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lostinseganet
Sep 6, 2011, 11:02 AM
pso 2 needs ddr, Playable instruments, and karaoke. In every mmo people dance when they are not fighting or talking. What do you think? It would be a good alternative to killing everything in sight. Also people could hear other languages. We all know gamers listen to jpn intros love'em and have NO clue what they are saying :) Also it would make great use of those big screens in pso2. perhaps we could watch anime music videos while some people sing some play instruments and dozens compete in ddr. Would make a great 16+ coop player game.

johnjacob
Sep 6, 2011, 11:03 AM
No. 5char

Heskett
Sep 6, 2011, 11:05 AM
No, stop.

BIG OLAF
Sep 6, 2011, 11:08 AM
Joke topic.

....hopefully.

NoiseHERO
Sep 6, 2011, 11:11 AM
playable instruments... interesting I guess if it doesn't suck... (Something like wario diy or something or something or something i dunno.)

DDR and and singing LOLOLOLOL.

I highly doubt it though, this isn't mabinogi.

lostinseganet
Sep 6, 2011, 11:12 AM
Joke topic.

....hopefully.
What? people dance in mmo's all the time. The only big hurdle would be copyright. Yet sega makes music...lots of it. Imagine the burning rangers song in the scenario!

Pillan
Sep 6, 2011, 11:16 AM
Well, it has already been confirmed that PSO2 does have the dance animations used in PSU and PSP2 while in the lobbies. However, I would not really want it to go further into a full DDR mini-game.

NoiseHERO
Sep 6, 2011, 11:18 AM
Well, it has already been confirmed that PSO2 does have the dance animations used in PSU and PSP2 while in the lobbies. However, I would not really want it to go further into a full DDR mini-game.

those dances were temporary,we'll probably get different dances/more dance though

Palle
Sep 6, 2011, 11:18 AM
Where there is Sakai, all things are possible, especially if those things cheapen a once-great IP.

Voting yes to DDR, playable instruments, and karaoke.

str898mustang
Sep 6, 2011, 11:53 AM
No *facepalm* Go back to consoles if you want that

Canard de Bain
Sep 6, 2011, 12:10 PM
playable instruments... interesting I guess if it doesn't suck... (Something like wario diy or something or something or something i dunno.)

DDR and and singing LOLOLOLOL.

I highly doubt it though, this isn't mabinogi.

They have "playable" Instruments in LotRO that is pretty nice. you load in a .ABC file I think and choose an instrument.

Alnet
Sep 6, 2011, 12:17 PM
Absolutely not. There's more than enough rhythm games already out across a multitude of platforms, and PSO2 doesnt need to be one of them.

NoiseHERO
Sep 6, 2011, 12:17 PM
I think there should be MORE rhythm games...

Just...

Ones with original music. >_______>

lostinseganet
Sep 6, 2011, 12:21 PM
Where there is Sakai, all things are possible, especially if those things cheapen a once-great IP.

Voting yes to DDR, playable instruments, and karaoke.Well it would make a great use for Eyetoy like devices.

Evila
Sep 6, 2011, 02:01 PM
What. No. If I want to play a music or dance game, I'll go play one.
There's no need to mix that stuff with PSO2.
Go play Lucent Heart or Audition Online or something.

NoiseHERO
Sep 6, 2011, 02:08 PM
What. No. If I want to play a music or dance game, I'll go play one.
There's no need to mix that stuff with PSO2.
Go play Lucent Heart or Audition Online or something.

"It doesn't belong here, because it's not that kind of game and I'm unable to ignore minigames and extra that don't appeal to me."

But no really... I guess we don't really need this stuff... But I'm not complaining if they want to try new things not related to slashing monsters in the face and going to the next room.

Evila
Sep 6, 2011, 02:17 PM
"It doesn't belong here, because it's not that kind of game and I'm unable to ignore minigames and extra that don't appeal to me."
I actually love dancing, music, and karaoke games. I have a huge backlog right now! Don't go assuming things!

But honestly I'd just rather see the PSO2 staff just sit down and focus on just making a good online Phantasy Star game. No need for superfluous stuff if they can deliver a solid experience in the main department. I am just boring and don't see the point in thinking up random side things.

Cuz it's like, why play a half-baked music/whatever mini-game when I can have a much better experience playing a full game meant to deliver that experience.

As an example, PSU's Airboard Rally was no replacement for an actual racing game. It was just a novelty that became quickly forgotten once the sheen wore off for me. I'll stick to my F-Zero (even though there hasn't been a new one since Climax sob sob) and such, thanks.

In short: I like it when games are focused. More games should be focused.

Tetsaru
Sep 6, 2011, 02:31 PM
pso 2 needs ddr, Playable instruments, and karaoke.

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Serephim
Sep 6, 2011, 02:32 PM
pso 2 needs ddr, Playable instruments, and karaoke. In every mmo people dance when they are not fighting or talking. What do you think? It would be a good alternative to killing everything in sight. Also people could hear other languages. We all know gamers listen to jpn intros love'em and have NO clue what they are saying :) Also it would make great use of those big screens in pso2. perhaps we could watch anime music videos while some people sing some play instruments and dozens compete in ddr. Would make a great 16+ coop player game.

Just shut up. This topic is so stupid. Stop trolling.





-- Who am i joking. This is a great idea. Screw the haters. Why NOT have those things? : 3

I remember back when JRPGs and videogames were CREATIVE with such things. Hell yes i'd like a dancing minigame in my PSO2. Im not paying to play an MMO, im paying to play a FUN VIDEOGAME.


I agree with your idea, a good pasttime is always a great idea. I didn't use the casino in PSU very often, but it was damn fun once i got into it. They should have included a feature to bet gear and stuff on some of the games!


Perfect example?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_6Bs7GhJQ&feature=related


*nostalgasm*


i miss random fun shit like this. You blast through a giant fortress near the very end of the game, expecting a super epic battle. Instead, you get a super epic DANCE-OFF!

BTW i can't tell, but something seriously tells me the voice acting in this game was bad on purpose.

P.S. RIP Squaresoft.

Zorafim
Sep 6, 2011, 02:43 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/Zorafin/SNES%20junk/P-STAR4006.jpg

I, um... I wouldn't be against it, but, like... I don't think it SHOULD be in there. It's SEGA's game, so they'll do whatever they want with it. Just look how much company time was put into PSU's Casino, or that soccer game in PSO that nobody seemed to play. If they want it, they'll do it, and people will enjoy it if enough love is put into it.

I, I'm sorry. What? Really, this topic is random. Like, really really random. You really took me by surprise. What made you think of it?

Dinosaur
Sep 6, 2011, 02:47 PM
best thread ever

Tetsaru
Sep 6, 2011, 03:00 PM
The closest thing to this that I could see remotely working well in PSO2 would be if support-style Forces were like Final Fantasy's Bards or something. Give em some sort of musical "weapon" like the Crazy Tune and let em play music for party buffs. Or be able to play some kind of loud/obnoxious music that gets monsters dancing or covering their ears in pain, lol... kinda like Ratchet & Clank's Groovitron:

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Casts could probably have something like it in trap form (like the disco ball), but even then, there'd have to be tons of dancing animations programmed into the game...

NoiseHERO
Sep 6, 2011, 03:04 PM
*Random thought*

Videogames seem to get less interesting the better the graphics get...

Limited technology forced people to work with what they got to make art, yo! ;o;

Now everything is hollywood...

/todays gaming sucks rant#20024

Serephim
Sep 6, 2011, 03:05 PM
*Random thought*

Videogames seem to get less interesting the better the graphics get...

Limited technology forced people to work with what they got to make art, yo! ;o;

Now everything is hollywood...

/todays gaming sucks rant#20024

qft.

Man you guys are so lame. How do any of you have friends. : /

NU THIS ISNT A VIDEOGAME YOU DONT PLAY IT TO HAVE FUN YOU PLAY IT TO SLASH STUFF NO DONT TRY TO MAKE IT FUN AT ALL YOULL JUST RUIN EVERYTHING THAT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT DONT MAKE THEM LOSE FOCUS ON THE """"""GAMEPLAY"""""" LOL WAT U STOOPID WAT A DUM TOPIC LOCK PLZ SO STUPID

NoiseHERO
Sep 6, 2011, 03:17 PM
Because

Online games aren't about having fun with and connecting with a giant community.

They're about having a second job to become the best at something nobody cares about. Then saying everyone is a hypocrite or that you can do whatever you want to """""enjoy"""" your free time, (because getting a real hobby takes too much effort/talent) when people call you an "elitist" or say you "have no life."

Serephim
Sep 6, 2011, 03:40 PM
Yes.

Please, people, lighten up. God forbid someone asks about PvP again. Shit's gonna get real in here.


you guys aren't even fun to converse with anymore.

Arkios
Sep 6, 2011, 03:48 PM
Joke topic.

....hopefully.

^ This.

I voted No.

BlackCosmic
Sep 6, 2011, 03:51 PM
Yes.

Please, people, lighten up. God forbid someone asks about PvP again. Shit's gonna get real in here.


you guys aren't even fun to converse with anymore.

LMFAO, this^could be posted in many of the threads.

Zorafim
Sep 6, 2011, 03:52 PM
PvP destroyed PSU.

And~ GO

Serephim
Sep 6, 2011, 03:58 PM
PvP destroyed PSU.

And~ GO

ic wat u did

Enforcer MKV
Sep 6, 2011, 04:25 PM
I dunno. For the launch of the game, I would really rather they work on getting the balance and such done right. I mean, since so many people seemed to be upset with PSU, Sega is gonna have to work really hard to restore people's faith in Phantasy Star.

I mean, the DS game was fun, it really was, and I loved PSU, I still play it. But I really would rather them focus on getting the gameplay - the main gameplay, I mean - fixed up and working, get everything set, and release the game, and have it flourish.

If they want to put stuff like that in after they get the game released, like an expansion or something, I'd be alright with it. I probably wouldn't use it, but I wouldn't be all "This is ruining the game."

But no, for base game, no, just focus on getting the game set up nicely and running well.

Worship
Sep 6, 2011, 06:09 PM
Sure, why not.

Angelo
Sep 6, 2011, 07:15 PM
I'm sure this is a joke topic, but I'll bite.

Playable in-game instruments can actually be a great idea when executed right. LOTRO had these and it was a lot of fun.

chibiLegolas
Sep 7, 2011, 03:07 PM
More interactive mini games would be nice in the various lobbies. But should be added naturally over time. Honestly, there's more important things to add into PSO2. But once the game is well balanced, and players/developers are bored, then we can work in mini games.

Chair racing, lobby soccer, & PvP are nice ideas. But I don't think Karaoke is viable unless the game supports headsets withIN the game.
Though I personally think it'll be fun if it's possible.

lostinseganet
Sep 7, 2011, 04:28 PM
More interactive mini games would be nice in the various lobbies. But should be added naturally over time. Honestly, there's more important things to add into PSO2. But once the game is well balanced, and players/developers are bored, then we can work in mini games.

Chair racing, lobby soccer, & PvP are nice ideas. But I don't think Karaoke is viable unless the game supports headsets withIN the game.
Though I personally think it'll be fun if it's possible.What about artificial voices that mimic your fav sega songs or Vocialnoids Kinda like typing of the dead?

Serephim
Sep 7, 2011, 04:34 PM
Everyone who put no is boring and you're the reason videogames are no longer fun.

Alnet
Sep 7, 2011, 04:40 PM
Everyone who put no is boring and you're the reason videogames are no longer fun.
lmfao.

It's possible to have fun in games without them trying to put in random afterthoughts like this. I mean, nobody complains that Guitar Hero doesn't have a gameplay mode where you play a Monster Hunter clone. Don't get so bent out of shape.

Enforcer MKV
Sep 7, 2011, 04:43 PM
Everyone who put no is boring and you're the reason videogames are no longer fun.

Lol, that's not true at all.

Serephim
Sep 7, 2011, 05:15 PM
Of course it is.

MAXrobo
Sep 7, 2011, 05:24 PM
lmfao.

It's possible to have fun in games without them trying to put in random afterthoughts like this. I mean, nobody complains that Guitar Hero doesn't have a gameplay mode where you play a Monster Hunter clone. Don't get so bent out of shape.

that would be the best game of guitar hero ever

i think it would be pretty cool to have, but by no means essential.

Serephim
Sep 7, 2011, 05:31 PM
lmfao.

It's possible to have fun in games without them trying to put in random afterthoughts like this. I mean, nobody complains that Guitar Hero doesn't have a gameplay mode where you play a Monster Hunter clone. Don't get so bent out of shape.

Man are you serious?

A mode where you can take your player and guitar, and go through a stage while using the guitar controller to do stuff? That'd be fun as shit. Then i'd have something to do once i get bored of trying to finish songs. ESPECIALLY if it was multiplayer. It can take the skill the casuals learned with the controller, and direct it towards another experience. How on earth is that a bad idea o.o

Nobody complains that it doesn't have the mode, but nobody SHOULD complain should they decide to diversify their experience, because that game got VERY boring after a few weeks. You notice how nobody touches the shit anymore, right?

Once again, you guys are the reason videogames are boring now! Live with it : /

Alnet
Sep 7, 2011, 05:40 PM
Man are you serious?

A mode where you can take your player and guitar, and go through a stage while using the guitar controller to do stuff? That'd be fun as shit. Then i'd have something to do once i get bored of trying to finish songs. ESPECIALLY if it was multiplayer. It can take the skill the casuals learned with the controller, and direct it towards another experience. How on earth is that a bad idea o.o

Nobody complains that it doesn't have the mode, but nobody SHOULD complain should they decide to diversify their experience, because that game got VERY boring after a few weeks. You notice how nobody touches the shit anymore, right?

Once again, you guys are the reason videogames are boring now! Live with it : /
Cry as you might, until the development team decides it's not going to be completely pointless to throw in this tapeworm-guzzlingly stupid idea, it's not going to be in PSO2. Or any PSO game, for that matter. Whether or not you believe that video games are now all boring is up to you, friend.

You live with that.

lostinseganet
Sep 7, 2011, 06:37 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/Zorafin/SNES%20junk/P-STAR4006.jpg

I, um... I wouldn't be against it, but, like... I don't think it SHOULD be in there. It's SEGA's game, so they'll do whatever they want with it. Just look how much company time was put into PSU's Casino, or that soccer game in PSO that nobody seemed to play. If they want it, they'll do it, and people will enjoy it if enough love is put into it.

I, I'm sorry. What? Really, this topic is random. Like, really really random. You really took me by surprise. What made you think of it?
I was thinking of what can make an mmo fun without killing stuff. How to interact with others.

Palle
Sep 7, 2011, 08:27 PM
Needs more Yes votes, someone xpost to r/gaming and get us back on track.

:wacko:

PrinceBrightstar
Sep 7, 2011, 09:03 PM
As a point for, if Macross 7 has taught us anything, it's possible to both sing a song and pilot a VF at the same time during a battle...perhaps the same idea could work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBgOi4Vyra8

...also I'm aware of the fact that Basara is a pacifist and doesn't actually hurt anyone so no need to point that out. Also this could be a way to once against bring Space Channel 5 into things (even though PSU gave that series a severely reduced role, probably because of the lawsuit that took place some years back.)

NoiseHERO
Sep 7, 2011, 10:58 PM
Space channel 5 dance off against dark falz event mission.

PSO2 will win so many game of the year awards.

yoshiblue
Sep 7, 2011, 11:08 PM
Depends on who reviews it.

Serephim
Sep 7, 2011, 11:31 PM
IGN are the f***ots of the critic world. Gamespot is only slightly better. They're worst sometimes, though.

They are so damn full of bias it isn't even funny. I watched them review a fighting game, give it a 9.5, and then when the expansion game out, they lowered the score by like 2 whole points because it "reused sprites and BGMs". What. The fuck. They'll take points off a game for not fufilling one of their own suggestions, as if they themselves are dictators of good videogames. Im almost 89% sure companies pay them to say some things. Im not even joking. They fan flame wars, they write COMPLETELY USELESS articles with misleading titles just to vent their own shitty opinions and get views....


I really, really hate that so much of the gaming community is represented by them. Hell, g4 gets annoying as well.


People need to start paying attention to the other review sites, that dont score with shitty grading systems, and instead score based on whether they liked the game or not, which is ALL that matters in the long run. The more we keep standardizing videogames, the fucking worse they're going to get. We'll be chasing Halo and Call of Duty until the end of time.

Zorafim
Sep 8, 2011, 12:46 AM
Space channel 5 dance off against dark falz event mission.

PSO2 will win so many game of the year awards.

Where's the rate up button? People need to know that this post is gold.



I was thinking of what can make an mmo fun without killing stuff. How to interact with others.

Alright, knowing the thought process that made the post makes it make more sense. Yeah, MMOs are learning to do side stuff, time wasters if you will, to give the players a break from playing the game while still letting them play the game. I shouldn't use WoW as an example, because really, how many posts ended well which started with "But in WoW...". That being said, they add a TON of things in there for you to do which has nothing to do with leveling up, doing instances, questing, raids, PvP... Hell, actually, there's so much in that game that it makes a bad example just because there's no main game. There's just stuff to do. But anyway, beyond the normal stuff, there's things like professions, collecting pets and mounts, doing achievements, and just simply exploring the world and seeing the sights.

Gah, now I'm just glorifying Blizzard. Point is, MMO makers copy WoW because it's popular, so they incorporate things WoW has. And because of this, many games add stuff not involving killing stuff. I think these have been mentioned before, but PSO had chair racing and soccer, PSU had the casino and lobby interactions (VCC used to joke that PSU was the best chat program they've ever used), so PSO2 will have something too.
Again, I don't think PSO2 SHOULD have any specific side stuff, but I'd be overjoyed to try whatever they cook up out once it's actually made. If it so happens to be DDR, then hell, even better! I love that game!

Nitro Vordex
Sep 8, 2011, 01:04 AM
No.

FOCL.

Zorafim
Sep 8, 2011, 01:06 AM
I LOVED FLCL!

Keilyn
Sep 8, 2011, 01:15 AM
pso 2 needs ddr, Playable instruments, and karaoke. In every mmo people dance when they are not fighting or talking. What do you think? It would be a good alternative to killing everything in sight. Also people could hear other languages. We all know gamers listen to jpn intros love'em and have NO clue what they are saying :) Also it would make great use of those big screens in pso2. perhaps we could watch anime music videos while some people sing some play instruments and dozens compete in ddr. Would make a great 16+ coop player game.

You mean Japanese RPGs.

In most MMORPGs when players are not fighting, they are either sitting down to recover HP and MP faster or they are chatting in Guild Chat or Party Chat.

Also, console gamers tend to listen to Japanese RPG intros and music and they like them, but that is a small percentage.....

When I was majoring in music, I took an interest in Early Japanese music like Gagaku before listening to middle eastern music. The place I went to school shared Graduate and Undergraduate studies so during my stay of the 100s that majored in music I remained the only student in the entire department who actually researched topics in Japanese music for years. Of the faculty, I saw only one Ethnomusicologist who knew about Japanese music....and she was native Japanese.

Japanese music really isn't that popular. JPOP and JROCK have a small following and more people get introduced to bands by the openings to anime and video games. Its true that concerts get packed by fanatics and all....but yes.

There is a difference between hearing it normally and studying Japanese forms.

I wouldn't incorporate any of the stuff you said into the game because if it did, I wouldn't want to come to a point I need to use in-game instruments to accomplish game goals...nor I wouldn't want SEGA to have one more thing they can use in Cash shops to exploit players.