The Official PSE Burst Thread

[Rhypht]

I played with 4 different parties last night, and each one of them was focusing on grinding the multiparty area for EXP and drops. I noticed that in every party, we were all slightly confused about certain aspects of PSEs and PSE Bursts. So I figured I'd make a thread where we could discuss them and ask questions if needed.

First, does anyone know if those strange boxes that appear at the top of the screen relate at all to PSEs? The same question goes for certain things that happen to your character. I've had the sides of my screen go red and hear a heartbeat, the sides of the screen get stretched out like I was flying really fast or something, I've had a purple cloud puff out of my character and my mag at the same time, and a few other things along those lines. As far as the boxes, I think we've all seen the same two; the one with the circle that is sucking in little white particles, and the one that looks like EQ bars. I have seen the EQ bars with red and green caps on them. I had noticed that both of the box graphics that appear at the top of the screen seem to have the letters 'PSE' in a rotating circle in the bottom right corner.

Also, how is a PSE Burst actually triggered? We stood in one area for a while last night while enemies kept spawning, and I was almost certain that we would eventually get one. But, it never happened. I know that sometimes, a timer will come up before a possible burst, but other times it's just started right into it without a preemptive timer. We were also confused on the term 'cross burst' but assumed it had something to do with multiple parties getting PSE bursts at the same time. Personally, I have only experienced two or three bursts in my playtime, and none of them have been over a minute.

There was a thread around where similar things were discussed, but so far all I have heard about PSEs and things of this nature has been complete speculation or mistranslated information from an unreliable source, so I am just looking to get good information on what they actually are, and to have other players be able to look here to fully understand them as well.

[Rizen]

Thank you for making this topic. Hopefully people will take it more seriously, and not let it get drowned out.

I'm just going to toss my theories I posted in another topic here.



I am not 100% sure, but I have started to notice some trends with the radar.

For example, when the radar pops up and you see blue and red dots. The red dots represent PSE enemies that are close to you. The blue dot seems to be you. If you kill those enemies, your PSE will go up.

I'm not sure about the bar and the other one, but I will go ahead and make an educated guess. I assume that the bar represents how many PSE enemies are in the area, and the other one that looks like a vertex represent more enemies coming into the map.

PSE Burst happens when you get a PSE to lv 8. Cross Burst seems to happen when you get 2 PSE over lv 8, and it continues as you continue to get more or maintain PSEs over lv 8.

Again, these are just guesses. I will do more testing tonight.

Also, I have a stream of my PSE Burst and Cross Burst experiences that might be useful for researching.
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/rizenforce/b/322592236

Highlight video:
First Cross Burst happens at the beginning of the video which lags for about 3 minutes. Second one happens around the 30 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKG3BZOYTqA

[Priest]

Edit: Pretty much what he said ^

I believe those pictures at the top are showing that photon drop is high, and enemies will drop more of them. As they drop them, your PSE levels up and appears next to your map. When one of those hit lvl 8 (such as meseta drop rate) you get a burst. If another hits level 8, you get cross burst, another minute, so on. If after hundreds of hours of playtime I am wrong I would be surprised.

[Rhypht]

Yes, I have also noticed that in the chat, as enemies die and sometimes release that pillar of light that shines back down on you, the system chat will say something about PSE lvl.___

usually 1-5, haven't seen it much higher than that.

[Fusioneko]

Which means you're doing it all wrong! I have no idea, if you're or not. But a tip of advice would be to say.. Code: Protection, both of them, complete, and do. The Crystal one is supposedly influences the photon levels greatly, which has been proven, because after three of them. We've always landed a PSE soon after, and many creatures produce a photon burst of some kind.

[Rizen]

Which means you're doing it all wrong! I have no idea, if you're or not. But a tip of advice would be to say.. Code: Protection, both of them, complete, and do. The Crystal one is supposedly influences the photon levels greatly, which has been proven, because after three of them. We've always landed a PSE soon after, and many creatures produce a photon burst of some kind.
This is true. I have noticed getting more PSE burst after crystals appear.

[Rhypht]

This is true. I have noticed getting more PSE burst after crystals appear.

Problem is, I almost never get that code. I think I've got it maybe twice ever.

[Aeris]

Edit: Pretty much what he said ^

I believe those pictures at the top are showing that photon drop is high, and enemies will drop more of them. As they drop them, your PSE levels up and appears next to your map. When one of those hit lvl 8 (such as meseta drop rate) you get a burst. If another hits level 8, you get cross burst, another minute, so on. If after hundreds of hours of playtime I am wrong I would be surprised.

Cross burst only occurs when there is another party in the area in which happens if they are near you in multiparty areas, also for the boost rate, it hits level 8 starting a chance to get PSE burst, get that same color again then its 9 (max level) for a PSE burst for a single party, maxing out the others in a PSE burst adds 1 min to the time, getting more time requires you to get the same color of light that is maxed out for that increased rate.

[Priest]

Yes, I'd say crystals is the rarest mission I see, but only once did it not give PSE burst and I think that's because we didn't kill one monster after. Another hint, as soon as PSE burst is counting, have you all PB blast, almost always gives cross burst.

[Fusioneko]

Yeah we did a 8 way pb just a bit ago, it was a 3-4 minute cross brust instantly.

[HectorSirdam]

I always thought the PSE burst numbers were tied to the (for lack of the proper term) sector number (e.g. D-5, A-4, C-2 etc.) you trigger them while in a playfield. I noticed that I'd get to PSE level 5-7 in a given type then enemies would stop spawning so I'd move, kill a few and see the same PSE type level up again but this time it's lower.

This could all be a coincidence and totally incorrect hypothesizing though.

[dijicaek]

I noticed that I'd get to PSE level 5-7 in a given type then enemies would stop spawning so I'd move, kill a few and see the same PSE type level up again but this time it's lower.

I think that's due to the PSE level decreasing slowly between the time enemies "drop" their flashes of light.

[soulpimpwizzurd]

@rizen are you sure about those blue and red dots? btw by red do you actually mean a purplish pinkish color? and are they not dots so much as triangles?

if what i say above is correct, i'm pretty sure you're just looking at target enemies for emergency codes. i don't think i've ever seen distinctly red dots on my zoomed in radar. circles tend to be players as well. no dots, only triangles.

this is a great thread regardless, and if we ever get solid info on how pse bursts work exactly i'd hope that -everybody- reads through this thread's opening post which i hope will be edited to conglomerate all current and reliable information on them.

[mhjc]

I think that's due to the PSE level decreasing slowly between the time enemies "drop" their flashes of light.

Levels dont decrease, they vanish entirely. More than likely, you got lv5 or something, it went dead; then you got the PSEs prepped for you, then hit lv2 again.

[PrinceBrightstar]

What about the trigger for the "One More" where the timer has run out and it starts up again? How does that activate?

[Rhypht]

hmm, I'm gonna have to try a few things out with some friends and see if I can get a good reading on how to specifically trigger one. It'd go a long way for those of us who like to run multiplay areas for EXP after we've done all of the missions that we can.

[Rizen]

I am planning on doing some PSE research this weekend. If you are interested, leave me a PM.

[ClothoBuer]

I remember someone mentioning the screen pulsing/shaking effects were related to a Code being nearby, something I can neither confirm or deny because in the times I've had my screen suddenly pulse, usually nothing comes of it. However, a lot of the theories in here do seem to make sense on the triggers for PSE. I'm going to need to pay more attention to the various burst colors I get and see how they affect the PSE levels, and how the boxes correlate into things.

What I suspect is the case on the boxes, based on what people are saying here, is that each one is a PSE effect, and their colors relate to a specific type of PSE. For example, you get the Spectrum PSE box with red bars, my guess would be that your next photon drop from an enemy that you get of that color will give a larger amount than normal. Granted, I don't have anything to really verify this, and it's nothing more than a hypothesis, but it does make sense when you think about it in this way.

[xBladeM6x]

I believe this is appropriate!

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab39/xBladeM6x/Untitled-10.jpg

[Ken_the_turtle]

The same question goes for certain things that happen to your character. I've had the sides of my screen go red and hear a heartbeat

This happens when your health drops below 50%

[Derriere]

The same question goes for certain things that happen to your character. I've had the sides of my screen go red and hear a heartbeat, the sides of the screen get stretched out like I was flying really fast or something, I've had a purple cloud puff out of my character and my mag at the same time, and a few other things along those lines.

Assuming you're not talking about the low health warning when you speak of the red aura, I know what you're talking about.
I might be wrong about this, since I only have my experiences to go off of...
but when you see the red and black tendrils flash around your screen and you hear the heartbeat, it seems to me that it means Ragne/Hollow Body Ragne will appear if you look around enough. I've seen it several times, but the last two or three times we intentionally searched around and each time we found Ragne.

I've seen one or two other aura type effects like this, like one where the edges of the screen go all rainbow-like and bright and then fades, but I've no idea what that could indicate yet.

Btw, the purple/black puff that your mag spews out is actually a mag skill, assuming you have Lepus (the Tech mag), it increases your PP recharge time for a few seconds, just like the Tech mag's first PB. It's n ot related to PSE. :D

[PhannyBandit]

Well I have had horrendous luck with PSEs till today. Was running around and got an Emergency Code: Protection to defend those crystals. After we beat that there were yellow photon particles floating everywhere and every single kill we got after that leveld up our PSE. Then we went on to get a 10+ minute burst.

[Peejay]

I remember someone mentioning the screen pulsing/shaking effects were related to a Code being nearby, something I can neither confirm or deny because in the times I've had my screen suddenly pulse, usually nothing comes of it. However, a lot of the theories in here do seem to make sense on the triggers for PSE. I'm going to need to pay more attention to the various burst colors I get and see how they affect the PSE levels, and how the boxes correlate into things.

What I suspect is the case on the boxes, based on what people are saying here, is that each one is a PSE effect, and their colors relate to a specific type of PSE. For example, you get the Spectrum PSE box with red bars, my guess would be that your next photon drop from an enemy that you get of that color will give a larger amount than normal. Granted, I don't have anything to really verify this, and it's nothing more than a hypothesis, but it does make sense when you think about it in this way.

Like with the heartbeat sound and the dark outline on the edge of your screen? It usually indicates a Code: Avoid, Code: Duel, or Code: Destruction is somewhere on the map. Not necessarily nearby.

I have no clue what the shimmering outline is.

And this is what I usually notice. After each throbbing screen, I go and scour the map to find me some baddies to murder, and voila, I get a Ragne.

And then half the time a Ragne jumps out of THAT Ragne. Fuuuuuuuun.

[Kazzi]

I personally found that you're far more likely to get a PSE burst where you're tagging along with another party, in comparison to when you're fighting with your own. I rarely get a PSE burst when I'm not with other parties.

Take this video for example (http://www.livestream.com/imdoingitwrong/video?clipId=flv_53247f05-e37d-4eda-ac77-0b19fd6b54b5&time=5220). There were 3 parties there, and the more parties the longer the PSE last and the more that went off.

[Ogni-XR21]

My take is that there are 3 different kinds of PSE's, blue pillar, red pillar and yellow pillar. If you're lucky you kill enough enemies that make the level rise to 9 you get a burst. If during that burst you trigger enough pillars of a different color to get to lvl 9 with that you get a cross burst. If you have enough of the same color the burst get's extended.

A lot of it has to do with luck and "linking" the pillars of light so you don't run out...

[eharima]

I speculate cross burst is when 2 or more party's in a MP area are both in pse burst then meet each other on the map causing cross burst ...