Nico Nico PSO2 Fan Briefing

[Rath-Kun]

http://bumped.org/psublog/phantasy-star-online-2-fan-briefing-the-2nd/

Did anyone want to get a group skype conversation going during the briefing and watch it? Tonight (May 2nd/3rd) at 9PM PST and midnight EST.


"UPDATE: Good news guys! Now you can create your account in English at niconico.com! Accounts made at niconico.com can be used at nicovideo.jp." I knew there was a sign up in english!

http://www.niconico.com/

You can make your NicoNico account there, thanks PSO Addict. And the link to watch it is.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv90655602

There.

[Taitu]

Sure, sign me up.

Skype: enzanijuiin2

[PSO Addict]

Was waiting for Mike to make a thread but I'll be posting here for the sleepover!!

[Tetsaru]

Cool, I'll have to remember to watch this tonight. :)

[Peejay]

I've already submitted my request.

[vividspider]

If I'm still up at midnight I'll join.
My skype is vivid-spider

[MelancholyWitch]

I'd like to join, who should I message on skype for invite ?

[Rath-Kun]

I can invite you.

[Gardios]

Man, if only I could watch...

Is anyone doing a summary of this?

[PSO Addict]

I'm sure there will be recordings, summaries and translations by morning. Some of us just can't wait that long...

[Nurusanura]

Add me please! Nuru Sanura ^^

[goldwing]

Do u need an account on nico nico to watch the live stream?

[Joe Friday]

I'm sorry if this is a very noobish question, but do you need anything to view the Nico Nico stream, or can you simply click on the link to watch? I'd really like to see the new area being unveiled first thing in the morning. :)

EDIT: Ha, and just before I post this, someone else asks the same question!

[goldwing]

I'm sorry if this is a very noobish question, but do you need anything to view the Nico Nico stream, or can you simply click on the link to watch? I'd really like to see the new area being unveiled first thing in the morning. :)

EDIT: Ha, and just before I post this, someone else asks the same question!

Lol sorry it happens

[vividspider]

Pretty sure you need a nico account to watch any videos on there.
I've had an account with nico for a long time

[goldwing]

Pretty sure you need a nico account to watch any videos on there.
I've had an account with nico for a long time

Mk ty

[MrTurkleton]

stupid question but who/what is this Nico Nico? This is honestly the first time ive heard of it.

[Joe Friday]

OK thanks vividspider. I'd better see if there's anything about creating an account there. :)

Lol, np at all goldwing.

EDIT: Found this guide: http://nico-wiki.com/basics/how-to-create-an-account/

[Rath-Kun]

Its basically the JP version of youtube?

[PSO Addict]

"UPDATE: Good news guys! Now you can create your account in English at niconico.com! Accounts made at niconico.com can be used at nicovideo.jp." I knew there was a sign up in english!

http://www.niconico.com/

[Joe Friday]

Yeah, made mine at Niconico.com and logged in at Niconico.jp without any problems. :D

[Porkmaster]

Guess I can spice things up in the Skype conversation. My Skype name is Nerjinzul1, hit me up.

[Rath-Kun]

Signed up with my facebook. ;D

[Ark22]

Invite me, Skype ID Ark-22-

[goldwing]

sweet i made an account on the english one. thanks for the info PSO Addict

[Kinujou]

Count me in, my id is enochheal

[MegaMario85]

count me in as well

-MarioMitch2591

[Blackheart521]

I'll try to get on but my internet sucks lol, but my skype is Blackheart5212

[Kraiseson]

Did it happen yet?

[Peejay]

It's going right now, the call is anyyways. The Fan Briefing still has a few hours yet.

[PSO Addict]

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv90655602

There is a countdown in the box next to the doors. 4 hours and 20 minutes until doors open as I post.

[Rath-Kun]

Link is also on the front page. ;D

[Angelo]

They always do this shit right during my commute to work.

It's literally the only time of the day I don't have access to a PC.

[foreignreign]

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease announce an OBT date, or maybe even a CBT2 date.

I don't even care if the OBT is a month from now, or later. I just want a date.

[Rath-Kun]

They may not have a date, seeing how they are currently working on the bugs. May take longer then they expect. but they could always release the open beta and patch in things later.

[PSO Addict]

Hey, check it out! I'm on the front page. I'm famous!

[Kraiseson]

you all speak japanese? Whats the point if you dont understand lol.

[PSO Addict]

THEY ARE GONNA SHOW NEW WEAPONS AND A NEW FIELD!

[kyuuketsuki]

you all speak japanese? Whats the point if you dont understand lol.
It's a video where they show stuff. You're not just looking at a couple people speaking Japanese.

[Lyric]

you all speak japanese? Whats the point if you dont understand lol.

They'll possibly be showing off new content. You don't have to understand Japanese to recognize things like that. Most will worry about the translation once one of our beloved translators here has the time in their schedule to present us with one.

[Enforcer MKV]

and someone is going to record this, right? for everyone's future viewing pleasure?

[Rath-Kun]

PSO Blog will have all of the information on it tomorrow I am assuming.

And I know SOMEONE will put it up on youtube.

[Kraiseson]

lol. I'll just wait for it to be translated.

[Rath-Kun]

But the gameplayyyyyyy~

[PSO Addict]

Nonbeliever!!!

[Kraiseson]

I'm a believer.. just a patient one..

[lostinseganet]

Hey, check it out! I'm on the front page. I'm famous! i still kinda remember my first time on the front page. I was filled with glee :)

[PSO Addict]

Yay! :bday:

[PSO Addict]

Two hours left! Whose excited for the sleepover party?!

[Dabian]

New info = I'm excited.

[goldwing]

im excited for the sleepover!!!!!!

[PSO Addict]

Everyone else must be napping.

[serenade]

tempted to watch, but might just wait for translated info.

[goldwing]

Everyone else must be napping.

well we are up lol


tempted to watch, but might just wait for translated info.
you might as well join us and look at translations later

[MelancholyWitch]

so 1 hour and 30 mins left? who's all on skype? who do I message for said skype invites ?

[PSO Addict]

Yes, 90 minutes left. I can't wait.

[Rath-Kun]

so 1 hour and 30 mins left? who's all on skype? who do I message for said skype invites ?

My Skype is

<----------------

Right there.

Just send me a message and I can add you.

[Kraiseson]

you guys are fucking hardcore LOL :-D;-)8-):-?:-P:argh:

[PSO Addict]

Thank you for your understanding and compliments.

[Dabian]

Also, I'll watch and rewatch the eventual uploads just in case I miss anything. God forbid I miss anything! :p

[goldwing]

im right there with ya dabian

[Ryo]

Is Nico Nico the only place to watch this live?

[lostinseganet]

Also, I'll watch and rewatch the eventual uploads just in case I miss anything. God forbid I miss anything! :pYou will miss something...

[goldwing]

Is Nico Nico the only place to watch this live?

looks that way

[Dabian]

A few hours after (or minutes cuz I always underestimate peoples' tenacity/passion) the actual stream, it won't be the only place to watch it.

But yea, why watch it on DVD when the concert's coming to town?

OMG I blinked!.

[KyAniki]

Is Nico Nico the only place to watch this live?

Think so but it's pretty easy to register in English so not a huge challenge. I'm pretty excited to see any new things

[Cayenne]

I'll wait for the someone to upload it on youtube.

I think I speak for a lot of us in saying we are too lazy to make an account for nico nico :P

[PSO Addict]

It's pretty easy and I get to double my usage tonight as I watched the media briefing for the beta.... Wow.. That was a month ago. I'm excited and the registration wasn't going to stand in my way!

[PSO Addict]

The doors are open! Do we have anyone to translate?

[serenade]

well we are up lol


you might as well join us and look at translations later

ksdflglfg

i dont have a mic, and i dont feel like using my phone. i can only do the chat messaging. if thats what everyone else is doing i guess i'll join until i pass out.

chalkamo19

[Kurushii]

Restreaming it @ http://www.own3d.tv/kurushii

[BIG OLAF]

I'm sitting in the video page waiting. All that Japan-talk whizzing around the screen.

[PSO Addict]

The chat bubble option turns off the floating text but it's the only thing to watch at this point I guess.

[serenade]

that fact that i saw nothign but JP gibberish and then one single "this gun be gud" was enough to highlight this video.

[TierrenZX]

I see a lot of comments involving 630 : D

[Keii]

Tweeting what is being said/shown on my twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/Hasemo).

[foreignreign]

147k downloads
131k accounts?
Average 63k people logged in each day?
Highest amount of people on at once was 23.5k?

Think those were the 4 numbers he's talking about right now

[PSO Addict]

I understerstood "Open Beta Testo!!" and that was I was worried about getting in to the beta...

[kudo]

Desert :O

[foreignreign]

Ririipa is the name if you were wondering.

Robots in the desert, huh.

[PSO Addict]

I wanted the snow level... But the desert looks awesome! As expected of course...

[kudo]

The Daagaa boss fight looks interesting. Is that desert planet inclusive of a new city or something? Kinda looks like it.

[BIG OLAF]

Giant sandworm in the desert...makes sense. Also, those 'bots probably have something to do with that abandoned facility in the desert.

EDIT: Also, the lizard dudes are capable of speech...most interesting. Looks like the story may be more in-depth than some gave it credit for.

[PSO Addict]

UUUUUGGGH!! I WANT IT!!!!

And the Evil Shark talks!!

[kudo]

The new story quests look cool :D sand wabbits.

Class level for OBT will be until 30, and it'll start at 40 for full release.

[PSO Addict]

The new clothes are looking good.

[BIG OLAF]

I know the mohawk and afro will make many people happy.

Also, those new weapons look awesome.

[kudo]

Cash weapons and mags :O That snow field looks really good. Looks like a puzzle map.

And is it just because it's in a video or does everything seem faster.

That snow....cat? boss looks hard, strikes fast, doesn't seem like being a ranger will help all that much anymore, no way you'll be noobtubing with that.

[PSO Addict]

I should not be watching this... I'll never be able to wait.... Though that is no differant than before... Love the snow level and the shady mag with the hat!

[Kion]

The beta test was meant to test two aspects.
1)Game system
-Matter boards (story)
-Game Balance
2) Arks Cash

Game client
147,000 Client Download
131,000 players
63,000 average log ins per day
23,500 largest number of people accessing at one time (on April 21)

Early Summer Release (planned)
Will be working out any network problems before open beta test
No exact date is currently scheduled, please look at pso2 blog for more information

Character Creator Contest
Ends May 11th

::New information::

:New Planet: Lilypa (Desert)
Robot enemies will be able to attack you even if broken into pieces.
New Darker enemies

:Story Board
New stories, quest characters

::Changes for Open Beta::
Beta level cap 30
Release level cap 40
Hard mode (level 20+)
More costumes, hair styles
More weapons, mag evolutions, units
Ice field added
Time Attack quest [Challenge mode]
^Will be included in rankings

[PSO Addict]

Thank you Keii and Kion!

[MelancholyWitch]

bleh looks like I missed it hopefully someone will upload it

[BIG OLAF]

Ah, Hard Mode should be good.

Also, looks like the robot enemies are going to be like the Dubchicks from PSO, but more lethal.

[foreignreign]

I think the best part of the montages is that none of the monsters really looked like carbon copies of each other

Except like, the trash mob Darkers, but that kind of makes sense

The bosses all looked awesome though

Sakai why you no give date :(

[Dre_o]

Damn, was hoping for more than just a glimpse of whatever weapon the HUmar had in the background of the cutscene...oh well. They're putting in work on this game man.

[Reia]

They said something about 7th May, what was it? it was related to the CBT.

[Eggobandit]

Kept expecting to see reskins. Saw that Rockbear reskin. And immediately saw new attacks.

But i dont get any real reskins. We get new enemies, every time.


every. time.

When i saw the guy jump from one mammoth to get onto the bigger one i was like "YESSSSS"


When i saw that freaking supersavage wolf dash across the screen and one-hit that noob i was like """"""""""YYEEEESSSSS""""""""""""

Keep expecting to be disappointed somewhere. I am not disappointed in the slightest. I am quite satisfied.



Should....i start expecting this? Being impressed, i mean. Is it really Happening?

[ShadowDragon28]

OMG... I've got chills. Lots of AWESOME stuff, some mega awesome elements from classic Phantasy Star and PSO are back. Mammoth monsters, Ant Lions, Ice & Snow fields (ala Dezoris), robot enemies, Challenge Mode is back as "Time Attack Quest"... It all looking awesome IMO.

[Rath-Kun]

OMG... I've got chills. Lots of AWESOME stuff, some mega awesome elements from classic Phantasy Star and PSO are back. Mammoth monsters, Ant Lions, Ice & Snow fields (ala Dezoris), robot enemies, Challenge Mode is back as "Time Attack Quest"... It all looking awesome IMO.

Same, I got fuckin goosebumps. Give me them roses.

[D-Inferno]

Still no Zan (Wind technique). :(

[Zaix]

They said something about 7th May, what was it? it was related to the CBT.

Thats when the Closed Beta survey ends

[foreignreign]

They said something about 7th May, what was it? it was related to the CBT.

Pretty sure that's when the deadline for the CBT questionnaire is.

[RocketZX]

damn hard mode already?
oh well it WAS level 25 in PSO1 before.
and level 20 on japanese PSO1
idc what people say, starting hard mode at lv20 is difficult.
but anyways did they mention a OB date yet? that's all I wanna know, so I can plan around it.

[Kion]

They said something about 7th May, what was it? it was related to the CBT.

I didn't include that. It's the cut off date for the Closed Beta test survey.

[Touka]

Rather disappointed with that briefing,the new zones were nice but no new weapons made me a sad panda.

[soulpimpwizzurd]

nice to see things will get more hectic. those fast strafing mecha mobs look pretty annoying, as does that one sabretooth looking boss with the huge fast range lunge attack.

the fact that some boss mobs seem like they move so fast make sword gear look less and less appealing though, since you can't keep hitting the boss to keep the gear up...

we'll see how it turns out.

[NoiseHERO]

Still no Zan (Wind technique). :(

There ARE wind techs, they were found in the games data.

Anyway, we got Challenge mode, HARD MODE, and Afro's...

I'm set.

Was still looking out for new weapon types, but I guess they meant new weapons in types already released.

[PSO Addict]

The flower rifle and rappy card were a couple of the new weapons, you missed them. They also showed rare units and more mag evolutions.

[ZeroEx]

Recorded the whole thing, just in case someone didn't record it lol.

[BIG OLAF]

Rather disappointed with that briefing,the new zones were nice but no new weapons made me a sad panda.

They showed new weapons...

...unless you mean weapon "types", in which case I agree.

[Touka]

Yes I mean types.

[jmanx]

Did anyone recorded this

[Eggobandit]

After all that super amazing stuff....the story still bothers me. On the one hand, im REALLY interested to see how the Hunter vs. Hunter battle will be like to play. (Oh and HI dumans)


On the other hand..


....like, are there ANY male characters in this game? no, really, are there?


Every side character, every bystander, every person you talk to on whatever planet you end up on is female.

[Rath-Kun]

Thank you Kion, thats awesome. Quick translation, greatly appreciated.

[RocketZX]

Should....i start expecting this? Being impressed, i mean. Is it really Happening?
I KNOW RIGHT? they are changing the series for the better this time.
bringing back everything that made PSO awesome, mixing with the good elements of each game.
fixing all the things, though minor, from PSO like party searching made easy, exp share not requiring landing a hit, multiparty missions where you can quite literally grind all day since enemies respawn infinitely!

[D-Inferno]

There ARE wind techs, they were found in the games data.

Anyway, we got Challenge mode, HARD MODE, and Afro's...

I'm set.

Was still looking out for new weapon types, but I guess they meant new weapons in types already released.

My problem is that they haven't even shown them yet, and we are nearing the open beta (which has you xferring your char data to the final).

Also, 75% of the game so far is weak to Fire (Forest AND Ice Wall; every single Darker shown). Hopefully weakness chance up in Hard mode.

[foreignreign]

On the other hand..


....like, are there ANY male characters in this game? no, really, are there?


Every side character, every bystander, every person you talk to on whatever planet you end up on is female.

... the main villain they showed was male.

I really think you're griping for the sake of griping. And Xeno was shown more in the story element than any other ally NPC, since he was the one fighting the bad guy.

[Crysteon]

Hmmm, the snow field looks interesting and monsters from there, especially bosses, seem to be quite intense to fight. As for Lillipa's desert.....I want one of those frigging wabbits D: !!

[soulpimpwizzurd]

Every side character, every bystander, every person you talk to on whatever planet you end up on is female.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING

[stheno]

I'm excited for Time attack mode! I wonder if you start with nothing like challenge mode or not.

[Rath-Kun]

Fuckin' Tatooine and Ewoks announced.

[PSO Addict]

Waiting for X-Wing Arks Cash Camp Ship.

[Rath-Kun]

New MAGs looks so fuckin sexy.

[Eggobandit]

... the main villain they showed was male.

I really think you're griping for the sake of griping. And Xeno was shown more in the story element than any other ally NPC, since he was the one fighting the bad guy.

No im not. It's a fairly straightforward observation! Everyone on this game is a female. Xeno, the bad guy (naturally with his servicebot at his side), and that one other guy are like, the only dudes.





ANYWAY.



PSO2 Confirmed to be Star Ocean 5.

(surely im not the only one who saw this....)

[Hansha]

Looks like it's time to time travel to the future.

[MelancholyWitch]

Does anyone know if anything about PvP was mentioned in this briefing?

[kyuuketsuki]

Stream finished, PSU blog already has some screenshots up. (http://bumped.org/psublog/category/phantasy-star-online-2/)

Loving the snow/ice levels. And the lizards talk.
Does anyone know if anything about PvP was mentioned in this briefing?
Nope.

[foreignreign]

No im not. It's a fairly straightforward observation! Everyone on this game is a female. Xeno, the bad guy (naturally with his servicebot at his side), and that one other guy are like, the only dudes.

What about the HUmar they're using as a fill-in for the main character?

Could've easily have used a HUney with giant tatas.

[NoiseHERO]

This game really has time travel? I don't care time travel is the perfect way to get multipl unique setiings. (chrono trigger)

desert planet is looking close to the post apocalyptic/mad max setting I wanted.

And city invasion mission already has the post apocalyptic ... destroyed city setting I wanted.

Both of these things I was hoping for a WHILE ago.

[goldwing]

Ugh where are my daggers!!!! Im loveing the new stuff needles to say.

[Rath-Kun]

This game really has time travel? I don't care time travel is the perfect way to get multipl unique setiings. (chrono trigger)

Loves me some Chrono Trigger.

[jmanx]

Fuckin' Tatooine and Ewoks announced.

yup lol

[RocketZX]

NEWCOMER: EWOK!

[jmanx]

Bet that guy is Xeno's father to

[aaron_yume]

and someone is going to record this, right? for everyone's future viewing pleasure?

I recorded the stream though in the raw format I captured it in it is currently taking up 32gb of space on my HDD, so am currently re-encoding in an mkv container with AVC/FLAC though I will likely have a html 5 video up and running sometime tomorrow for all those that want to watch it.

I might perhaps also rough translate it if I feel in the mood to do so but don't hold your breathe for me to do that any time soon.

[Kraiseson]

Damn dude level 30 cap for OB?

=/

Thats like 1-2 days . Maybe a weeks worth of other content and dinking around, but my main motivation is constantly grinding. I can see myself trying everything and hunting some stuff.. but beyond that.. I need higher level cap to stay completely interested..

Not that the content wont be in plenty of supply... Im probably gonna play all day everyday.. when u play like that.. it can get old real quick unless theres a reason to keep loggin on.

[kyuuketsuki]

PSU Blog (http://bumped.org/psublog/category/phantasy-star-online-2/) has screenshots from the video as well as the video itself up already, if you're interested.

[Rath-Kun]

I can be the reason to play. ;D

Gonna be playin' fo' deeeees.

[kyuuketsuki]

http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ScreenShot151.jpg

Loving the 3rd outfit from the left (female non-cast).

[Vashyron]

Uploaded videos of the shown videos of new footage... :wacko:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBZBbgU8AwU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxbHpHQMXj8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezvA19a-IEo

More so interest points for those who can't speak JP, someone potentially recorded the whole thing around here.

Edit: Yep beaten. Lol.

[Crystal_Shard]

Loving the 3rd outfit from the left (female non-cast).

That's Echo's outfit, but in blue. The first outfit is Xeno's in a different colour as well. Both were already announced as cash shop outfits if I recall correct.

[Kraiseson]

Hmmm Looks fun... Guess level 30 will have to do. =/

[Arika]

highest population the peak time 23,500 people together on first day only...

So this is much different than what they mention about capacity to hold 100k players together. only 20k and their server already nearly broken...

At first i thought there was 100k population on the first day together or something that causing lag,

[Chik'Tikka]

highest population the peak time 23,500 people together on first day only...

So this is much different than what they mention about capacity to hold 100k players together. only 20k and their server already nearly broken...

At first i thought there was 100k population on the first day together or something that causing lag,

hmm, from the 30th blog i think there may have been some hardware in-compatibilities or difficulties causing the lag, and it may have been server specific, I'm in the Midwest USA and i played only on ship 6 (i was late, so what.) and i suffered almost no lag whatsoever+^_^+

[Kion]

I didn`t want to translate the techno-mumbo jumbo posted on the blog. From what I can tell is that the servers and clients were sending different amounts of data causing time out errors and kicking people off.

[Vashyron]

[spoiler-box]http://www.4gamer.net/games/120/G012075/20120503002/SS/015.jpg[/spoiler-box]

http://www.4gamer.net/games/120/G012075/20120503002/

High res screenshots here btw.

[Rath-Kun]

The backround picture of the girl loaded first.

All I thought was "the hell?" until it loaded. xD

[Chik'Tikka]

I didn`t want to translate the techno-mumbo jumbo posted on the blog. From what I can tell is that the servers and clients were sending different amounts of data causing time out errors and kicking people off.

as an IT major I'd love to know every specific thing that went wrong and their plan of action for identifying and implementing possible fixes but god knows by the time i learn enough Katakanji to read it myself we'll all be 115 on PSO2+^_^+ what i would give to look at all those shiny new racks they have set up+^_^+

[Kion]

Katakanji+^_^+

You win 100 internet points.

But for technical details, they haven't really said anything. They only gave a general explanation for what was going wrong and that they've delayed the open beta test to work on it.

[Zaix]

Is the 2nd part of the Fan briefing going to be streamed?

[Soul Guardian]

A burrowing worm-like boss thing in a desert? *flashbacks to EP4*

I was hoping for an open beta date, but all this other stuff is good enough.
Hard Mode in particular is good, because the game so far has been really easy, unless I failed a dodge on Ragne's blood wave thing and died (or if I got hit by it during a resurrection animation and died -again-, woo...)

[Rath-Kun]

I don't think so. ;-;

[MelancholyWitch]

so no word on this 2nd part? if anyone else is still on skype discussing it...just curious if anyone actually knows someone physically at the briefing.

[kyuuketsuki]

That's Echo's outfit, but in blue.
Yeah that's what I thought it was. Still love it.
A burrowing worm-like boss thing in a desert? *flashbacks to EP4*
No wai... this is totally desert De Rol Le. D=

[Soul Guardian]

No wai... this is totally desert De Rol Le. D=

Well I was thinking at the time that it vaguely reminded me of Shambertin/Saint Million/Kondrieu, but yeah De Rol Le works too.

[Rath-Kun]

I NEED PSO2 NAO, PRZ D:

[Freshellent]

Yo, those new CAST parts lookin' baaaalllin.

[MelancholyWitch]

So from viewing it I can see that enemy weapons are back? Don't tell me somehow Dr. Montague is still alive and Heh heh heh... wants our enemy parts.

[ShadowDragon28]

OMG I want that Dark Sword that the NPC that attack Zeno had... and that villains dark long coat-suit. I'd love to get that outfit as well... FFS they better make those available in-game. I'd put in at least $35 into the Arcs Scratch to get that black coat. I want to hunt like mad for that Dark Sword...

[Angelo]

Dark darkety dark-dark.

[DemonMike]

I KNEW IT! I fucking knew I heard the Dinians and the Dragon talked in the caves!

Just been watching the first video of the Nico Nico Stream, does any one else feel like that Phantasy Star is going back to it's Star Wars ripping off ways like we saw in the very first game on the Master System? Because I'm loving all this nostalgia.

[Rath-Kun]

The Ewok creatures?

And Tatooine Moatoob? xD

[DemonMike]

The Ewok creatures?

And Tatooine Moatoob? xD

EXACTLY what I was thinking! Please, accept these internet cookies.

[Enforcer MKV]

still feels more like Star Ocean 5 than Star Wars. Probably because everyone so colorful.



Anyone else...notice that we've seen 5 environments so far and none of them are indoors?

yes, that's one of only two things that is making me sad. The other thing?.....

I WANT TO SEE THE FREAKING KNUCKLES!!!! AND I DON'T MEAN UNARMED! I MEAN THE DARN BRICKS FROM PSU!

/regaincomposure

[DemonMike]

Anyone else...notice that we've seen 5 environments so far and none of them are indoors?

Don't worry, they'll get around to that soon.

If it helps, I put that I wanted Eternal Tower to return in the comments section of the feedback form =P

[NoiseHERO]

still feels more like Star Ocean 5 than Star Wars. Probably because everyone so colorful.



Anyone else...notice that we've seen 5 environments so far and none of them are indoors?

I would like a lab or some kind of facility with lots of neon lights or some underground city, but PSU didn't handle indoors very well and kind of made me sick of reskinned hallways and huge rooms that MAY AS WELL be outside.

This game is even MORE fast paced that PSU so, it would need the bigger areas, but I am curious to see how they would work out indoor quests. or maybe a mission where we start out side, then go INSIDE of a facility, that would make more sense and feel a little more interactive compared to just teleporting to the starting room. (But we're already doing that when we go to the caves...)

In the sky...bottom of a cave... hrrmm... Well we're using teleporters but in the opening we're droping like meterorites... I dunno.

[Soul Guardian]

I would like a lab or some kind of facility with lots of neon lights or some underground city, but PSU didn't handle indoors very well and kind of made me sick of reskinned hallways and huge rooms that MAY AS WELL be outside.

This game is even MORE fast paced that PSU so, it would need the bigger areas, but I am curious to see how they would work out indoor quests. or maybe a mission where we start out side, then go INSIDE of a facility, that would make more sense and feel a little more interactive compared to just teleporting to the starting room. (But we're already doing that when we go to the caves...)

In the sky...bottom of a cave... hrrmm... Well we're using teleporters but in the opening we're droping like meterorites... I dunno.

Well the forest area was outdoors yet mostly large areas connected by narrow halls...so anything like PSO's mines could easily work, if you think about it.

[NoiseHERO]

Well the forest area was outdoors yet mostly large areas connected by narrow halls...so anything like PSO's mines could easily work, if you think about it.

I actually didn't like PSO's mines. D:

I just liked the boss and sinows.

Best indoor mission I can think of is that one mission from PSP2 where you fight the giant 4 leg'd robot. Then seabed and spaceship from ep2 was pretty cool. But something like those when we're jumping around and nuking stuff like gundams with keyblades... hmm... They can probably think of something, I'm just thinking of how PSO2 would play out with the design of those old missions for no reason.

[Nurusanura]

I can imagine a second area being on the desert planet, possibly an in-door area since the place had a lot of ruins. So there is always that possibility.

[Brus]

I think they've just kind of grown out of indoor environments.


I can see why they havent jumped on them yet, though. PSO2's environments are much bigger and more fleshed out than any one of PSU's areas though.


I think it would actually be a challenge to design indoor levels that don't feel like the traditional PSO/PSU style dungeon setup. PSO Episode 4 did a WONDERFUL job with the Subterranian Desert, but that wasn't necessarily a "building" persay.



I think the 'Ruins' are obviously going to be some kind of indoor area. It doesn't bother me that we havnent seen any, it's just...a bit odd.



I'd be stoked to see an actual building, though. I mean a REAL building, with stairs, multiple floors, tables and stuff to throw monsters through...you know, a real building. Seeing the PSO Mines remade like that would be super awesome.


As much as I would absolutely love a building with multiple floors, I doubt they'd ever do it properly JUST because they wouldnt be able to get it right with their 2d map. If they ever did the building floors would probably just be separated by the end of each area. Would be thrilled if I was wrong, though!

[Vent]

As much as I would absolutely love a building with multiple floors, I doubt they'd ever do it properly JUST because they wouldnt be able to get it right with their 2d map. If they ever did the building floors would probably just be separated by the end of each area. Would be thrilled if I was wrong, though!

It's not as far-fetched as you might think. If you look at the lobby area, it has high relief without loading screens. The two floors of the lobby is already radically different than PSU's Clyez City. If they can do two floors, I bet they can multiple ones too.

One should be more worried about how battles would go. Collision detection uses the vertical axis, so that is not the problem. However, things like aggro and event triggering mechanisms might not use it yet and adjusting those might give unexpected problems.

[ShadowDragon28]

yeah, the volcanic caves are soo all outdoors and shit. *sarcasm*....

[TDoun LMekko]

yeah, the volcanic caves are soo all outdoors and shit. *sarcasm*....

Actually, if you looked up while in them you'd notice the sky is very clearly visible. It's really more of a valley than a cave.

[CelestialBlade]

That undersea lab in PSP2 where you fight Reol Badia was by far my favorite map from the PSU-era, would love to see something like that again. Ancient's Ship in Infinity was really cool too, as was the Clad 6 beach resort map. We totally need beaches (and swimwear, dammit!).

The more I look at the desert planet, the more I like it and am intrigued by it. I'm gonna laugh if it ends up being the ruins of Motavia or something...but that's just my whimsical longing for a connection to the classic series talking.

[Quebe_Lae]

Videos too blurry. Is there a Chao on a stick yet?

[FerrPSO]

I guess we wont be able to read any of the Q&A they did after the fan briefing right?

[xBladeM6x]

This was awesome. REALLY looking forward to this. :3

[Ezodagrom]

Actually, if you looked up while in them you'd notice the sky is very clearly visible. It's really more of a valley than a cave.
Actually, the sky is only visible in block 2:
Cave block 1 - http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2972/pso2046.jpg
Cave block 2 - http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4467/pso2047.jpg

[LokinModar]

If you can remember, there were underground areas in the city quest map that had the "Cannot join" sign in its doors. Maybe they have an subway area planned or something like that....

[cheapgunner]

The vids looked sweet. Thanks.

[aslan_blue]

Actually, Today's Fan Briefing had Part2 only for today's participants at Akihabara.

According to the tweets posted by the person who had joined briefing,

1. 1AC=1￥(Price of AC shop items at CBT was a provisional one , so it will be changed when releasing) , and the price of premium package(virtually P2P package ) will be close to the one for Guardian's licence of PSU.

2. Symbol chat is considering to will be able to edit in offline, due to a lot of request from CBT testers.

3. Addition of New weapon category after released is plannning, -Yes, Knuckles and double-savors!! (・∀・)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23PSO2

[LokinModar]

They showed in a secret footage some new futuristic scenario...


via http://bumped.org/psublog/
http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/new-map-450x337.jpg

[Goat666]

@aslan_blue, LokinModar
Thankz for sharing.

[Cayenne]

Knuckles and double sabers?

Oh yes *drools*

[NoiseHERO]

3. Addition of New weapon category is planning after released, -Yes, Knuckle and double-savor!! (・∀・)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23PSO2

ＢＲＢｓくえあぃんｇ

ＳＱＵＥＡＬＩＮＧ　ＬＩＫＥ　ＬＩＴＴＬＥ　ＧＩＲＬ．

[Rauten]

ＳＱＵＥＡＬＩＮＧ　ＬＩＫＥ　ＬＩＴＴＬＥ　ＧＩＲＬ．

Aha! You're Afin in disguise!

[Spellbinder]

Anyone going to upload the whole briefing? I underestimated the popularity of PSO2 and wasn't able to get inside to see part 1. :( On the bright side, I did get Sakai's autograph again. ^^

[aslan_blue]

Anyone going to upload the whole briefing? I underestimated the popularity of PSO2 and wasn't able to get inside to see part 1. :( On the bright side, I did get Sakai's autograph again. ^^

If you have an Nico Nico account, the video of whole briefing part1 is here!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17717919

[Spellbinder]

If you have an Nico Nico acount, the video of whole briefing part1 is here!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17717919

Thank you ^_^

[Para]

http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ScreenShot151.jpg

Loving the 3rd outfit from the left (female non-cast).

If you haven't noticed, that's Echo's outfit.

[Ghost Inside]

Now all we need is jet-bikes to race across the wasteland~!

But wow I'm impressed with all the footage! Everything looks awesome!! ★_★ *drools*

I wonder what that super-long jump is they did in that snowy map?

[PSO Addict]

With the introduction of the time trial mode, I assume the jump pads are simply to reduce travel time.

[Rath-Kun]

Addition of New weapon category after released is plannning, -Yes, Knuckles and double-savors!! (・∀・)

My two main weps, right there.


I wonder what that super-long jump is they did in that snowy map?

Something that they are bringing from PSP2's battle mode. There were jump pads. Assuming they are just for spazzy looks?

[NoiseHERO]

I will ONLY be using knuckles

ONLYYYYYYY

/drool

[Gardios]

Now all we need is jet-bikes to race across the wasteland~!

If it's ridden by a FO, does that mean card games on motorcycles in my PSO2?

[Ryo]

I. CAN. NOT. WAIT.

DOUBLE SABERS!!!! I miss my double sabers!

[Spellbinder]

I didn't realize that part 2 was not broadcast. :O

I wouldn't worry though, there wasn't a whole lot to be missed.

The producer and 3 of the special guests from various magazines and websites took a run through the desert area and then they showed that last secret video.

And then I lost the rock, paper, scissors tournament for prizes... :(

[NoiseHERO]

I didn't realize that part 2 was not broadcast. :O

I wouldn't worry though, there wasn't a whole lot to be missed.

The producer and 3 of the special guests from various magazines and websites took a run through the desert area and then they showed that last secret video.

And then I lost the rock, paper, scissors tournament for prizes... :(

You were THERE? and you didn't get and swag? ;o;

[Yasuo-kun]

will need to watch this tonight, hopefully i can see some double saber action XD

[kyuuketsuki]

If you can remember, there were underground areas in the city quest map that had the "Cannot join" sign in its doors. Maybe they have an subway area planned or something like that....
Those were in the multi-party areas, and those were just the entrances from which other parties entered the multi-party area. Same things were present in the forest and cave multi-party areas.

If you haven't noticed, that's Echo's outfit.
Yes, as I said to the last person who pointed that out, I know. I still like it, especially in that color.

[Neith]

I know people have mentioned knuckles and double sabers but were they actually announced? All I saw in the weapons video was a few items which I assume are Special Weapons.

[Rath-Kun]

Someone yelled double sabers during part 2 of the briefing according to the blog. And they said they will be adding them in. They also mentioned knuckles.

[Cayenne]

Yes, the rares look so cool and some look so dumb but in a good way.

SEGA has learned from PSU!!!

[Gardios]

I just want my rappy shooting launcher...

[NoiseHERO]

NOPE　

WE HAVE RAPPY TALIS NOW, PICK UP A RAPPY AND TORTURE IT FEATHER BY FEATHER. AND THROWING THEM!!!!

[Enforcer MKV]

3. Addition of New weapon category after released is plannning, -Yes, Knuckles and double-savors!! (・∀・)

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23PSO2

Oh, yes! *Knocks fists together* Violet is gonna be rockin', baby!

[Rickster]

I just want my rappy shooting launcher...

lol, now I want one, too

[kyuuketsuki]

I know people have mentioned knuckles and double sabers but were they actually announced? All I saw in the weapons video was a few items which I assume are Special Weapons.
References to double-sabers and twin daggers were both found in data mining. I don't recall if knuckles were found or not.
will need to watch this tonight, hopefully i can see some double saber action XD
Nope. No weapon classes we haven't seen before were shown. Just some enemy weapons and "gag" weapons (Rappy Talis, Bouquet of Flowers Gun).

[Zorafim]

Seems kinda tough to find all the info we learned in this thread. Let me see if I have everything.

We have two new zones (Desert and Snowfield). There will be new enemies specific for this zone.

We have two new weapon classes (Double saber and Knuckles. Is this confirmed? Are there no new guns or techs?)

There is one new set of clothing for each clothing type.

There are additional weapon models in the game.

Is that everything? If it is, I'll start my comments.

The new areas look exceptional, and are great compliments to what we already have. The game lures you in with the beauty of the forest, then throws you into inhospitable, alien worlds. In each area, there are creatures that make sense for that area. And each area is some place that's completely different from the area before it.
And as overwhelmed by each area's alien beauty as I am, I need to ask. Where is my water area? I'll take a beach, or a Neudaiz styled swamp. That's fine by me.

The clothing is nothing spectacular compared to what we've already seen, but it's a welcome addition. Especially for cast, which really needs some new options. I don't think I'd use any of the new things over what we already have, but it's great to have more diversity.

Our new weapons are knuckles and double sabers? Again, is this confirmed? I don't like these choices, but I suppose it makes sense. Double sabers have been a major part of the Phantasy Star series since PSO, and needs to be in the game at release. However, I have a negative taste in my mouth from what they were in PSU, so I'm not really excited to see them. Knuckles are also a great choice, since they're already implemented via unarmed. It's not much work to add them in, and many people want them. But again, PSU knuckles left a bad taste in my mouth, so I'm not excited to see them. Still, I'll withhold judgement until I see them in action. These weapons can either be really neat, or really lame, depending on how they're handled.
No info on guns, or techs? Seems strange to give hunters two new toys, and leave out stuff for the other classes. Especially since rangers only have the two guns.

I won't comment on weapon models. I wasn't able to clearly see anything interesting, so I'll try to surprise myself for when I see them in game. I don't think we really need them yet, though. But it makes sense to have at least one weapon model for each zone and difficulty.

[kyuuketsuki]

Our new weapons are knuckles and double sabers? Again, is this confirmed?
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2749536&postcount=210

[Enforcer MKV]

References to double-sabers and twin daggers were both found in data mining. I don't recall if knuckles were found or not.
Nope.

According to Rock, they were.


Knuckles are also a great choice, since they're already implemented via unarmed. It's not much work to add them in, and many people want them. But again, PSU knuckles left a bad taste in my mouth, so I'm not excited to see them. Still, I'll withhold judgement until I see them in action.

As to whether they're confirmed, they were mentioned in the 2nd part of the briefing. No gameplay of either weapon type has been shown yet. On a personal note, I loved the PSU knuckles. I look forward to rocket punching Darker fools in the face, just like I did with the SEED.

[kyuuketsuki]

As to whether they're confirmed, they were mentioned in the 2nd part of the briefing.
Eh? Did someone translate the briefing already? Were only knuckles mentioned, or did they also mention double-sabers and/or daggers?

[NoiseHERO]

Eh? Did someone translate the briefing already? Were only knuckles mentioned, or did they also mention double-sabers and/or daggers?

Ａｐｐａｒｅｎｔｌｙ　ｄｕｒｉｎｇ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｅｃｏｎｄ　ｂｒｅｉｆｉｎｇ　Ｓｏｍｅｏｎｅ　ｆｒｏｍ 　ｔｈｅ　ｃｒｏｗｄ　ｓｈｏｕｔｅｄ　”ＤＯＵＢＬＥ　ＳＡＢＥＲＳ”　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅｙ　ｍｅｎｔｉｏ ｎｅｄ　ｔｈａｔ　ｔｈｅｙ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｒｅｌｅａｓｅ　ｂｏｔｈ　ｄｏｕｂｌｅ　ｓａｂｅｒｓ　ａｎｄ　 ｋｎｕｃｋｌｅｓ．

Ｗｅｌｌ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｉｓ　ｗｈａｔ　Ｉ’ｍ　ｇｅｔｔｉｎｇ　ｆｒｏｍ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｐｅｏｐｌｅ’ｓ　 ｐｏｓｔ．　Ａｓ　ｗｅｌｌ　ｓｏｍｅｏｎｅ　ｏｎ　ｔｗｉｔｔｅｒ　ｔｈａｔ　ａｔｔｅｎｄｅｄ　ｔｈｅ 　２ｎｄ　ｃｏｎｆｅｒｅｎｃｅ　ｓａｉｄ　ｂｏｔｈ　ｗｅａｐｏｎ　ｃａｔｅｇｏｒｉｅｓ　ｗｅｒｅ　ｍ ｅｎｔｉｏｎｅｄ

Okay I'll stop typing like that, at least when I'm being serious.

[Enforcer MKV]

-chicken scratch-

What Rock said....

[LeynasMoon]

I just want my rappy shooting launcher...

THAT.
Side note: If we get Knuckles soon, I might actually play a (sub class) Hunter for once. Because Phantasy Star Streets of Rage Online 2.

Also, can we has Phantasy Star IV's Land Rover, on Lilipa?

[Rath-Kun]

Love me some Streets of Rage.

It seems the new costumes are mostly NPC outfits. Zeno and Echo's outfits. And I dont think we've seen the CAST outfit yet. So that's new.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/new-map-2-450x337.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Metal... GEAR?! Fuckin' bring it.

[Zorafim]

Ah. So they didn't give specific information on the weapons, they just offhandedly mentioned them being implemented. And they didn't say that they'd be in the beta? That explains why there's no news on the techs or guns.

[Enforcer MKV]

[SPOILER-BOX]http://bumped.org/psublog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/new-map-2-450x337.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Metal... GEAR?! Fuckin' bring it.

HO-LY.....CAN I KEEP HIM!?

[kyuuketsuki]

So they didn't give specific information on the weapons, they just offhandedly mentioned them being implemented. And they didn't say that they'd be in the beta?
Oh, you were specifically asking about information regarding them being in the open beta or not? Nothing about open beta was mentioned at all outside of it being delayed, I believe.

[Zorafim]

Whoa, really? I really got my wires crossed.

[Vashyron]

Ah. So they didn't give specific information on the weapons, they just offhandedly mentioned them being implemented. And they didn't say that they'd be in the beta? That explains why there's no news on the techs or guns.

They have already said when they showed off Launcher / Talis / Partisan for the first time these and the previously available weapons would be the only ones currently planned to be available at release.

[Enforcer MKV]

They have already said when they showed off Launcher / Talis / Partisan for the first time these and the previously available weapons would be the only ones available at release.

Woah, what? Hold on. Okay, that I missed.

[NoiseHERO]

edit: WOW ninja posted 4 times

I assuming it'll be in at LEAST by official release. Either that or AFTER some point in full release, because it was obvious they were developing them (they even have 7 photon arts laid out for each of them in the data) and just felt obligated to confirm that they were when a fan brought it up.

Well it's not on their list of things they said would be in the official release at least...

"There will be 8 types of weapon for the official release, but more will appear later on. During the presentation someone shouted for Double Sabers, and Sakai responded that they’ll put them in. In addition, expect to see the Knuckle weapon category." -bumped

Yeah I'm assuming AFTER official release... not ON it.

[kyuuketsuki]

They have already said when they showed off Launcher / Talis / Partisan for the first time these and the previously available weapons would be the only ones currently planned to be available at release.
What? When was this said? I also missed that.

[NoiseHERO]

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, so just to clarify, it'll be AFTER official release...

That'd probably be months from now. ;o;

[Vashyron]

http://bumped.org/psublog/what-new-weapons-are-in-store-for-phantasy-star-online-2-beta-test/


In the closed beta test, each class got a new weapon type, so there’s 8 for now. More weapon categories will be added in an update after the official game comes out.

Edit: Lol, Ninja. Ninja.

[Enforcer MKV]

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, so just to clarify, it'll be AFTER official release...

That'd probably be months from now. ;o;

Well, at least we'll get it eventually. Hey, who knows, if we get the client a few months later maybe they have put everything that the Japanese got during the gap in, I mean, that'd make sense for keeping us close to the same time table..

...Right? RIGHT!?

[kyuuketsuki]

In the closed beta test, each class got a new weapon type, so there’s 8 for now. More weapon categories will be added in an update after the official game comes out.
Of course that could just be PSU Blogs wording I guess.
Yeah... that could be taken either way. It seems to me that could actually be meaning more weapon types will be added at release. Would have to see his source for that and get a good translation to be sure.

[Vashyron]

Yeah... that could be taken either way. It seems to me that could actually be meaning more weapon types will be added at release. Would have to see his source for that and get a good translation to be sure.

Actually, don't think it could be a wording issue, I actually missed them repeating it today with the new Official Double Saber and Knuckles to be released Info.

Seems pretty sure.

[kyuuketsuki]

Actually, don't think it could be a wording issue, I actually missed them repeating it today with the new Official Double Saber and Knuckles to be released info.
Now I'm confused. @_@ I thought they were only mentioned off-hand when some people in the audience yelled out about them. They also specifically said they wouldn't be in the game at release?

[Enforcer MKV]

Now I'm confused. @_@ I thought they were only mentioned off-hand when some people in the audience yelled out about them. They also specifically said they wouldn't be in the game at release?

they offhandedly said with certainty: uh, yeah, we're adding Double sabers and knuckles after release?

......

okay, now I'm confusing myself. @.@

[Rath-Kun]

During the presentation someone shouted for Double Sabers, and Sakai responded that they’ll put them in. In addition, expect to see the Knuckle weapon category.

Is what is posted on the PSO blog.

[PSO Addict]

You guys are intense about your knuckles. Clearly you should switch to forces. Though I must say, when the Talis gameplay was announced, I was very surprised so hopefully wands will have a nice new gimick to them as well. But I'm looking for more spells more so than weapon types at this point. Freezies will love that shiny ice staff.

[Cayenne]

SEGA will implement the standard PSO weapons with a few PSU MINIMUM. It's common sense and I bet SEGA got so many request for more weapons.

I'm still waiting for them Slicers...

[Rath-Kun]

Can't forget that ice gunblade.

My force may have to be one of my mains.. dem rappy cards.


Videos too blurry. Is there a Chao on a stick yet?

That would be an amazing return of an item. Used it on my FOmar on PSO. The Shifta/Deband radius increase was very handy. Along with my Resta shield <3 Man I miss those items.

[NoiseHERO]

SEGA will implement the standard PSO weapons with a few PSU MINIMUM. It's common sense and I bet SEGA got so many request for more weapons.

I'm still waiting for them Slicers...

PSO and PSU mostly had the same weapons though... o_O

Stop puttin' down PSU when I'm not lookin' I'LL HURT YOU CAYENNE!!

Also PSZ slicers > ALL other slicers.

[Spellbinder]

Regarding the whole knuckles and double sabers thing.

I didn't immediately catch right away when he mentioned knuckles, but he was talking about things they're working on, or know for sure they're going to add in, and when he mentioned knuckles everyone started murmuring excitedly.

I think a few minutes later (memory's a bit fuzzy), he asked the crowd "what weapons would you like to see implemented?" or something along those lines, and when everyone started yelling out different weapons, one guy said "double sabers" really loud, and they picked up on it and said they were putting them in, prompting lots of applause.

[WBMike]

http://ameblo.jp/sega-psblog/entry-11193217819.html

新武器は各クラスに1つづつあり、これで正式サービス時に使用できる武器カテゴリーはすべて揃うことになり 、全部で8種となります。
...
今後のアップデートによって、さらに武器カテゴリーも増えていく予定ですので、そちらもまた楽しみにしてい てください。

So where does the Double Saber and Knuckle fit into all this? Well in the second part of the briefing it was mentioned in a comment that they would add those categories. Double Sabers and Knuckles were not shown in any of the trailers and videos. They are definitely not going to be in the OBT but certainly you should expect to see them in some update after the game comes out. But of course they can still change their minds during all this, but for now don't expect them in the OBT.

http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/03/120315b.html Weapon Category Schedule

http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/04/120412b.html More weapon categories in an update after official release.

EDIT: During the 2nd part, Kimura (http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/05/120504b.html) mentioned that the antagonist character is using Knuckles in the story quest.
EDIT 2:

「正式サービスの開始時は、ガンスラッシュ、ソード、ワイヤードランス、アサルトライフル、ロッド、パルチ ザン、ランチャー、タリスの8種類からスタートしますが、近いうちに種類を増やしていく予定で す」（酒井 (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201205/03014235.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Though they will start off with 8 weapon categories, you guys will get your other weapon categories really soon. It doesn't look like you'll have to wait too long.

[Magus_84]

http://ameblo.jp/sega-psblog/entry-11193217819.html

新武器は各クラスに1つづつあり、これで正式サービス時に使用できる武器カテゴリーはすべて揃うことになり 、全部で8種となります。
...
今後のアップデートによって、さらに武器カテゴリーも増えていく予定ですので、そちらもまた楽しみにしてい てください。

So where does the Double Saber and Knuckle fit into all this? Well in the second part of the briefing it was mentioned in a comment that they would add those categories. Double Sabers and Knuckles were not shown in any of the trailers and videos. They are definitely not going to be in the OBT but certainly you should expect to see them in some update after the game comes out. But of course they can still change their minds during all this, but for now don't expect them in the OBT.

http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/03/120315b.html Weapon Category Schedule

http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/04/120412b.html More weapon categories in an update after official release.

EDIT: During the 2nd part, Kimura (http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/05/120504b.html) mentioned that the antagonist character is using Knuckles in the story quest.
EDIT 2:

「正式サービスの開始時は、ガンスラッシュ、ソード、ワイヤードランス、アサルトライフル、ロッド、パルチ ザン、ランチャー、タリスの8種類からスタートしますが、近いうちに種類を増やしていく予定で す」（酒井 (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201205/03014235.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Though they will start off with 8 weapon categories, you guys will get your other weapon categories really soon. It doesn't look like you'll have to wait too long.

Anything about Twin Handguns or Mechguns? I saw a link to "PSO weapon types", but I wasn't sure if that was for the older versions of PSO or not.

[Vashyron]

[/URL]EDIT: During the 2nd part, [URL="http://www.g-heaven.net/topics/2012/05/120504b.html"]Kimura (http://ameblo.jp/sega-psblog/entry-11193217819.html) mentioned that the antagonist character is using Knuckles in the story quest.


Huh, I did notice he was using something resembling Knuckles, but I just passed it off as possible Wired Lances.

[PSO Addict]

I was thinking they looked rather knuckly while I was watching it.

[Rath-Kun]

Look at dem knuckles GIRL!

[JC10001]

I'm surprised they are releasing without shotguns. Those have always been a ranger's bread and butter.

[Brimcon]

I'm surprised they are releasing without shotguns. Those have always been a ranger's bread and butter.

Unfortunately, they may have rolled Shotguns into the Assualt Rifle [ALA a PA] and Launchers [Which has rares based off of Shot and Spread] So.. we might not actually see them.

[PSO Addict]

The old shotgun mechanic from PSO wouldn't fit into the new third person shooter format of PSO2. I think that's one of the main reasons they won't be returning.

[Vashyron]

So we are to expect on getting new weapon types really soon huh?

I'm getting a vibe that this is potentially planned to get you to spend AC.

Example. Level a Hunter to 40 that specializes into Sword Gear > Double Sabers come out a Month after release or so > New Skill tree added for it where the Double Saber Gear lies > ....Erm.


Though I guess this "issue" lies with any potential future Skill Tree updates.

[Rath-Kun]

Didn't think about that.

Wonder if they'll give out free skill tree resets like WoW does when they have big updates.

[PSO Addict]

They could group the weapon classes into sets of two such as ranking wired lance also increases knuckles... That would easily bring in new weapons without having to change the skill tree much at all.

[PSO Addict]

Actually... I have the small icon sheet open... and right next to the "gears" there are three empty spaces before the ranger skills... That may have to do with the gears for the planned unreleased weapons?

[Vashyron]

Actually... I have the small icon sheet open... and right next to the "gears" there are three empty spaces before the ranger skills... That may have to do with the gears for the planned unreleased weapons?

Sounds about right.

Those would be...
[spoiler-box]Knuckles, Double Sabers and Twin Daggers Gears.[/spoiler-box]