test it again to make sure then :)

That said, that's even more disapointing then lol. I was hoping it could surpass the Har quick with a bigger speed boost.

Anyways, what about the bonuses with the Shijin? I keep hearing 250TP and ATP, but the wiki says 150...

[HienkyakuX]

http://psupedia.info/Set_bonus

Shijin
Att 50, Acc 25, Tech 50

Ouryu
Tech 100, Ment 100

Set Bonus
+150 Att, +150 Tech, +2 End

As for the speed for this one is 200%(double the speed or half the time) when har/quick is 300% (triple the speed or 1/3 the time). All together and you have 200 Att and 300 Tech having the lineshield and the unit equip. And you still have the arm unit free for a lkk or anything else.

[Midori Oku]

Listed Set Bonus:
ATP - 150
TP - 150
STA - 2

Armor Bonus:
ATP - 50
ATA - 25
TP - 50

Ohryu:
TP - 100
MST -100
10% less PP is used
Same casting speed as a Me/Quick

However, there are unlisted bonuses on PSUpedia.

MST - 150
DFP - 75
EVP - ???
ATA - ???

http://forum.psupedia.info/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=739

Credit goes out to Ceresa for that thread. I did some testing of my own and I can confirm that there is 70-75 DFP and around 150 MST in the set bonus.

There is a ATA bonuse (but the exact number is not known) and there should be an EVP bonus as well. Hope this helps! :)

[dias_flac_0g]

http://psupedia.info/Set_bonus

+150 Att, +150 Tech, +2 End

As for the speed for this one is 200%(double the speed or half the time) when har/quick is 300% (triple the speed or 1/3 the time). All together and you have 200 Att and 300 Tech having the lineshield and the unit equip.

Thanks for that. I understand better now. PSo-world has the har/quick at 33% speed. But now I know what it means compared to 50%.

So it is indeed slower lame!

I'ma have to test again to see it myself, I cant believe I missed that =P

[Omega-z]

Midori Oku the Unlisted Bonuses useing the same results from the test are.

DFP - 30
MST - 100
EVP - 50
ATA - 200

Things got mess'd up with the Defensive stat's with that formula which is incorrect in-game.

[Midori Oku]

Midori Oku the Unlisted Bonuses useing the same results from the test are.

DFP - 30
MST - 100
EVP - 50
ATA - 200

So Ceresa was wrong? I swear I got around the same results when I did my own tests. lol Im confused now.

[Omega-z]

No your results were right but the formula is wrong for the defensive stat's, example 75 MST is actually 21-23 less Damage to magic when using in-game items like Sori / Mind which is 75 MST. So when she got 31 it's closer to 100 not 150 a 3 to 1 ratio not 5. the DFP is easy too, take Orpad / Guard for example which gives 56-58 less damage which is close to 120 which is a 2 to 1 ratio not 5. the DFP for the set was 13-14 which is close to 30. The funny thing is you will never get hard number's with Damage done or taken because of the half stat's which is static.

Right now going over all the Set bonuses with Espio for everything since some of them are incorrect and some aren't or processes need work. lol

[Darki]

Thanks for that. I understand better now. PSo-world has the har/quick at 33% speed. But now I know what it means compared to 50%.

So it is indeed slower lame!

I'ma have to test again to see it myself, I cant believe I missed that =P

I don't think that unit is lame, it gives a crapload more of TP and maybe the split seconds more you take to cast the skill is more damage dealt to monsters.

But I don't know, for me as a WT that I can enjoy all the bonuses is just awesome.

[dias_flac_0g]

I don't think that unit is lame, it gives a crapload more of TP and maybe the split seconds more you take to cast the skill is more damage dealt to monsters.

But I don't know, for me as a WT that I can enjoy all the bonuses is just awesome.

Never called the Unit itself lame. I just wanted to be as fast or faster than a har/quick. That said of course I know of the other benefits from it and I will be using it as well.