Questions concerning the new classes

[Dan Maku]

Does anyone know if taking/switching between the new classes will cost AC?

[Lyrah]

It shouldn't...I mean you can switch between the default classes right now for free, so i wouldn't worry about that yet, not until we get an answer from a reliable source

[jooozek]

Nothing official so far, still makes me wonder if the subclasses are the new classes that were announced already few months ago or something totally different, one can only assume.

[IAmSecretSpy]

data-mined and explained by Golden. They are Sub-Classes for your Main Class, im hoping the new hunter weapons have gear in that Sub-Class Tree THAT would be awesome. Just imagine hitting faster with knuckles :3 I R WANT!

[Lyrah]

data-mined and explained by Golden. They are Sub-Classes for your Main Class, im hoping the new hunter weapons have gear in that Sub-Class Tree THAT would be awesome. Just imagine hitting faster with knuckles :3 I R WANT!

I want new techs qq

[gigawuts]

Oh, we know all this for certain now? Link?

[TetsuyaHikari]

That would be so evil, OP, lol.

[IAmSecretSpy]

Oh, we know all this for certain now? Link?

Its datamind, in the Alpha it also stated sub-classes under your main class. The person right of the main Class NPC is for Sub-classes. Everything else is assumptions like i said "i hope"

[Dan Maku]

data-mined and explained by Golden. They are Sub-Classes for your Main Class, im hoping the new hunter weapons have gear in that Sub-Class Tree THAT would be awesome. Just imagine hitting faster with knuckles :3 I R WANT!

But can I switch freely between them like I can the main classes? I want mechguns and knuckles. :3

[jooozek]

Its datamind, in the Alpha it also stated sub-classes under your main class. The person right of the main Class NPC is for Sub-classes. Everything else is assumptions like i said "i hope"
That person right to the class npc is the Team npc, to the left, the titles npc.

[IAmSecretSpy]

But can I switch freely between them like I can the main classes? I want mechguns and knuckles. :3

That would mean Sub-Hybrids, i would assume not until we get some more info.

[gigawuts]

Erm, why wouldn't we be able to swap subclasses like we can main classes?

We don't know anything. There's nothing about subclasses right now. For all we know subclasses were scrapped and these are generic training classes. There's no new information. Nobody knows what they'll charge or how easy they'll make it to switch, or which one uses what weapons or even what they're called.

Things have been datamined. Maybe they'll stick to that info, maybe they won't.

[supersonix9]

Nah, it won't. Problem solved.

[IAmSecretSpy]

Erm, why wouldn't we be able to swap subclasses like we can main classes?

We don't know anything. There's nothing about subclasses right now. For all we know subclasses were scrapped and these are generic training classes. There's no new information. Nobody knows what they'll charge or how easy they'll make it to switch, or which one uses what weapons or even what they're called.

Things have been datamined. Maybe they'll stick to that info, maybe they won't.

Have you read any blogs or interviews with Sakai?
Sub-Classes are confirmed through data mining and him saying himself for future updates. I don't know what your trying to get at, it seems you just don't care for sub classes and or disagreeing with any and everything im saying. Do some research and calm your mind im sure we will get something nice whether that be what you think and or I.

[Kondibon]

Have you read any blogs or interviews with Sakai?
Sub-Classes are confirmed through data mining and him saying himself for future updates. I don't know what your trying to get at, it seems you just don't care for sub classes and or disagreeing with any and everything im saying. Do some research and calm your mind im sure we will get something nice whether that be what you think and or I.

He was just trying to point out that we don't know any details, only that there will most likely be subclasses, which doesn't mean much on it's own.

[supersonix9]

There's nothing about subclasses right now.

He was just trying to point out that we don't know any details, only that there will most likely be subclasses, which doesn't mean much on it's own.



What else did you get out of Sakai's hint of

_ U B _ L A S S ?

I don't know, judging by the fact that it was written by Sakai himself, I would figure it's legitimate.

[IAmSecretSpy]

He was just trying to point out that we don't know any details, only that there will most likely be subclasses, which doesn't mean much on it's own.

He implies we know absolutely nothing which is false we know what is in store just not how or what will be implemented with it. There is another thread about Hybrids and what the sub classes are, if you feel the need we can discuss it there.

[gigawuts]

What else did you get out of Sakai's hint of

_ U B _ L A S S?

Pub Glass

You know like for lager.

[GoldenFalcon]

What else did you get out of Sakai's hint of

__ BU __ LA SU?

fixed

But, it doesn't change that it can't really be anything but Sub Class

[TetsuyaHikari]

What else did you get out of Sakai's hint of

_ U B _ L A S S ?

I don't know, judging by the fact that it was written by Sakai himself, I would figure it's legitimate.

In Flowen I trust.


_ U B _ L A S S

UHHHHH..... PUB GLASS!

[gigawuts]

He implies we know absolutely nothing which is false we know what is in store just not how or what will be implemented with it. There is another thread about Hybrids and what the sub classes are, if you feel the need we can discuss it there.

I imply, or rather state emphatically, that most of what we know is speculation and that you should stop posting it as fact.

Golden Falcon's "explanation," which coincides with mine might I add, is speculation. It's not fact.

Stop acting like it is.

[Kondibon]

What else did you get out of Sakai's hint of

_ U B _ L A S S ?

I don't know, judging by the fact that it was written by Sakai himself, I would figure it's legitimate.

Why is no one reading what I say?

We don't know any details.

details

What Gigwuts and I are saying is that there's no way we can know how they work or how much they cost at this point until theres more info.

[supersonix9]

fixed

But, it doesn't change that it can't really be anything but Sub Class

No, it's _ U B _ L A S S. This is an English forum.

I can read Katakana, Hiragana, and quite a few Kanji. I am aware of how it's spelled in Japanese.

[Lyrah]

No, it's _ U B _ L A S S. This is an English forum.

pub glass? :D

[GoldenFalcon]

No, it's _ U B _ L A S S. This is an English forum.

You are blatantly ignorant of Japanese silly with your constant edits
As someone else said, it could even be Love Plus (Rabu Purasu)

What I mean to say is that you can't say it's _ub, because the mystery character controls the vowel.

[supersonix9]

pub glass? :D

Not my point :P

[gigawuts]

Warning: Severe semantics ahead.


No, it's _ U B _ L A S S. This is an English forum.

Except no.

http://bumped.org/psublog/sakais-fill-in-the-blank-and-sega-at-comiket-82/

It says _ ブ _ ラ ス

In the screenshot it does indeed say サブクラス which would almost definitely be subclass.

That's all fine and dandy.

We still don't know specifics or how they will work and we sure as shit can't say that we won't be able to switch between them. So don't.

[supersonix9]

You are blatantly ignorant of Japanese silly with your constant edits
As someone else said, it could even be Love Plus (Rabu Purasu)

What I mean to say is that you can't say it's _ub, because the mystery character controls the vowel.

SA BU KU RA SU

Translates to

sUB cLASS


Why are we arguing about this? I don't care what language it's in. We're talking about the same god damn thing.

[GoldenFalcon]

sa BU ku RA SU

Translates to

suB cLASS

fixed

As gigawuts said, semantics
and there's nothing else to post about, so why not

[TetsuyaHikari]

I'm going to laugh when Sakai announces the grand opening of a Phantasy Star Online 2 themed bar with Vol cocktails and keep it open for a year as a promotional campaign for the game.

[supersonix9]

fixed

As gigawuts said, semantics
and there's nothing else to post about, so why not

And lower-case changes anything?

[Lyrah]

Can't you guys just agree to disagree?

[GoldenFalcon]

And lower-case changes anything?

ブ is not UB
Which I'm sure you know, but you keep just pasting the bumped thing, which was also semantically incorrect

[TetsuyaHikari]

And lower-case changes anything?

He's not even trying any more, lol. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself at this point.

[gigawuts]

And lower-case changes anything?

lower case is lost in translation because japan doesn't have lowercase uguu~

[Kondibon]

I'm sorry about that little outburst I don't like being missunderstood.

But yeah to summarize, there's too much evidence to deny there being subclasses, but at the same time we simply know jack shit about them for sure, only lots of speculation based on what we've seen from datamining, ingame, and what Sakai said. No one will be able to say for sure if they'll cost anything to change, but I personally doubt it.

[supersonix9]

ブ is not UB
Which I'm sure you know, but you keep just pasting the bumped thing, which was also semantically incorrect

Ah, nevermind. I didn't understand what point you were trying to make with BU changing to UB.

[IAmSecretSpy]

Warning: Severe semantics ahead.



Except no.

http://bumped.org/psublog/sakais-fill-in-the-blank-and-sega-at-comiket-82/

It says _ ブ _ ラ ス

In the screenshot it does indeed say サブクラス which would almost definitely be subclass.

That's all fine and dandy.

We still don't know specifics or how they will work and we sure as shit can't say that we won't be able to switch between them. So don't.

I never said we could? Id advise you to stop attacking me as im trying to have a decent conversation and this is not the thread for it. Instead of being immature and being rude why don't you READ first. I never said a lick about how we can or how they would implement anything.


I imply, or rather state emphatically, that most of what we know is speculation and that you should stop posting it as fact.

Golden Falcon's "explanation," which coincides with mine might I add, is speculation. It's not fact.

Stop acting like it is.
Never said anything is fact at all? Beside the NPC which now reading that other thread was just a misunderstanding. It was assumed that underneath your Main class in the Alpha was something and was thought it could be Sub-Classes. I never said anything is FACT so please re-read. Id appreciate it if you stop with the attitude as well its rather annoying and makes you seem childish. If you have a problem with me please contact me through PM instead getting pissy in a thread.

[gigawuts]

Ah, nevermind. I didn't understand what point you were trying to make with BU changing to UB.

Although I still don't see a point in changing the SU and KU to lower case.

You...were serious?

First a bit more of semantics: It's not su. Its sa.

Second, it's to denote that they're the blanks. That screenshot was not part of the press release.

I misspoke when I said we don't know "subclasses" are confirmed - they're as close to confirmed as game devs like to get while keeping their players in suspense. I like it when devs do this stuff, valve does it with TF2 all the time. It can be fun.

But we still can't say what they'll use, how they'll be assigned, if they'll be hybrids, or what. Zipzo's theory that subclasses are only there as specializations in their respective class is exactly as possible as hybrids.

[supersonix9]

You...were serious?

First a bit more of semantics: It's not su. Its sa.
Typo.

Edit so I don't double-post and get yelled at: I don't care if it denotes blanks. The comment is completely unnecessary.

[gigawuts]

Never said anything is fact at all? Beside the NPC which now reading that other thread was just a misunderstanding. It was assumed that underneath your Main class in the Alpha was something and was thought it could be Sub-Classes. I never said anything is FACT so please re-read. Id appreciate it if you stop with the attitude as well its rather annoying and makes you seem childish. If you have a problem with me please contact me through PM instead getting pissy in a thread.

This isn't me having an attitude. This is me dropping my nice outlook because of how often this kind of thread is made and how often people post speculation like it's fact instead of saying we just don't know.

[Gardios]

Still hoping that ○ブ○ラス turns out to be ラブプラス...

[ScottyMango]

Are we arguing about whether or not we're getting subclasses or not?

Cause.. didn't Sakai already pretty much confirm that with his hint of "_UB_LASS" or whatever?

[Kondibon]

Are we arguing about whether or not we're getting subclasses or not?

Cause.. didn't Sakai already pretty much confirm that with his hint of "_UB_LASS" or whatever?

I think any argument started because of some misunderstandings and now everyone is just being silly.

[Asuni]

Still hoping that ○ブ○ラス turns out to be ラブプラス...

lol i don't think love plus is an option

[Dan Maku]

ブ is not UB

Clearly, you don't know Japanese.

[bryanbtje]

For so far i know ブ means BU

[Dinosaur]

Does anyone know if taking/switching between the new classes will cost AC?

The full game is free to play and always will be. Sakai has stated this plenty of times before release. AC is for strictly for extra things. So the answer to your question is no.

[GoldenFalcon]

Clearly, you don't know Japanese.

lol, thank you

[IAmSecretSpy]

This isn't me having an attitude. This is me dropping my nice outlook because of how often this kind of thread is made and how often people post speculation like it's fact instead of saying we just don't know.

I said 2-3 times we don't know anything besides they are Sub-Classes... The OP and the discussion we are having now has nothing to do with this thread and the question he had asked. People will post and do anything for attention. What i was trying to say is we know what it is but we don't know anything else other then what was datamind. I go around saying they are hybrids or they are not hybrids all day long but that doesn't mean its right or wrong either. Its just best to leave the subject alone. Let people believe what they want and so should you and I.

[Gardios]

lol i don't think love plus is an option

One can dream, right?

[Feggge]

I know all of this is just speculation but I have to give my opinion on the matter. I don't think there is any doubt that it's sub classes we are getting and if so I feel like they are a replacement of the hybrid classes we had in PSU.

Think about it, if you as a ranger pick the fighter sub class, you end up as a fighgunner (specialising in ranged combat). And you can just as easily add spell casting to your hunter.

And of course, having it this way also opens the door for specialising in your favourite class, i.e. fortegunner, fortetecher and so on and so forth. It makes for a very dynamic class system.

And as some has already speculated, we get exp for the subclasses from S-ranking missions but still lvl the main class as we do now. Much like the lvl system worked in PSU only the lvl there wasn't tied to the main class.

Or am I way off here?

[gigawuts]

I said 2-3 times we don't know anything besides they are Sub-Classes... The OP and the discussion we are having now has nothing to do with this thread and the question he had asked. People will post and do anything for attention. What i was trying to say is we know what it is but we don't know anything else other then what was datamind. I go around saying they are hybrids or they are not hybrids all day long but that doesn't mean its right or wrong either. Its just best to leave the subject alone. Let people believe what they want and so should you and I.

I could leave this alone, but would rather follow up. You're right, I could have read your posts better. Rereading you did specify that. Sorry.

[jooozek]

The full game is free to play and always will be. Sakai has stated this plenty of times before release. AC is for strictly for extra things. So the answer to your question is no.

This really depends on how they implement, for all we know they could pull off the subclasses as additions to skill trees but not using the current SP points but something else so it would be also possible that it would cost money to respecialise (like how you have to pay for another skill tree). Nothing is set in stone yet, gotta wait for official info.

[Nerineri]

Still hoping that ○ブ○ラス turns out to be ラブプラス...

Love plus as a surprise.... I welcome that. Having Rinko as personal maid in my room would be nice :yes:

[dooby613]

Typo.

Edit so I don't double-post and get yelled at: I don't care if it denotes blanks. The comment is completely unnecessary.

sooo....how's your mom?