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jooozek
Jul 7, 2012, 08:43 AM
Was thinking I'll sink like 30 grinders but instead it went like this:


2012-07-07T15:37:22 665 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+1 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:22 666 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:26 667 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+2 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:26 668 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:30 669 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+3 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:30 670 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:35 671 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+4 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:35 672 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:38 673 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+5 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:38 674 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:42 675 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+6 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:42 676 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:46 677 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+7 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:46 678 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:50 679 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+8 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:50 680 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:54 681 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+9 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:54 682 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)
2012-07-07T15:37:58 683 [Grind(success) +1] 10064690 jooozek アルバレーザー+10 attr:NONE(0)
2012-07-07T15:37:58 684 :Consume 10064690 jooozek グラインダー Num(1)

Whoa?

BIG OLAF
Jul 7, 2012, 08:44 AM
My luck grinding non-rares has been excellent. They almost always go to +10 straight on through.

My luck with grinding rares has been mediocre, but not horrible.

Phantasma
Jul 7, 2012, 08:47 AM
non-rares are no problem, and cheap to fort.
Rares are like 60% success for me
...I'll get back to you about this 9-star wired lance though...

Gama
Jul 7, 2012, 08:53 AM
the best grind i got is that broom rod 10/10 aside from thaqt all rares well <-<

non rares i got some 10/10 easy too.

talis +4 and it was warlike...

sugarFO
Jul 7, 2012, 09:05 AM
My Stella Twinkle is stuck at +8 after initially going to +7 straight through the first time, then I tried again and went down to +4, tried again and got to +8. I'm not messing with it anymore lol.

Gardios
Jul 7, 2012, 09:28 AM
Still waiting for that Mahou Shoujo rod to drop before I start grinding. Doesn't seem worth it to grind normal items. >:

Kanore
Jul 7, 2012, 10:09 AM
Ha, I have a wonderful story.

I bought a decent 130,000 Zanba with 3 good Abilities.

Spent 30,000 getting it to +9.

A day later I was feeling a little brave so I decided to go for +10.

Long story short, I've spent probably nearly 190,000 now trying to get it back to +9, but I'm too scared to grind now. It was back down to +4 at one point, but I think I'll keep it at +6 because of all I spent.

I hate rare grinding.

IAmSecretSpy
Jul 7, 2012, 10:47 AM
Ohh you hate grinding ehh?
Try Affixing then come back and tell me how much you love grinding haha

Zyrusticae
Jul 7, 2012, 11:01 AM
I've never tried grinding anything more than 5 stars in my life. So far, it's been a piece o' cake.

And from all the threads on this subject I've been seeing, I am more than happy to continue doing as I am.

Randomness
Jul 7, 2012, 11:12 AM
I've never tried grinding anything more than 5 stars in my life. So far, it's been a piece o' cake.

And from all the threads on this subject I've been seeing, I am more than happy to continue doing as I am.

Meh, take your rares to at least +2 lol. No failure.

mommy_cornelia
Jul 7, 2012, 11:18 AM
Rares: The 2 daylight scar i got (one fire and the another ice) at +10 without failing once. It felt great getting those 2 to +10^^. Didn't try another rares yet

non rares: Never failed to grind armors to +10 till now :3

krophiquon
Jul 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
I am starting to really, really detest item grinding. I got my 8 star launcher up to +7 fairly easily. Then I spent the rest of my grinders and meseta trying to go for +8, only to have my gun drop down to +5. I farmed PSE bursts for a couple hours, sold every single item that dropped. Went back and spent everything I had to get it up to +6. Farmed PSE bursts for a few more hours, sold everything. And I just now spent nearly 100k and about 40 grinders for my gun to drop to +4.

this.
is.
bullshit.

nothing worse than seeing all the shit you just spent the last several hours accumulating go up in smoke. And then for your weapon to actually DECREASE levels after losing your materials too? I went from +6 down to +4 on one failure. I really can't believe I've spent the last couple hundred thousand meseta on having the grind on my weapon go down 3 levels.

彩音~
Jul 7, 2012, 01:55 PM
I was trying to get my 9* +7 rifle to go +8. Ended up wasting 300 grinders and 800k just to get it back to +7. 2mil meseta poof

The Walrus
Jul 7, 2012, 02:19 PM
I think I'll be happy getting 7*-9* rares up to 6 anything more is just asking for suffering

CJ Johnny
Jul 7, 2012, 02:28 PM
Painless
http://i50.tinypic.com/34y8mj9.jpg

HFlowen
Jul 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
The grind counter is where meseta goes to die. Whenever I get annoyed with grinding though, I just think back on how PSU's grind system worked.

彩音~
Jul 7, 2012, 03:30 PM
Grinding a 9* to +10 is seriously not worth it. 7*-9* all end up with 175% at +10, but if you fail +10 on a 9*, you lose all enhancements on it (if what jp wikis say is true). I couldn't even get my 9* to +8. The chances from +9 to +10 must be like 1%...

Ryock
Jul 7, 2012, 04:21 PM
Rare grinding luck for me has been about 40-60%ish. Non-rares, not a problem. Generally only fail once or twice when grinding to +10.



Grinding a 9* to +10 is seriously not worth it. 7*-9* all end up with 175% at +10, but if you fail +10 on a 9*, you lose all enhancements on it (if what jp wikis say is true). I couldn't even get my 9* to +8. The chances from +9 to +10 must be like 1%...

It was worth it for me.

FenixStryk
Jul 7, 2012, 04:25 PM
I consider myself very lucky.

[SPOILER-BOX]Less than 200 grinders and 400k meseta. I found it as a drop.

http://i.imgur.com/SA6ku.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Ryock
Jul 7, 2012, 04:31 PM
I consider myself very lucky.

[SPOILER-BOX]Less than 200 grinders and 400k meseta. I found it as a drop.

http://i.imgur.com/SA6ku.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

That makes two of us :D

Ueno54
Jul 7, 2012, 04:45 PM
I always have great luck with grinding. Adding/enhancing abilities on the other hand oh god.. Trying to get my poison II up to III is just driving me nuts.

soulpimpwizzurd
Jul 7, 2012, 08:41 PM
Ha, I have a wonderful story.

I bought a decent 130,000 Zanba with 3 good Abilities.

Spent 30,000 getting it to +9.

A day later I was feeling a little brave so I decided to go for +10.

Long story short, I've spent probably nearly 190,000 now trying to get it back to +9, but I'm too scared to grind now. It was back down to +4 at one point, but I think I'll keep it at +6 because of all I spent.

I hate rare grinding.

FLEW TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN AND YOU GOT BURNED

NOW YOU'LL NEVER BE THE SAME

Jungo Torii
Jul 7, 2012, 08:44 PM
I haven't had too much of a problem with grinding...but I haven't really gotten that many rares yet, which seem to be a much bigger problem when grinding.

I've gotten a few +10s, but only up to maybe +5 or +6 on rares before I just stopped for fear of screwing up the weapon.

JeyKama
Jul 7, 2012, 08:47 PM
I always have great luck with grinding. Adding/enhancing abilities on the other hand oh god.. Trying to get my poison II up to III is just driving me nuts.

Next time, try adding a Mutation I into the mix... if you only have Poison on the weapon anyway.

Me, I went through 120 grinders on my Tig Ridol taking it from +3 to +3.

gigawuts
Jul 7, 2012, 09:01 PM
Made a straight line to +8 with my vol scale with zero failures. A few days later I thought I'd buy an upgrade, but realized I can just grind my current weapon up to +10 for the same results.

Three +9's, 350k meseta, and 170 grinders later I arrive back at +8 and call it quits because I only have 50k meseta left and almost certainly cannot afford the failures it would take to get to +8 a fourth time.

I am not fond of chance-based grinding. It is a very poor balancing mechanic. I would have far preferred the original PSO's grinding system, but with similar intended costs because somewhere, some time, someone will spend millions of meseta trying to grind something but just never ever succeed while someone else will get it to +10 without even realizing it was supposed to be difficult. I hate chance-based mechanics. Just make it so it costs a silly amount to get to +10, which would be the average price it costs to get to +10.

eharima
Jul 7, 2012, 09:50 PM
A good business model would have implemented the choice to buy straight items (or at least a decent item enhancing GET only scratch list) for AC .

Ima keep banging on about it until a decent scratch list is made.

Thread full of feels in here bro's.

Kanore
Jul 8, 2012, 12:13 AM
FLEW TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN AND YOU GOT BURNED

NOW YOU'LL NEVER BE THE SAME


that's deep man

Geistritter
Jul 8, 2012, 12:15 AM
I've had fair lucking grinding. It's adding special attributes that's been a god damned nightmare.

kudo
Jul 8, 2012, 12:40 AM
Up til yesterday i ALWAYS got to +10 within about 12-15 grinds, even got a perfect once. Then yesterday i bought a zanba and blew the 60 grinders i had in my inventory on it with it bouncing up to +9 and back to +4-6 a couple times. After using all i had I ended up at +8, Bought 10 more grinders and brought it down to +5.

Waste of 300 ish k. I was at 400 or so saving for the wedding dress too. What a stupid move.

Darki
Jul 8, 2012, 12:55 AM
Got my Red Processor to +10 failing it only once lika a week ago... I feel confident, so after that I tried to grind my Rappy Fan Fan...

Annd now it's +5. Eternally. I' actually spent all the money I got in the past week trying to grind that shit, but after a week seeing it go +5, +6, +5, +4, +5, +6, +5, +6, +5, +4, +5... ad eternum, I just ragequitted. Someday when I get tons of money and no rarz to buy I'll attemp it again, lol.

Yunfa
Jul 8, 2012, 01:31 AM
Ahhhh reading in the thread makes me feel a little better about my 2mill+ down on grinding 7* rares, *sniff*

goldwing
Jul 8, 2012, 02:03 AM
So far iv had good luck. If i feel it wont go higher i stop other than that my daylight scar is plus 10 and my 4 star lance is plus 10 anything else isnt below 5 so yea.

Mokyu
Jul 8, 2012, 02:34 AM
Tried to ability grind and now i will photoshop a troll face to Dodos peeping head.

[spoiler-box]http://i47.tinypic.com/ms0fme.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Chik'Tikka
Jul 8, 2012, 03:19 AM
haven't done any super rare items (i'm talking to you denian gun!) but everything I've attempted to grind went to 10+^_^+ now affixing, that's a whole other matter....

skuld01
Jul 8, 2012, 04:16 AM
got a 8star gunslash and made it to +9 once then keeping brouncing between +4 to +9...(The feeling failing at +9 to +10...)

Then from FUN sketch I got one grinding success rate +5%...and from not-so-long time ago I also got a previous grinding success rate +5%.

Finally, when it reach +8 again, used both +5% at each grind then successes.

The pain. Lost over 1m and over 100grinders

soulpimpwizzurd
Jul 8, 2012, 05:45 AM
got a 8star gunslash and made it to +9 once then keeping brouncing between +4 to +9...(The feeling failing at +9 to +10...)

Then from FUN sketch I got one grinding success rate +5%...and from not-so-long time ago I also got a previous grinding success rate +5%.

Finally, when it reach +8 again, used both +5% at each grind then successes.

The pain. Lost over 1m and over 100grinders

aren't you the bastard that made oodles of meseta from those rare drops?

don't complain you asshole lol

skuld01
Jul 8, 2012, 05:49 AM
aren't you the bastard that made oodles of meseta from those rare drops?

don't complain you asshole lol


wait what? I never sold any of my rare yet.....

and the 8-star gunslash is locked on my character now.

And my character just reached lvl30 and kinda stopped, where are all my rares?

soulpimpwizzurd
Jul 8, 2012, 05:53 AM
wait what? I never sold any of my rare yet.....

and the 8-star gunslash is locked on my character now.

And my character just reached lvl30 and kinda stopped, where all my rares?

oop nvm it's another dude

he got the super strong sword and some rod and made mad meseta. lol

Coatl
Jul 8, 2012, 12:59 PM
Whether I throw 50 grinders or 200 on a weapon, I always have more than I should realistically.
So I don't mind.

Jakosifer
Jul 8, 2012, 01:08 PM
I got a 9* to +10 on the first go this morning. I was shocked. Though generally my luck with grinding only has two or three failures before 10, its my luck with finding rares that is the problem.

mommy_cornelia
Jul 9, 2012, 04:01 PM
Just got my Hyperion (8* wlance) to +10 with only failing 2 times :D

Phantasma
Jul 9, 2012, 05:44 PM
After going through about 60 grinders, 3 grinders per attempt @ 6.8k meseta per attempt, I got my 9-star Jangrias to +10. With a Vol soul in it, it now has 497 attack power. ^_^

Crimson Exile
Jul 9, 2012, 05:49 PM
Go hard, or Go home is a great motto when grinding 7* rares. I have been doing well grinding

darkante
Jul 9, 2012, 05:51 PM
My luck isnīt that great.
So i probably wait until iīm richer before i go over the red penalty.
Or until i get some of those locks material.

At least i got it too 6 on that big lance rare.
Also on a Daylight scar.

xBladeM6x
Jul 9, 2012, 05:52 PM
It's sad, all these high star weps with lots of grinds, but no decent elemental percentage. Makes them more eye candy for the lobby than anything. *Sigh*

Been grinding a set of spears and swords to 10 and, so far pretty good, but not amazing.

Firehouse1983
Jul 9, 2012, 05:58 PM
I haven't tried grinding a rare yet, saying I haven't found anything worthwhile to grind, haha.

darkante
Jul 9, 2012, 05:58 PM
I can only imagine the cost of maxing out the element on the higher rares.
Not really my first priority, things dies pretty fast anyway.

CJ Johnny
Jul 16, 2012, 06:34 PM
Yes. +10-50%

http://i48.tinypic.com/11lh6s9.jpg

GoldenFalcon
Jul 16, 2012, 06:38 PM
I got an Axion to +10 with only 1 failure, going from +8 to +9 the first time

And.. I have used over 130 grinders on my Daylight Scar so far. It's sitting at +8 for the moment