The optimistism for english servers threads

[May0]

Just a thread to see some thoughts on the english version. Preferably positive outlooks and ideas would be welcome as I'm fairly confident this forum has at length beaten the "Sega of America is bad" horse to death, resurrected it, beat it again, paraded its head around town and stuck it on a pike.

I ask that you leave speculation based on the past performance of Sega out of the discussion and reflect on other issues.

Some points to consider- PSO2 will have a vast player base available in the EU and US. While the metaphorical flood gate being open will allow a range of good players to join it will let the crappy ones join as well. To this end an active and player friendly moderation team will be one of the deciding factors on the english PSO2 ship sinking or floating.

The free to play model should make the game inclusive of course but a subscription makes a good buffer for idiots. Again an active moderation team is needed to curb the various miscreants getting into the game

Finally, localization... lower difficulty? item drop chance change? less kawaii and more hamburgers?

[EvilMag]

I can see them boosting the drop rates. IIRC they did that with the US/EU version of PSP2.

[Link1275]

For the record, what I am about to say is the best I can see them being.

They will be infested with hackers and max levels with the best gear on day one. Sega will do nothing about it, and the international server will never get any seasonal or MA events. In short look at PSP2 and times it by 999999999999999999999999999999999999.

[supersonix9]

And there we have it. We've already completely ignored the OP.

[[Ayumi]]

For the record, what I am about to say is the best I can see them being.

They will be infested with hackers and max levels with the best gear on day one. Sega will do nothing about it, and the international server will never get any seasonal or MA events. In short look at PSP2 and times it by 999999999999999999999999999999999999.


And there we have it. We've already completely ignored the OP.

I couldn't help but laugh at this.

[supersonix9]

;2873984']I couldn't help but laugh at this.

Yeah, I'm pretty funny. And correct.

[Spellbinder]

Well you have to admit, if we're not allowed to mention how they've handled every other incarnation of the online Phantasy Star series, it's a bit difficult to make a conjecture on how SEGA will run PSO2 with a basis on nothing.

[Konflyk]

Positive thread on PSOW about PSO2
Positive thread about PSO2 EN
Positive thread
Nope

[Coatl]

They will probably make the game easier for NA players.
But that's it.

[May0]

For the record, what I am about to say is the best I can see them being.

They will be infested with hackers and max levels with the best gear on day one. Sega will do nothing about it, and the international server will never get any seasonal or MA events. In short look at PSP2 and times it by 999999999999999999999999999999999999.

OH hark! Mysterious sage of the future tell me more! Clearly one with talents such as yours need not be galavanting about on a video game message board! Your powers are better reserved for more meaningful endovers like predicting how much bullshit one man can muster in a single sentence.

Far be it from me to impose my foolish notions on such vivid images from the future. Contemptable luck I have being cast in the shadow of a such a supreme seerer as thee. :o

[Sp-24]

It's important not to confuse pessimism and realism. Most of the disaster scenarios that plague these forums have a solid basis under them, unlike the "this time it'll be different, because Sega is in even more trouble financially than before, and absolutely nothing else has changed" attitude. But of course, for some people, word "experience" doesn't exist outside of RPG games.

[LeoSan]

imagine that maybe by "america and europoe will have their server", the game creator meant something like "a ship" or something that includes the japanese client and the stuff you have already form jp versions, so we get to keep our stuff and all that still. That would be awesome.

[Pirrip]

This thread is a huge joke. It goes without saying that the reason there is so little optimism for the western release is that ALL the people who hacked all the previous incarnations will likely be interested in PSO2 and want to do it all over again. Plus the long history of way overdue content.


But I like to be optimistic. I am really trying to be optimistic about it, so I will say that I have many friends looking forward to the western release of PSO2 and they will all be pissed if there's as much abuse as there was in the previous incarnations. God bless them, too, because they all tried the JP version with the English patch and it was too frustrating for them to continue. (like a team of 12 of us... only me and one other is left. ;A; )

I will be moving to Japan very soon, so this will not affect me. But I really really wish SEGA would make it so my friends and I could play together in different regions.

[Tomeeboy]

I think that SEGA is going to have to handle this game differently than previous titles, because it's going to be free to play from the very beginning. It's no longer just a matter of localizing the game and sticking it on store shelves. If they want the game to be profitable in the US and Europe, they will be smart to show those releases the same level of support that the Japanese version is getting right now.

As the release draws closer, we'll definitely be encouraging that kind of commitment when we talk to our contacts at SEGA. Ultimately, though, we'll all just have to wait and see. It should be interesting.

[MUDGRIP]

Its going to be entirely too easy to play the game without the language barrier. Plus payments methods are are going to be simple and direct without having to jump thru hoops. Who would want that? It would lose its PSO2 feel.

[supersonix9]

Its going to be entirely too easy to play the game without the language barrier. Plus payments methods are are going to be simple and direct without having to jump thru hoops. Who would want that? It would lose its PSO2 feel.

Well that's sort of irrelevant to the Japanese, and they seem to love the game.

[MUDGRIP]

Well that's sort of irrelevant to the Japanese, and they seem to love the game.

since the majority of the people on this board are Japanese.

[gigawuts]

Free to play games succeed for different reasons here in the west. Sega will either use that and modify PSO2 accordingly, or they'll scratch their heads while wondering why their korean mmo fared as badly as all the other korean mmo's released in the west.

[May0]

Well that's sort of irrelevant to the Japanese, and they seem to love the game.

I'm thinking that was some sarcasm...I hope. Joking aside, accessibility is the key to garnering a large audience. The more intuitive the interface the less likely people are to become frustrated and lose interest. This will be another key factor for the English release which will fall into the localization discussion. Luckily the UI is one of the easier things to change in a game as we've seen with the aforementioned English patch.


Free to play games succeed for different reasons here in the west. Sega will either use that and modify PSO2 accordingly, or they'll scratch their heads while wondering why their korean mmo fared as badly as all the other korean mmo's released in the west.


A strong point to be sure. I've played and passed up many a grind fest here and there but I will argue 2 points for Sega

first- "Its Sega" or more precisely the name brand i.e. "Sega's Phantasy Star". My point being PSO2 will reach a lot of people because Sega fans will eat it up... and Sega fans are a rabid and scary fan base. Just search your name along with the word "sonic" in deviant art for a demonstration of this devotion.

Second- From what I've seen its a quality game. This denotes a number of things that give me more words than I care to muster so to be brief I'll just outline them. It has unique and engaging controls, It has a varied and colorful art style and the world(s) it portrays is deep and pulls you into what can best be described as the Phantasy Star atmosphere.

Go back to forest 1 in PSO for a variable comparison.

[Griffin]

Brazilians will probably take a liking to a US server over JP as well. Probably. That should be fun.

[blace]

Brazilians will probably take a liking to a US server over JP as well. Probably. That should be fun.

I can see it already, "BR?" in the middle of every block followed by long strings of Portuguese discussing how they can screw us over and taking over MPA's with bots and nothing but.

[LeoSan]

Brazilians will probably take a liking to a US server over JP as well. Probably. That should be fun.

I can see it already, "BR?" in the middle of every block followed by long strings of Portuguese discussing how they can screw us over and taking over MPA's with bots and nothing but.
oh boy so funnay because they are so annyoing Xd br huahue

no.
I've met many brazilians who are actually more 'civilized' than your averge chubby cod/cs kiddie

[blace]

oh boy so funnay because they are so annyoing Xd br huahue

no.
I've met many brazilians who are actually more 'civilized' than your averge chubby cod/cs kiddie

Oh I'm talking about the types that join a party, set themselves to auto follow and go afk while you kill everything.

But yeah, I've met decent Brazilians, but the only thing barring them from getting any better is there connection.

[Chik'Tikka]

*scared of Brazilians, not because they speak in tongues, or that they're a third world country, it's just that they're the ones that bridged host (forcing the matchmaking servers to select you as host server for a match) 70% of the time in Gears of War 2, which had a peer to peer connection system that would select a host server out of ten players for the 9 other players to connect to*

i don't know how many of you ever played shooters, but to people that live north of Chicago, Brazilians are the bane of our existence+^_^+

also, I'll laugh if US/EU servers only cost $9.99 a month for premium+^_^+

[Coatl]

NA PSO2 is officially F2P though?

[Mike]

Oh I'm talking about the types that join a party, set themselves to auto follow and go afk while you kill everything.
The solution to this is to be the party leader and boot them if need-be. Or try and get monsters to kill them if in an MPA. Or change areas and come back.

When it comes down to the English version, the one thing I'm interested in knowing is how the cash shop will work. The Japanese version is terrible in this aspect and is run on the same level a lot of social games are. If the English version can fix this, I might just start over.

Unless the English version means IP blocks and the English verision becomes the "International" version. That would be horrible.

[Skye-Fox713]

The solution to this is to be the party leader and boot them if need-be. Or try and get monsters to kill them if in an MPA. Or change areas and come back.

When it comes down to the English version, the one thing I'm interested in knowing is how the cash shop will work. The Japanese version is terrible in this aspect and is run on the same level a lot of social games are. If the English version can fix this, I might just start over.

Unless the English version means IP blocks and the English verision becomes the "International" version. That would be horrible.

indeed that would suck if there was an IP block.

[blace]

NA PSO2 is officially F2P though?
It's announced on Sega's site (http://blogs.sega.com/2012/07/09/phantasy-star-online-2-is-coming-west/).

The solution to this is to be the party leader and boot them if need-be. Or try and get monsters to kill them if in an MPA. Or change areas and come back.

When it comes down to the English version, the one thing I'm interested in knowing is how the cash shop will work. The Japanese version is terrible in this aspect and is run on the same level a lot of social games are. If the English version can fix this, I might just start over.

Unless the English version means IP blocks and the English verision becomes the "International" version. That would be horrible.
I was talking about a different game, namely Flyff where having an afk healer is the norm when you specialize as an AoE class. When they would go afk for any amount longer than 10 minutes I would make them follow me into a large mob of enemies or a boss and watch their reaction about half an hour or so later.

If the korean games in the current market say anything, they'll probably adjust the rates to be somewhat pleasing to the western audience or sell the sets directly. If the game was headed by alaplaya, then it would always be a gacha based system. Otherwise, it's part of a set or all of a set at a set price. However, this is Sega's first game that is free to play and with that it can either deviate from what SoJ is doing or follow them. We'll see when it's released.

If there is an IP block, it would only delay western players before finding workarounds before someone lists how to get back on their servers.

[gigawuts]

A strong point to be sure. I've played and passed up many a grind fest here and there but I will argue 2 points for Sega

first- "Its Sega" or more precisely the name brand i.e. "Sega's Phantasy Star". My point being PSO2 will reach a lot of people because Sega fans will eat it up... and Sega fans are a rabid and scary fan base. Just search your name along with the word "sonic" in deviant art for a demonstration of this devotion.

Second- From what I've seen its a quality game. This denotes a number of things that give me more words than I care to muster so to be brief I'll just outline them. It has unique and engaging controls, It has a varied and colorful art style and the world(s) it portrays is deep and pulls you into what can best be described as the Phantasy Star atmosphere.

Go back to forest 1 in PSO for a variable comparison.

You've got some solid points, that's for sure. Sega has a strong backing here in the west, a particularly strong one that played PSO. The DC has become a sort of cult classic in a way, where people seem to like it even more because it unfortunately flickered out. And that's fine by me, it was an excellent game.

But...the game gets pretty grindy. I didn't mind it particularly much, I knew that it would lead to better content I'd like more. And it did! I'm even still playing, and despite some absolutely ABYSMAL grinding luck (ZERO +10'd rares for the first 3+ months, then 3 in a few days this week!), mediocre rare luck, a dozen fairly expensive 50/50 affix attempts failed in a row, etc. Actually, a baker's dozen, but that's besides the point. I am having some good times on it.

So the initial interest is here, but they'll need to revamp the grinding and affixing system before they release it here. That just won't work. Some people will be met with repeated failure that spends ALL their cash AND leaves their weapon worse for it, and just not play anymore. They'll need to either remove grind loss (and raise loss rate to compensate?), or cap how many times you can fail each grind level (ten failures at +8 means next attempt at +8 will succeed, but 1-7, 9, & 10 are up in the air? Something like that?).

It's not that western players are less patient - which I do think they are - but because they play for fun. Losing two days' worth of work in five minutes because the RNG hates you is not ta all fun. If that system goes unchanged it WILL be the death of PSO2 here in the west, I think.

And why shouldn't it be better? So what if everyone +10's everything? Every month a weapon is outclassed. Last month's 2m rare is this month's 400k firesale, with the exception of the very very very best items such as the ardillou and gramasciento.

[Saffran]

The more intuitive the interface the less likely people are to become frustrated and lose interest. This will be another key factor for the English release which will fall into the localization discussion. Luckily the UI is one of the easier things to change in a game as we've seen with the aforementioned English patch.

What? The interface is excellent. Write a language known to the user in it and hey presto, there's your intuitive interface.
No seriously, I love the UI.

As far as the IP block is concerned, don't kid yourselves, *everybody* knows how to work around it. It costs only 2$ a month if you gather a couple of like-minded users.

No, the real issue is the money. Whether the fake (meseta) or the real one, the system as it is in the game right now in Japan is not "appropriate" for players here (by here I mean non-korean). Gacha / scratch tickets should be burned, but they're an excellent source of income so that's not going to happen.
We should probably compile our thoughts and suggestions into a report and send it to Sakai, shouldn't we? I can handle the part where we do this in japanese, but data collection would probably take me weeks...

[gigawuts]

Why this game will fail miserably in the west unless they remove this utter bullshit RNG:

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2012-10-25T08:47:46 302 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:46 303 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:49 304 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:49 305 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:52 306 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:52 307 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:55 308 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:55 309 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:58 310 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:58 311 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:03 312 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:03 313 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:06 314 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:06 315 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:09 316 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:09 317 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:12 318 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:12 319 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:15 320 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:15 321 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:18 322 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:18 323 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:21 324 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:21 325 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:24 326 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:24 327 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:27 328 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:27 329 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:30 330 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:30 331 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:33 332 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:33 333 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:36 334 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:36 335 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:39 336 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:39 337 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:09 338 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:09 339 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:12 340 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:12 341 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:15 342 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:15 343 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:19 344 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:19 345 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:22 346 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:22 347 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:26 348 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:26 349 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:29 350 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:29 351 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:32 352 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:32 353 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:35 354 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:35 355 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:38 356 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:38 357 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:42 358 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:42 359 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:45 360 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:45 361 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:48 362 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:48 363 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:51 364 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:51 365 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:54 366 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:54 367 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:57 368 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:57 369 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:00 370 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:00 371 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:03 372 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:03 373 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:05 374 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:05 375 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:08 376 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:08 377 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:11 378 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:11 379 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:14 380 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:14 381 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:17 382 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:17 383 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:20 384 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:20 385 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:23 386 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:23 387 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:26 388 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:26 389 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:29 390 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:29 391 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:33 392 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:33 393 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:36 394 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:36 395 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:40 396 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:40 397 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:43 398 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:43 399 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:46 400 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:46 401 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:50 402 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:50 403 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:16 404 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:16 405 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:19 406 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:19 407 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:22 408 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:22 409 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:25 410 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:25 411 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:28 412 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:28 413 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:31 414 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:31 415 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:34 416 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:34 417 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:37 418 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:37 419 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:40 420 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:40 421 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:43 422 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:43 423 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:47 424 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:47 425 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:51 426 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:51 427 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:54 428 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:54 429 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:57 430 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:57 431 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:00 432 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:00 433 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:03 434 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:03 435 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:06 436 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+3 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:06 437 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:20 438 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:20 439 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:28 440 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:28 441 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:32 442 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:32 443 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:36 444 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:36 445 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:41 446 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:41 447 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:45 448 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:45 449 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:49 450 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:49 451 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:53 452 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+9 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:53 453 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:57 454 [Grind(failure) -3] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:57 455 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:02 456 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:02 457 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:06 458 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:06 459 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:10 460 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:10 461 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:14 462 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:14 463 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:18 464 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:18 465 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:22 466 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:22 467 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:25 468 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:25 469 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:53 470 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:53 471 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:56 472 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:56 473 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:53:59 474 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:53:59 475 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:02 476 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:02 477 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:05 478 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:05 479 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:08 480 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:08 481 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:12 482 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:12 483 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:15 484 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:15 485 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:18 486 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:18 487 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:21 488 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:21 489 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:24 490 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:24 491 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:27 492 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:27 493 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:30 494 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:30 495 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:34 496 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:34 497 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:37 498 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:37 499 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:40 500 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:40 501 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:43 502 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:54:43 503 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:54:47 504 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
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[/SPOILER-BOX]

All that. That's over SIX stacks of grinders. All that.

To go from +7 to +8.

On a duel gaze.

I went from like 3.2m to 2.5m in increments of 3.15k.

I just spent 211 * 21.6k = 4.5m meseta to improve my t-atk by like 20 points

And I wasn't even guaranteed to get that.

This is why this game will crash and burn in the west if they don't change something. The RNG in this game is fucking outrageous.

[Arios]

Oh I'm talking about the types that join a party, set themselves to auto follow and go afk while you kill everything.

But yeah, I've met decent Brazilians, but the only thing barring them from getting any better is there connection.

Don't know if you guys are kidding or not, and i don't give a shit what you think about brazilians players, but aim at the players, not the country.

" but the only thing barring them from getting any better is there connection". That line made me sick.

I'm from Brazil, and i agree that players of my country sometimes really are annoying, but as i said earlier stick to the players, there's really no need to talk about connections of Brazil or other shit like that.

You guys make me sick.

[Sierhiet]

Don't know if you guys are kidding or not, and i don't give a shit what you think about brazilians players, but aim at the players, not the country.

" but the only thing barring them from getting any better is there connection". That line made me sick.

I'm from Brazil, and i agree that players of my country sometimes really are annoying, but as i said earlier stick to the players, there's really no need to talk about connections of Brazil or other shit like that.

You guys make me sick.

I'd agree whole-heatedly. From reading this thread, some of you have basically perpetuated the stereotype of the xenophobic native more than the Japanese themselves.

[untrustful]

Pretty much. Some people should've learned a bit of humility after playing on the japanese servers, but I guess conjecture and stereotyping > logic and empathy.

[blace]

It's not just the few of us that make this kind of jibe towards Brazil, the few game communities I've come across generally say the same along with complaints about blocking off the region.

I have never said all of Brazil was like this, but most associate it with either poor connection or the infamous things other Brazilian gamers have done to larger communities. This may seem racist, but this is how the free to play community depicts the region.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJzkiPLbos&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[mailsonds]

How so?

[Sierhiet]

It's not just the few of us that make this kind of jibe towards Brazil, the few game communities I've come across generally say the same along with complaints about blocking off the region.

I have never said all of Brazil was like this, but most associate it with either poor connection or the infamous things other Brazilian gamers have done to larger communities. This may seem racist, but this is how the free to play community depicts the region.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJzkiPLbos&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That doesn't make it alright in the slightest. ಠ_ಠ

My main issue towards the clear prejudices presented in this mentality are that it simply reinforces the dominant stereotype that, the majority of the pure JP servers crowd on these threads are Japanese sympathizers IE the typical weeaboo. "Opinions" such as these get spouted all the time here, to collectively demonize groups of players, as if the experience on the JP servers is a box of chocolates (we all know it's far from it, starting with the recent AmEx shut down). If you guys don't want to be "condemned" for your choice in server, albeit whatever reasons and how stupid they may seem to another individual, then would you kindly please not reinforce the circle-jerk? Please. Remember the golden rule.

[NoiseHERO]

This thread filled with unnecessary whining that nobody outside of this thread cares about yet?

Anyway yeah, here's to hoping we don't have day 1 JP content on day 1 EN servers!

[gigawuts]

I don't know, I'd like day 1 content on the en servers. I'd also like day 2, 3, and 30 content.

[Arios]

It's not just the few of us that make this kind of jibe towards Brazil, the few game communities I've come across generally say the same along with complaints about blocking off the region.

I have never said all of Brazil was like this, but most associate it with either poor connection or the infamous things other Brazilian gamers have done to larger communities. This may seem racist, but this is how the free to play community depicts the region.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJzkiPLbos&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Watched the video and i really don't have any problems with it, there really are stupid players in EVERY country in this freaking world, so when the target is the players i really don't give a damn. I just don't like comments regarding the country. Connections don't get in my way of having a very nice char in PSO2, so some comments really hit the nerve sometimes...

[mailsonds]

humility guys ^^ Nobody is more than Nobody ^^

[NoiseHERO]

I don't know, I'd like day 1 content on the en servers. I'd also like day 2, 3, and 30 content.

and month 4 content

[blace]

Watched the video and i really don't have any problems with it, there really are stupid players in EVERY country in this freaking world, so when the target is the players i really don't give a damn. I just don't like comments regarding the country. Connections don't get in my way of having a very nice char in PSO2, so some comments really hit the nerve sometimes...

Negativity is the best attraction for everything.

I'll just let it die now.

[gigawuts]

and month 4 content

and month 24 content because of inevitable delays www

[Arios]

Negativity is the best attraction for everything.

I'll just let it die now.

Okay dude, you're completely right. The topic talks about how SEGA is going to handle the English server, then you and some people here starts talking trash about my country and i have to stay silent and bow down to you guys? Hearing shit about negativity and attraction? Nope. But, you're completely right, let's focus on the topic's discussion. Sorry for going off topic folks.

[Inazuma]

Why this game will fail miserably in the west unless they remove this utter bullshit RNG:

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2012-10-25T08:45:52 242 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
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2012-10-25T08:45:56 244 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:45:56 245 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:45:59 246 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:45:59 247 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:02 248 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:02 249 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:05 250 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:05 251 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:08 252 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:08 253 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:11 254 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:11 255 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:13 256 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:13 257 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:16 258 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:16 259 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:19 260 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:19 261 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:22 262 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:22 263 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:25 264 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:25 265 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:28 266 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:28 267 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:31 268 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:31 269 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:46:34 270 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:46:34 271 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:00 272 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:00 273 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:03 274 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:03 275 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:06 276 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:06 277 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:09 278 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:09 279 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:12 280 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:12 281 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:16 282 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:16 283 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:19 284 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:19 285 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:22 286 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:22 287 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:25 288 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:25 289 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:28 290 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:28 291 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:31 292 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:31 293 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:34 294 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:34 295 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:37 296 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:37 297 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:40 298 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:40 299 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:43 300 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:43 301 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:46 302 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:46 303 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:49 304 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:49 305 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:52 306 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:52 307 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:55 308 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:55 309 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:47:58 310 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:47:58 311 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:03 312 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:03 313 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:06 314 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:06 315 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:09 316 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:09 317 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:12 318 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:12 319 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:15 320 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:15 321 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:18 322 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:18 323 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:21 324 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:21 325 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:24 326 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:24 327 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:27 328 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:27 329 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:30 330 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:30 331 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:33 332 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:33 333 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:36 334 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:36 335 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:48:39 336 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:48:39 337 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:09 338 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:09 339 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:12 340 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:12 341 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:15 342 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:15 343 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:19 344 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:19 345 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:22 346 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:22 347 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:26 348 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:26 349 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:29 350 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:29 351 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:32 352 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:32 353 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:35 354 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:35 355 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:38 356 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:38 357 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:42 358 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:42 359 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:45 360 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:45 361 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:48 362 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:48 363 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:51 364 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:51 365 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:54 366 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:54 367 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:49:57 368 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:49:57 369 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:00 370 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:00 371 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:03 372 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:03 373 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:05 374 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:05 375 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:08 376 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:08 377 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:11 378 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:11 379 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:14 380 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:14 381 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:17 382 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:17 383 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:20 384 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:20 385 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:23 386 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:23 387 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:26 388 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:26 389 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:29 390 [Grind(failure) -2] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:29 391 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:33 392 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:33 393 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:36 394 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:36 395 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:40 396 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:40 397 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:43 398 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:43 399 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:46 400 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+8 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:46 401 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:50:50 402 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:50:50 403 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:16 404 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:16 405 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:19 406 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:19 407 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:22 408 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:22 409 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:25 410 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:25 411 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:28 412 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:28 413 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:31 414 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+7 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:31 415 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:34 416 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:34 417 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:37 418 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:37 419 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:40 420 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:40 421 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:43 422 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:43 423 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:47 424 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:47 425 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:51 426 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:51 427 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:54 428 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:54 429 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:51:57 430 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:51:57 431 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:00 432 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:00 433 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:03 434 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:03 435 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:06 436 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+3 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:06 437 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:20 438 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+4 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:20 439 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:28 440 [Grind(success) +1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:28 441 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:32 442 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:32 443 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
2012-10-25T08:52:36 444 [Grind(failure) -0] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+5 attr:Fire(15)
2012-10-25T08:52:36 445 :Consume 10065373 gigawuts グラインダー Num(3)
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2012-10-25T08:53:25 468 [Grind(failure) -1] 10065373 gigawuts デュエルゲイズ+6 attr:Fire(15)
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All that. That's over SIX stacks of grinders. All that.

To go from +7 to +8.

On a duel gaze.

I went from like 3.2m to 2.5m in increments of 3.15k.

I just spent 211 * 21.6k = 4.5m meseta to improve my t-atk by like 20 points

And I wasn't even guaranteed to get that.

This is why this game will crash and burn in the west if they don't change something. The RNG in this game is fucking outrageous.
You're doing it wrong. What about the items to increase success rate, lessen failure, or remove all risk of getting weaker?

I've gotten all of my gear to +10, and fairly easily too because I will use extra items to help me go from +8 to +10.

[jooozek]

You're doing it wrong. What about the items to increase success rate, lessen failure, or remove all risk of getting weaker?

I've gotten all of my gear to +10, and fairly easily too because I will use extra items to help me go from +8 to +10.

Wait till you get some 10* to grind, I wonder how many dozens of those protectors you will need to succeed :-?
EDIT: It's also worth noting that risk protectors are only in the AC scratch (-1 protectors don't mean shit if the risk is at -3 lol) and they don't warrant you taking you to the next grind, they just stop you from rolling back when you fail.

[Link1275]

OH hark! Mysterious sage of the future tell me more! Clearly one with talents such as yours need not be galavanting about on a video game message board! Your powers are better reserved for more meaningful endovers like predicting how much bullshit one man can muster in a single sentence.

Far be it from me to impose my foolish notions on such vivid images from the future. Contemptable luck I have being cast in the shadow of a such a supreme seerer as thee. :o

I'm just calculating what the servers will be like from what I know of Sega, and any other game company/franchise that I know of that is similar. We'll have the servers that everyone hates, almost 100% chance of it.


I'm thinking that was some sarcasm...I hope. Joking aside, accessibility is the key to garnering a large audience. The more intuitive the interface the less likely people are to become frustrated and lose interest. This will be another key factor for the English release which will fall into the localization discussion. Luckily the UI is one of the easier things to change in a game as we've seen with the aforementioned English patch.




A strong point to be sure. I've played and passed up many a grind fest here and there but I will argue 2 points for Sega

first- "Its Sega" or more precisely the name brand i.e. "Sega's Phantasy Star". My point being PSO2 will reach a lot of people because Sega fans will eat it up... and Sega fans are a rabid and scary fan base. Just search your name along with the word "sonic" in deviant art for a demonstration of this devotion.

Second- From what I've seen its a quality game. This denotes a number of things that give me more words than I care to muster so to be brief I'll just outline them. It has unique and engaging controls, It has a varied and colorful art style and the world(s) it portrays is deep and pulls you into what can best be described as the Phantasy Star atmosphere.

Go back to forest 1 in PSO for a variable comparison.
Just because it's Sega, doesn't mean that it will attract all Sega fans. A lot of the western Sega fans have either never heard of Phantasy Star, or they are actually Sonic fans(how the heck could anyone stand to play that game anyways).


Brazilians will probably take a liking to a US server over JP as well. Probably. That should be fun.
Yep, free to play usually attracts lots of hackers and BRs(I'm not trying to smash BRs, but I have played enough of F2P games to know that they are usually going to end up being a pain to deal with/be around).


Don't know if you guys are kidding or not, and i don't give a shit what you think about brazilians players, but aim at the players, not the country.

" but the only thing barring them from getting any better is there connection". That line made me sick.

I'm from Brazil, and i agree that players of my country sometimes really are annoying, but as i said earlier stick to the players, there's really no need to talk about connections of Brazil or other shit like that.

You guys make me sick.
First of I don't think anyone is aiming at the country intentionally.

Second off due to the long distance, the connection can be very poor(play a FPS with some Americans or people from another country, or a peer to peer game).

Third off. Have you ever played a game where a group of people from a particular nation setup shop on a server that isn't theirs, and then essentially claimed part of it as theirs? You might want to do some research into it. And I'm talking about they completely take it over, like if you aren't of their nation you get kicked from games. Not like they all congregate in Block 20 so that they all have a place to meet up.

[gigawuts]

You're doing it wrong. What about the items to increase success rate, lessen failure, or remove all risk of getting weaker?

I've gotten all of my gear to +10, and fairly easily too because I will use extra items to help me go from +8 to +10.

So I'm seriously supposed to use protecty whatsits all along the way? Those things aren't cheap, and they don't make much of a difference. 5% and a -1 grind protection won't do much if you're still rolling badly enough.

[Sierhiet]

First of I don't think anyone is aiming at the country intentionally.

I humbly disagree.


Brazilians are the bane of our existence+^_^+


Third off. Have you ever played a game where a group of people from a particular nation setup shop on a server that isn't theirs, and then essentially claimed part of it as theirs? You might want to do some research into it. And I'm talking about they completely take it over, like if you aren't of their nation you get kicked from games. Not like they all congregate in Block 20 so that they all have a place to meet up.

You'll have to clarify. I feel like your essentially saying the Japanese are more tolerant than Brazilians, because your basically dealing with the same thing there. Only difference is, it is their server. Furthermore, you don't have to play with these said individuals so I fail to see the problem, or how this in fact makes it Ok to alienate a country. If they lay claim to specific "spot" on server, why don't you just let them? They'll congregate and interact with each other and with their limited connectivity. The problems you mentioned, will become nonexistent.

[Arios]

I said that i really don't care about the players they can be annoying indeed as the japanese, americans, everyone else. But intentionally or not, i won't see people writing shit and stay quiet.

Enough of this matter already, focus on the topic.

[Sierhiet]

On topic. Given the in particular attention and care they've taken in addressing issues with the JP release, keeping up with the Sakai blogs and keeping the community relatively informed albeit some disagreeable decisions in rectifying some issues, exceeding earning's forecast, stabilizing a relatively positive buzz and press circulation both here and abroad, and overall recognizing that they do in fact have an avid following outside of Japan, I'm fairly confident they won't want to lose the momentum they've garnered. I'll go out on a limb and say the international release will do really well.

[Akaimizu]

I think the International version will do well as well. I mean, we can witness the growth of the Lisa fan club, but now with more people who actually understand what she's saying. :)

Still, it should be neat. And for once, the PC optimization is strong with this release. This game plays well across a good range of PCs and laptops, so they definitely have the audience.

[Saffran]

on the topic that shall not be adressed:
[spoiler-box]I hate ugly controversy topics as much as the next guy, but I've lived through the br VS pangya debacles (yes, plural - they fucked *four* servers) and I *do* think the "br community" is going to be a problem.
That being said, the problem comes from the people and their mindset, and certainly not from the infrastructure.[/spoiler-box]

on the grind problem:
There are items that reduce the grind failure to "no consequences", but those are quite expensive on the player market.

[Link1275]

On topic. Given the in particular attention and care they've taken in addressing issues with the JP release, keeping up with the Sakai blogs and keeping the community relatively informed albeit some disagreeable decisions in rectifying some issues, exceeding earning's forecast, stabilizing a relatively positive buzz and press circulation both here and abroad, and overall recognizing that they do in fact have an avid following outside of Japan, I'm fairly confident they won't want to lose the momentum they've garnered. I'll go out on a limb and say the international release will do really well.


I think the International version will do well as well. I mean, we can witness the growth of the Lisa fan club, but now with more people who actually understand what she's saying. :)

Still, it should be neat. And for once, the PC optimization is strong with this release. This game plays well across a good range of PCs and laptops, so they definitely have the audience.
Will the game have a lot of players and make lots of money? Of course. Will Sega take care of hackers? Probably not.

[Oryana]

I wanna be optimistic, but I can't. Not after Sega made the decision to close the PC/PS2 servers for PSU a few years back. Or when the North American versions of PSP and PSP2 all had their voice acting removed cause they couldnt be bothered to add a little voice acting of their own. I have a feeling before the end, someone is gonna make a full english translation patch for JP PSO2 cause the NA version will be broken/hacked/empty/closed/Whatever-NA-Sega-Did

[blace]

PSP had voice acting and so did PSP2, but in PSP2 it was only limited to cutscenes and random dialog during the game.

As with all games, there will always be people exploiting glitches, bypassing security features, and generally being stupid. Those are things that are also happening now in JP PSO2.

But to use SoA's history is another matter, if only they would give this series the publicity it needs, it may attract a more positive crowd and outlook instead of appealing to a cult following.

[gigawuts]

I really feel like this game could immensely succeed, even if they leave things as they are at release but change as they go along to appeal to the different market.

It's fair to use Sega's history against them, and I don't know what SoJ has been like in the past, but what I've experienced in terms of support, content updates, and just plain communication is miles above what I experienced with SoA on PSOBB (which I played as early as its early access period in the west).

If SoA is able to manage even a fraction of what SoJ has, and SoJ & SoA coordinate and communicate to work towards making customers happy even though they're different markets, which would of course mean changing the game in different ways in each region, then this game will be awesome. I just can't see success if they bluntly try to sell a model that has failed in the past in the west, however. I do think they've become smarter than that, though. Yes, I really just said that.

[FenixStryk]

The only thing I think it's safe to bet on for the American release:
Female clothing will be cheaper on MyShop.

Coincidentally, this may be reason enough for me to consider jumping over...

[Sammickk]

wait a sec was sega's rep this bad at the release on the Dreamcast?? after the NOL code got fixed and item duping i remember them being very strict? my buddy gon BANNED first offense for using his Gameshark to hack in a deleted item, he had to call sega and plead with them to let him back on lol, was funny, but Honestly i don't remember, was PSO ones community really that bad? i remember people running around with hacked spread needle's but i didn't play with people that used those, also that long ago i don't know if PSO had as much to combat as MMO's do now days.... RMT being the biggest problem

Secondly if the players of the NA servers would get organized, such as form a HUGE lol ummm neighbor hood crime watch, and got alot of the baddies Banned through numerous reports, to where we wouldnt let them take our server.... could this work?

[Noblewine]

The english server will have people and the quests. I want to see the quests as well as the mags.
Mags are better than PM's *Cough PSU *Cough*

[Darki]

The english server will have people and the quests. I want to see the quests as well as the mags.
Mags are better than PM's *Cough PSU *Cough*

Mags and PMs are entirely different things, so comparing them is kinda dumb.

[[Ayumi]]

Mags and PMs are entirely different things, so comparing them is kinda dumb.

Since they were announced before PSU came out, I thought of them as Mags.
You feed them, they level up, they fight near you, and after gaining enough energy they do an attack for you (PB).

[Darki]

;2875021']Since they were announced before PSU came out, I thought of them as Mags.
You feed them, they level up, they fight near you, and after gaining enough energy they do an attack for you (PB).

But their concept is entirely different. PMs are, using PSO2 terms, a free "Doo-doo" customizable partner card. They're PSU's item lab. Mags are a living, growing "armor unit" for your character.

Also, the "they do an attack for you" is far from true. Only a handful of versions of PMs had a SUV weapon, not even half of them, and that "energy" that you filled in PSU was yours and yours only regardless of what PM you had (or even if you had one raised, for that matter). In PSU, the "blast" action was completely unrelated to your PM, unlike in PSO or PSO2. For the "fight near you", still there's a difference. One acts as an npc, the other as an automatic extra attack.

[eharima]

Woah, dodo as a mai room feature?? Take my fun points.

[Griffin]

But their concept is entirely different. PMs are, using PSO2 terms, a free "Doo-doo" customizable partner card. They're PSU's item lab. Mags are a living, growing "armor unit" for your character.

Also, the "they do an attack for you" is far from true. Only a handful of versions of PMs had a SUV weapon, not even half of them, and that "energy" that you filled in PSU was yours and yours only regardless of what PM you had (or even if you had one raised, for that matter). In PSU, the "blast" action was completely unrelated to your PM, unlike in PSO or PSO2. For the "fight near you", still there's a difference. One acts as an npc, the other as an automatic extra attack.

And with this, we end the off-topicness.