Underrated Caves

[Morfos]

Why is that everybody hates caves so much. Here is what people say and/or think.

"It is long"-yeah so is ruins, ruins is way longer, spaceship and seabed are longer. And Mines isnt much shorter.

"It is boring"-Simular gameplay as forest, just harder

"It is so dull"-Whats so dull about it? Cave1 has Lava, even lava falls and rivers.Cave2 has alot of pretty scenery in some of the areas, with ponds and trees, Cave3 has some pretty parts as well as ugly parts.

"Its repetitive" look above, the 3 areas are very different, even different gameplay. Cave 1 has large rooms while in Cave 2 they are small, that makes a difference.

"Megid"-So does Ruins Temple Spaceship Seabed

"Its ga.y"-How immature

"Confuseing layout"-Dont even think about entering Episode2 or Ruins. If you get lost in caves then you are a n00b/newbie no offense.

"Terrible Music"-yes thats true, but music isnt everything, ST makes alot of cheap music anyways.

"Everybody hates it"-I guess that is why everybody hates it right? Dont want to think for yourself for a change?

"I hate people who like caves"-Then you are a jerk.

"Cave teh suxxors"-nice grammer

anyways whats wrong with caves? tell me the truth, don't say the above quotes because those arent good enough reasons to hate a level unless you hate other levels in the game as well. I will probably get flammed for this knowing that most people that hate caves hate those who do not hate it as well.

[SadiXticHeath]

i like caves...id like it better if it would cough up my damn red sword maybe...

[Morfos]

I know why ST put the best stuff in caves. I support their disision on doing that.

[Asami]

I used to not like the caves, but doing IS with people who know what they're doing changed my mine. IS is a great place to get exp, and since there are TONS of melqueeks getting rares is also nice. The only problem is the megid mil lilies spew out, and there are TONS of them too. Unlike ruins, where the gran sorcerer appear occasionally, the mil lilies in make many people stay away from the caves.

[Zeebo]

Caves are to long and those 2 jointed things take forever to kill......... plus some get paralyzed and poisened alot

[dys0r]

Caves is actually one of my fave stages, beside CCA. You can get a bunch of real sweet rares there -- good ones, too. Caves isn't too bad once you get passed the "GOD DAMN MEGID SPITTING BASTARDS!" mentality. The only problem I seem to be having now's that I haven't gotten a single good drop for my level 131 Yellowboze HUcast -- just gay photon drops and crap. After over 230 runs of Caves, I've yet to see GUARD WAVE, HEAVEN PUNISHER, RED SWORD, and RED SCORPIO drops. Frustrating, I tell you.

- dys

[Muku6]

They're so boring and dull. It's mostly orange everywhere. It's definately not eye friendly, to me at least. Just.. so... dull.

[Xion810]

I like the caves... Why?

1) Nar Lilly
2) Polluy Slime
3) De Rol Le

Need I say more? I like to fight De Rol Le. He has a pattern unlike the Dragon who lacks one and Vol Opt who is very erratic. Shoot barnacles, shoot energy, clamp, release, repeat two more times, hit lights, barnacles, shoot lazer beam three times, shoot energy balls, shoot lazer beam again, turn lights back on, repeat. Very repetitive and easy to learn.

Oh and just because I'm a RAcast has nothing to do with me liking the caves. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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[Atax]

On 2003-03-28 18:08, Zeebo wrote:
Caves are to long and those 2 jointed things take forever to kill.........

On 2003-03-28 17:42, Morfos wrote:
"It is long"-yeah so is ruins, ruins is way longer, spaceship and seabed are longer. And Mines isnt much shorter.




On 2003-03-28 18:12, Muku6 wrote:
They're so boring and dull. It's mostly orange everywhere. It's definately not eye friendly, to me at least. Just.. so... dull.



On 2003-03-28 17:42, Morfos wrote:
"It is so dull"-Whats so dull about it? Cave1 has Lava, even lava falls and rivers.Cave2 has alot of pretty scenery in some of the areas, with ponds and trees, Cave3 has some pretty parts as well as ugly parts.




On 2003-03-28 17:42, Morfos wrote:
tell me the truth, don't say the above quotes because those arent good enough reasons to hate a level unless you hate other levels in the game as well.

[TedEdFred]

I don't know... Caves is pretty much the only area I've played for the last 2 or 3 weeks...

[Joe-Azlin]

the only reason i dont like caves is because the forest is my favorite place and i can lvl alot faster in the forest 2 so yea...... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Fanatic72802]

unlike the Dragon who lacks one

I believe it is:
Stomp around
Stop to breathe fire/ice
If health > around 75%, fly up, fall.
If health > around 50%, Fly up, shoot fire/ice, fall.
If health < around 50%, Fly up, burrow underground.
Burrow through the ground 3 times, 3rd time a spiral.
Repeat.

And bravo, Atax! Bravo indeed. Way to lay down the law!

And I think Caves 2/3 on ult look really cool, almost as good as Ult Mines! And I don't mind the lillies, I only play with people who will use moons/reverser.

[Mitzuki]

HEh.The only time I play Cave are when i have to or when im looking for rares.Caves are boring,its not exsiting,not like mines with robots and lot of color,ruins are fun because you can get the most exp there and its f*ck'n hard in ult mode.Forest is fun because its short and you can find alot of rares there to.Caves are boring just plain and simple

[Brundidge]

I love caves but only while playing Addicting Food quest. Caves 1 is a good number of EXP and there's a good some of enemies in each room. While when you travel through Caves normally there' are that many enemies in each room and waves are usually small numbers too.

[Ryu13]

i hate the caves. y?
1.bad music
2.boring enemies
3.de rol lie suck arse
4.too long (ruins is long but it is fun)
5.slimes (take to long to kill if low level)
6.nanos (fly and run away to much)

these are reasons i hate the caves....the motherfu**in caves

[Cloud_01]

I actually like the caves. I used to do a lot of cave runs while I was looking for a Kasami Bracer with my Bluefull HUmar off a Nano Dragon.

I was really happy when I finally found Kasami Bracer. I haven't found anything that good since.

[kat]

I rather like the caves, especially cave 2. THe rainbow room is just beautiful!

And they give me good Exp.

I couldn't navigate in them for ages though, but I'm happy in them now... it's the ruins that are driving me nuts.

Cave music isn't great and cheerful, instead it always makes me think that something is going to jump out at me when the room has already been cleared...

The mines are a bit hard on my eyes, being that they have all the flashy floor patterns... and I'm only in the ruins for like the second time so we'll have to see if it changes once I get more familiar with the way it works.

I don't mind those flowers, as I can usually avoid them and then kill them... but I have a friend who can't walk into the biggest room there is and be as far away as possible from the things and not get hit... the plants seem to hate him.

But then, mines have those anoying slow motion traps, and the poison traps... which are both annoying....

[KingCanin]

You want to know why the vast majority of people do not like Caves? It's the way everything just kind of blends together in Caves one. It's like walking through one amorphous blob of orange. Couple that with terrible enemies that take attrociously long times to kill, and you don't have a winner. It is also one of the longer and more maze like stages in the game, the only one I can think of that's longer is ruins. I don't care for ruins much either.

[Polenicus]

Ellusive_Llama has been dragging me through ultimate caves a lot lately, and I have to admit they're growing on me. It's decent experience, good rare drops and enemies that aren't that hard to kill off. Unlike Episode II Temple, you normally can hide out of the lillies range, letting the other enemies come to you. Once you've ground them down, you can just poke at them with handguns (You DID bring one, right? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif until they die.

HOWEVER, caves is only fun if you know there's someone there to resurrect you when (yes, WHEN) those damn lillies tag you. The bigger the group, the better. By yourself, caves are stressful, difficult and not a lot of fun. They also seem a LOT longer.

As for Del Rol... he has been and shall forever remain in all of his incarnations, a total and complete wuss.

[Cross689]

ok here is why i hate every lvl xept forest
Caves:loooooooooooong lillys lvl 62 humar do the math
Mines: 1,000,000 hp shit when i do 100 lvl 91 RAmarl
Ruins: walking back to DF the 50th time cause u forget to pipe is annoying.
Temple: hahahhah photon efficiencys do nothing.
Spaceship:how the fuck you get outta this crap???
CCA: xp is crappier thanmines and its just as hard if not harder.
Seabed:this lvl issssssss waaaaaaaaayyyyy too hard is a lvl 50 RAmarl got beat down here on norm im not even super n00b either.

[IceBlink]

I only like Ultimate Caves, for the sole reason it's harder, what with all the megid and stuff. Not normal/hard/very hard caves. I dunno why. Probably the use of colours, as well as the long trek. o_O

Ruins trek is easier because I've done it so often, I instinctively know the route to follow, even if I'm not sure I'm going that way. ^_^;;

[Razul]

I am going to have to say the caves are not my favorite place but definately not the worst place. Like some others have said the caves are long but so are ruins and if u use a they are a cinch. With the caves u can get through it quickly with the right weapons and the right char because the enemies stay in the same place and can be hit many times(with th exception of poufilly slime and sometimes nano dragon). Well i guess my point is that mines take much longer because the robots keep falling down and geting back up and caves are cool.


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[Malkavian]

I don't dislike caves But I Think there are some bad things.

- Music is very sleepy and it makes you want to quit the game.

- Some of the enemies most hated are in caves... the nano dragon flying awayand doing those powerful rays and those unable to evade balls. The slow slimes that sometimes take ages to kill, same for pan arms, lillies spiting megid...

- Cave 1 is cool because there are great amounts of enemies at once but some rooms are very big, and many long&empty corridors, also the lava red look isn't too nice.

- Cave 2 is my favourite part of the caves, bigger variety of enemies than C1 or C3, nice look and the path is very straight.

- Cave 3 is boring!! The enemies appear in small groups, and few waves, the rooms are kinda big and there's many running and is the area of the game that is more like a maze. Sometimes the boss is next to the start room O_o And most of the times you end going to boss only doing 40-50% of the area

[Rika-454]

i got my good times with the caves (fun) and my bad times with the caves (hell). To me, the megid in the caves isnt as bad at the one in the temple which i do runs of occasionally with my hucaseal, i just....really can't stand those nano dragon's or when i split the slimes (which i try to do alot) maybe its because when i did challenge 2, thats the tuffest challenge for me because you're really weak and its also the one i see most people fail...

anyways, the caves is in the center of my love/hate area's list

[Barubary6]

"Megid"-So does Ruins Temple Spaceship Seabed

The Megid from an Ob Lily/Mil Lily/Del Lily is much harder to avoid than other monsters' Megid. They spit it unpredictably and much more frequently.

"Confuseing layout"-Dont even think about entering Episode2 or Ruins. If you get lost in caves then you are a n00b/newbie no offense.

I agree with this... I don't really see how any PSO map could be confusing.

"Terrible Music"-yes thats true, but music isnt everything, ST makes alot of cheap music anyways.

It's the worst song in PSO. Every other song in the game is at least decent.

anyways whats wrong with caves? tell me the truth, don't say the above quotes because those arent good enough reasons to hate a level unless you hate other levels in the game as well. I will probably get flammed for this knowing that most people that hate caves hate those who do not hate it as well.

I do hate other levels. I hate VR Temple and VR Spaceship. My favorite levels in the game are Mines and Central Control Area (Seabed/Jungle/Mountain).

The only levels I play very much are Forest, Mines, and Central Control Area.

-- Barubary

[Ryu13]

i hate cave 1 and cave 3 but i like cave 2 w/ all its water and waterfalls but my fav levels are forest,mines,,and spaceship.

[Auracom]

I like caves!
I dislike Mil Lily... sob I died again

[ALPHAM0F0]

well for the most part i dont hate the caves, but i both rue and detest them....
as for reasons, well for one when your a low level (hucast or hucaseal) playing offline its pretty damn hard to beat DRL.
thats pretty much my only reason to hate the caves.
Reason why i love the caves. : Rares, very easy to find, and very often

[Morfos]

I never have problems with Nano Dragons or large packs of enemies because Im a force. And I find it easy to dodge lilies in caves because I out range them. I never been a hunter in Ultimate caves yet.

[Morfos]

On 2003-03-28 20:05, Ryu13 wrote:
1.bad music
2.boring enemies
3.de rol lie suck arse
4.too long (ruins is long but it is fun)
5.slimes (take to long to kill if low level)
6.nanos (fly and run away to much)



1.I dont mind
2.I think the enmies look cool
3.Yes he does, I just RAfoie him and he dies in a few
4.Ruins has simular gameplay as caves but harder
5.Not very many of them, they have low hp
6.I use long range Barta attacks they are np

[ISkyly4EverI]

On 2003-03-28 17:53, SadiXticHeath wrote:
i like caves...id like it better if it would cough up my damn red sword maybe...

I completely agree!

[Guntz348]

I like caves for the exp, especially EN2 and IS. I think it's all the red in cave one that people don't like. Something about that backgrounds there just isn't too apealing to the eyes.

[AppieDPC]

i love caves. Like all said u can find good stuff there. And ever since v2 i loved it more cause i love lilys that shoot megid http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif. In no time i was the only standin in caves when we c 4 lilys cause i knew how long it takes them 2 look me and shoot me and im always walkin b4 they do that lol. Caves look beautifull (ult even better) I always play em offline. Usually i just play the whole ep offline and then stop playin offline. Mines ult still woops my azz so its just forest and caves now http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif