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MelancholyWitch
Jul 20, 2012, 12:16 AM
you should go ahead and start updating your client.

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 12:42 AM
http://sadpanda.us/images/1091120-CHY3Y0F.png
My luck doesn't end.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 12:48 AM
Well, that's certainly unfortunate. I'm assuming you've tried a full reinstall?

MelancholyWitch
Jul 20, 2012, 12:54 AM
There's been reports of people saying their launcher is not updating correctly and producing some form of error I'm assuming that error is what it is, maybe if someone had any more information and could help with this? I don't really know if just trying it over and over again will fix it.

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 12:58 AM
In any case, if someone got working copies of the updated pso2launcher.exe/pso2download.exe/pso2updater.exe files please do upload them. Now I got a message that I don't have the rights and Windows tells me that I don't have the rights to modify the files rights even when running on an administrator account on XP.

Limbo_lag
Jul 20, 2012, 12:59 AM
(moved from another thread)

I'm getting error 632 (and sometimes 649) after this latest patch. Is this the same for everyone currently?

Client reads as 1.0004.1, but ships appear offline. I had some issue with installing the patch through the launcher, but it was able to boot properly, so I dunno whether its a problem with my download, or whether the servers are actually still down :/

Yunfa
Jul 20, 2012, 12:59 AM
XP.

Wha--.......

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 01:01 AM
Wha--.......

What's the problem? (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx) is it 2014 already?

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 01:01 AM
(moved from another thread)

I'm getting error 632 (and sometimes 649) after this latest patch. Is this the same for everyone currently?

Client reads as 1.0004.1, but ships appear offline. I had some issue with installing the patch through the launcher, but it was able to boot properly, so I dunno whether its a problem with my download, or whether the servers are actually still down :/

Servers are still down.

Laguna
Jul 20, 2012, 01:04 AM
I'm having this same problem. :(

ShadowDragon28
Jul 20, 2012, 01:04 AM
um seems sticking with Win XP w/service pack 3 a good thing, updated the launcher and patched the client and everything seems fine so far.

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 01:07 AM
http://sadpanda.us/images/1091120-CHY3Y0F.png
My luck doesn't end.
What the heck kind of windows are you running? Windows 2k?

Lumpen Thingy
Jul 20, 2012, 01:08 AM
What the heck kind of windows are you running?
some people(myself included) use the windows basic theme to save resources

Polly
Jul 20, 2012, 01:08 AM
What the heck kind of windows are you running? Windows 2k?

My guess would be "Windows with no fancy skin stuff enabled." I know a lot of people that run all recent versions of Windows like that.

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 01:10 AM
some people(myself included) use the windows basic theme to save resourcesHow many resources exactly are we talking?

That heavily sounds like something I would do, if the price was right.

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 01:11 AM
I'm running the Classic theme on my Windows XP Pro SP3 because I like how it looks, my PC is fairly OK (Phenom II X2 545, 2GB DDR2 800mhz RAM, Radeon HD4650)

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 01:13 AM
In any case, if someone got working copies of the updated pso2launcher.exe/pso2download.exe/pso2updater.exe files please do upload them. Now I got a message that I don't have the rights and Windows tells me that I don't have the rights to modify the files rights even when running on an administrator account on XP.

Without actually knowing what is going on under the security tab it is really hard to give directions. I could give directions to set it to the likely settings, but without knowing exactly what the settings are (such as current security entries and the current owner) then it is hard to know what to say.

Lumpen Thingy
Jul 20, 2012, 01:17 AM
How many resources exactly are we talking?

That heavily sounds like something I would do, if the price was right.
well the themes come with windows 7 so if you have that it should be in your pc already lol

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 01:17 AM
http://sadpanda.us/images/1091157-L93QQT6.png here is a picture how it looks. All my HDDs are on NTFS since 2003.

Solstice
Jul 20, 2012, 01:21 AM
My desktop theme is kinda weird. (http://i.imgur.com/9gzJK.jpg)

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 01:25 AM
My desktop theme is kinda weird. (http://i.imgur.com/9gzJK.jpg)Love it!

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 01:31 AM
After [deleting and] restoring the files [from the .BAK files] around 5 times I finally could change the user permissions. So yeah, brute force all the way.

MelancholyWitch
Jul 20, 2012, 01:45 AM
In any case, if someone got working copies of the updated pso2launcher.exe/pso2download.exe/pso2updater.exe files please do upload them. Now I got a message that I don't have the rights and Windows tells me that I don't have the rights to modify the files rights even when running on an administrator account on XP.

Yes this is an error others have been receiving as well not sure if uninstall will even work.



After [deleting and] restoring the files [from the .BAK files] around 5 times I finally could change the user permissions. So yeah, brute force all the way.

oh ok I suppose that worked for you then? Maybe it just some error happening with those certain versions of Windows.

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 01:47 AM
I've only deleted the binaries, nothing else. A full reinstall would be pointless as it was only the binaries playing dirty. And yes, changing the permission made it work (but it took 5 turns to be even able to change the permissions).

GeShadow
Jul 20, 2012, 01:52 AM
someone know i have that same error
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/Ge_Shadow/123.jpg
someone can tell me WTH is that

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 01:57 AM
http://sadpanda.us/images/1091157-L93QQT6.png here is a picture how it looks. All my HDDs are on NTFS since 2003.

I'll give you steps on how to make sure things are working right. These are for Windows 7, but besides becoming UAC friendly, there hasn't been much change. You can normally just click buttons directly rather than having to press the edit button first.
This also requires that you are running as an administrator.
Finally, I'm using the english version, but besides language changes, the layouts of things shouldn't have changed much.
One final thing, if the security tab has permissions for SYSTEM, Administrators and Users, don't do anything. The permissions on the executable files are set correctly already, and this guide is useless to you. Finally, in the parentesis, there is the fully qualified group name (in my case it is MULTI\Users or MULTI\Administrators) this will most likely be different for you since the format is <computer name>\<group>. So unless you also named your computer Multi, then this will be different. Don't worry about it though, just substitute it for <your computer name>\Administrators or <your computer name>\Users and you will be fine.

Changing the owner.

Ok, first of all, make sure that the owner of these files are set correctly.

First go to the security tab.

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec1.png

Click the Advanced button. And on the window that appears, click the owner tab.

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec2.png

If the current owner isn't the Administrators group, then you will need to change it. To do that, click the Edit button (for XP this should be the other users or groups button, so just do what the next step says.) If it is, go down to the changing of the file permissions.

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec3.png

If Administrators is in the list shown above, click that and then click apply. You may be asked to set appropriate permissions to access the file, in this case click yes. If Administrators isn't in the list, click the other users or groups button.

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec4.png

In the big text box, type in Administrators and then check name, it should then prepend your computer name to it and underline it.

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec5.png

Click ok. In the window that it returns to, click apply and if you are asked to set appropriate permissions to access the file, click yes.

Changing the file permissions.

Right, to change the permissions to pretty good defaults (it is how Windows does it all of the time.)

Go to the security tab in properties and then click advanced. Then stay on the permissions tab.

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec6.png

Since this may be bad or only have the access rights for Administrators for you right now, click on the Change permissions button. (This is also something you don't have to do on XP, just go to the next step.)

http://nyaanyaa.ath.cx/stuff/img/sec7.png

Now, the two important things to note here are the Inherited from column and the Include inheritable permissions from this object's parent check box. If that is checked but you have no inherited permissions in that list, then there is something larger at work.

Anyway, to get all of the inheritable permissions, click the Include inheritable permissions checkbox and then apply. You should now see the permissions from the parent in that list (my image has the defaults for SYSTEM, Administrators and Users, I added what I did to Authenticated Users for a reason, so that may be different.) Once that is done, delete any permissions that are not inherited and you are set.

If you then do this for any other files that are having problems, then you should be able to fix things.

GeShadow
Jul 20, 2012, 02:04 AM
i have all those steps still that error apear when i run the launch im w8ting until the server return..... i hope that will fix it

Arios
Jul 20, 2012, 02:12 AM
i have all those steps still that error apear when i run the launch im w8ting until the server return..... i hope that will fix it

Got that message when i tried to update too. Managed to solve the last patch bug by using Ana-Chan's updated .exe files, last time the launcher was the problem...not it seems the mess is with the updater...dunno. Really frustrated here, because probably errors like these will keep persisting after each update for me...and i really don't think that after the maintenance it will work at all..

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 02:13 AM
i have all those steps still that error apear when i run the launch im w8ting until the server return..... i hope that will fix it

It probably won't since the updates are independent of the servers. There are two possibilities here, first, one of the files in the data directory (under data\win32 in the pso2 directory) are having issues, or secondly there is some kind of problem in the PSO2 settings files in (My) Documents.

To try and figure out what it is, go to (My) Documents, find the SEGA directory and rename it to something else. Then try to run the game again. If the update still fails then you can restore this.

In the case that the update still fails, you would need to reset the permissions on all of the game data files, but there are a lot of them. In this case it would probably be better to just uninstall the game or be subject to the hell of doing stuff from the command prompt. If it still fails, then the updater is downloading corrupt files, which is not good.

DarK-SuN
Jul 20, 2012, 02:25 AM
What's happening is that the "patcher", when patching the files (as in, deleting the old files, copying the new ones and renaming them from "pat" to normal names), it sets the wrong permissions for some users (god knows why it even needs to set permissions to begin with).
If you do it manually like some people have been doing, it's not setting any permissions since it's not the "patcher" doing it, it's you doing it yourself.

Here's a link with a working, non permission borked, launcher for those who can't update the launcher:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2launcher.zip
And here's a link with a working, non permission borked, PSO2.exe for those who have trouble in this second update step:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2exe.zip

I figured uploading these would be nice for the less computer savvy among us who may be afraid of messing stuff up with permission changing stuff (or don't even have access to those permission options depending on their windows account permissions).

redroses
Jul 20, 2012, 02:30 AM
Edit: You are awesome DarK-SuN, that worked for me! Thank you sooo much!

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 02:32 AM
I've used the UnLocker (http://www.emptyloop.com/unlocker/) software to delete the files and then renamed the .BAK files.

DarK-SuN
Jul 20, 2012, 02:34 AM
Glad I could help!

Kinaya
Jul 20, 2012, 02:40 AM
What's happening is that the "patcher", when patching the files (as in, deleting the old files, copying the new ones and renaming them from "pat" to normal names), it sets the wrong permissions for some users (god knows why it even needs to set permissions to begin with).
If you do it manually like some people have been doing, it's not setting any permissions since it's not the "patcher" doing it, it's you doing it yourself.

Here's a link with a working, non permission borked, launcher for those who can't update the launcher:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2launcher.zip
And here's a link with a working, non permission borked, PSO2.exe for those who have trouble in this second update step:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2exe.zip

I figured uploading these would be nice for the less computer savvy among us who may be afraid of messing stuff up with permission changing stuff (or don't even have access to those permission options depending on their windows account permissions).

Ty Sir! Fixed my problem!

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 02:41 AM
What's happening is that the "patcher", when patching the files (as in, deleting the old files, copying the new ones and renaming them from "pat" to normal names), it sets the wrong permissions for some users (god knows why it even needs to set permissions to begin with).
If you do it manually like some people have been doing, it's not setting any permissions since it's not the "patcher" doing it, it's you doing it yourself.

Here's a link with a working, non permission borked, launcher for those who can't update the launcher:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2launcher.zip
And here's a link with a working, non permission borked, PSO2.exe for those who have trouble in this second update step:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2exe.zip

I figured uploading these would be nice for the less computer savvy among us who may be afraid of messing stuff up with permission changing stuff (or don't even have access to those permission options depending on their windows account permissions).

Just to clarify something here, the file permissions aren't actually saved in .zip files and most of the time the problem doesn't even seem to be related to file permissions. I think the issue is that the updater is giving a general "can't access file, make sure that you have permission to write to it".

DarK-SuN
Jul 20, 2012, 02:45 AM
I never said the permissions were saved in the zip, it's done locally, but since they're zipped and copied "with permissions" set correctly, it means they could be zipped (otherwise you wouldn't be able to zip them either since you couldn't access them) and everyone else can use them without the "borked permissions" bug that affects their PC since it wasn't their "patcher" doing the work.

Just doing it to help people. :)

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 02:53 AM
That is the thing, if the original file on the target system had borked permissions to begin with, you wouldn't be able to overwrite the files in the first place. If you did manage it, it would be down to the Windows Vista/7 verison of Explorer oh so helpfully granting you permission with the UAC related stuff.
Also, the zip file format doesn't normally save the NTFS file permissions, if it ever happens, it is an extension and not all zip extracters would read this extra data. What's more, depending on the extractor, it normally either extracts in place (and with the borked file permissions, would fail) or extract to the temp directory and then copy to the target directory. But the Windows copy doesn't copy the file permissions along with the file, it uses what exists in the target directory. Oh, not to mention that with borked permissions, you wouldn't be allowed to write to the file in the first place, and hence you would either get the Explorer UAC prompt (which grants write access for your account, or elevates if you are using a restircted administrator account) or just fail.
My biggest thought on the cause for this is that there is a problem in the PSO2 settings directory in My Documents that is causing all of the problems. It is just that people prefer to just temporarily download and use other people's files because it makes more sense to them.

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 02:57 AM
That is the thing, if the original file on the target system had borked permissions to begin with, you wouldn't be able to overwrite the files in the first place. If you did manage it, it would be down to the Windows Vista/7 verison of Explorer oh so helpfully granting you permission with the UAC related stuff.

Personally, I couldn't, had to use the UnLocker software I mentioned in my earlier post.

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 03:00 AM
Personally, I couldn't, had to use the UnLocker software I mentioned in my earlier post.

Yes, and yours was one of the few cases where the file permissions really was borked. Also, since you are using Windows XP, you don't have the UAC related stuff.
But you had found an alternate way of doing what you needed, and that is important.

Xaeris
Jul 20, 2012, 03:02 AM
Servers are a go.

DarK-SuN
Jul 20, 2012, 03:04 AM
Another friend of mine couldn't either, I had to help her with deleting them, then I sent her my files (the ones in the zip files I made) so that she's able to play.
She's not very tech savvy in that regard, and I figured that like her there's many others, so I uploaded the zip files I made for her and put them here for everyone's convenience.

To note that the few WinXP users that still exist often can't even change file access permissions at all to begin with, so this is also aimed at them since otherwise they'd never be able to fix this problem on their own if they're affected by it unless they know what to look for like Jooozek.

Ana-Chan
Jul 20, 2012, 03:09 AM
And I have no problems with that, I just wanted to clarify something imporant that is all. I guess it is a bad habit because of work.

DarK-SuN
Jul 20, 2012, 03:14 AM
No worries at all, I'm definitely not mad or anything. :)

Arios
Jul 20, 2012, 03:32 AM
What's happening is that the "patcher", when patching the files (as in, deleting the old files, copying the new ones and renaming them from "pat" to normal names), it sets the wrong permissions for some users (god knows why it even needs to set permissions to begin with).
If you do it manually like some people have been doing, it's not setting any permissions since it's not the "patcher" doing it, it's you doing it yourself.

Here's a link with a working, non permission borked, launcher for those who can't update the launcher:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2launcher.zip
And here's a link with a working, non permission borked, PSO2.exe for those who have trouble in this second update step:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2280026/pso2exe.zip

I figured uploading these would be nice for the less computer savvy among us who may be afraid of messing stuff up with permission changing stuff (or don't even have access to those permission options depending on their windows account permissions).

Thank you very much. Worked here =D.

DarK-SuN
Jul 20, 2012, 03:46 AM
You're welcome, glad I could help!