Not sure if...

[XD-001]

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[Shirai]

xD

Yes,the outfit has a see-through part that shows the panties.

[XD-001]

xD

Yes,the outfit has a see-through part that shows the panties.

Well, obviously I knew that!

It just makes me question what audience Sega really is targeting... with small details like this, ya know? ^^;

[Shirai]

Well, obviously I knew that!

It just makes me question what audience Sega really is targeting... with small details like this, ya know? ^^;

The outline of the panties on the Viola Magica makes me wonder that too...
SEGA also gave the female models nipples, I saw it on an upload when the game was acting up. >_>;;

[Valkyrie Lovrina]

Not sure if terrible Meme or terrible thread. its both

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lovztzBbbb1qai9up.gif

[NoiseHERO]

Yeah.

EVERYONE outfit in this game for fem characters are actually secretly made for guys.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Well lets face it. We know the ratio of male gamers to female gamers is like 100000:1, yet the ratio of female characters to male characters is nearly 100:1.


You do the math.

[NoiseHERO]

It's just the

> girls get 6 new outfits

> guys get 1 new outfit

Thing that bugs me >_>

[Rien]

I don't know, all-race stuff aside casts/caseals look pretty equal to me

(I play a caseal)

[Nidramag]

'Japan'

[BIG OLAF]

SEGA also gave the female models nipples, I saw it on an upload when the game was acting up. >_>;;

PSO2 isn't the only game to do that, at least when it comes to MMOs. The Korean version of TERA, for instance, has nipples on all female models, and hell, even has outfits that purposely show nip-slips (especially on Castanics). In the international version, all that stuff was taken out and/or censored, though.

[XD-001]

'Japan'

Something about the bluntness of this reply just made me laugh so hard... :-P Thank you for that.

[Meji]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/32746827.jpg

[Nidramag]

Something about the bluntness of this reply just made me laugh so hard... :-P Thank you for that.
~~ :-D

[Shirai]

PSO2 isn't the only game to do that, at least when it comes to MMOs. The Korean version of TERA, for instance, has nipples on all female models, and hell, even has outfits that purposely show nip-slips (especially on Castanics). In the international version, all that stuff was taken out and/or censored, though.


I know it's not the only game that does that...many other MMOs do the same thing., but I really never expected SEGA to.
I honestly expect it to just...basically be nippleless, lol.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I expected them to

[Coatl]

We are all perverts for playing PSO2.
That is all.

[Zyrusticae]

Nipples? Please! That's tame.

If they modeled genitalia that would be noteworthy! (They won't, it's illegal in Japan lol)

[Tsumiya]

I dont think it looks that bad DX

[Seravi Edalborez]

I don't know, all-race stuff aside casts/caseals look pretty equal to me

(I play a caseal)

Gundam vs sexy balljoints, plastic hair, and cleavage armor is equal? <_<

[Zenobia]

Ohhhhh snaaaaappp takeeeee coverrrrrrrr!!

[Code-red]

things like this don't surprise me anymore since there are a lot of mmo games that do these type things. Blade and Soul would be a other example.

[NoiseHERO]

Wait the female models have nipples...?

There's NO reason they should have nipples if this game is supposed to be Teen rated....

Then again I dunno how Japans system works and if something like that would be taken out for the US version. But otherwise... I can't be the only one that thinks that's kind of low. at least AFTER you add on all the outfits being some 30 year old japanese guy's pornstar fantasy wardrobe.

OR at least like shirai said I wouldn't expect it from SEGA, I mean we're all perverts here but... that kinda doesn't justify how immoral that sounds to me... It's like hackers finding prince peachXbowser hentai in a mario game.(Alright not as extreme, I know, shutthefuckup.) But yeah.

[UnLucky]

It's just the

> girls get 6 new outfits

> guys get 1 new outfit

Thing that bugs me >_>

but none go over 300k, and that's only to fuel the recoloring of the real outfits

[Reiketsu]

Wait the female models have nipples...?

There's NO reason they should have nipples

Yes, they have for whatever reason... and I'm seriously asking myself why?
Apart from the fact it's just wrong, it's not like there's actually a purpose to it...
You can't see them through clothes (at least not yet), anyways... Apparently, the only way to see them at all, is to get rid of the underwear in the character creator... so what's the point?

If only SEGA would put so much attention to detail into other areas of the game...

[Magus_84]

If only SEGA would put so much attention to detail into other areas of the game...

Wouldn't make them as much money.

For all the people being shocked that Sega would make this as fanservicey as possible...it's Sega.

Female Newmen (in general), Voloyal Set, Bayonetta...come on now.

They're far from innocent.

[Reiketsu]

Wouldn't make them as much money.

For all the people being shocked that Sega would make this as fanservicey as possible...it's Sega.

Female Newmen (in general), Voloyal Set, Bayonetta...come on now.

They're far from innocent.

Well, I was expecting stuff like swimsuits, bouncy chests and that a lot of outfits would let you peek at your character's panties, but...
Nipples a normal player will never be able to see...? There's no point for such a thing to be there!
Unless we'll eventually really get outfits where erect nipples shine through... X_X"

[Nidramag]

Wait the female models have nipples...?

There's NO reason they should have nipples if this game is supposed to be Teen rated....

Oh yes, teenage girls and boys are both rather clueless about their existence~

[Magus_84]

Nipples a normal player will never be able to see...? There's no point for such a thing to be there!
Unless we'll eventually really get outfits where erect nipples shine through... X_X"

They'll probably be introduced with the June 1-year anniversary event.

[Shirai]

This is what I was talking about with the earlier post about the panties on the Viola Magica...
[SPOILER-BOX](Found on the uploader)
http://www.pso2-uploader.info/uploda/src/up32364.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I see it.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Bayonetta...yeah...Bullet Witch who summons a magical beast that they suggest (by the way it's summoned) is made of her pubic hair, or in the every least she gives birth to it.

But yeah nipples are so not Sega.

/totallackofshock

[NoiseHERO]

Oh yes, teenage girls and boys are both rather clueless about their existence~

Damn straight.

Am so prepared for sheep trolling this time, as in 20 people rushing in to basically say "big deal" after one or two people already beat em to it. But yeah all I'm saying is, there's no justifying that shit, SEGA being scumbags or not and nipples not being a big deal or not.

[UnLucky]

Wouldn't make them as much money.

For all the people being shocked that Sega would make this as fanservicey as possible...it's Sega.

Female Newmen (in general), Voloyal Set, Bayonetta...come on now.

They're far from innocent.


Bayonetta...yeah...Bullet Witch who summons a magical beast that they suggest (by the way it's summoned) is made of her pubic hair, or in the every least she gives birth to it.

But yeah nipples are so not Sega.

/totallackofshock

what does platinum games have to do with sega's nipples?

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Sega put their name on it. It means that by extension they support the content. And before you argue about it look at it this way:

They put their name on it knowing the content would be controversial but they wanted the money they knew the game would bring, so even if they weren't emphatic about it, they didn't have an issue with it either. It tells us that Sega is not a child oriented publisher/developer and is perfectly willing to use the sex angle to make their money.

Does that really even need to be explained?

[Magus_84]

Damn straight.

Am so prepared for sheep trolling this time, as in 20 people rushing in to basically say "big deal" after one or two people already beat em to it. But yeah all I'm saying is, there's no justifying that shit, SEGA being scumbags or not and nipples not being a big deal or not.

If Sega are scumbags and nipples aren't a big deal, then why does Sega need to justify their inclusion?

The JP playerbase for which PSO 2 is the intended audience doesn't really seem to need or want justification for it. And judging by this being far more successful than they seem to have expected, an occasional view of nipple or nipple-like outline doesn't seem to be hurting their prospects any.

As Zyrusticae has mentioned, Japan has laws on displaying certain portions of the human anatomy in media. I don't think display of nipples or nipple-like-objects gets hit by those.

If anything, I'm far more offended by the statistical imbalance granted to female newmen to make them the most popular race/gender combination. There's no justification for that. <_<

[Aeris]

Its kinna funny this topic was made back then about big bewbed lolis and such and now this about underwear and nipples lol.

[Nidramag]

Its kinna funny this topic was made back then about big bewbed lolis and such and now this about underwear and nipples lol.
This topic was made about underwear.

WE MUST DISCUSS UNDERWEAR.

[NoiseHERO]

If Sega are scumbags and nipples aren't a big deal, then why does Sega need to justify their inclusion?

It's the immoral and possibly disturbing mindset behind it that disturbs me. And that there's even a reason to want to defend it?

SEGA is terrible and everyone does it may be... "why is it even a big deal" to some. But is me seeing this as a BAD thing in general wrong? Of course this just goes to a giant list of terrible things they've done with this game. But this is not only a new one to me, but a SLIGHTLY newer low.

If they don't have to be justified, my extended disgust is not going to be unjustified. >_>

[Coatl]

This topic was made about underwear.

WE MUST DISCUSS UNDERWEAR.

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Let the discussion continue.

[Magus_84]

It's the immoral and possibly disturbing mindset behind it that disturbs me. And that there's even a reason to want to defend it?

SEGA is terrible and everyone does it may be... "why is it even a big deal" to some. But is me seeing this as a BAD thing in general wrong? Of course this just goes to a giant list of terrible things they've done with this game. But this is not only a new one to me, but a SLIGHTLY newer low.

If they don't have to be justified, my extended disgust is not going to be unjustified. >_>

I think our difference in opinion here is that I don't see this as "immoral".

But that's what opinions are for. I'm more arguing against people being surprised at this.

Now, if it somehow makes it to the US uncensored, then I'd be surprised. The US is far more prudish/"reserved"/"moral" in some instances than Japan. And then on the other hand, both Jersey Shore and Toddlers in Tiaras exist.

Though I'm also in the camp of being annoyed that the females have far better/more options for appearance than the males, and every male set that's been released for females has been a better version of it. But that's more just irritation than anything. They're pandering to their audience, and their audience likes fanservice.

[NoiseHERO]

I think our difference in opinion here is that I don't see this as "immoral".

But that's what opinions are for. I'm more arguing against people being surprised at this.

Now, if it somehow makes it to the US uncensored, then I'd be surprised. The US is far more prudish/"reserved"/"moral" in some instances than Japan. And then on the other hand, both Jersey Shore and Toddlers in Tiaras exist.

Though I'm also in the camp of being annoyed that the females have far better/more options for appearance than the males, and every male set that's been released for females has been a better version of it. But that's more just irritation than anything. They're pandering to their audience, and their audience likes fanservice.

It's both a combination of this and what's bugging you that irks me even more. It's like alright sex sells... But seems like they're going all out on it. In my opinion maybe going TOO far.

But I guess part of that is because it's exactly what the players want and like literally 70-90% of this game's population is of female characters. Which, I bet less than 30% of the player base in general is female. It started at 7X% but I bet it went up since then, since that was beta.

Which is why I expect a storm of people rushing in here to make me look like a straw man or sheep troll me at some point.


And where's our speedos and bulge sliders and like at least 12 more outfits that don't look like shit guys could gotten alongside all the girls. Not only do they get MORE outfits, but they all look better. I've been stuck with HUmar, Tuxedo, and insertwhateverunrememberable outfit for eons. Best thing since was this mid 2000's emogoth widelegs baggypants outfit! D<

[Magus_84]

It's both a combination of this and what's bugging you that irks me even more. It's like alright sex sells... But seems like they're going all out on it. In my opinion maybe going TOO far.

But I guess part of that is because it's exactly what the players want and like literally 70-90% of this game's population is of female characters. Which, I bet less than 30% of the player base in general is female. It started at 7X% but I bet it went up since then, since that was beta.

Which is why I expect a storm of people rushing in here to make me look like a straw man or sheep troll me at some point.


And where's our speedos and bulge sliders and like at least 12 more outfits that don't look like shit guys could gotten alongside all the girls. Not only do they get MORE outfits, but they all look better. I've been stuck with HUmar, Tuxedo, and insertwhateverunrememberable outfit for eons. Best thing since was this mid 2000's emogoth widelegs baggypants outfit! D<

Chic Jaeger (or whatever the Ranewm default is) isn't bad either. At least, the clear tea and...whatever the black/red one is aren't. The default's non-changeable colors are too garish though. But my main's a male FO.

[SolRiver]

I don't see what's the big deal?

[Zyrusticae]

Yeah okay this is silly.

Nipples are completely, perfectly natural and their inclusion is just a concession for anatomical correctness. If anything I more offended by the assertion that nipples are something that must never see the light of day for some arbitrary reason even though males get to trot out their nipples all day long (seriously, fuck double standards).

By the way there are some Western games that include nipples on female models even though you're never intended to see them (APB, Oblivion before they got patched out) and some that include them fully intending you to see them (Age of Conan, the Witcher series), so it's not a particularly Japanese thing or even a fanservice thing, it's just a thing and it's a thing that's going to be done when artists don't want their models to have Barbie-style nudity.

Now, as far as the sex divide when it comes to outfit goes, that's just something you'll have to deal with when the player base is as heavily slanted towards one sex as it is. They're here to make money and that means selling to the biggest slice of their customer base as much as possible. It's clearly working, too. Can't blame them for doing the only rational thing to do as a business that needs income.

[NoiseHERO]

Yeah okay this is silly.

Nipples are completely, perfectly natural and their inclusion is just a concession for anato

WELP TIME TO GO!

It's been fun everybody!

But now it's time to call the men in white shirts.

[gigawuts]

It's both a combination of this and what's bugging you that irks me even more. It's like alright sex sells... But seems like they're going all out on it. In my opinion maybe going TOO far.

But I guess part of that is because it's exactly what the players want and like literally 70-90% of this game's population is of female characters. Which, I bet less than 30% of the player base in general is female. It started at 7X% but I bet it went up since then, since that was beta.

Which is why I expect a storm of people rushing in here to make me look like a straw man or sheep troll me at some point.


And where's our speedos and bulge sliders and like at least 12 more outfits that don't look like shit guys could gotten alongside all the girls. Not only do they get MORE outfits, but they all look better. I've been stuck with HUmar, Tuxedo, and insertwhateverunrememberable outfit for eons. Best thing since was this mid 2000's emogoth widelegs baggypants outfit! D<

I'm sure the playerbase never even changed.

They just grew out of the phase when they thought playing as a chick made you gay, and now play with a full-time semi.

like me with my robot

[Cyron Tanryoku]

While you're all complaining about nipples I'm going to complain about something actually important...

Why can't I have cast eyes

[Zyrusticae]

While you're all complaining about nipples I'm going to complain about something actually important...

Why can't I have cast eyes
This is a good question.

I want my glowy implant eyes!

[NoiseHERO]

While you're all complaining about nipples I'm going to complain about something actually important...

Why can't I have cast eyes

Yo eyes is already scary put the glasses back on. D<

[SolRiver]

I WOULD like to have option for glowing eyes...

[gigawuts]

I want glowing nipples.

[UnLucky]

Where are my glow in the dark panties?

[redroses]

Yeah okay this is silly.

Nipples are completely, perfectly natural and their inclusion is just a concession for anatomical correctness.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but to male models have nipples?
And if not, then they sure as heck didn't add the nipples for anatomical correctness.

[Resanoca]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but to male models have nipples?
And if not, then they sure as heck didn't add the nipples for anatomical correctness.They do, actually. Like, a grey-ish oval patch of color, but still.

[Syklo]

I WOULD like to have option for glowing eyes...

inb4sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I don't know what any of those are, but they sound disgusting

[Coatl]

I don't know what any of those are, but they sound disgusting

Yes, naruto is very disgusting.

[Noblewine]

They pulled the same thing in PSU and the PSP games. I'm not really surprised. I was tinkering with the character creation and some hairstyles are the same for males. Hopefully pso2 won't repeat what psu did with the balance of outfits for either gender. I like how in psp2 they balanced the outfits so they will follow the same example and do it again in pso2.

[Rien]

Gundam vs sexy balljoints, plastic hair, and cleavage armor is equal? <_<

Hey, the Hurion set was amazing :C I wants.

[Vashyron]

Wot are you guys even talking about with the nipples?

The base model for the characters is the underwear one you see in character creation, forcing yourself to be equipped with nothing is that.

While it's still in the realm of possibly the game has a model like that stashed somewhere, I do expect you to have seen a "photoshop."

[SammyKiller]

I'm tired of all you douchebags that only play the game for your stupid loli-dressup thanks to you SEGA has made PSO2 the joke of all "MMOs" hell I don't think it should be called an MMO, just a nerd simulator.

Honestly get out,
Ex PSO/PSU REAL PLAYER.

Good night.

[The Walrus]

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[Cyron Tanryoku]

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/9PkBS.jpg?1[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Rien]

http://i.imgur.com/j0Qn0.jpg

This should seriously be on the first page >.>

[gigawuts]

no true scotsman pso player, my favorite

[BIG OLAF]

I don't think it should be called an MMO, just a nerd simulator.


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[Syklo]

Now we're not sure what this "not sure if" topic is about anymore.

So i'm not sure if we should continue.

[blace]

I'm tired of all you douchebags that only play the game for your stupid loli-dressup thanks to you SEGA has made PSO2 the joke of all "MMOs" hell I don't think it should be called an MMO, just a nerd simulator.

Honestly get out,
Ex PSO/PSU REAL PLAYER.

Good night.
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[Coatl]

What is this I don't even...
just...just
Just close the thread.

Didn't know new years eve hangovers extended this long.
>_>

[NoiseHERO]

This thread is mad Dinel

[Cagedtaytay]

Hijacked!

[Nidramag]

I believe this thread has a serious psychological undertone about the average young children and how far the media exposes them to different parts of life at earlier and earlier ages. A thread about excess because what people like - things such as sex, food, etc., things that were once such a goal because they were more essential to survival have now become such a simple convenience that there has simply been continuous inflation in it's availability and our own evolutionary desires now work against us. People have simultaneously developed standards about when exactly children should be exposed to elements like this because for most of their lives it is going to be a fixation that they need to be able to understand and control. A young child may not understand the implications of anything of a sexual nature simply because they are not developed enough to think ahead in the future. This has been applied to different body parts over the years (ankles, wrists; now breasts and thighs, etc. closer to intimate zones in America and Japan, but some places have completely different concepts) and people have taken the reasoning out of the sheltering of children. The real ethical debate here is when children should be exposed to more realistic and addictive real-world topics, like sex, and it tends to scare most parents because without the understanding that may be required to be safe and happy, kids can seriously fuck up their lives.

We're on topic.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q172/nidramag/PSOWt_zps5bd7f19d.jpg

[UnLucky]

I think this topic is about [spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/zv1cM.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[Cagedtaytay]

I think this topic is about [spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/zv1cM.jpg[/spoiler-box]

PANTIEEEEEEEEEES!

[Anon_Fire]

How long were you away from the last Phantasy Star, Sammy-killer? Like 2 years?

[blace]

How long were you away from the last Phantasy Star, Sammy-killer? Like 2 years?

I'd say longer, PSU had this in the game as well and claims to be a real PSU player.

[Sayara]

Well this elevated quickly. But enough talk have at you.