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Crazyleo
Feb 17, 2013, 09:18 PM
I was just wondering if anything was mentioned story wise; that connects PSO and PSU to PSO2?

blace
Feb 17, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nothing. There's no connection in PSO2 linking itself to the last two in the series besides PSO in the name.

yoshiblue
Feb 17, 2013, 09:57 PM
Would be cool to team up with a lost HUmar in a parallel universe and work together to go back to your homes.

eharima
Feb 17, 2013, 11:37 PM
The date system in pso2 (A.P) could indicate after pioneer?

gigawuts
Feb 17, 2013, 11:40 PM
Indeed, while it's been stated in interviews PSO2 takes place a couple (or several?) hundred years after PSO1, and the ships are designed pretty similarly (some much more than others), also the date system, there is essentially zero connection. The closest you'll get is reused weapons and characters in trailers being named after NPC's from PSO1.

On that note, Lionel was apparently a FOcast, by the way. So that's neat.

eharima
Feb 18, 2013, 02:27 AM
Indeed, while it's been stated in interviews PSO2 takes place a couple (or several?) hundred years after PSO1,


The date system in pso2 (A.P) could indicate after pioneer?


also the date system, there is essentially zero connection.

seems legit, citation needed, contradictory ect ect.

Zorafim
Feb 18, 2013, 02:29 AM
There's no strong story elements connecting the series. However, there was a chapter in some PSU spinoff that said something about it being connected to PSO through... What was it, wormhole? Any connection between any of the PS series is very loose.

Mike
Feb 18, 2013, 02:55 AM
There's no strong story elements connecting the series. However, there was a chapter in some PSU spinoff that said something about it being connected to PSO through... What was it, wormhole? Any connection between any of the PS series is very loose.
In Infinity, the protagonists use subspace travel to travel to post-explosion, pre-Rico absorption Ragol, save Rico, fight Olga Flow, and save Flowen.

Anduril
Feb 18, 2013, 03:40 AM
In Infinity, the protagonists use subspace travel to travel to post-explosion, pre-Rico absorption Ragol, save Rico, fight Olga Flow, and save Flowen.
So they basically created an alternate timeline?

Darki
Feb 18, 2013, 03:46 AM
There has to be some connection, if not direct, since the series has many cliffhangers that would enable any connection if they wanted to make it explicit. Even in the classic series you have time-travelling wormholes; subspace travel from infinity and now we got plain timeline mindfucks in PSO2... Hell if I'm not mistaken in the classic series they even have earthlings as enemies, as in Falz came to Earth thanks to something that happens in one of the games (a sealed falz in a ship that goes through a wormhole and ends coming here or something like that) and took over us and made us go to the Algol system to fight against them.

To me the series seems connected kinda like Zeldas: Dark Falz (or better, the profound Darkness) is always the same exact "entity", and on each game we're told how different civilizations across time and space fight against it.

blace
Feb 18, 2013, 03:51 AM
So they basically created an alternate timeline?
More or less. You never encounter anyone from Pioneer 2 although a CG scene does show Ash, Kireek, Sue and Rupika in it.

ZER0 DX
Feb 18, 2013, 04:12 AM
So they basically created an alternate timeline?

Not so much making an alternate timeline as it was nullifying the "bad ends" of PSO from ever happening.

I'd imagine most of the major events and quest lines of PSO still ended up taking place, but Falz just never gained Rico as a host and therefore nothing bad happened to her. Same with Flowen since you defeat Olga Flow before he's completely taken over by it and end up saving his life in the process. They never elaborated on if Dark Falz even managed to get revived at all on Ragol since Rico was no longer taken over as a host. Chances are it either never did, or it was so laughably weak without a host that it was defeated easily. Flowen still had to have been experimented on with the D-cells however, otherwise that fight would never have happened in Infinity.

Falz not existing makes it impossible for Episode 3 to have even happened though, so if Infinity nullified the existence of Dark Falz appearing on Ragol, Sega essentially rendered the plot of that game non-existent. Also in that regard, they nullified all of PSU's Falz plot as well since the Falz in that game has memories of Ragol (most likely projected by the Profound Darkness, it's very unlikely it's the same Falz). If Ragol Falz never existed, PSU Falz would have no memory of it either and none of the subspace Ragol areas would have been able to exist.