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DoubleCannon
Jul 15, 2012, 09:11 PM
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1402/posgrind.png

Happy I found this, extremely mad I wasted 150 grinds on this and got it to +9 twice and never got it to +10! Thats all I wanted :( Now it sits at a +5. The grind is utter crap. should not require 2 grind things. ugh not happy right now lol

however this has +5 Rare drop and +10 exp so should help hopefully

UnLucky
Jul 15, 2012, 09:14 PM
yeah I had a +9 broom go down to +5

but then I got a common rod to +10 in 10 grinds and it's better than the rod used to be so

Zorafim
Jul 15, 2012, 09:15 PM
You get a better gunslash doing matter board. If style is your thing, then never mind. But you could wait until you get the best weapon you're planning on getting before grinding.

Zyrusticae
Jul 15, 2012, 09:17 PM
I really don't recommend trying to get rares past +5 or +6. The chance of success is terrible (talking less than 50% chances here).

ashley50
Jul 15, 2012, 09:20 PM
Don't worry, you'll find another.

NoiseHERO
Jul 15, 2012, 09:24 PM
I always get as far as 8... Then the game just says "I think you've tested your luck enough." Then I get smackrf down and my weapon gets knocked all the way down to 4 like I got caught counting cards in a Las Vegas Casino.

youcantcatchtheblue
Jul 15, 2012, 09:30 PM
I got my Daylight Scar wired-lance to +9 without it dropping any levels, but I'm afraid to try again just to get it up to +10... for now +9 is good enough I guess XD

Ueno54
Jul 15, 2012, 09:31 PM
Dodo ate the poison 3 on my Zanba and 2 items with poison III on them for upgrading it to 4. I'm still kinda bummed.

NoiseHERO
Jul 15, 2012, 09:32 PM
I got my Daylight Scar wired-lance to +9 without it dropping any levels, but I'm afraid to try again just to get it up to +10... for now +9 is good enough I guess XD

Took me forever to get that thing to 10...

Don't even bother till you rack up another... 40 grinders... e_e

Just incase.

KEV1N
Jul 15, 2012, 09:49 PM
Never again...

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/Eurhw.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

NoiseHERO
Jul 15, 2012, 09:52 PM
Never again...

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/Eurhw.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I don't think the quote from G Gundam goes like that...

Metalsnake27
Jul 15, 2012, 09:53 PM
Never again...

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/Eurhw.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I'm too focused on what the heck is going on in the background.

KrankItVZ
Jul 15, 2012, 10:20 PM
I just went to tekker and got that crappyass rare gun above the one you got. But wtv at least be glad they dont destroy weapons after a failed upgrade in this game

Chik'Tikka
Jul 15, 2012, 10:37 PM
Never again...

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/Eurhw.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

lolz, i'm working an one of those right now+^_^+ it takes 3 grinders per grind so i ran out at +8 +^_^+ hopefully by the time I'm 31 I'll have it at +10+^_^+

gravityvx
Jul 15, 2012, 10:37 PM
Need more grinders, my only issue :| Don't fail very much.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/YRziN.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Chik'Tikka
Jul 15, 2012, 10:40 PM
Need more grinders, my only issue :| Don't fail very much.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/YRziN.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

oh, beautiful denian gun, did you pick that up? where do they drop? i can't afford one, i know that!!+^_^+

gravityvx
Jul 15, 2012, 10:41 PM
Cata or whatever that slinky dragon is called, dropped it.

Chik'Tikka
Jul 15, 2012, 10:44 PM
*immediately forgets about unlocking tundra and starts hunting Catadrans* +^_^+

DoubleCannon
Jul 15, 2012, 11:19 PM
I got my Daylight Scar wired-lance to +9 without it dropping any levels, but I'm afraid to try again just to get it up to +10... for now +9 is good enough I guess XD

dont touch it any further! lol

Seriously I had it at +9 and it was really nice at+9 but +10 just seemed so.. nice lol and i failed miserably. If anything I plan to make a ragne answerer +10 and will curse like no tomorrow trying lol

Mag-X
Jul 15, 2012, 11:40 PM
Wow. I stopped at +5 on my crappy 5 star rifle. It was way too expensive trying to get it above that. I think I'm going to be stuck with it forever since rares seem to be all show in this game.

Hansha
Jul 15, 2012, 11:48 PM
+7 is fairly easy no matter the stars. Afterwards, on any 8* or 9*, I would recommend grind protection items but they are a bit expensive right now.

gigawuts
Jul 15, 2012, 11:54 PM
I figure I'll save up millions of meseta to fully grind ONLY the weapons I really, really want to keep long term for various reasons. Stuff like legacy weapons I adored in their respective games, and then awesome new weapons too.

So, you know, the last survivor, chain sawd, frozen shooter, spread needle, soul eater...and then if something new REALLY stands out, that too. I'm really loving the vibe of the Ardillo, but I'm not sure if I'll just wind up liking new mines stuff better.

edit: And yes, grind protection items are pretty pricey for the gain. It'd need to be -2 failure or +25% success for me to consider it worth the price :/

Hansha
Jul 16, 2012, 02:43 AM
I figure I'll save up millions of meseta to fully grind ONLY the weapons I really, really want to keep long term for various reasons. Stuff like legacy weapons I adored in their respective games, and then awesome new weapons too.

So, you know, the last survivor, chain sawd, frozen shooter, spread needle, soul eater...and then if something new REALLY stands out, that too. I'm really loving the vibe of the Ardillo, but I'm not sure if I'll just wind up liking new mines stuff better.

edit: And yes, grind protection items are pretty pricey for the gain. It'd need to be -2 failure or +25% success for me to consider it worth the price :/

I was talking about the really pricy ones that guarantee no - drop. I want to use them on my Rust Device and Cruel Coffin for the last two levels, but they are like 300k right now and there is still a chance of failing the grind itself.
Also, higher star items get to -3 chance in failure, so its pretty ridiculous.

Lumpen Thingy
Jul 16, 2012, 02:48 AM
Took me probably 300k to grind the same gunblade to +10. It was a pain in the ass but yet I haven't had any problems grinding anything else.

aduran
Jul 16, 2012, 02:52 AM
using the AC scratch grind success ticket i got 2 9* +10 easily. i use them 6 and up
kind of expensive at the shop around 250K but might be worth it on your last grinds

moorebounce
Jul 16, 2012, 02:59 AM
Once you start grinding common weapons you can make common weapons better than rare ones until you start to have really good rares drop for you.

IzzyData
Jul 16, 2012, 04:02 AM
Is this thing pretty good? Found it how it is minus the +10.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/58437091/Swordplus10.PNG

JeyKama
Jul 16, 2012, 04:33 AM
I feel for you, I really do. I've sunk ~250 grinders into my Tig Ridol and it's still +5. Thankfully I'm super-happy with the Alba Laser design.

I didn't have much hope for my Urs Ragna but like 150 grinders later it finally made it.
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/8h5XS.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Then I tried to grind a Strike Broom while levelling FO and man was that a mistake.

AlMcFly
Jul 16, 2012, 04:43 AM
Anything higher than 5* rarity, I stop grinding my weapon or armor at the first red-lettered danger of attempting signal. That is usually when things start going horribly wrong and costly. I had no trouble at all however getting multiple 5* weapons to +10. The higher ones I've experience a lot of trouble.

Vylera
Jul 16, 2012, 04:51 AM
Is this thing pretty good? Found it how it is minus the +10.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/58437091/Swordplus10.PNG

The sword is pretty impressive granted that my Vita Sword +10 with +40 striking in the attributes is resting at 417, but requires 393 striking as opposed to 326.

Your wired lance and partisan are due for an upgrade, though (mine are too).

Arika
Jul 16, 2012, 04:52 AM
At least your weapon not totally break apart when grind fail

JeyKama
Jul 16, 2012, 04:55 AM
At least your weapon not totally break apart when grind fail

Thank you for reminding me of all those Phantoms I destroyed.

GoldenFalcon
Jul 16, 2012, 05:44 AM
Thank you for reminding me of all those Phantoms I destroyed.

+1
I'm sure every ranger had an experience just like this

Kion
Jul 16, 2012, 06:02 AM
My strategy has been keep going until it breaks and then stop. Got my 9★ arm unit to 10 that way today. Some weapons just don't grind and the more they break the worse the chances of them being successful. But to save your time, money and frustration and just move on or buy AC until you get enough grinding boost tickets.

Scotty T
Jul 16, 2012, 06:14 AM
I bought a 5 star lance and grinded it from 0 to 10 without failing once just so you know :P

Lostbob117
Jul 16, 2012, 06:39 AM
The grinds go down? I was grinding a claymore got it to +8 and it failed but stayed at +8. o.o

IzzyData
Jul 16, 2012, 06:53 AM
The grinds go down? I was grinding a claymore got it to +8 and it failed but stayed at +8. o.o

Pretty sure it only goes down if it is a rare.

Coatl
Jul 16, 2012, 09:51 AM
Oh lord.
This is the EXACT same gunblade I spent 300 grinders on and it sits at +8 forever now.
Me: "Well, I have enough meseta, and enough grinders, and too much time on my hands. Let's go for it!"

300K meseta and all my grinders later.

Me: "Awww.."
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTo2T7cIKyV8ipFuqtWfHMcNtxzoLjy Syka0FniX61gM3iQ6ygP11HwCulpQ



You get a better gunslash doing matter board. If style is your thing, then never mind. But you could wait until you get the best weapon you're planning on getting before grinding.

A better gunblade would be a 9 star gunblade. You sure matter boards provide that?

sugarFO
Jul 16, 2012, 09:55 AM
Yeah. I'm NEVER trying to grind a rare to +10 again.

Akaimizu
Jul 16, 2012, 09:59 AM
Thanks sugarFO, your comment put this in my mind.

(Waits for the George Michael-style remix)

I'll never weapon grind again.
Busted gear has got now power.
I can't even start to pretend.
I feel like such a fool.

I should of known better than to grind again.
The risk was too high with the last time.
I will not grind one to 10,
I think I'll stick with two-oo-oo! (Saxophone solo)

Ooh oooh.

sugarFO
Jul 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
(Waits for the George Michael-style remix)

I'll never weapon grind again.
Busted gear has got now power.
I can't even start to pretend.
I feel like such a fool.

I should of known better than to grind again.
The risk was too high with the last time.
I will not grind one to 10,
I think I'll stick with two-oo-oo! (Saxophone solor)

Ooh oooh.

LOL excellent post

Crysteon
Jul 16, 2012, 10:06 AM
God....reading this topic reminded me of how stupid and horrible was grinding that 9* Talis (デュエルゲイズ)............ I spent like 300+ grinders and nearly 1.5mil trying to get it to +10 and it ended up being +4. I swear that was the first time I've had horrible luck grinding something in this game. My Ragne Answerer just failed like 3 times and then made it through +10. Also, I never had issues grinding my 8*- 9* units at all.

All hail bullshit luck and RNG!

Kazzi
Jul 16, 2012, 12:10 PM
From my experience grinding weapons, the jump from 9 to 10 is insane. It's even harder to upgrade a rare weapon as the rates increase iirc? It really comes down to luck. I recommend only grinding things that you'll be using for a while, or just buying +10 ones in the marketplace.

Jiraiza
Jul 16, 2012, 01:28 PM
I always thought it was easy to +10 a 9* weapon mainly because I straight up got +10 on my 9* hotdog rifle with little effort. Having tried to do it again on another hotdog rifle, boy did reality hit me hard. I'm lucky as hell.

With that said, best bet is to get grind protectors. If you're rich that is.

Spellbinder
Jul 16, 2012, 01:36 PM
I felt sick when I finished.

[spoiler-box]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/ThePacster/pso20120717_033245_000.jpg[/spoiler-box]

DoubleCannon
Jul 16, 2012, 04:21 PM
man just think once very hard comes out I bet we will see possibly 10-12* items? probably not 12* but regardless the game has up to 15* i heard.. first grind = 10% chance lol

eharima
Jul 16, 2012, 06:34 PM
my 9* hotdog rifle .

wait, what? :lol:

Aewyn
Jul 16, 2012, 11:29 PM
Well.. compared to PSU, I've got all the luck this time it seems. I've ground countless things to +10 and almost every time I walk directly to +10... The most fails I've had before getting to +10 is 15, then it went straight from +6 to +10 without another fail. Just luck of the draw.

Vylera
Jul 16, 2012, 11:30 PM
Well.. compared to PSU, I've got all the luck this time it seems. I've ground countless things to +10 and almost every time I walk directly to +10... The most fails I've had before getting to +10 is 15, then it went straight from +6 to +10 without another fail. Just luck of the draw.

Question is, where you grinding a RARE equip?

We're not talking 150 grinders for regular equips.

Aewyn
Jul 16, 2012, 11:57 PM
7*, 8*, 9*. 9* Units, too. I assume by rare, you mean such "rainbow checker" background weapons such as the ティグリドル, ヤスミノコフ3000R, and such correct? I know my Cavalry units only failed twice between the two of them (I've yet to get the legs).

JeyKama
Jul 17, 2012, 12:26 AM
Just so you guys stop saying "oh I've ground TONS of rares to +10 so easy!", the hardest 9* armor to grind is the same grind difficulty as a 1-5* weapon. So by all accounts of 1-5*+10 weapons... pretty easy.

Arika
Jul 17, 2012, 12:37 AM
I felt sick when I finished.

[spoiler-box]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/ThePacster/pso20120717_033245_000.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Please tell me how much did you spend on that grinding cost?

Priest
Jul 17, 2012, 01:36 AM
I don't understand this grinding system at all. I spent hundreds and hundreds of grinders on various 9 stars and failed miserably. But tonight, I got my orange 9 star partisan from 0 to +10 without failing ONCE. Plus i got my soul eater and axion to +10 only failing a few times.

Spellbinder
Jul 17, 2012, 01:52 AM
Please tell me how much did you spend on that grinding cost?

I only failed 3 times around +6. I still can't believe I did it.

Aewyn
Jul 17, 2012, 02:45 AM
Just so you guys stop saying "oh I've ground TONS of rares to +10 so easy!", the hardest 9* armor to grind is the same grind difficulty as a 1-5* weapon. So by all accounts of 1-5*+10 weapons... pretty easy.I did say, "Units, too." I knew about the units being easier to grind. It's just interesting that even the rares I've ground I haven't really had a problem with. I expected to lose tons of grinders at 3 a pop but I went straight to 10, basically. Just random dumb luck I suppose.

Akiyama
Jul 17, 2012, 02:57 AM
I've spent a good 150+ grinders and around 300k trying to grind my Patty Lumeria (the 8* ability requirement spear) to +10, got it to +9, said eff it lol

Arika
Jul 17, 2012, 04:05 AM
I only failed 3 times around +6. I still can't believe I did it.

uh, so lucky.