The Concept of a PSOW Team

[Zaix]

This idea was brought up in another thread but never really solved. How does the idea of one massive PSOW guild/clan/team/whatever, known as teams in PSO2, sound to the general PSOW members? Is it even worth thinking about? This thread is to determine whether its even wanted or not. Feel free to discuss pros and cons or better ideas.

The current concept mentioned earlier was something like:
If it grew to big, it would likely wind up being split amongst multiple teams that would all have the same purposes. There would probably be some group that manages all the teams.

The next steps, if its liked enough, would be deciding its ultimate structure, deciding leaders, and deciding names.

[Rizen]

I've never been a fan of big guilds/clans/group/teams. Majority of the time they erupt in drama causing people to leave and eventually making their own which isn't so bad, but they bring with them a lot of hostility towards the one they left which breeds more and so and and so on.

I personally would like to see independent teams working together to form a larger friendly community. That way those with different interest can stay together, but not isolate themselves from the community completely.

[Gama]

you can make guilds if you want but choose the leaders wisely... or drama will occur.

[Zaix]

you can make guilds if you want but choose the leaders wisely... or drama will occur.

I'm well aware of that. Seeing that its a community team, I would say the community chooses the leaders...then again the community doesn't always know best.

"Make PSU Easier!"

[AlMcFly]

PSO worked in the past really without hardcore guild mechanics. We ended up informally choosing those people we partied with all the time without guild options. I understand the appeal but it wouldn't really be necessary I think as in the past, almost everyone knew everybody anyway and there weren't really shortages of people to do runs.

I'll join probably if it happens but I voted no as it really isn't necessary in a game like this I think.

[Gama]

if one guild could have all the en players i'd like it. but if its going to go separate ways it wont go so well i think.

[ttdestroy]

I don't foresee a future where a large team of EN players is a good thing. I think a loose coalition of teams is better suited for a game like this.

[Ezodagrom]

I could be wrong, but I think there's an 100 player limit in teams.

[Gama]

hm you're probably right.

[ZIE creations]

I think it would be a cool idea to have everyone in one team IF drama doesn't roll around >.> Separate teams only divide players more but I guess friend systems could delude that so it really doesn't matter ^.^

[Arika]

If it is gonna be PSOW team, then leader should be someone who really work as center of PSOW such as Ryna though.

[AlMcFly]

If it is gonna be PSOW team, then leader should be someone who really work as center of PSOW such as Ryna though.

Does Ryna even play? Mysteries...

[Ezodagrom]

Looks like teams do have a limit of 100 players:

The game also lets you have teams (or guilds, if you prefer) of up to 100 players.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/01/summon-your-friends-characters-as-ai-partners-in-phantasy-star-online-2/

[Gama]

maybe its best just to exchange cards with everyone xD

[Ezodagrom]

maybe its best just to exchange cards with everyone xD
Well, one good thing about teams is the team chat, but I guess either smaller independent teams or no teams at all will have to do.

[earthsenshi]

A single group is good, but a loose group of independent teams is great as well. (and there wouldn't be enough slots if there were just 1)

I wouldn't want this to turn into a hate match or anything, but what if we had a few PSOW teams based on time zone or class? "Time zone" more in the sense that people who play during certain times would be on a team together, so there would be more of a chance for them to party. By class, I mean more of a support group if a less experienced player needs quick advice.
Or, just have a few groups, A,B,C etc and people can join whatever one they want. Perhaps give them names, like after the tech elements or previous game bosses.

I agree that we should have some sort of structure, but think it's best that no one is really in charge and the group monitors themselves. If the need arises, they can choose a temporary representative(s) or leader(s), but that only lasts until the situation is resolved.

Or, we could just go with the flow and see what happens.

[AlMcFly]

A single group is good, but a loose group of independent teams is great as well. (and there wouldn't be enough slots if there were just 1)

I wouldn't want this to turn into a hate match or anything, but what if we had a few PSOW teams based on time zone or class? "Time zone" more in the sense that people who play during certain times would be on a team together, so there would be more of a chance for them to party. By class, I mean more of a support group if a less experienced player needs quick advice.
Or, just have a few groups, A,B,C etc and people can join whatever one they want. Perhaps give them names, like after the tech elements or previous game bosses.

I agree that we should have some sort of structure, but think it's best that no one is really in charge and the group monitors themselves. If the need arises, they can choose a temporary representative(s) or leader(s), but that only lasts until the situation is resolved.

Or, we could just go with the flow and see what happens.

Teams:

PSO-West
PSO-East
PSO-Central
PSO-Mountain
PSO-Hawaii
etc.

Reminds me of the Olympics or something haha

[ZIE creations]

A single group is good, but a loose group of independent teams is great as well. (and there wouldn't be enough slots if there were just 1)

I wouldn't want this to turn into a hate match or anything, but what if we had a few PSOW teams based on time zone or class? "Time zone" more in the sense that people who play during certain times would be on a team together, so there would be more of a chance for them to party. By class, I mean more of a support group if a less experienced player needs quick advice.
Or, just have a few groups, A,B,C etc and people can join whatever one they want. Perhaps give them names, like after the tech elements or previous game bosses.

I agree that we should have some sort of structure, but think it's best that no one is really in charge and the group monitors themselves. If the need arises, they can choose a temporary representative(s) or leader(s), but that only lasts until the situation is resolved.

Or, we could just go with the flow and see what happens.

I rather like the separate group ideas after reading this... how do i change my vote >.>

I would like to see a forum sticky with different groups with "specifications" or something of the sort. You know, like one group is the more supportive, this one the social crowd, this one is the insane hunters, and so on.

Also element names sounds cool lol
ice, fire, earth, lightning, light, dark... I'd be in ice cuz I'm cool C.C ...



...no I'm not Q.Q

[earthsenshi]

I rather like the separate group ideas after reading this... how do i change my vote >.>

I would like to see a forum sticky with different groups with "specifications" or something of the sort. You know, like one group is the more supportive, this one the social crowd, this one is the insane hunters, and so on.

Also element names sounds cool lol
ice, fire, earth, lightning, light, dark... I'd be in ice cuz I'm cool C.C ...



...no I'm not Q.Q

Regardless of what format we go with, I believe a sticky list with the team/teams info will be a big help.

[youcantcatchtheblue]

We should split up into 3 teams:

PSOW-Team A
PSOW-Team K
PSOW-Team B

^^

And if we decide to do one big team for everybody: PSO48

[Crysteon]

We should split up into 3 teams:

PSOW-Team A
PSOW-Team K
PSOW-Team B

^^

And if we decide to do one big team for everybody: PSO48

I have this feeling we will end up arguing this way for more suitable names:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viHpbAQG5eQ

PSOW-Team Alpha Super Duper Awesome Cool Wolf Squad...seems legit.

[ZIE creations]

I have this feeling we will end up arguing this way for more suitable names:

Shrek 3 Scene - Team Alpha Super Awesome Cool Dynamite Wolf Squadron - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viHpbAQG5eQ)

PSOW-Team Alpha Super Duper Awesome Cool Wolf Squad...seems legit.

If worst comes to worst we can have all the suggestions put into a hat and shipped to the president for random selections!!!! PSO2 TEAM NAMING IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!

[Crysteon]

Honestly, the teams' names are the least of my worries. It is more of my concern about who will be the members of them /l33tnerveON .

[TecherRamen]

We already are a community, we are like an internet village, where the governing body is the moderators of the forums. Each clan is kind of like a family in the village, they hang out and intermingle as if part of a common house hold. Some times clans party together, and its kind of like having a barbaque.

I think trying to put people into groups( teams based on time zone or whatever) is a bad idea. We are not going to work and having the different teams seems akin to shifts at work (night shift, day shift, mid shift, etc).

What I think would be a good idea to coalesce the community is to have a dedicated PSO-W PSO2 bulletin board for meet ups and suggest to every clan or individual member of the community to post there whenever they log on and start to play. That way others logging on could have an idea of the english population they could expect. Like wise it would be a good way to coordinate with others for future play times.

I know such a forum already exists but it allows posting for other games as well. I think we need something seperate and dedicated. PSO2 is different from the other games is that you need to do a little work to get it. So anyone not willing to atleast lurk in the community will have a harder time gaining access to the game.

In short:

We already have a team, putting a box around it is maybe not the best thing to do. We should all attempt to communicate with one another about the times when we will play.

[BIG OLAF]

It would lead to in-fighting due to things such as deciding who the leaders will be, etc.

Not a good idea.

[Gardios]

Unless there are specific benefits to teams I don't think there's even a need to make one - we basically have an entire block for ourselves... If there's anything you needs help with, you could ask in the lobby and most likely get an answer right away.

Not to mention that a team chat would be really chaotic with so many members...

[Peejay]

We should split up into 3 teams:

PSOW-Team A
PSOW-Team K
PSOW-Team B

^^

And if we decide to do one big team for everybody: PSO48

I don't want to be associated with that. You know one of the members was fired for banging a creepy otaku fan, right? Considering they're supposed to have a vow of celibacy while being in it, and the other time it happened, the member went straight to porn...

That's just like asking for a player rift.

[NoiseHERO]

Seriously,

Why would it ever be a good idea to become one giant brainless cult that obsesses over each other?

Normal guilds can be annoying as it is...

The power, political and e-drama issues of multiple guilds merged together?? ugggghghhhhh. I'd cringe so hard my face would get suck, having to see that everywhere. e_e

Infighting is one thing, but big "superior" guilds in general are fucking annoying... why make them even BIGGER???

[AlMcFly]

Lol, so none of you have heard of the Robber's Cave Experiments? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realistic_conflict_theory

[Peejay]

Lol, so none of you have heard of the Robber's Cave Experiments? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realistic_conflict_theory

Considering the game isn't competitive yet, there's no real grounds to that, right?

[Rhypht]

Probably best to have a few larger teams that all kinda know each other and still operate as a community. One huge team, too much to go wrong.

[AlMcFly]

Considering the game isn't competitive yet, there's no real grounds to that, right?

You do know that the implications of the later experiments prove subjects perceive competition-inducing resources even when none exist right?

[FenixStryk]

I'm pretty sure PSO-W has more than 100 users on PSO2 Ship 2. While a big PSO-W Team would be nice, it's not feasible with the Team Member limit.

It's worth a shot, though. Just make sure Rock Eastwood isn't the Team Leader. :wacko:

[Jk_Alentejano]

How it is possible to do one huge team if the max players per team is only 100, we are more for sure. I do like guilds\teams cause it promotes camaraderie, knowing more people and more fun gaming, but in this case maybe it's better to split the teams, and the time-zone criteria sounds not too bad! I would like to belong to a PSOW team but almost all people would have to come to common grounds or to watch soap operas every other day no please.
That being say let the discussion continue, and let's hope that some understandings come out of it. ;)

[Enforcer MKV]

You do know that the implications of the later experiments prove subjects perceive competition-inducing resources even when none exist right?

Like rares and meseta and such. I know that there was a certain group in PSU that only allowed you to join if you had over a certain amount of meseta. That bred a sort of elitist attitude, if I recall correctly. Not pleasant at all.

I don't know about a team, though. It seems like there'd be too many problems. Not to mention too many people.

Multiple teams? Maybe, but the potential for problems is still there. Though, the possibility of friction always rises as more members are added, so hey, the risk might be worth it.

[Arika]

Does Ryna even play? Mysteries...

I have his card on both Jp and English PSU anyway. seem not playing much but.. yes count as plays.

It feel wrong imo, if the name of group is PSOW, but the leader is someone random inside PSOW.

Whatever though, as most people says I don't think it is good to make one with limit 100 people. Should just let each group of people team with whoever close to them.

[NoiseHERO]

I'm pretty sure PSO-W has more than 100 users on PSO2 Ship 2. While a big PSO-W Team would be nice, it's not feasible with the Team Member limit.

It's worth a shot, though. Just make sure Rock Eastwood isn't the Team Leader. :wacko:

I hate leading!

I hate following!

and I hate all of you!

YOU COULDN'T GET ME TO LEAD IF YOU BEGGED! I would probably destroy the whole thing on purpose!

My first act of causing massive drama...

E-DATING THE ONLY GIRL IN THE GUILD!

And then while the jealously boils everyone up I'll finish it off by saying she was a dude. AND DIRECT ALL THAT DRAMA TO HER! THEN IT'LL BE A FIGHT BETWEEN THE PEOPLE THAT DEFEND HER, THE DISGUSTED PEOPLE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT STILL WANNA HOOK UP WITH HER!

And that'll be the beginning of the death of PSOW.

[BIG OLAF]

Someone get the muzzle. Rock's lost it again.

[Coatl]

We should split up into 3 teams:

PSOW-Team A
PSOW-Team K
PSOW-Team B

^^

And if we decide to do one big team for everybody: PSO48

Yeah except I'm not joining any guild called PSOW-Team (Alphabet). >_>
Let's get some interesting names thrown around.

[MasterSpark]

Yeah except I'm not joining any guild called PSOW-Team (Alphabet). >_>
Let's get some interesting names thrown around.

PSOW-Team Touhou Project. It's obligatory.

Alternatively: PSOW-Team Shanghai Alice. Same thing, basically.

[earthsenshi]

I'd be nice to do names that are game related. I suggested the tech elements, like zonde, foie, barta, etc or bosses/creatures from previous games before. (haha, team Dark Falz) Or, we could go with PSO mag names.
I'm just throwing ideas out there......

[soulpimpwizzurd]

teams should be able to form alliances with other teams.

that'd be cool

[Gama]

alliances? what? why? are teams going to start killing each other now? that we need alliances?

[Ranji]

I've been a member of a gaming community (ie clan) for 7 years now. I'm in no way part of the leadership structure, but what we've had has worked wonders so far. Granted we're in a decline as all the clans nowadays are all teenagers stuck in Call of Doodieheads or Bastardfield 3, but we've never had any dramas or anything to speak of.

That said, I do think that a slightly looser approach may be what the doctor ordered for now. Maybe if the need truly arises, we can have a coalition of numerous teams, but as the game stands now, it isn't really a neccessity.

We probably should try to get a vent or teamspeak up and running though. Running through gameservers, we'd be looking at either $13 a month for a 50, or $22 for a 100 slot server. Personally, if it was decided to go forward with it, a 50 would likely suffice.

[soulpimpwizzurd]

alliances? what? why? are teams going to start killing each other now? that we need alliances?

nah man i guess to put it better teams should be bale to band together or something.

not necessarily alliances, perhaps partnerships.

[Ezodagrom]

Is there even any practical reason to be in a team? Such as getting special items depending on how awesome your team does overall?
The only pratical reason I can think of for a team is the team chat.

[Porkmaster]

I already took all the hardcore people for my team, sorry guys!

[ZIE creations]

I already took all the hardcore people for my team, sorry guys!

You don't have me, I don't even like pork >.>

For the chat can't we all just set up smaller free chats like skype and the such? no need for giant servers for chats and integration...