Effectively playing FOmar [Archive]

KirinDave

03-24-2003, 10:12 PM

Okay. So I have my bband adapter, I get to play online. I also get to see a lot of other people playing online. And I notice a few things. Like how no one at all seems to play FOmars. All I see is everyone playing FOmars (I've seen between lvl 30-100) flailing about and in general not being nearly as useful as they can be. Look, over there! It's yet another FOmar wearing a FOnewm's gear (yet another Hildebear's Cane, did you really earn that Junior?) in general being rather ineffective.

So, let's talk about the right way to play a FOmar. We sure have talked alot about it on other threads. FOmars can be neatly summarized as (thanks Taco) "fighter-mages."

1) Don't use Force weapons unless they're mind-bogglingly better than hunter weapons that you also have access too. That seldom happens. FOmars do damage through lots of means, but melee damage is the main one. Don't be afraid to use a saber-class weapon. They're easy to use, powerful, and quick. You can use them quite easily.

2) SHIFTA AND DEBAND! DAMNIT! FOmars are teh rox0rs at shifta and deband. They get a huge range. If you're in a party, it's YOUR job to shifta and deband. Don't forget. Make it a priority to get high level shifta and deband.

3) JELLEN AND ZALURE! First, these techs don't suck. Second, you get exp for casting them. In a group, you can support people and make life easier for the classes that can use partisans.

4) Use techniques as a support means. You can do a lot of status effects. You can stun enemies into submission. If your partner is about to be besieged, let go with some gizonde and make the enemies do the funky electrocution dance. You can snap off a few ice spells and freeze everyone. Drop a few gifoies and enjoy the benefits are you fence among the flames. Use your techniques to supplement your combat abilities.

Basically, I want to re-emphasize, stop playing like another Force. Play to the strengths of the class. Oh, and don't trust the listings on this site for who can use what weapon. FOmars seem to be able to use pretty much every rare saber, which is a good class of weapon to them. Kaladbolg, Red Saber, Durandal, Lavis Cannon (pretty sure), etc.. If you go for an S-Rank, you might consider a double-saber. The Soul Banish and Soul Eater are highly overrated. Sure it's nice to have a partisan class, but dont' stake your life on it.

Anyways, if you have other ideas on what's good with FOmars, let's hear them.

IceBlink

03-24-2003, 10:36 PM

Heh. Everyone is a FOmar online. I guess you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. o_O

Plus... most of the stuff you suggested, that's what the FOmarl does, her being the best at support techs and all...

As for weapons, most use force weapons because they boost the power of techs, or cut TP costs. In levels below Ultimate, then they usually use hunter weapons and such...

KirinDave

03-24-2003, 10:52 PM

On 2003-03-24 20:36, IceBlink wrote:
Heh. Everyone is a FOmar online. I guess you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. o_O

I'm not saying I haven't seen FOmar. I've actually seen quite a few of them now. Most of them are being played in a way that seems ineffective.

Plus... most of the stuff you suggested, that's what the FOmarl does, her being the best at support techs and all...

No, when I say use techs for support, I don't mean support people with resta. I mean use elemental spells to stun and freeze enemies. Lots of people don't realize even if you don't do much damage the stun and freeze the effects are very helpful.

The FOmarl lacks the melee punch of the FOmar, and the MST of the FOmar, and seems to be a much less effective figher-mage class in general.

As for weapons, most use force weapons because they boost the power of techs, or cut TP costs. In levels below Ultimate, then they usually use hunter weapons and such...

Thank you for reinforcing my point. FOmars are not dependant upon techs for damage. If you don't do much damage with techs, who cares? Your higher ATP and good hunter weapon are where you'll do damage. High level Shifta and Deband assist this, as do high level jellen (thank you Jellen!) and Zalure.

Techs are cool and all, and they're useful, but the FOmar does not depend on them for damage.

Benjamin

03-24-2003, 11:39 PM

I use my HUmar foe melee thank you

KirinDave

03-25-2003, 01:30 AM

On 2003-03-24 21:39, Benjamin wrote:
I use my HUmar foe melee thank you

Well yeah. This thread is not to compare classes, it's merely to discuss strategy for FOmars. Clearly, a HUmar will be a better melee fighter. However, a FOmar can never be a pinnacle tech user of the FO group. His damage bonuses and MST just don't let him compete with the FOnewm and FOnewearl in technique damage.

elfin

03-25-2003, 02:48 AM

On 2003-03-24 23:30, KirinDave wrote:

On 2003-03-24 21:39, Benjamin wrote:
I use my HUmar foe melee thank you

Well yeah. This thread is not to compare classes, it's merely to discuss strategy for FOmars. Clearly, a HUmar will be a better melee fighter. However, a FOmar can never be a pinnacle tech user of the FO group. His damage bonuses and MST just don't let him compete with the FOnewm and FOnewearl in technique damage.

Well, no, he doesnt compete with the FOnewm, at least not in the Ra-tech area. But lets face it, mst doesnt increase spell damage that much... The mst difference between the FOmar and the FOnewm is a measly 160 mst... That gives the FOnewm quite a bit more TP than the FOmar, but damage wise (with gi-tech of course) its probably not worth mentioning. That leaves us with the FOnewearl. She has her bonuses in all the wrong places, at least in an AE point of view, but she has an incredible amount of mst... Will that make her do more damage than a FOnewm with Ra-techs?? the anwers i no. Will she compete with a FOmar in terms of damage in the Gi-techs?... Maybe. IMHO i dont think she will, but thats just an hypothesis...

KirinDave

03-25-2003, 04:30 AM

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On 2003-03-25 00:48, elfin wrote some stuff
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Yeah, but this is about FOmars and how to play them right.

I literally just had an eye-opening experience. I had someone watch me play a FOmar and say, "Wow, that works a lot better than how I was playing one." I spent the next hour or so helping him deck himself out as a melee-style fomar. Suddenly he was doing more damage, being a better teammate, and using way less TP.

FOmars have magic potential, but honestly they do so well as their unique hybrid role, who cares? It's more of a curiosity than an essential point.

KirinDave

03-25-2003, 04:31 AM

goaliedude10

03-25-2003, 05:48 AM

I played with two FOmars last night, one had a soul eater,and the other wasn't meleeing. They were, however, casting support techs, we didn't even have to ask.

Elusive_Llama

03-25-2003, 08:19 AM

"I'm a FOmar, plz rez me kthx"

lol

That leaves us with the FOnewearl. She has her bonuses in all the wrong places, at least in an AE point of view, but she has an incredible amount of mst... Will that make her do more damage than a FOnewm with Ra-techs?? the anwers i no. Will she compete with a FOmar in terms of damage in the Gi-techs?... Maybe. IMHO i dont think she will, but thats just an hypothesis...

She won't compete in terms ra-tech/gi-tech damage with the casters who get bonuses in those areas. Even equipping the appropriate merges and using a Sorceror's Cane or Psychowand won't do any good because every FO class can use those items too.

But her higher MST means a ton more tp to play with, which translates into more staying power (especially with a Psychowand), more free armor slots, and less piping. In other words, she can be a little more carefree with the blasting techs.

And she has the Megid from hell.

Khaotika

03-25-2003, 02:08 PM

FOmar double saber animation is hella slow. I always use a nice diska with insane hit % as my main weapon, sometimes switching over to a Gladius with the same type of %. =d

-Khao

Derkin

03-25-2003, 06:07 PM

Hey Kirin,

The techie managed to solve the problem so now (obviously) I have access to this site.

On topic...

My FOmar was the second character I made when I got PSO (On GC ><) and I didn't research his strengths/weaknesses. That was a bad idea. I raised him, and his mag, as if he were a FOnewm. He's a Force right, would could go wrong? I was doing fine all the way through Very Hard. Once I get to Ultimate I got a severe blow to my ego. My techs are so slow and do very little damage. The only thing I could really provide was S/D, J/Z and Resta (which, thanks to the range, you need to be right next to the person to heal.)

I got my FOmar to 108 and I just got too frustrated. I hate not being able to provide attacks. So, I put my FOmar on hold and spent my time with CMode and my HUmar. Well, Kirin definately gave me some good pointers for playing as a FOmar, effectively. So, as soon as I get my FOmar a better mag, I'll start playing him again.

I managed to get a Rainbow Baton and a Magic Rock Iristia (sp?) so all I need is a mag. Oh, and Kirin, I forgot to ask you yesterday about a barrier. Which would work well with a FOmar?

Anyways, hope to see you online tonight or sometime soon.

FOmars r teh r0x. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

HKDon

03-25-2003, 08:32 PM

My first character was a FOmar and I happen to be a Melee master so I ended making a POW mag, now I can equip all these great weapons but I see other Forces casting way advanced spells and when they laugh I say "Hey at least I can do more than 5 damage when I hit" heh heh, and the reactions from the Hunters, HA helarious

thewiredknight

03-25-2003, 08:34 PM

I actually do like using FO weapons. Simply because they can boost your MST to unfathomable levels and allow your attacks to do even more devastation than before. I RARELY use regular attacks with my FOmarl and just keep teching things like crazy, the FO weapons boost that and some have special attacks I can make ample use of.

Derkin

03-25-2003, 09:30 PM

Got a slight FOmar update.

I managed to get my FOmar a mag. I was playing in Ultimate doing 350-370 damage with a hard attack using a Rainbow Baton. No %s with Shifta and Zalure doing it's work.

eXo

03-26-2003, 03:46 AM

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Hiya all everything mentioned here seems to be nice and dandy, but I must admit that I am surprised that no one has been complaining about not being able to hit anything in ultimate mode http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Im not syre it might just be me but I cant melee that well in ultimate, and a fomar doing 350-370 dmg *WoW* thats pretty nice.. anyway can anyone give me the item heads up?whats the best way to build fomar max stats?

Derkin

03-26-2003, 04:37 AM

This is what my FOmar uses. I need better mechs. ><

Mag: Soniti (040/100/045/015)
Weaps:
Rainbow Baton (20/0/0/50) I know its a dupe... I'm using it until I find a Slicer to use my Iritista on.
Vulcans (0/0/0/15/50)
Armor: Guard Wave (4 Slot):
Units:
God/Power
God/Arm
Ogre/Power
Elf/Arm
Shield: God Shield Sakuza

Plenty of room for improvement! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

FOmars rock. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

soralan

03-26-2003, 11:24 AM

o ahd hildebear canes are so easy to finds, ive found about 6 in 100 hours, compared to 2 db's and 1 varista.....

themonkeyman

03-26-2003, 04:43 PM

what do you think of my FOmar?
lvl 36
mag: about lvl 70-80 a little mind a lot of power a lot of dex and a medium amount of defense
weapons: a nice soul eater +9
armor: hyper frame or something like that with a general mind, a dragon hp, and a general power
barrier: plasma barrier

the melee fomar strategy is the best ever!

Derkin

03-26-2003, 04:46 PM

On 2003-03-26 14:43, themonkeyman wrote:
what do you think of my FOmar?
lvl 36
mag: about lvl 70-80 a little mind a lot of power a lot of dex and a medium amount of defense
weapons: a nice soul eater +9
armor: hyper frame or something like that with a general mind, a dragon hp, and a general power
barrier: plasma barrier

the melee fomar strategy is the best ever!

Looks like you are starting off well. You might want to try somkething like a Kaladbolg as a 1on1 weap.

Tulathis

03-26-2003, 05:40 PM

FOmars seem to be able to use pretty much every rare saber, which is a good class of weapon to them. Kaladbolg, Red Saber, Durandal, Lavis Cannon (pretty sure), etc.. If you go for an S-Rank, you might consider a double-saber. The Soul Banish and Soul Eater are highly overrated. Sure it's nice to have a partisan class, but dont' stake your life on it.
FOmars cannot use the Lavis Cannon. They can use the Red Saber (and very effectively, I might add.) The Soul Banish is also very effective in certain situations. I usually don't carry either of these however. On my FOmar I usually grab (offline single player) a Holy Ray, Rainbow Baton, and Sorcerer's Cane. These three in combination seem to work very well for me. I have a Dark Bridge, Psycho Wand, and others, I just don't like them as much.

KirinDave

03-26-2003, 06:19 PM

Has anyone experimented with a high level FOmar and an Orotiagito? It would seem to me that that would be a very good weapon for them, since FOmars need high power any way they can get it.

Derkin

03-26-2003, 06:44 PM

I'm not sure a FOmar can use an Orotiagito, I believe it's HU only. I wish my FOmar could use it though.

Kent

03-26-2003, 08:51 PM

Yes, with FOmars a very good strategy is to buff yourself/allies and nerf your enemies. I currently use a Soul Eater and a Booma's Claw on my FOmar (as well as Shifta/Deband and Zalure, I don't use Jellen against most monsters).

The Soul Eater is a very good weapon once you meet the requirements, but later in the game it won't be doing much damage to enemies. In Normal and Hard, it can be extremely easy to survive large hordes of enemies with a Partisan-type weapon if you've mastered the Two-Inch Dodge (it's slightly harder to pull off in Vhard because my FOmar has somewhat low ATA and enemies move faster, and I haven't been to Ultimate yet).

Also, I believe the Elysion might be a good weapon for a FOmar, but I haven't the MST or the weapon to try it out yet.

BTW, the more common term for the type of character the FOmar is would be "Battlemage."

Robomonke

03-26-2003, 09:00 PM

Personally i think FOmars are utterly pointless. To many n00bs and morons play them because they are the only FO that "looks cool" gimme a break...and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl i dont really prefer those classes beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??

KirinDave

03-26-2003, 09:05 PM

On 2003-03-26 16:44, Derkin wrote:
I'm not sure a FOmar can use an Orotiagito, I believe it's HU only. I wish my FOmar could use it though.

We really should experiment. Does anyone have an Orotiagito we can just check with a FOmar? I'll meet your schedule to get there and if I steal it you can ruin my rep here and ban me from the site http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

eXo

03-26-2003, 09:10 PM

Sick-One

03-26-2003, 09:49 PM

On 2003-03-26 19:00, Robomonke wrote:
Personally i think FOmars are utterly pointless. To many n00bs and morons play them because they are the only FO that "looks cool" gimme a break...and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl i dont really prefer those classes beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??

You are entitled your opinion, and it's always welcome, this IS America http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif. Let's look at a few things you said.

"..and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl"

Granted those classes have good ATP and s/d/j/z, they get no bonuses to techs and have lower mst. Yeah, HUnewearl comes close, but she gets 100 less mats and that is a VERY noticable difference. Not to mention that both classes only have level 20 support techs (if you were to cast support techs geared towards damage you'd be 20 levels lower in "techage").. NEXT

"beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z"

Yeah, their stats are higher in places. That's always good when you're teamed with someone casting S/D/J/Z. FOmar is the best at casting those techs if I'm not mistaken, as FOmarl only gets a deband bonus. In a team that always has S/D/J/Zing going on, RAmars and HUmars are obsolete as far as damage goes, androids have the superior ATP ratings of their classes.. the only problem with that is they constantly need to be babysat by a resta-casting FO, in which case would make FOmarl better unless your FOmar uses a resta merge.

"so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??"

Yeah soloing isn't a concern but if you want levels, offline is where you will level faster, the enemies are weaker and still abundant. Not to mention that if you're offline you wont have "n00bz" and "morons" snatching up the rares that enemies drop when you kill them.

Well.., that's my two cents, though it probably won't stop your biased opinion.

..And in regard to eXo
My mag is 20/130/50/0 and I use arm units I found, preferrably elf/arms or god/arms, whichever you can get your hands on. Hitting isn't a problem as long as you have hit% on a weapon. I went through ultimate forest at like level 115 with a gladius with 50% hit I bought, did hard hard hard combos. In later episode 2 it can be rough, which is where it becomes mandantory to have high ata. I recommend something like rainbow baton, because for a couple IDs (like mine) you can get the magic stone off a rare monster and you can buy slicers with 50% hit.

[ This Message was edited by: Sick-One on 2003-03-26 20:36 ]

Derkin

03-26-2003, 10:06 PM

On 2003-03-26 19:05, KirinDave wrote:

On 2003-03-26 16:44, Derkin wrote:
I'm not sure a FOmar can use an Orotiagito, I believe it's HU only. I wish my FOmar could use it though.

We really should experiment. Does anyone have an Orotiagito we can just check with a FOmar? I'll meet your schedule to get there and if I steal it you can ruin my rep here and ban me from the site http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Yeah, we should find out at least. BTW, I managed to trade for an Ancient Saber. Only 16 ATP away from using it too. I can't wait. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Thanks Sick-One for making that post, my response would have been far less mature. :

KirinDave

03-26-2003, 11:36 PM

Tigereye

03-27-2003, 12:44 AM

Each character plays differently. If you're a FOnewm, chances are that you'll take full advantage of your Gi and Ra tech bonuses. In my case as a FOmar, it'd be pointless for me to choose him if I completely neglected the fact that he has the most ATP of the forces. The 2x S/D range works well for me in terms of beefing up the team more easily. The Gi tech bonuses are pretty good but keep in mind that Gifoie and Gibarta cast horribly slow, making Gizonde the only really worthwhile attack spell in terms of damage vs time. I also usually equip a Rafoie Merge to boost its power to a decent level, keeping in mind that my MST is nowhere near a FOnewm's or FOnewearl's. This is why I play him like a HUne. I'm taking advantage of his ATP, while still being able to support well. It may look funny to you, but I've been successful. You may be able to clear rooms faster but I can kill bosses (Except De Rol Le) faster. Quite an interesting tradeoff if you ask me. Anyway, I've always enjoyed a mixed style of play. Seeing a force use weapons successfully isn't exactly something you see being done well anyway. Many bash FOmars because they fail to utilize their full potential. Let's face it, a FOmar's magic doesn't come close to the FOnewm and FOnewearl in terms of damage. That's something he has to live with. To the his merit, his ATP, when combined with mechs and S/Z 30, enable him to deal surprisingly high amounts of concentrated damage, making even a FOnewearl's basic techs look weak when you compare the cumulative damage. Best of all, it doesn't require TP to perform the actual attack (Apart from S/Z, which you should be casting as a force anyway), although it has significantly less range and has a chance of missing.

elfin

03-27-2003, 02:35 AM

On 2003-03-26 22:44, Tigereye wrote:
Each character plays differently. If you're a FOnewm, chances are that you'll take full advantage of your Gi and Ra tech bonuses. In my case as a FOmar, it'd be pointless for me to choose him if I completely neglected the fact that he has the most ATP of the forces. The 2x S/D range works well for me in terms of beefing up the team more easily. The Gi tech bonuses are pretty good but keep in mind that Gifoie and Gibarta cast horribly slow, making Gizonde the only really worthwhile attack spell in terms of damage vs time. I also usually equip a Rafoie Merge to boost its power to a decent level, keeping in mind that my MST is nowhere near a FOnewm's or FOnewearl's. This is why I play him like a HUne. I'm taking advantage of his ATP, while still being able to support well. It may look funny to you, but I've been successful. You may be able to clear rooms faster but I can kill bosses (Except De Rol Le) faster. Quite an interesting tradeoff if you ask me. Anyway, I've always enjoyed a mixed style of play. Seeing a force use weapons successfully isn't exactly something you see being done well anyway. Many bash FOmars because they fail to utilize their full potential. Let's face it, a FOmar's magic doesn't come close to the FOnewm and FOnewearl in terms of damage. That's something he has to live with. To the his merit, his ATP, when combined with mechs and S/Z 30, enable him to deal surprisingly high amounts of concentrated damage, making even a FOnewearl's basic techs look weak when you compare the cumulative damage. Best of all, it doesn't require TP to perform the actual attack (Apart from S/Z, which you should be casting as a force anyway), although it has significantly less range and has a chance of missing.

It suprises me that you have a lvl 195 (!) FOmar, and still havent figured out that he IS comparable in damage against the FOnewm and FOnewearl in certain aspects... He execels the FOnewearl in AE aspects for instance. And to say that Gizonde is the only worhtwhile attack spell in the GI spell area is, how do i put it... Well, flawed... Period. I dont know how many times ive said it, but it seems like ill have to say it again... Gifoie is NOT slow. It can rival Rafoies speed beleive it or not if used in a certain way. Ive posted it so many times, but no one seems to take it for a fact, though its very much true. Gibarta on the other hand is, i wouldnt say useless, but i for one has not figured it out yet... But its not that much of a big deal, if i use a ice spell its not first and formost for damage, and its not that many enemies that is sensitive to ice in ult, not in ep 1 anyways. Come to think of it, not that many in ep 2 either... I totaly agree with you though on the concentrated damage thing, he will, without a doubt do much more damage than any other force with the proper equipment. Give him a high hit vulcan, a /battle unit and maybe a god/arm and then he is of dealing alot of damage to a single enemy.

Derkin

03-27-2003, 05:14 PM

I dont know how many times ive said it, but it seems like ill have to say it again... Gifoie is NOT slow. It can rival Rafoies speed beleive it or not if used in a certain way. Ive posted it so many times, but no one seems to take it for a fact, though its very much true.

I, personally, find Gifoie too cumbersome to be useful. I agree with Tigereye, Gizonde seems to be the best bang for your TP when it comes to Gi. :

Tigereye

03-27-2003, 05:35 PM

Gibarta owned back on v2 when its casting speed was insane to the point it casted faster than the basic techs. Now its speed's been cut significantly. I also agree with the AE aspect when compared to a FOnewearl. However, he does lose to the FOnewm.

Tigereye

03-27-2003, 05:38 PM

Sorry for the double post but I utilize Charge Vulcans with 50% Hit as well. It'd be nice to find some with even higher % Hit to compensate for his 163 max ATA, compared to 199 for my HUne.

Robomonke

03-27-2003, 08:29 PM

On 2003-03-26 19:10, eXo wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:00, Robomonke wrote:
Personally i think FOmars are utterly pointless. To many n00bs and morons play them because they are the only FO that "looks cool" gimme a break...and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl i dont really prefer those classes beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??

thats right you tell em, everyone is entittled to there own personal opinions,vetern/noobs or A.K.A morons as you like to call them, have the same right to play there choice as you do yours right??hmm but lets look at the stats ok ... we have 10+ people saying fomar is a dicent character and so far only 1 person, calling FOmar utterly pointless hmmm lets try to figure out who the moron is?

I'm guessing you.

BTW dicint isnt a word. And when i said that too many idiots supported FOmars with no facts and stupid ideas that they think somehow rectifies what they are saying. You didn't exactly make my point look bad when u posted that.

[ This Message was edited by: Robomonke on 2003-03-27 18:32 ]

Sick-One

03-27-2003, 10:14 PM

Okay...this topic was posted to state and discuss the proper use of FOmars.. not to flame others. Alot of pros and cons were listed, points made. Let's not try to get down each other's throats with insults and pointing out typos eh?

SadiXticHeath

03-27-2003, 11:22 PM

i really do prefer my 50% to grants and support techs and all...FOmarLLLLL is by far better in my mind.

Derkin

03-28-2003, 01:25 AM

Here is an easy way to solve this problem. If you don't like FOmars, why the hell are you in this topic? This has nothing to do with FOmar vs whoever. It is for discussion on how to play a FOmar effectively. Gee, go figure. --;

eXo

04-01-2003, 03:55 PM

On 2003-03-27 18:29, Robomonke wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:10, eXo wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:00, Robomonke wrote:
Personally i think FOmars are utterly pointless. To many n00bs and morons play them because they are the only FO that "looks cool" gimme a break...and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl i dont really prefer those classes beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??

thats right you tell em, everyone is entittled to there own personal opinions,vetern/noobs or A.K.A morons as you like to call them, have the same right to play there choice as you do yours right??hmm but lets look at the stats ok ... we have 10+ people saying fomar is a dicent character and so far only 1 person, calling FOmar utterly pointless hmmm lets try to figure out who the moron is?

I'm guessing you.

BTW dicint isnt a word. And when i said that too many idiots supported FOmars with no facts and stupid ideas that they think somehow rectifies what they are saying. You didn't exactly make my point look bad when u posted that.

[ This Message was edited by: Robomonke on 2003-03-27 18:32 ]

hey its cool dont be so upset after all,FOmar is suppose to be used by advanced characters if its to difficult,for you to handle then do not worry about it, but at the same time do not downgrade it. and oh yeah FYI that little mistake is something I believe, is called a typo maybe you have heard of it Have a nice day ..

Rune-blade

04-01-2003, 04:26 PM

I have a lvl 135 Fomar. I use a Magical Piece and equip a Gifoie merge. My gifoie kicks serious ass. IMO, I think this is the most effective way of playing a Fomar. Most commmon enemies in Ult are vulnerable to fire. First things first...get a Magical Piece!

wizkid357

04-01-2003, 04:58 PM

On 2003-03-26 14:46, Derkin wrote:

On 2003-03-26 14:43, themonkeyman wrote:
what do you think of my FOmar?
lvl 36
mag: about lvl 70-80 a little mind a lot of power a lot of dex and a medium amount of defense
weapons: a nice soul eater +9
armor: hyper frame or something like that with a general mind, a dragon hp, and a general power
barrier: plasma barrier

the melee fomar strategy is the best ever!

Looks like you are starting off well. You might want to try somkething like a Kaladbolg as a 1on1 weap.

You are like a clone!It`s scary sure I`m level 41 and have all magic but were close.

Robomonke

04-01-2003, 08:29 PM

On 2003-04-01 13:55, eXo wrote:

On 2003-03-27 18:29, Robomonke wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:10, eXo wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:00, Robomonke wrote:
Personally i think FOmars are utterly pointless. To many n00bs and morons play them because they are the only FO that "looks cool" gimme a break...and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl i dont really prefer those classes beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??

thats right you tell em, everyone is entittled to there own personal opinions,vetern/noobs or A.K.A morons as you like to call them, have the same right to play there choice as you do yours right??hmm but lets look at the stats ok ... we have 10+ people saying fomar is a dicent character and so far only 1 person, calling FOmar utterly pointless hmmm lets try to figure out who the moron is?

I'm guessing you.

BTW dicint isnt a word. And when i said that too many idiots supported FOmars with no facts and stupid ideas that they think somehow rectifies what they are saying. You didn't exactly make my point look bad when u posted that.

[ This Message was edited by: Robomonke on 2003-03-27 18:32 ]

hey its cool dont be so upset after all,FOmar is suppose to be used by advanced characters if its to difficult,for you to handle then do not worry about it, but at the same time do not downgrade it. and oh yeah FYI that little mistake is something I believe, is called a typo maybe you have heard of it Have a nice day ..

eXo re-read my last sentence and then rethink what you just said.

eXo

04-03-2003, 04:23 AM

On 2003-04-01 18:29, Robomonke wrote:

On 2003-04-01 13:55, eXo wrote:

On 2003-03-27 18:29, Robomonke wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:10, eXo wrote:

On 2003-03-26 19:00, Robomonke wrote:
Personally i think FOmars are utterly pointless. To many n00bs and morons play them because they are the only FO that "looks cool" gimme a break...and if you want to do good damage but be able to use s/d/j/z and other techs be a RAmarl or HUnewearl i dont really prefer those classes beacause a RAcast or RAmar or a HUmar and HUcast have superior stats and i play exclusivly online so i always have someone giving me S/D/J/Z so soloing isnt a big concern after all the game is called Phantasy Star Online righT??

thats right you tell em, everyone is entittled to there own personal opinions,vetern/noobs or A.K.A morons as you like to call them, have the same right to play there choice as you do yours right??hmm but lets look at the stats ok ... we have 10+ people saying fomar is a dicent character and so far only 1 person, calling FOmar utterly pointless hmmm lets try to figure out who the moron is?

I'm guessing you.

BTW dicint isnt a word. And when i said that too many idiots supported FOmars with no facts and stupid ideas that they think somehow rectifies what they are saying. You didn't exactly make my point look bad when u posted that.

[ This Message was edited by: Robomonke on 2003-03-27 18:32 ]

hey its cool dont be so upset after all,FOmar is suppose to be used by advanced characters if its to difficult,for you to handle then do not worry about it, but at the same time do not downgrade it. and oh yeah FYI that little mistake is something I believe, is called a typo maybe you have heard of it Have a nice day ..

eXo re-read my last sentence and then rethink what you just said.

Robomonke Re-read your original statment and think about what you said http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif