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sibladeko
Jul 20, 2012, 09:25 AM
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=209
You are a shining example to us all.

Yunfa
Jul 20, 2012, 09:29 AM
Oh boy oh boy...

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 09:29 AM
Wait, so the prolonged maintenance was to only prevent this from happening again? Why do I get the feeling that NPCs will be moved in 1 or 2 days?

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 09:31 AM
I'm sorry but this could be a Japanese player you know, so umm yeah don't blame the whole ship2.

BIG OLAF
Jul 20, 2012, 09:33 AM
One guy moves the NPCS = entirety of Ship 2 is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Right.

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 09:35 AM
If you're going to post the japanese website why not, I don't know, give us a summary, so we don't have to go through translating it for those of us who don't know japanese (most of us). That goes for everyone that does this.

Vashyron
Jul 20, 2012, 09:35 AM
I think you mean their marvellous coding is a shining example.

It's absurd how this is even possible in the first place.

Fox2Tails
Jul 20, 2012, 09:45 AM
Why do people insist on making these topics...

Phantasma
Jul 20, 2012, 09:47 AM
LOOOOOOOL!
Translation: So that maintenance meant nothing? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

EDIT: k so the maintenance did mean something...the hackers just found a way around it IMMEDIATELY! lulz

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 09:47 AM
I think you mean their marvellous coding is a shining example.

It's absurd how this is even possible in the first place.Oh please.

Every game has a select group of people that figure out how to cheat/hack/exploit it.

Even the glorious world of warcraft has not been without its insane and absurd hacks that even a normal common person can go out and get.

I once did about 20 minutes of research and was able to find a speed hack, allowing me to win a capture the flag game in less than a minute from the gate opening. I only did it once but I was laughing at the absurdity of it all as I did it.

drizzle
Jul 20, 2012, 09:51 AM
Give them some more attention, it helps.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 10:08 AM
Here's a translation of the website.


That the early morning of July 20 (Fri.), Niokimashite Ship02, cheating to change the position of the NPC has been made ​​has been confirmed again.
In addition, in the ARCS lobby, has also been confirmed some of the techniques used.
Here is a pattern of fraud using the bug is different with the previous part has been done, research is currently supported.
Hacking the server, rather than cracking, etc., will be cheating using the bug.
Impact of information and personal data will not be played by all.
And to strengthen the current monitoring, we provide stop as soon as discovered the fraud account.
Very sorry to trouble you, but if they are also found in everyone, please report your cooperation.
In addition, if misconduct is made, thank you to play with another block.
For bug fixes have been a source of fraud is scheduled to respond as soon as possible.
To apologize to everyone and then apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.


Also I think jp's are smart enough to understand that it's not all the English players are hackers or jerks. So stop making these kind of threads.

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 10:16 AM
One guy moves the NPCS = entirety of Ship 2 is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Right.

No, this is what makes Ship 2 a wretched hive of scum and villiany (NSFW Warning)
[SPOILER-BOX]totally nasty.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

All day every day. And then theres broomop gameshark kiddies on top of that.

Meanwhile, despite playing this game to death since the start of open beta, I have yet to see a single memeshit or pornographic or generally vulgar image chat image on the /vg/ ship or block. Just normal inoffensive stuff like 'Cross Burst!' and "Time to Crash!" for when the pilots crash. And the communities main lobby doesnt even spam symbol chats, its quiet as hell, no retards attention whoring in the public chat channel. Because, you know we're not supposed to really be playing this and we should keep a low profile as to not annoy the japanese community

Funny how the only community for this game that shows universal good manners and maturity is the 4chan one. I'm not even a big 4channer, far from it so its not like i'm trying to talk them up. But jesus christ Ship 2, get your fuckin act together will ya? Just seeing and hearing about Ship 2 makes me pray that the JP client never gets an IP block, because I dont give a damn if Sega of America is toe to toe with Japan with updates, I'll never play the eng version lol. Excuse the french but, that ship is inundated with fuckin troglodytes man. (Yes I know its not all of you, but the decent mature players are a minority and what that says about the english community for this game is horrible)

White Piggu indeed,yikes. People wonder why the west is so disliked. Its because westerners are majority wise fuckin obnoxious lol. And I say that as someone that can't stand weeaboo types...

Laguna
Jul 20, 2012, 10:18 AM
No, this is what makes Ship 2 a wretched hive of scum and villiany (NSFW Warning)
[SPOILER-BOX]totally nasty.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

All day every day. And then theres broomop gameshark kiddies on top of that.

Meanwhile, despite playing this game to death since the start of open beta, I have yet to see a single memeshit or pornographic or generally vulgar image chat image on the /vg/ ship or block. Just normal inoffensive stuff like 'Cross Burst!' and "Time to Crash!" for when the pilots crash. And the communities main lobby doesnt even spam symbol chats, its quiet as hell, no retards attention whoring in the public chat channel. Because, you know we're not supposed to really be playing this and we should keep a low profile as to not annoy the japanese community

Funny how the only community for this game that shows universal good manners and maturity is the 4chan one. I'm not even a big 4channer, far from it so its not like i'm trying to talk them up. But jesus christ Ship 2, get your fuckin act together will ya? Just seeing and hearing about Ship 2 makes me pray that the JP client never gets an IP block, because I dont give a damn if Sega of America is toe to toe with Japan with updates, I'll never play the eng version lol. Excuse the french but, that ship is inundated with fuckin troglodytes man. (Yes I know its not all of you, but the decent mature players are a minority and what that says about the english community for this game is horrible)

White Piggu indeed,yikes. People wonder why the west is so disliked. Its because westerners are majority wise fuckin obnoxious lol. And I say that as someone that can't stand weeaboo types...

Well said.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
No, this is what makes Ship 2 a wretched hive of scum and villiany (NSFW Warning)
[SPOILER-BOX]totally nasty.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

All day every day. And then theres broomop gameshark kiddies on top of that.

Meanwhile, despite playing this game to death since the start of open beta, I have yet to see a single memeshit or pornographic or generally vulgar image chat image on the /vg/ ship or block. Just normal inoffensive stuff like 'Cross Burst!' and "Time to Crash!" for when the pilots crash. And the communities main lobby doesnt even spam symbol chats, its quiet as hell, no retards attention whoring in the public chat channel. Because, you know we're not supposed to really be playing this and we should keep a low profile as to not annoy the japanese community

Funny how the only community for this game that shows universal good manners and maturity is the 4chan one. I'm not even a big 4channer, far from it so its not like i'm trying to talk them up. But jesus christ Ship 2, get your fuckin act together will ya? Just seeing and hearing about Ship 2 makes me pray that the JP client never gets an IP block, because I dont give a damn if Sega of America is toe to toe with Japan with updates, I'll never play the eng version lol. Excuse the french but, that ship is inundated with fuckin troglodytes man. (Yes I know its not all of you, but the decent mature players are a minority and what that says about the english community for this game is horrible)

White Piggu indeed,yikes. People wonder why the west is so disliked. Its because westerners are majority wise fuckin obnoxious lol. And I say that as someone that can't stand weeaboo types...

Yes, very well said.

BIG OLAF
Jul 20, 2012, 10:26 AM
we're not supposed to really be playing this

Everything else you said made sense, but I thought SEGA took the "Japan-only" clause out of their ToS.

EDIT: Also, the 'hackers' and scummers of Block 20 still doesn't make all of Ship 2 a horrible place.

Sayara
Jul 20, 2012, 10:28 AM
They're pretty well aware other countries are in the game now. At least I thought so.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 10:30 AM
Everything else you said made sense, but I thought SEGA took the "Japan-only" clause out of their ToS.

EDIT: Also, the 'hackers' and scummers of Block 20 still doesn't make all of Ship 2 a horrible place.

Okay, what the hell is scummers?

Blastifyys
Jul 20, 2012, 10:32 AM
broomop no stop is one of the wretched hackers

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 10:33 AM
The west is hated?

I DEMAND PROOF. Because I totally hate Martians. One of them hacked so I guess I'll hate all of them, but I'm going to give the bad ones in particular names and popularity because I'm smart.

Man, screw Martians. Why are we even going to their planet?

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 10:35 AM
Okay, well... the West is not hated. Most people in foreign countries do not even care about us enough to hate us, we're not even on their radar. At most, we are an inconvenience, sometimes a loud inconvenience. Your experiences may vary wildly from those on Ship 2, but that doesn't make you above those of us who decide to play there. It's just a game, and we're all individuals regardless of where we play, or whether we play at all.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 10:39 AM
The west is hated?

I DEMAND PROOF. Because I totally hate Martians. One of them hacked so I guess I'll hate all of them, but I'm going to give the bad ones in particular names and popularity because I'm smart.

Man, screw Martians. Why are we even going to their planet?

Well than if you hate my kind I shall hate yours, I hate humans.

Metalsnake27
Jul 20, 2012, 10:42 AM
This is why I'm on Ship 7.

But in any case.... INB4 ANOTHER MAINTENANCE TONIGHT

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 10:42 AM
This is why I'm on Ship 7.

But in any case.... INB4 ANOTHER MAINTENANCE TONIGHT

Ship10 is peaceful too.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 10:45 AM
In all honesty, aside from Block 20, Ship 2 is also peaceful. Even Block 21 is peaceful by comparison. The English community is pretty small in comparison to the Japanese one.

Scale of Judgment
Jul 20, 2012, 10:50 AM
I'm having a blast on Ship 2. People are great from my experience. Sadly the malicious group stand out from the otherwise good citizens of PSO2...

BIG OLAF
Jul 20, 2012, 10:50 AM
In all honesty, aside from Block 20, Ship 2 is also peaceful. Even Block 21 is peaceful by comparison. The English community is pretty small in comparison to the Japanese one.

^This. If you ever get tired of the assholes and morons in Block 20, all you have to do is literally move to any other block. 19, 21, 22, 37, 1, it doesn't matter. 20 is more or less the only one that ever has that immature garbage.

and while I do like being in Block 20 for socializing purposes, sometimes I'll move to 21 or something, just for a more quiet gaming experience.

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 10:53 AM
I can speak to that too, Block 20 really is a different place. 21, 22, and 30 have good English populations and are generally far calmer.

BUT NOPE THE ENTIRE SHIP IS BAD BECAUSE OF LIKE .01% OF ITS POPULATION WHICH ISN'T EVEN ALL "GAIJIN" ANYWAY

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
They're pretty well aware other countries are in the game now. At least I thought so.

They definitely are, but its more the fact that we are only in their japanese servers at their discretion, its already well known that its eng gameshark kiddies doing the lobby moving and crap. These maints are downtime that cost sega money, and they also lose potential cash when and if JP players decide to not bother with the game until the obnoxious portion of the eng community (which sadly on ship 2 is a majority of them) is removed.

In the TOU or not, if this kinda crap keeps up you're gonna be greeted with a IP ban soon enough. The games FTP and its not like Sega got 60 bucks right out the gate from everyone playing. They have literally no vested interest in continuing to allow the very tiny amount of westerners into their servers regardless of if they buy arks cash, if the majority of said westerners are causing downtime for the servers and possibly annoying the japanese community with their lobby idiocy.

It'll especially suck for me because I dont want to be forced to be stuck on the eng version with the apparently hideous eng community, but I see a region IP block to only be a matter of time at this point.


(Btw I guess it wasn't enough that I spoiler box'd and gave a NSFW warning, so someone modified my post. I had posted a screencap I found from the main Ship 2 lobby of symbol chats. Dicks, Maloo dreaming of dicks, and a very explicit 'Emergency Code: Penetration' lol.

I honestly feel sorry for you good players that chose ship 2. If it was me, even if I had invested a ton and had a well geared level 40 character, I would still bail and me and my tiny guild would keep the location of our move a secret and jump ship.

Thankfully this game is easy to play without saying a word, outside of giving a sector location of an event that requires multiparty help (Code destruction, Boss Spawns in the field). 99% of the time I play with pretty much all JP multiparties (not intentionally, its just who happens to show up in the maps) and I just have my F keys mapped to stuff like '/toge VOL DRAGON CODE DUEL AT {red}<pos>!!!' Works just fine.

Whatever pros there are of being on Ship 2 are definitely out weighed by the cons

BIG OLAF
Jul 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
Whatever pros there are of being on Ship 2 are definitely out weighed by the cons

Nope.jpg

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 10:57 AM
> moves to block 21
> all cons resolved!

BIG OLAF
Jul 20, 2012, 10:59 AM
> moves to block 21
> all cons resolved!

Indeed. I think a few people keep getting the terms "Ship 2" and "Block 20" mixed up.

Shakuri
Jul 20, 2012, 11:00 AM
The only thing bad about Ship 2 is the unofficial English blocks (block 20 and the back ups), stay away from those and you're having a good time.

r00tabaga
Jul 20, 2012, 11:07 AM
They definitely are, but its more the fact that we are only in their japanese servers at their discretion, its already well known that its eng gameshark kiddies doing the lobby moving and crap. These maints are downtime that cost sega money, and they also lose potential cash when and if JP players decide to not bother with the game until the obnoxious portion of the eng community (which sadly on ship 2 is a majority of them) is removed.

In the TOU or not, if this kinda crap keeps up you're gonna be greeted with a IP ban soon enough. The games FTP and its not like Sgea got 60 bucks right out the gate from everyone playing. They have literally no vested interest in continuing to allow the very tiny amount of westerners into their servers regardless of if they buy arks cash, if the majority of said westerners are causing downtime for the servers and possibly annoying the japanese community with their lobby idiocy.

It'll especially suck for me because I dont want to be forced to be stuck on the eng version with the apparently hideous eng community, but I see a region IP block to only be a matter of time at this point.


(Btw I guess it wasn't enough that I spoiler box'd and gave a NSFW warning, so someone modified my post. I had posted a screencap I found from the main Ship 2 lobby of symbol chats. Dicks, Maloo dreaming of dicks, and a very explicit 'Emergency Code: Penetration' lol.

I honestly feel sorry for you good players that chose ship 2. If it was me, even if I had invested a ton and had a well geared level 40 character, I would still bail and me and my tiny guild would keep the location of our move a secret and jump ship.

Thankfully this game is easy to play without saying a word, outside of giving a sector location of an event that requires multiparty help (Code destruction, Boss Spawns in the field). 99% of the time I play with pretty much all JP multiparties (not intentionally, its just who happens to show up in the maps) and I just have my F keys mapped to stuff like '/toge VOL DRAGON CODE DUEL AT {red}<pos>!!!' Works just fine.

Whatever pros there are of being on Ship 2 are definitely out weighed by the cons

Sounds like a couple immature punks (yes, prolly Yankees) are ruining it for EVERYONE. I hope they don't piss JP off so much that they pull the plug on our NA version. We definitely aren't gonna see up to date content now!

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 11:11 AM
Sounds like a couple immature punks (yes, prolly Yankees) are ruining it for EVERYONE. I hope they don't piss JP off so much that they pull the plug on our NA versuo

They won't stop the release of NA for hackers on their name or idiots on their game. If they do so the idiots will still be on "their version of the game" and I bet they won't want cause I hope you know mostly all the idiots and a nice number of mature people are going to the NA version when it's released, like I am.(But I'm not an idiot.)

Yexes
Jul 20, 2012, 11:11 AM
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=209
You are a shining example to us all.

I try my hardest, keep an eye out for me. ;)

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 11:12 AM
The only thing bad about Ship 2 is the unofficial English blocks (block 20 and the back ups), stay away from those and you're having a good time.I honestly don't see the issue, even with block 20.

When the locks opened up I rolled from Ship 10/6 to Ship 2, I play pretty much specifically on block 20, occasionally 21 when it's full, and I have had zero regrets with my experience. There's a boat load of people on at almost every hour (that the server is online), and everyone I've played with has been nice. It's literally like a US release game, you almost rarely even see JP people in those blocks.

Yes, I've seen "Broomop no stop" in the lobby speed hacking, but honestly? It's so easy to ignore him so I don't really give a hell. Until FSOD becomes an issue, he could spawn rainbows and unicorns for all I care.

I can maybe count on one hand how many different 'inappropriate' symbol chats I've seen, but they don't bother me, if anything I look at them as artistic, I mean, the effort someone had to go through to create such a vivid image...some people are just so creative (that goes for all the impressive symbol chats I've seen).

To summarize, people like Gamer-X, are way overboard generalizing. Playing on Ship 2 is honestly no different than playing on Ship 10 or 7 or 6 or whatever, the only difference is that there's a plethora more potential friends to make. With a bigger potential there, there's a bigger potential to run in to more fuck-wits. That's just how the world works. In my opinion, you'd wise up to move there, that is, if you can handle it. Otherwise, go ahead, keep overtly trying to justify why you're so hipster for picking an "off" ship.

iTz PooKiie xx
Jul 20, 2012, 11:17 AM
I love reading this websites posts<3

Not everyone is bad on ship 20 ppl. Ppl from (jp psu including myself) are used to playing with the Japanese and know the ethics of playing on their servers.

I just wished all the hacking to stop and the US/EU servers to come out.( to take all the 4th floor trash away).

Zipzo has it right:)

Akaimizu
Jul 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
The problem with IP blocking is that they'd only block the legit players. The ones hacking their ship will be among those unaffected by IP blocking and I think SEGA knows that.

Besides, the ill-tempered or mean people always yell loudest. Good players just play the game, of course they don't have a big equivalent to improve the image with. There never was a reasonable counter for bad players. Because good players do good cooperation and news of their deeds travel silently.

Yexes
Jul 20, 2012, 11:22 AM
I honestly don't see the issue, even with block 20.

When the locks opened up I rolled from Ship 10/6 to Ship 2, I play pretty much specifically on block 20, occasionally 21 when it's full, and I have had zero regrets with my experience. There's a boat load of people on at almost every hour (that the server is online), and everyone I've played with has been nice. It's literally like a US release game, you almost rarely even see JP people in those blocks.

Yes, I've seen "Broomop no stop" in the lobby speed hacking, but honestly? It's so easy to ignore him so I don't really give a hell. Until FSOD becomes an issue, he could spawn rainbows and unicorns for all I care.

I can maybe count on one hand how many different 'inappropriate' symbol chats I've seen, but they don't bother me, if anything I look at them as artistic, I mean, the effort someone had to go through to create such a vivid image...some people are just so creative (that goes for all the impressive symbol chats I've seen).

To summarize, people like Gamer-X, are way overboard generalizing. Playing on Ship 2 is honestly no different than playing on Ship 10 or 7 or 6 or whatever, the only difference is that there's a plethora more potential friends to make. With a bigger potential there, there's a bigger potential to run in to more fuck-wits. That's just how the world works. In my opinion, you'd wise up to move there, that is, if you can handle it. Otherwise, go ahead, keep overtly trying to justify why you're so hipster for picking an "off" ship.
It's not different, but there's a difference? OH GOD MAKE UP YOUR MIND

Tenlade
Jul 20, 2012, 11:22 AM
One guy moves the NPCS = entirety of Ship 2 is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Right.

But they aren't letting them play their video game!!!!!

Death to all the twos, put them in concentration camps.

Halcyote
Jul 20, 2012, 11:23 AM
how to start drama (pso2 edition)

>namecheck ship 2 "hacks"
>bring in supposed xenophobia/nationalistic arguments
>western = yankees!!!!!!!!1111
>tons of hyperbolic statements

par for the course. can we lock this crap thread now?

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
Yes, I've seen "Broomop no stop" in the lobby speed hacking, but honestly? It's so easy to ignore him so I don't really give a hell. Until FSOD becomes an issue, he could spawn rainbows and unicorns for all I care.
How you beat hackers, right here folks. Stop giving them names and stop even paying attention to their cosmetic stuff. They LOVE that it's getting a rise out of people like this, it's so easy for then it isn't even funny. So easy but so easily preventable if people would think before acting a bit.

Don't feed the fires they leave. That's the only thing giving Ship 02 a bad name.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
o hay no, we gots to be mad up in he'ya

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 11:30 AM
I honestly don't see the issue, even with block 20.

When the locks opened up I rolled from Ship 10/6 to Ship 2, I play pretty much specifically on block 20, occasionally 21 when it's full, and I have had zero regrets with my experience. There's a boat load of people on at almost every hour (that the server is online), and everyone I've played with has been nice. It's literally like a US release game, you almost rarely even see JP people in those blocks.

Yes, I've seen "Broomop no stop" in the lobby speed hacking in the lobby, but honestly? It's so easy to ignore him so I don't really give a hell. Until FSOD becomes an issue, he could spawn rainbows and unicorns for all I care.

I can maybe count on one hand how many different 'inappropriate' symbol chats I've seen, but they don't bother me, if anything I look at them as artistic, I mean, the effort someone had to go through to create such a vivid image...some people are just so creative (that goes for all the impressive symbol chats I've seen).

To summarize, people like Gamer-X, are way overboard generalizing. Playing on Ship 2 is honestly no different than playing on Ship 10 or 7 or 6 or whatever, the only difference is that there's a plethora more potential friends to make. With a bigger potential there, there's a bigger potential to run in to more fuck-wits. That's just how the world works. In my opinion, you'd wise up to move there, that is, if you can handle it. Otherwise, go ahead, keep overtly trying to justify why you're so hipster for picking an "off" ship.

I think the issue flew right over your head

English players being gameshark kiddies = Server downtime = Sega getting 0 money during that time from ALL possible players that buy things, as well as lost potential future sales if japanese players start feeling the game has too many maints and quit to go play a game with better uptime

English players being obnoxious little shits in lobbies = some Japanese players possibly getting turned off to the game and leaving = Again lost microtransactions cash for Sega


It doesn't matter if YOU can put up with it, or if it bothers you or not. If the faggotry portion of the Eng community keeps it up with these retard antics, SOJ is just gonna take the easy solution route and region IP block the game. Honest to god i'm totally surprised that they haven't done so already.

And uh theres nothing 'hipster' about choosing a ship that is 100% decent players, instead of choosing a ship that is 50% retards. The /vg/ community has 2 guilds that have maxed the 100 member capacity, and more eng players on top of that. I have plenty of people to play with (I built a guild for people from the gaming stream community we all frequented, so its moot how many other eng players are on the ship anyway, we picked /vg/s ship because its the only one not full of reddit,tumblr and other morons and its literally all chill bros. Thankfully the BR players chose ship 6). The fact that you need thousands of eng speaking players just to find some friends and people to play with just further shows how much the ship 2 community overall sucks. Sorry dude lol

Thermalwolf
Jul 20, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sad people are still doing this... But I have to agree that this could be very well from a Japanese player. Confirmed the firsts were english, now others are following suit, as to what nationality is still debatable. Oh and Hi Liana :D

RocSage
Jul 20, 2012, 11:32 AM
Of course blame the hackers and not SEGA for making it so easy to hack

Cyclon
Jul 20, 2012, 11:36 AM
This clearly isn't going to end well.

Blackheart521
Jul 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
Regardless... Ship 2 Block 20 is like the ghetto area of our ship... sure it has it's flaws, but it's part of our ship, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna abandon ship because of that! ^^;

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 11:38 AM
The problem with IP blocking is that they'd only block the legit players. The ones hacking their ship will be among those unaffected by IP blocking and I think SEGA knows that.

Besides, the ill-tempered or mean people always yell loudest. Good players just play the game, of course they don't have a big equivalent to improve the image with. There never was a reasonable counter for bad players. Because good players do good cooperation and news of their deeds travel silently.


I wish people would stop using the term 'hacking'. They aren't hackers, its the pc equivalent of children with gamesharks


Even if the kids using cheat code progs had VPNs or something, they would leave if the eng community got banned. Why? Because you guys are the only people that give them so much attention. You make topics about them, you make them feel famous

Meanwhile the JP players just quietly chuckle to themselves, change blocks and use the wicked user form and do not speak of it, since its against the TOS to post about it anyway

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 11:38 AM
It's not different, but there's a difference? OH GOD MAKE UP YOUR MIND
Reading comprehension must not be your forte

Playing on Ship 2 is honestly no different than playing on Ship 10 or 7 or 6 or whatever, the only difference is that there's a plethora more potential friends to make.
As in, the game play does not change. The social environment does, however.

Crysteon
Jul 20, 2012, 11:38 AM
<overreaction>
All baka gaijins must be banned!
</overreaction>

The best solution to this is to ignore those script kiddie pricks and change block. Stick with your team mates, if you are member of one, and play in different blocks than 20. I swear some people's minds are rotten enough to think block 20 is the only place where you can play with english speaking players :/

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 11:41 AM
I wish people would stop using the term 'hacking'. They aren't hackers, its the pc equivalent of children with gamesharks


Even if the kids using cheat code progs had VPNs or something, they would leave if the eng community got banned. Why? Because you guys are the only people that give them so much attention. You make topics about them, you make them feel famous

Meanwhile the JP players just quietly chuckle to themselves, change blocks and use the wicked user form and do not speak of it, since its against the TOS to post about it anyway
I'd reckon you are giving them more attention than we do on Ship 2. On ship 2 I've noticed people are generally great at completely ignoring broomop when he's in the lobby talking and trying to get attention.

Look at you though, claiming that IP bans will rain down upon us if the entirety of Ship 2 doesn't cease to Gameshark the shit out of the game. I can probably count on a couple of fingers how many people are responsible for the mischief that has transpired so far, and look at you, making grandiose claims about the whole of the ship being at fault.

So check yourself.

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 11:42 AM
Of course blame the hackers and not SEGA for making it so easy to hack

Well I personally do partially blame Sega, though the blame falls more on GameGuard as the only reason anyone can even use stupid codes is because GameGuard has not patched a very specific, and well known by now loophole with certain OS's.

All they gotta do is tell the gameguard folks to patch the thing and that'll be the end of any stupid crap in PSO2

Gardios
Jul 20, 2012, 11:42 AM
I still don't understand why NPC dialoue is server-side, but apparently NPCs are partly client-side? It doesn't even make sense to do it like this.

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 11:45 AM
So uh...what's even the point of this "Ship 02 sucks" argument? Making us all flip a bitch and bail to other ships or something? What do you want us to do, suddenly agree and say Ship 02 "sucks"? Okay, so then what, everything goes back to exactly the way it was before? WELL GEE

I just don't get the point in all the effort some people spend into their vitriolic hatred of Ship 02, a place they ALREADY CLAIM THEY DON'T EVEN PLAY ON, which totally makes them qualified to speak about the entire server because of an example of like 2-3 hackers and a screenshot they saw once. Are we supposed to join your side because you threw out some conjectural and assumed logic at best? Good luck with that when you keep saying "our community sucks" when you're a PSOW member yourself.

Just seems like you're wasting your time trying to convince yourself of your own argument more than anything. For speaking out against "immaturity", all I'm seeing is a bunch of "ur community sux lol" thrown around and nothing but self-defense from players on the eeeeevil Ship 02.

Blastifyys
Jul 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
i agree i don't see the problem and i just moved too ship 2 2 days ago i play peacefully with English players

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
So uh...what's even the point of this "Ship 02 sucks" argument? Making us all flip a bitch and bail to other ships or something? What do you want us to do, suddenly agree and say Ship 02 "sucks"? Okay, so then what, everything goes back to exactly the way it was before? WELL GEE

I just don't get the point in all the effort some people spend into their vitriolic hatred of Ship 02, a place they ALREADY CLAIM THEY DON'T EVEN PLAY ON, which totally makes them qualified to speak about the entire server because of an example of like 2-3 hackers and a screenshot they saw once. Are we supposed to join your side because you threw out some conjectural and assumed logic at best? Good luck with that when you keep saying "our community sucks" when you're a PSOW member yourself.

Just seems like you're wasting your time trying to convince yourself of your own argument more than anything. For speaking out against "immaturity", all I'm seeing is a bunch of "ur community sux lol" thrown around and nothing but self-defense from players on the eeeeevil Ship 02.It's as I said.

Passive attempt to justify their hipster choice of not rolling on Ship 2. They need to feel better about the fact they didn't roll on the "popular" server so they make it out to look like a monster so that they feel validated in their un-wise choice (unless of course they're completely enjoying themselves on their off-ship with friends and what not). Having been on multiple Ships at this point though, there's absolutely no question that Ship 2 is the purest "english community" experience you will find on JP PSO2's servers. That comes with the good and the bad.

Shakuri
Jul 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
So uh...what's even the point of this "Ship 02 sucks" argument?

It's just an easy target to get on a high horse about is all.

Vintasticvin
Jul 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
I think Im gonna give up pso2.... too many "maintenances" cause the lil mischief makers wont stop shitting on tthe game and psow makes 4chan look like .

MysticSerenity
Jul 20, 2012, 12:23 PM
Is what they're doing really that much of a problem? I was playing pretty much all day and didn't notice the npcs were moved. Then again I spend most of my time "playing" the game instead of sitting in the lobby.

Totori
Jul 20, 2012, 12:28 PM
Well no, they aren't too much of a problem, but they are causing SEGA to enter longer maintence. Also we do have a few rule breakers in block 20, sitting outside the window, hopefully my report will do something about them.

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 12:34 PM
The NPCs moving caused 1 (one) maintenance, blame Sega's servers for the others. Can't we even direct our e-rage correctly?

Blackheart521
Jul 20, 2012, 12:35 PM
Well no, they aren't too much of a problem, but they are causing SEGA to enter longer maintence. Also we do have a few rule breakers in block 20, sitting outside the window, hopefully my report will do something about them.

Some of the people who are "sitting outside of windows" aren't the ones hacking, they are actually somehow moved by the hackers... so people who are outside the windows server side are actually inside dancing, sitting still, etc. on their client and are just made to look like hackers, so I wouldn't be too hasty on reporting them, could end up getting some innocent people banned.

Vashyron
Jul 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
Oh please.

Every game has a select group of people that figure out how to cheat/hack/exploit it.

Even the glorious world of warcraft has not been without its insane and absurd hacks that even a normal common person can go out and get.

I once did about 20 minutes of research and was able to find a speed hack, allowing me to win a capture the flag game in less than a minute from the gate opening. I only did it once but I was laughing at the absurdity of it all as I did it.

Of course other companies also leave stupid exploitable holes around, that still doesn't make it any less absurd on what happened here, though it is not a huge surprise considering the past exploits in PS games.

Doesn't help they already tried to fix it once before.


Also we do have a few rule breakers in block 20, sitting outside the window, hopefully my report will do something about them.

Fyi, the same NPC exploit can be used to move players around as long as they don't move. (They don't see themselves outside the window either.)

La'Haryl
Jul 20, 2012, 12:43 PM
As soon as they find out who did it? It was Broomop. He posted the picture on infamousgamerz website yesterday.
[spoiler-box]
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ft.trillian.im/broomop/69hiqtjih-8GHbOpLRKl.jpg
[/spoiler-box]

sugarFO
Jul 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
Lol so are we going to get called to the principals office? Are you gonna call my mother?????

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 12:49 PM
Lol so are we going to get called to the principals office? Are you gonna call my mother?????Our mothers were already there using a script compiler and sniffing packets.

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
I've never heard of a "Broo mop".

I prefer Swiffer myself.

(seriously, people, stop)

Kazzi
Jul 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
Yeah ok, blame the entirety of ship 2 for a few peoples actions. Doesn't make you sound ignorant at all.

Totori
Jul 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
Alright thanks for that message, now I won't be so hasty to look around like eariler. So the exploit can move anything and anyone, that kinda sucks.

Genji
Jul 20, 2012, 12:54 PM
Lol so are we going to get called to the principals office? Are you gonna call my mother?????

Probably get left in an abandoned Arks ship and forced to work together to deflect an incoming darker attack.

La'Haryl
Jul 20, 2012, 12:55 PM
7 Level 20-30 plus players on ship 9 got their accounts banned simply because someone MOVED THEM (they didn't cheat/exploit) and they were caught outside of the window. This is pretty much PSO2 Terrorism because people can get banned and they don't even have to be the one's cheating. I wouldn't sit around in lobbies if I were you.

Kazzi
Jul 20, 2012, 12:57 PM
7 Level 20-30 plus players on ship 9 got their accounts banned simply because someone MOVED THEM (they didn't cheat/exploit) and they were caught outside of the window. This is pretty much PSO2 Terrorism because people can get banned and they don't even have to be the one's cheating. I wouldn't sit around in lobbies if I were you.

If someone moves you, you either log out or move blocks. If you stand there dancing behind the window you're asking to be banned.

Though they can appeal on the support form if they explain the situation.

Vashyron
Jul 20, 2012, 12:59 PM
If someone moves you, you either log out or move blocks. If you stand there dancing behind the window you're asking to be banned.

Though they can appeal on the support form if they explain the situation.

Again, you do not see yourself being moved.

Kazzi
Jul 20, 2012, 01:03 PM
Again, you do not see yourself being moved.

Some of the people i saw in block 20 claimed someone else moved them when they were outside the window as an excuse. I assumed they could because of that, so my bad, sorry!

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 01:05 PM
7 Level 20-30 plus players on ship 9 got their accounts banned simply because someone MOVED THEM (they didn't cheat/exploit) and they were caught outside of the window. This is pretty much PSO2 Terrorism because people can get banned and they don't even have to be the one's cheating. I wouldn't sit around in lobbies if I were you.

Count me among them. Got put outside just now, disconnected, banned.

Meh, 300 hours. I was getting burnt out anyway I won't appeal it.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 01:11 PM
I have a picture of someone being moved I'll post it in alittle.

Edit: here it is, I find it humorous but, that's just me anyways lemme explain OMEGA is not dancing whatsoever and he is inside to him but to everyone else he's right where is in the picture.
[spoiler-box]http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o513/uchitoru1/pso2/pso20120720_135657_000.jpg[/spoiler-box]

La'Haryl
Jul 20, 2012, 01:12 PM
I'm just glad this isn't going on on ship 7. Probably the only safe Western/NA community. Valhalla Knights alone has around 60 members and we're not the only English team on this ship

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 01:23 PM
I have a picture of someone being moved I'll post it in alittle.

Edit: here it is, I find it humorous but, that's just me anyways lemme explain OMEGA is not dancing whatsoever and he is inside to him but to everyone else he's right where is in the picture.
[spoiler-box]http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o513/uchitoru1/pso2/pso20120720_135657_000.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Yeah I was sitting next to Arrcs who told me I was outside. Just my luck they'd do it just as someone from Sega was watching, eh. :rolleyes:
So, uh, yeah. Be careful if you're going to sit around in the lobby and idle/chat/whatever on ship 2.

EDIT: Dem final moments.

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/W1Mkx.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/wxuhf.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 01:31 PM
Yeah I was sitting next to Arrcs who told me I was outside. Just my luck they'd do it just as someone from Sega was watching, eh. :rolleyes:
So, uh, yeah. Be careful if you're going to sit around in the lobby and idle/chat/whatever on ship 2.

EDIT: Dem final moments.

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/W1Mkx.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/wxuhf.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Wait you were banned or something?

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 01:34 PM
Wait you were banned or something?

Apparently.

jooozek
Jul 20, 2012, 01:35 PM
Appeal it already, seriously. They need to take notice that they banned people for no reason.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 01:38 PM
Apparently.

Hmm, now that I think about if what if...

It's a jp player hacking to make it look like you're hacking to get you banned, because think about it you were spamming cast supremacy before you started going outside wouldn't surpise me if this is what actually is happening than the hacker reports you to Sega to make you look like you're hacking, so you're out of the picture and the hacker gets away without being suspected.

But, that's just my thought.

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
spamming cast supremacy

Woah there. 5-6 times perhaps. ^^;

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 01:43 PM
Woah there. 5-6 times perhaps. ^^;

Yes, anything more than three is spam.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 01:45 PM
It surprises me that Sega doesn't seem to understand that the people being moved outside aren't the problem.

jOhMG
Jul 20, 2012, 01:49 PM
Hmm, now that I think about if what if...

It's a jp player hacking to make it look like you're hacking to get you banned, because think about it you were spamming cast supremacy before you started going outside wouldn't surpise me if this is what actually is happening than the hacker reports you to Sega to make you look like you're hacking, so you're out of the picture and the hacker gets away without being suspected.

But, that's just my thought.

If this is the case then that individual is hands down the best troll that has ever surfaced on the face of the internet. It's a very unique way to get back at the more obnoxious players or just random people in general.

GoldenFalcon
Jul 20, 2012, 01:50 PM
Or SoJ is joining forces with the non-Gaijin hackers to disperse the Gaijin menace.

..Naah

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 01:51 PM
Yes, anything more than three is spam.

Then the majority of ship 2 is doomed it seems.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 01:55 PM
Then the majority of ship 2 is doomed it seems.

The majority I don't care what happens to them honestly. Not to sound rude but, this will get idiots like the majority of ship 2 off and that will be fine.

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 02:01 PM
The majority I don't care what happens to them honestly. Not to sound rude but, this will get idiots like the majority of ship 2 off and that will be fine.

That's harsh. Most of the people I've met and played with on ship 2 seem friendly enough.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 02:10 PM
That's harsh. Most of the people I've met and played with on ship 2 seem friendly enough.

A bit harsh but, really they get on and sit there and don't even do anything really. They miss out of all the real fun running missions really.

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 02:18 PM
>Ship 2 english players in lobbys making spectacles of themselves in the public chat channel and afk lobby dancing wasting block space for people who could be playing
>Ship 2 english gamesharker moves them outside the window for fun
>Japanese user annoyed with english players that clog up public chat with stupidity instead of using whisper and guild chat, and afk lobby dancing taking up block space, takes down their info and screen shot to get them banned


I wish I could be upset about this but thats just hilarious hahaha. Natural selection at work! I'm sorry but thats a glorious little ecosystem at work there lol

kkow
Jul 20, 2012, 02:35 PM
so we've been forced through 2 emergency maints just for this? Glad I picked a different ship. And I hate to say it but you don't see japanese players chat spam, lobby spam, or pull such pranks day after day... japanese outnumber us and its still only the english blocks that pull shit like this. My condolences to the rest of you decent folks on those ships.

Shakuri
Jul 20, 2012, 02:42 PM
hi horsin all ^ in dis shiz xD

Hayde
Jul 20, 2012, 02:51 PM
>Ship 2 english players in lobbys making spectacles of themselves in the public chat channel and afk lobby dancing wasting block space for people who could be playing
>Ship 2 english gamesharker moves them outside the window for fun
>Japanese user annoyed with english players that clog up public chat with stupidity instead of using whisper and guild chat, and afk lobby dancing taking up block space, takes down their info and screen shot to get them banned


I wish I could be upset about this but thats just hilarious hahaha. Natural selection at work! I'm sorry but thats a glorious little ecosystem at work there lol

So basically...what you're saying is a group of us has become the "jajaja" Brazilians of WoW that most of the American population in that game hated so much...

(Note: while my message for all intents and purposes of this discussion be "offensive", I personally have nothing against Brazilians or anyone from South America.)

Enforcer MKV
Jul 20, 2012, 03:14 PM
So basically...what you're saying is a group of us has become the "jajaja" Brazilians of WoW that most of the American population in that game hated so much...

(Note: while my message for all intents and purposes of this discussion be "offensive", I personally have nothing against Brazilians or anyone from South America.)

I played WoW from Vanilla all the way up until Cata, And I 'still' don't know what the heck everyone is saying about this.

Anyway, Block 20 =/= All of Ship 2. And for pity's sake, observe the mannerisms of the Japanese and be respectful of them if you're going to play on their servers. We're guests, we should act like it.

EvilMag
Jul 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
11 years later and Sega still has problems with script kiddies...

Totori
Jul 20, 2012, 03:47 PM
Every online game is gonna have it's share of hackers.

EvilMag
Jul 20, 2012, 03:51 PM
Does every game have shit like this and they need to keep taking the server down and yet these "hackers" can still move the NPCs? No they don't.

While other games did have "hackers" at least the company behind those games easily fixes this. You'd think after what, 3 or more times Sega took down the server to stop this they would fix this exploit?

mctastee
Jul 20, 2012, 03:52 PM
No, this is what makes Ship 2 a wretched hive of scum and villiany (NSFW Warning)
[SPOILER-BOX]totally nasty.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

All day every day. And then theres broomop gameshark kiddies on top of that.

Meanwhile, despite playing this game to death since the start of open beta, I have yet to see a single memeshit or pornographic or generally vulgar image chat image on the /vg/ ship or block. Just normal inoffensive stuff like 'Cross Burst!' and "Time to Crash!" for when the pilots crash. And the communities main lobby doesnt even spam symbol chats, its quiet as hell, no retards attention whoring in the public chat channel. Because, you know we're not supposed to really be playing this and we should keep a low profile as to not annoy the japanese community

Funny how the only community for this game that shows universal good manners and maturity is the 4chan one. I'm not even a big 4channer, far from it so its not like i'm trying to talk them up. But jesus christ Ship 2, get your fuckin act together will ya? Just seeing and hearing about Ship 2 makes me pray that the JP client never gets an IP block, because I dont give a damn if Sega of America is toe to toe with Japan with updates, I'll never play the eng version lol. Excuse the french but, that ship is inundated with fuckin troglodytes man. (Yes I know its not all of you, but the decent mature players are a minority and what that says about the english community for this game is horrible)

White Piggu indeed,yikes. People wonder why the west is so disliked. Its because westerners are majority wise fuckin obnoxious lol. And I say that as someone that can't stand weeaboo types...

As much as I agree with you, it's not like anyone can do anything about it. What can we do? Find the person who is hacking and tell them to stop? Sure we can report them, but that's about all we can do. You shouldn't act like all of the english people on ship 2 should take responsibility. Also, a piece of advice for you, if you want people to take you seriously, you shouldn't use lol as a punctuation mark.

Zipzo
Jul 20, 2012, 03:52 PM
Does every game have shit like this and they need to keep taking the server down and yet these "hackers" can still move the NPCs? No they don't.

While other games did have "hackers" at least the company behind those games easily fixes this. You'd think after what, 3 or more times Sega took down the server to stop this they would fix this exploit?You're delusional.

EvilMag
Jul 20, 2012, 03:53 PM
You're delusional.

lol and you're pretty mad. :)

Come up with a better argument next time.

Lostbob117
Jul 20, 2012, 03:55 PM
Does every game have shit like this and they need to keep taking the server down and yet these "hackers" can still move the NPCs? No they don't.

While other games did have "hackers" at least the company behind those games easily fixes this. You'd think after what, 3 or more times Sega took down the server to stop this they would fix this exploit?

When the servers go down that's cause someone wonders what the server power button does, and as you can guess press's it and bam! Why it takes long time to back on online? Sega is trying to figure out how to get it online.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8h9HyoZAa4

That video can work with Sega.

I'm just kidding by the way. Well atleast about Sega of Japan not America.

ps0k1d
Jul 20, 2012, 03:56 PM
That's harsh. Most of the people I've met and played with on ship 2 seem friendly enough.

OMEGA!? You got banned cuz some hacker pushed you outside? Man that's messed up. I would appeal it asap.

Totori
Jul 20, 2012, 04:01 PM
Does every game have shit like this and they need to keep taking the server down and yet these "hackers" can still move the NPCs? No they don't.

While other games did have "hackers" at least the company behind those games easily fixes this. You'd think after what, 3 or more times Sega took down the server to stop this they would fix this exploit?.

Check up FF11, they had and still do these problems. Every game does, you just don't know because you don't check.

EvilMag
Jul 20, 2012, 04:02 PM
Check up FF11, they had and still do these problems. Every game does, you just don't know because you don't check.

So FF11 = Every game?

Also FF11 is almost a 10 year old of course it still gonna have issues. PSO2 is a brand new game and yet Sega haven't learn anything from the "hacking" in PSU

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 04:17 PM
You clearly don't know much about software development if you think a game at launch should be completely hack-proof.

Give any person or company an amount of time with a piece of software and someone *will* figure something out. Moving NPCs isn't even that big of a thing, you should be more thankful nobody has figured out how to gank account data.

It's still on Sega to figure out a solution and resolve it, but you're going up against people and companies that have infinite amounts of time. It's going to happen, and fortunately these have been minor.

Freshellent
Jul 20, 2012, 04:23 PM
As fux'd as this whole thing is, and how much I said I wouldn't really comment on the issue anymore, I'm still comforted in the fact that they are even doing anything in the first place about it. It's far worse when the devs just try to ignore it and pretend to the player base like it's not there and lie about it.

Yes, this hella sucks, but at least there's some effort being put forward.

EvilMag
Jul 20, 2012, 04:24 PM
I'm really hoping Sega will fix it but judging from how they barely fight against hacking these past 11 years...

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 04:33 PM
OMEGA!? You got banned cuz some hacker pushed you outside? Man that's messed up. I would appeal it asap.

Yeah I thought about it but it would be a google translated mess. Anything written in English would probably be ignored. Really though it's not a big deal. I won't lie, I was disappointed at first but if I get the itch to play again I can always make another account.

Gamer-X, I really don't understand your grudge against people on ship 2. You're here, GFAQS and most likely 4chan (judging by the way you post) bashing anyone who plays there. What gives man? :-?

mctastee
Jul 20, 2012, 04:36 PM
Of course blame the hackers and not SEGA for making it so easy to hack
Sarcasm or not, this is easily the dumbest post in this discussion.

Vintasticvin
Jul 20, 2012, 04:38 PM
Yeah I thought about it but it would be a google translated mess. Anything written in English would probably be ignored. Really though it's not a big deal. I won't lie, I was disappointed at first but if I get the itch to play again I can always make another account.

Gamer-X, I really don't understand your grudge against people on ship 2. You're here, GFAQS and most likely 4chan (judging by the way you post) bashing anyone who plays there. What gives man? :-?

4Chan is on ship 4... And its sad these whack jobs are making the people on ship 2 look bad :( the Nippon there are probably chanting "White piggu goa hoam!!"

GrieverXVII
Jul 20, 2012, 04:38 PM
OMEGA!? You got banned cuz some hacker pushed you outside? Man that's messed up. I would appeal it asap.

Lol if only they did this to all the afk dancers and emote spammers, i think they'd be doing everyone a favor.
/awaiting flame

Reyva
Jul 20, 2012, 04:39 PM
Ship 2 sucks....

Everyone is dancing on all blocks
Everyone is either putting up racist or inappropriate symbol chat
Everyone is being unoriginal with their symbol chat by copying others thus is boring seeing the same ol thing every day.
Everyone is complaining about NPCs in party on Ship 2
Everyone on Ship 2 is the elitist group
Everyone is saying racist or inappropriate things in the lobby area
Everyone is just sitting there! Jeeze, move why don't ya!
Everyone on Ship 2 loves when Broomop or someone else moves the NPCs
Everyone on Ship 2 are just moody sobs that need to get laid
Everyone on Ship 2 wants PSE/Crossbursts for 24 hrs
Everyone on Ship 2 just loves to sit and look at player shops

But thats just fine lol. Does it look like I want to re-level a cast hunter to 40, newman force to 40, and my upcoming cast female ranger to 40 just because of what people say or how I feel about ship 2, block 20 or any block? However, one thing is for sure, I'm still not going to take the NA version seriously and will just keep playing the JP one mostly since Sega has already striked out with me way too many times.

P.S For the serious idiots on here, do note my sarcasm in some of the above lines. Yes its the internet and sarcasm by text is hard when idiots think you're actually being serious

However, I got to be real with ya, but some of you do need to stop copying others and get some new symbol chat. Cuz that crap I see in lobbies now is still the same ol tired crap I've seen days or weeks ago. Its just like now with that stupid cat symbol chat. One guy did it and now everyone copied him.

Kirukia
Jul 20, 2012, 04:42 PM
ITT: People confuse Block 20 with all of Ship 2.

But really, above comment. I think some people actually believe that.

gigawuts
Jul 20, 2012, 04:42 PM
I'm on ship 2. I manage to find people playing the game just fine. I don't like spam any more than the next guy, but honestly it's not a big deal. Most of you guys are overreacting.

GrieverXVII
Jul 20, 2012, 04:43 PM
I'm on ship 2. I manage to find people playing the game just fine. I don't like spam any more than the next guy, but honestly it's not a big deal. Most of you guys are overreacting.

Would agree with this very much :)

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 04:53 PM
"My server is better because I'm used to it! Your server sucks, profligate!"

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 04:55 PM
Its just like now with that stupid cat symbol chat. One guy did it and now everyone copied him.

"I CAT BELIEVE IT!" :-P


Lol if only they did this to all the afk dancers and emote spammers, i think they'd be doing everyone a favor.
/awaiting flame

I didn't dance in the lobby. Even if I were standing in my usual spot, by the transport gate, I'm usually talking to someone or listening to others. Honestly though, what's it to you? Why do you care what other players are doing with their time? :-?

I'll let you in on a little secret regarding spammers: There's a blacklist function. Amazing, I know!

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 04:56 PM
Yeah I thought about it but it would be a google translated mess. Anything written in English would probably be ignored. Really though it's not a big deal. I won't lie, I was disappointed at first but if I get the itch to play again I can always make another account.

Gamer-X, I really don't understand your grudge against people on ship 2. You're here, GFAQS and most likely 4chan (judging by the way you post) bashing anyone who plays there. What gives man? :-?

I already said I know it's not all of you. But uh you guys decided to stay on that ship after le reddit and tumblr memeshit communties decided to infest it. Thats like opting to not have vital surgery after being told you have cancer. Once open beta was rolling around you guys had to of known tons of non pso-w idiots were clogging up your ship, It would of made alot more sense to just move to another ship and keep the new ship choice on the downlow with the community and leave the morons to rot on ship 2

The best part of the /vg/ ship is that the idiots of the eng community (pretty much all reddit and tumblr kids) automatically assume that the 4chan community must be the worst and they know the /vg/ community will immediately blacklist them outright if they show their faces with their stupid behavior, so they default to ship 2 or 10 instead. This is one time that 4chans bad rep has paid off amazingly good lol.

CelestialBlade
Jul 20, 2012, 05:01 PM
You're still here?

You're not convincing anyone, it's just outright trolling now.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
I hear it's everyone in America's fault that Detroit is a crappy city.

GrieverXVII
Jul 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
"I CAT BELIEVE IT!" :-P



I didn't dance in the lobby. Even if I were standing in my usual spot, by the transport gate, I'm usually talking to someone or listening to others. Honestly though, what's it to you? Why do you care what other players are doing with their time? :-?

I'll let you in on a little secret regarding spammers: There's a blacklist function. Amazing, I know!

Calm down...i understand your situation. I was just making light of it...
I'm sure it'll be resolved.

Wolfgrey666
Jul 20, 2012, 05:03 PM
There is plenty of douches out there sure, but most of ship 2 is just fine. Block 20-22 is where the most of this crap is.

That being said it is rather annoying that these hacks/cheats/exploits are causing maint.This game has already more maint than any other game i have played in it's release window.

And for some people's info here, WoW, FF11, and PSO2 all have really crappy security. Getting hacked 4 times in 3 months or WoW, 5 times on FF11, and dealing with what we have here is proof enough.

Yet you don't see games like EQ1 and 2,guild wars, and many others having these problems.

Sorry but the 3 games i have mentioned all have terrible security.WoW doesn't bother with their security, just has you use authenticators(still can get hacked btw), FF11 has always had terrible security, and Sega decided on gamegaurd when their security has always been terrible.

Ya...

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 05:11 PM
"I CAT BELIEVE IT!" :-P



I didn't dance in the lobby. Even if I were standing in my usual spot, by the transport gate, I'm usually talking to someone or listening to others. Honestly though, what's it to you? Why do you care what other players are doing with their time? :-?

I'll let you in on a little secret regarding spammers: There's a blacklist function. Amazing, I know!

Blacklisting doesn't kick people from busy blocks (that people that want to actually do missions on) that are wasting space afk dancing for hours and hours or using the game as a glorified chat client for hours and hours. Its incredibly annoying when you cant get into a busy block to burst party or whatever else because there's always 30 or more people that just sit in a lobby all day unless city is up. They're fucking wastes of space and if they accidentally get banned while they loiter for hours upon hours, oh well. They weren't really playing the game anyway, now were they.

The game honestly needs a setting like PSO had, where you get kicked from the game after like ten minutes of no activity/no user input. It would clear up all the lobbies full of afk morons taking up spaces actual players could be using, and it would also kill the problem of leeches that use auto follow to get exp and afk and tab out, wasting multiparty slots (I could care less about people 'not helping the burst party' but its more the principle that if you're that lazy and can't be assed to even PLAY the game, you need to get the fuck out seriously. People that auto follow all day are the same lobby rats that feel the game itself is too much work and just chat in lobby all day, that find out about auto follow and use it to level up their character while they aren't being lobby rats and have to leave the computer for whatever reason. Because even they know how pitiful they look having the same level 5 character for weeks on end, and they cant buy pretty gear to lobby whore if they spend all day in lobby but they dont wanna work for that money/gear either.)

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 05:25 PM
Oh no, people all play for different reasons. How terrible. Let's disparage a large group of people we don't know based on anecdotal evidence that a handful of them are annoying. Yes, this is the new plan.

Halcyote
Jul 20, 2012, 05:30 PM
itt: err'body mad

Dan Maku
Jul 20, 2012, 05:32 PM
itt: err'body mad

And why shouldn't we be? Just read through this thread to see how poisonous these hacker kiddies are.

Halcyote
Jul 20, 2012, 05:34 PM
And why shouldn't we be? Just read through this thread to see how poisonous these hacker kiddies are.
you shouldn't be because this is a poor attempt at riling people up because of what happened and everybody falls for it

so... err'body mad

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 05:34 PM
So if you're in the lobby chatting and socializing with people and not running missions you're a 'lobby rat' and a waste of space?

wtf?

sugarFO
Jul 20, 2012, 05:37 PM
So if you're in the lobby chatting and socializing with people and not running missions you're a 'lobby rat' and a waste of space?

wtf?
I guess many of the people on PSOW are so socially inept they have no idea that chatting and socializing can be fun, too. lol

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 05:44 PM
you shouldn't be because this is a poor attempt at riling people up because of what happened and everybody falls for it

so... err'body madyou makin' me mad son, i'mma box you

Halcyote
Jul 20, 2012, 05:46 PM
you makin' me mad son, i'mma box you

deal_with_it.html

Wolfgrey666
Jul 20, 2012, 05:53 PM
deal_with_it.html

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0811/ideas-butt-groudbreaking-anime-funny-fail-demotivational-poster-1226456896.png

I has an idea XD

We should all get along and then camp the block 20 lobby singing songs to impose our lack progress on others.

Since it seems to be what we do best.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 05:59 PM
deal_with_it.htmlyou just came at me bro, what gives, you sound mad etc

Vylera
Jul 20, 2012, 05:59 PM
I guess many of the people on PSOW are so socially inept they have no idea that chatting and socializing can be fun, too. lol

I SPEAK NO CAN HOW WITH YOU COMMUNICATE DO NOT HAS PEANUT BUTTER I WILL MAYBE TOGETHER NOW?

Yexes
Jul 20, 2012, 06:02 PM
Ship 2 is only the way it is now because of me.

gigawuts
Jul 20, 2012, 06:03 PM
I remember lobby chatting in PSOBB for hours. It was great fun.

Of course, back then we would go into separate blocks and it didn't adversely affect anybody. For a while my block of choice was Oceanus 5-5, with whatever team I was on.

That's something I really feel this game needs back. Different levels of a block, with different themes and everything. I loved that in PSO1. Also, soccer lobbies. I want soccer lobbies. I wish to kick chuchus.

Vylera
Jul 20, 2012, 06:04 PM
I wish to kick chuchus.

Burn the witch!

Wolfgrey666
Jul 20, 2012, 06:04 PM
I remember lobby chatting in PSOBB for hours. It was great fun.

Of course, back then we would go into separate blocks and it didn't adversely affect anybody. For a while my block of choice was Oceanus 5-5, with whatever team I was on.

That's something I really feel this game needs back. Different levels of a block, with different themes and everything. I loved that in PSO1. Also, soccer lobbies. I want soccer lobbies. I wish to kick chuchus.

I agree 100% with everything you said.

Halcyote
Jul 20, 2012, 06:08 PM
you just came at me bro, what gives, you sound mad etc

by telling me i sound mad u must be the mad one!!11`1`11

reverse feelingsist

KEV1N
Jul 20, 2012, 06:08 PM
I remember lobby chatting in PSOBB for hours. It was great fun.

Of course, back then we would go into separate blocks and it didn't adversely affect anybody. For a while my block of choice was Oceanus 5-5, with whatever team I was on.

That's something I really feel this game needs back. Different levels of a block, with different themes and everything. I loved that in PSO1. Also, soccer lobbies. I want soccer lobbies. I wish to kick chuchus.

That's actually a good idea.

Aewyn
Jul 20, 2012, 06:37 PM
by telling me i sound mad u must be the mad one!!11`1`11

reverse feelingsistopposite day dawg, you know wut it is

Halcyote
Jul 20, 2012, 06:39 PM
opposite day dawg, you know wut it is
there's a such thing as opposite day?

gigawuts
Jul 20, 2012, 06:46 PM
there's a such thing as opposite day?

No.*

* It's opposite day, so that actually means yes.

G.A.M.E.R-X
Jul 20, 2012, 06:58 PM
I really don't care if people mainly only turn on the game to chat, but uh yeah don't clog up the blocks with people looking to group up and play with your dead weight then

Which is what I said in the other post lol


The game has a block labeled "Chat" for a reason :-?

If you loiter in busy 'gaming' blocks taking up spaces and potentially blocking actual players that want to group up from getting in then yes, you are a lobby rat :-P


Edit: Btw theres 2 different updates in the 'Roadmap Ahead' that refer to 'New Lobby event' which i'm assuming was mistranslated and means 'Event Lobby'

So we'll prob have soccer lobbys and some other kinda event lobby soon enough

Dhylec
Jul 20, 2012, 07:09 PM
Like may topics about hacking, glitching, this is due for a lock, since it's derailed to mostly accusing, spamming & trolling.