Controller shopping for PSO2

[Drifting Fable]

Hey, I'm looking for some opinions on the types of controllers people use for PSO2.

So I used to use this controller:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lscreen/802180l1.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
Despite all of its flack from a lot of people, it still works just fine as it did when I bought it cheap years ago. (Much like my copy of sonic 06.....) However PSO2 has shredded through all my thumbstick rubber, even my grip-it pads. Leaving me to unfortunately put down an otherwise alright controller.

Currently I'm making do with the standard 360 wired but its feels too stiff for me compared to my previous controller. Thus, I'm seeking a replacement primary wired controller.

While I'd like to see a clicky, loose feel my older contoller had; I am above all in search for a controller with more buttons than the standard controller. Why more buttons? Mainly because I want to map certain macros to my extra controller buttons to incorporate some of the advantages that the keyboard has over the controller and have my hands moving back and forth from both less often.

Currently my prime candidate so far is a razer sabertooth (http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-sabertooth). While I understand the triggers will not take button combinations, I plan to use my blackwidow software for the macros and some form of keyboard-to-controller button mapping software to work around the razer sabertooth's technical faults. Which should hopefully give me the best of both worlds.

So is my thought process here seem logical? Or is there a better controller out there to suit my needs outside of my somewhat razer fanboyism? ^^;

EDIT: Buying the Razer Sabertooth. I now need some good macro software recommendations to use to create and then map to my controller buttons. My Razer blackwidow software works fine but will not allow for controller mapping because of how the key presses activate the marco on the keyboard only, hence I need a replacement.

[Zenobia]

Here is what I use it's a 360 Saber Tooth really nice too fits in your hands like it was meant for it nice sleek design too if i do say so myself<3.

Not only that it gives you another 6 extra buttons to play with and boy is it nice i use Joy-2-Key and customized mine a bit to fit each class so right now im in heaven~

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It will cost you about 75$ for it if you have the money to spare lool just throwing that out der.

[EvilMag]

Here is what I use it's and 360 Saber Tooth really nice too fits in your hands like it was meant for it nice sleek design too if i do say so myself<3.

Not only that it gives you another 6 extra buttons to play with and boy is it nice i use Joy-2-Key and customized mine a bit to fit each class so right now im in heaven~

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It will cost you about 75$ for it if you have the money to spare lool just throwing that out der.
Friend of mine has that controller and let me use it once and wow, it is fucking amazing. If I have the money, I may consider buying this.

[Swaggerjak]

I simply use a Gamestop brand wired 360 controller. I love it, personally.

[エミーゼル]

I just use the standard wired 360 controller.

that gamestop controller image in OP... just :rant: that actually exists? the design looks totally uncomfortable

I have heard good things about the razer one from my friend, but I don't know.

[Drifting Fable]

Heh its something of a tiny thing (which is kind of odd that I like it considering I have big hands.), a bit curved upwards and closer to the size of a wireless controller.

Here's a quick crappy phone screen cap side view from my own controller with hands for comparison.
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/q3HjsLu.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Anyhow sounds like theres a bit of justification for the love for the Sabertooth. And nice to see my macro concept has already been proven. I'll look around for it at a good price.

My final query is whether anyone uses any kind of thumbstick covers/armors on their controllers. I used to use grip-its but they've all torn. Thought the one grip-it on my right stick still works and it still has the original thumbstick rubber underneath too. Maybe the rubber tore due to its low quality build, but I'd like to be prepared this time. Especially on a 75$ controller

[zrogst]

Get the Razer Onza. This is the ultimate 360 controller. The cord is awesome - quality braided cable and LOOONG. And it has an extra set of programmable bumpers on it.

[vPharaohv]

I use a normal wireless xbox 360 controller. I bought a wireless adapter for computers for like 8 bucks or something.

[Lumpen Thingy]

get this for $30. I have an orange one and its fucking awesome and if you don't like the lights you can turn it off anytime http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h1vw3-RpDZw/TIlNHNzV1NI/AAAAAAAAAAU/KjL4psgEPbo/s1600/DSCF0065.JPG

[Inazuma]

I used the Sabertooth for a few weeks and it is the best controller. Thanks to having more buttons on the top of the controller, you can setup a lot of toggle buttons. Having buttons on the back is very nice for stuff like lock on and jumping.

Using joytokey I was able to fit everything I could think of on the controller, even all 10 chat shortcuts.

By the way, the Sabertooth comes with grips you can attach to the analog sticks.

Unfortunately, the RB button broke on my Sabertooth, so I am back to using my Dual Shock 3 for now. I will get my replacement Sabertooth from Razer next Tuesday. Having to go back to a Dual Shock 3 after using the Sabertooth has completely spoiled me. Having more toggle keys is great but the back buttons are my favorite thing. Microsoft really needs to have back buttons like that on their Durango controller.

[Drifting Fable]

Man you're right about those cups!

Well that settles it I NEED a Razer Sabertooth. It was designed for my needs!

[Zipzo]

Man you're right about those cups!

Well that settles it I NEED a Razer Sabertooth. It was designed for my needs!

The issue right now is that getting a legit new Sabertooth from hands you can trust right now is difficult, the stock is backed up and anywhere that orders from the manufacturer (Razer themselves, Amazon) don't have it ready to ship for like months. You can't order it even from Razer at the moment.

Hopefully that fixes itself soon, or you could just get one from ebay, but some people like to get there expensive products either straight from the manufacturer or another trusted source who does the same.

Power A Fusion has a wired tournament controller on the market that is much easier to find at the moment that has glowiness under the buttons and analog sticks, but isn't overly glowy like the afterglows. It's got a hefty price tag like all the other premium wired xbox controllers though (cost me around ¥8500 which is like maybe around 80-90 dollars in USD.

[Noc Codez]

This is my baby.. call me spoiled but I love wirless controllers ^^;
http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p321/NOCCODEZ/microsoft-xbox-360-wireless-controller-black-pc-windows-game-pad-castleit-1112-10-castleIT117_zps20ea0eaf.jpg

[racerapj]

This is what I use, Logitech Chillstream Wired Controller. Gets the job done and keeps the hands nice and cool.

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[Preposterous Rhino]

I don't use a controller for PSO2, but a standard xbox 360 controller is my favorite controller. If you get a standard xbox controller, make sure you get one with a transforming d-pad (the original d-pad BLOWS CHUNKS). I have a blue chrome 360 controller, cost $55 I believe. The chrome controllers cost $5 more than regular ones.

I mean, dat controller.
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[Angelo]

I've talked about this thing before two or three times on these boards, but I love it:
Cideko Conqueror
http://i.imgur.com/MzZzAR7.jpg

D-pad feels a lot like the Saturn D-pad. Joysticks are nice, face buttons are comfortable, and the L2 and R2 are digital, not analog. Wireless or wired (USB), has a very long battery life (about 15-20 hours). Has a built in gyro so the controller can be tilted and used as a mouse.

I've mapped all my mates and whatnot to the F keys. Hitting shortcuts like n/m for the map become second nature after a bit of muscle memory training.

I bought this controller specifically for PSO2 during the alpha waves. It's been great through the whole ride.

[Drifting Fable]

The issue right now is that getting a legit new Sabertooth from hands you can trust right now is difficult, the stock is backed up and anywhere that orders from the manufacturer (Razer themselves, Amazon) don't have it ready to ship for like months. You can't order it even from Razer at the moment.

Hopefully that fixes itself soon, or you could just get one from ebay, but some people like to get there expensive products either straight from the manufacturer or another trusted source who does the same.
I see, that is quite problematic. Thought I wouldn't have to deal with finding products in stock for a while after I hunted far and low for my cherished Halo 4 Warhead. :-?

Well I've still got a working controller, perhaps I should just purchase it now from amazon and wait X amount of months for it to arrive? ^^;

[Grady219]

What I use.
http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/downloads/1/25/24121/thumb_620x2000/sixaxis-controller-2.jpg

[Gama]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XHlXiD9Yo

being able to ajust analog stick resistance is a good thing.

[Drifting Fable]

/shameless month old thread bump

Deciding to take the plunge on the Razer Sabertooth. Amazon won't ship me untill about a month so I'm stuck waiting until then.

I was trying out joy 2 key to see if I could get a simple marco like knux dashing to map to my xbox controler. Then I discovered that my Blackwidow macro program doesn't work like that.

So like keyboard Num* will do a Macro
Num* mapped to a controller will just do "*" instead of a macro.

So I need recommendations on what to people use for macro software, hopefully that should work out just fine for what I want to do.

Figured I should put it here instead of making an entirely new thread about it.

[VectormanX]

i've been using a Horipad EX2 Turbo, and it works fine. Has lots of nice features and it's not too terribly expensive.

[Darki]

I'm currently waiting to get this one at home:

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This is the best concept I can think of to play PSO2 and other games that allow for some form of FPS-like action. I don't think that the quality of my game would increase that much even if I got a Razer gamepad since thanks to Xpadder I got the button setting part very wel controlled (in fact with my current setup I have too many buttons in the gamepad).

I didn't try it yet, but I've tried the idea by playing with mouse and a Nintendo Wii nunchuk in other FPS style games such as Portal 2 or Bioshock. It's just awesome. It has most of the advantages of playing with keyboard and mouse, but for people used to play with gamepads it's much more intuitive to use with the left hand. It has more buttons than your 360 controller (13 buttons, not sure if there's a 15th or is it exclusive to configure the gamepad itself, and it also has a "shake" action ripped-off Wiimote xD), not as many as you'd get playing with the keyboard, but for me much more comfortable. Also considering that the Razer Sabertooth is limited to the original 360 number of configurable buttons anf all you can do is relocate them, for me is more useful to have it this way.

I believe that this sort of thing paired with a program like Xpadder or JoyToKey is probably the best idea to play PSO2. But I'll tell you when I get it at home and set. The only thing I don't like is that it has all these labels written all over the gamepad and it looks kinda ugly, but if I end "adopting" it as my main controller I'll give it a good paintjob or wear them off, probably.

[Drifting Fable]

My the concept is certainly interesting. Combining the best of both worlds for an intriguing experience. A shame I'm one a the peculiar individuals that uses trackball mice or I might be even more interested in this model. Its certainly something I'd read up on some more should I be willing to return to standard mouses some day.

I'm going to attempt experimenting with Xpadder, it looks like it has a macro program built in the software so that knocks out two birds with one stone. Hope it works out when I play around with it more today.

[Darki]

Well, the best part of that controller is the nunchuk part, fortunately they don't necessarily need to be used together with the mouse so you'd be able to play with your trackball and the nunchuk as well (although I'm not sure if you'd have enough buttons with it). Of course it'd be maybe too expensive just to leave half of it unused, but I've seen reviews of people who did that.

Xpadder is certainly a good program, is worth the bucks it costs specially for games like PSO2 that have so many functions that don't fit in a gamepad normally (or don't have native support for them). But it only works with gamepad, so unless I understood it wrong and you play with one and not with trackball and keyboard, it'd be impossible to use.

[Drifting Fable]

Oh I did forget to mention that I do main with a controler. Games like DMC really drilled in the habit of controlling melee action games with a controler, can't imagine playing any other way.

I seem to be having difficulty getting Xpadder working in PSO2 though. Probably because the game already has controler support and is expecting my non mapped Y button on an ingame function rather than emulated keypresses.

[Darki]

You gotta give admin permissions to Xpadder for it to work (and restart the computer for it to sink, I dunno why but everytime I try to set a new version of Xpadder it doesn't work just with the permissions, it needs the restart). Also, you'd better disable that key ("empty" it in the gamepad configuration menu) or else the game will register both actions.

[BlankM]

Are people getting xpadder to work in Windows 7? I've tried all manner of combinations, starting it as admin, starting PSO2 without admin, starting both as admin and haven't gotten it to stay. It will literally work with every program but PSO2.

[Darki]

I'm using Xpadder at this very moment, in Win7 x64 on PSO2. The program is somewhat tricky to use with the game, but it does work. I remember I had to try many times until it worked and I'm not sure of what did I do that made it work. As I mentioned in my previous post, try setting it as admin in the icon's options, for all accounts if necessary, and then restart the computer. If it doesn't work I'm not sure what's the problem. =(

[Drifting Fable]

You gotta give admin permissions to Xpadder for it to work (and restart the computer for it to sink, I dunno why but everytime I try to set a new version of Xpadder it doesn't work just with the permissions, it needs the restart). Also, you'd better disable that key ("empty" it in the gamepad configuration menu) or else the game will register both actions.

Where should I disable the key is it a function in the game, xpadder, or a control pannel option I'm missing? That might be the issue.

I've restarted and I'm getting the same issues, inputs not registering on the game but in the regular windows stuff is just fine. I've got the rumble on my inputs so the program is indeed working. Hummm. :-?

[Vickie]

XBOX 360 Controller, that's all, I don't have one so i use a w/e... I't aint about me so yea, XBOX 360 controller.

[Boney010]

I use the Mad Catz XBox 360 controller. It's comfortable enough and it was only $25. If you want a budget controller, I highly recommend it.

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I got mine from Target.

Edit: fixed.

[HIT0SHI]

I use the Mad Catz XBox 360 controller. It's comfortable enough and it was only $25. If you want a budget controller, I highly recommend it.

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I got mine from Target.

Your link is broken.
EDIT: You fixed it! Those triggers look really comfy. :3

[ShinMaruku]

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/b16sdm/Juri%20Custom%20Arcade%20Fight%20Stick/1.jpg
Don't use the stick... I did it as joke. :P

[Darki]

Where should I disable the key is it a function in the game, xpadder, or a control pannel option I'm missing? That might be the issue.

The game shouldn't "conflict" with Xpadder. In the worst case scenario the only problem you'd have is that the game and Xpadder both trigger a function simultaneously and they are both used at the same time. Imagine that you have the "X" button as "attack" in the game settings, and in Xpadder you put that one as "space" (which has the "jump" action by default). When pressing X, your character should attack and jump at the same time, there's no reason for the game to override the program or viceversa.

Now, before getting your hands dirty with this I'd recommend you to use the English patch at least momentarily so you don't get lost when tweaking the in-game gamepad and keyboard settings, because there are a lot of them and it's easy to mess things up.

That done, go to the Options menu and to the second section there that says "Control settings". There are 5 sections, and you're aiming first for the one that reads "Gamepad controls". There you can configure what button does what. You'll notice it has three tabs, one is for normal ussage, another is for TPS mode and the other is for menu navigation. The idea is simply to blank out any key that you wanna set with Xpadder so they don't get triggered simultaneously in both programs.

Now here it depends on what you want to do, so you gotta be careful that, once you got Xpadder set, it's not going to mess your controls. For example, it's possible that you disable a button for normal gameplay mode, and you get it to do what you want with Xpadder, but when you try to use it in menu navigation it all gets fucked up. It took me several tries to get my gamepad in a way that things didn't conflict across all the game modes. It's more of a trial-and-error thing, so just try stuff up and see what can you tweak to get it working.

Another section to take in account is the "Keyboard controls". This one is where you choose what key does what for the keyboard, and it has a couple more tabs than the gamepad. You might need to modify stuff here as well.

If you need more help setting this, feel free to PM me so we don't go off-topic here (unless more people is interested in this, of course).


I've restarted and I'm getting the same issues, inputs not registering on the game but in the regular windows stuff is just fine. I've got the rumble on my inputs so the program is indeed working. Hummm. :-?

As I said, I'm not entirely sure about what exactly made my program work. I can't tell you much more about this but I can assure you that the program does work with PSO2 because I'm using it at the moment. Both programs, the game and Xpadder, must be run as administrator, so what I did was to go to the .exe file in Xpadder, go to its properties and in the Compatibility tab enable the "run as administrator" option so it prompts it everytime I start it. After setting this I restarted Windows and it started working. Not sure if I did anything else.

[Drifting Fable]

Alas I've done all that and I'm still getting nuttin. Xpadder is pretty much serving as a rumble enabler at the moment.

I even ran PSO2 without game booster to see if there was a change. nada :( Joy 2 Key was even giving me the same kind of issues. And you've got it working so I can't imagine Gameguard is to fault here.

In any case the support fourm for Xpadder seems to be a little active so perhaps I'll seek out help there.

Thanks for the assistance.

[Darki]

I wish I could help you with this, but I honestly have no idea of why isn't it working. =/ When I downloaded Xpadder for the first time it didn't work either (I downloaded an old version for free somewhere just to check that it worked before buying a license for the newest one).

I kept trying because I was in your same situation, I couldn't make it work but the person who recommended me the program (Inazuma in this case) got it working so I was sure it was possible and I was doing somthing wrong somehow. Then after some tries it just started working. I'm not really sure of what did I do other than what I've described already.

I'm actually having somewhat similar issues with AutoHotKey. Since the gamepad I showed previously is part mouse, I'm not sure that Xpadder is going to work with it, but AutoHotKey doesn't seem to work with PSO2. I suppose this one is more troublesome since it allows for stuff more... "shady" than Xpadder, but I though that's what people used to do their knuckle-dash macros.

[FsuRules]

Hi i currently do not own a xbox controller but i do own a dualshock ps3 controller. Also i have a ps2 controller that can connect via usb.
I can not stand the mouse/key controls and dont wanna spend any money on this f2p game so is there a way i can use either one of these controllers?

[Darki]

If I remember well, you can use the PS3 controller with a program called MotionJoy, but I don't own any of those controllers so I don't know how it works.

And, if you got a PS2 one that can be connected by USB, I suppose you use some adaptor? If that's the case it should work fine with the game directly unless it didn't come with drivers, but that would be rare.

[NoiseHERO]

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/b16sdm/Juri%20Custom%20Arcade%20Fight%20Stick/1.jpg
Don't use the stick... I did it as joke. :P

http://www.watchmojo.com/liveBlogs/blog_arcade/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wii-sales-reggie-fils-aime-nintendo.jpg

/button mash

[Link1275]

Hi i currently do not own a xbox controller but i do own a dualshock ps3 controller. Also i have a ps2 controller that can connect via usb.
I can not stand the mouse/key controls and dont wanna spend any money on this f2p game so is there a way i can use either one of these controllers?

Get MotioninJoy and set them up with the Xbox 360 emulator profile. Both will work quite well that way.

[Drifting Fable]

I wish I could help you with this, but I honestly have no idea of why isn't it working. =/ When I downloaded Xpadder for the first time it didn't work either (I downloaded an old version for free somewhere just to check that it worked before buying a license for the newest one).

I kept trying because I was in your same situation, I couldn't make it work but the person who recommended me the program (Inazuma in this case) got it working so I was sure it was possible and I was doing somthing wrong somehow. Then after some tries it just started working. I'm not really sure of what did I do other than what I've described already.

I'm actually having somewhat similar issues with AutoHotKey. Since the gamepad I showed previously is part mouse, I'm not sure that Xpadder is going to work with it, but AutoHotKey doesn't seem to work with PSO2. I suppose this one is more troublesome since it allows for stuff more... "shady" than Xpadder, but I though that's what people used to do their knuckle-dash macros.
Actually what version of Xpadder are you using. That could possibly have something to do with it.

Well this is rich, I've got Joy2Key working working. Forgot to give it admin privileges, but it seems to be workin out just fine and my sabertooth arrives tomorrow. So at least I'll be able to get dat feel of on-the-fly weapon swapping.

I'll keep lookin around for xpadder solutions but I might have to give up on the knux macro concept.


Hi i currently do not own a xbox controller but i do own a dualshock ps3 controller. Also i have a ps2 controller that can connect via usb.
I can not stand the mouse/key controls and dont wanna spend any money on this f2p game so is there a way i can use either one of these controllers?

Doesn't this game have Ps3 controler support? At least I thought so with the button choices. http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-options-guide/#gamepadreset

[Link1275]

Doesn't this game have Ps3 controler support? At least I thought so with the button choices. http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-options-guide/#gamepadreset

The game has built in PS2/3 controller layout support, but the default setup is TERRIBLE. And getting it to work right isn't fun as you have to go through key setups and the like almost every time if you use it as a PS2/3 controller. It's better to make it a fake Xbox 360 so that it just works when you use it.

[Darki]

Actually what version of Xpadder are you using. That could possibly have something to do with it.

Well this is rich, I've got Joy2Key working working. Forgot to give it admin privileges, but it seems to be workin out just fine and my sabertooth arrives tomorrow. So at least I'll be able to get dat feel of on-the-fly weapon swapping.


I'm using v2012.12.31 which is the latest existing one. There's one old version (5.3 could it be?), that one cannot be installed in Windows 7 but as far as I know, any version from there onwards should work. I tried at least 5 old versions until I just got the latest and checked it, and they all worked.

JoyToKey is useful too, but as you said, its macro functions are very lacking compared to Xpadder. I hope you get it to work because I can guarantee you that it should do. I've been usng it until today and it does work.


The game has built in PS2/3 controller layout support, but the default setup is TERRIBLE. And getting it to work right isn't fun as you have to go through key setups and the like almost every time if you use it as a PS2/3 controller. It's better to make it a fake Xbox 360 so that it just works when you use it.

Why don't you just configure it then? It takes less than 20 minutes to set the buttons right (if you're not doing anything complex like Xpadder), and you're done. You don't need to reset it everytime you get into the game, unless you're doing something wrong. Don't confuse the guy with extra things to do, you don't need to turn it into a fake 360 one for it to work just because you're too lazy to remap the buttons... <_<

[Link1275]

Why don't you just configure it then? It takes less than 20 minutes to set the buttons right (if you're not doing anything complex like Xpadder), and you're set.
I tried that. Something always seemed to get screwed up. I think the problem was that PSO2 wouldn't remember the button config for some reason. It could have been MotioninJoy or both though. You also have to calibrate the controller before each use using the calibration wizard that comes with windows. To do that you go to the control panel find the thing for gamepads(this is different for each windows OS I think), click on the correct controller and calibrate it(and you have to do this even if it is using the Xbox 360 emulator profile so that the game/Windows detects it properly and the joysticks and shoulder buttons work right)

[FsuRules]

Will you point me to the motionjoy download link it seems motionjoys official website is down?
I have both a ps3 sixaxis with me and a wii controller + Pro classic controller Id like to try both personally I love feel of Pro controller but either works.
I'll most likely ask questions about the 360 emulation too but i cant find the official download link.

P.s. does the wii controller work with motionjoy?

[Link1275]

Will you point me to the motionjoy download link it seems motionjoys official website is down?
I have both a ps3 sixaxis with me and a wii controller + Pro classic controller Id like to try both personally I love feel of Pro controller but either works.
I'll most likely ask questions about the 360 emulation too but i cant find the official download link.

P.s. does the wii controller work with motionjoy?
MotioninJoy is only for PS controllers as far as I'm aware. And their site isn't actually down it's just almost impossible to access sometimes(I don't know why).

[Drifting Fable]

I'm using v2012.12.31 which is the latest existing one. There's one old version (5.3 could it be?), that one cannot be installed in Windows 7 but as far as I know, any version from there onwards should work. I tried at least 5 old versions until I just got the latest and checked it, and they all worked.

JoyToKey is useful too, but as you said, its macro functions are very lacking compared to Xpadder. I hope you get it to work because I can guarantee you that it should do. I've been usng it until today and it does work.

Welp that did it. ^^; Upgraded from 5.7 to 2012.12.31 (thats quite a long version number.) and now Xpadder controls are registering in game. Now all that needs to be done is to gauge the proper timings for a nice automated knux dash.

Thanks :D

[FsuRules]

Ok, so anyway i can actually get the application im playing currently and would love to try it out.

[Drifting Fable]

Will you point me to the motionjoy download link it seems motionjoys official website is down?
I have both a ps3 sixaxis with me and a wii controller + Pro classic controller Id like to try both personally I love feel of Pro controller but either works.
I'll most likely ask questions about the 360 emulation too but i cant find the official download link.

P.s. does the wii controller work with motionjoy?

If MotioninJoy doesn't end up working out for Wii, Xpadder appears to have Wii support also, PS3 also. Granted I've never used motion joy so I'm not entirely sure how it stacks up towards the other program.


MotioninJoy is only for PS controllers as far as I'm aware. And their site isn't actually down it's just almost impossible to access sometimes(I don't know why).

Having never used it, does this look like a good up to date version of the program? http://ds3-tool.en.softonic.com/

[FsuRules]

I might just get xpadder then. Really just need something to use a gamepad with is xpadder complicated?

Oh Xpadder costs yeah unless theres a lite version for free or i pirate it which i wont probably consider this isnt min my future....

[Link1275]

If MotioninJoy doesn't end up working out for Wii, Xpadder appears to have Wii support also, PS3 also. Granted I've never used motion joy so I'm not entirely sure how it stacks up towards the other program.



Having never used it, does this look like a good up to date version of the program? http://ds3-tool.en.softonic.com/
Looks like it. If not it will probably prompt for some kind of update. That link reminded me though. If you do an internet search for "PS3 PC gamepad" or something similar you'll find setup and tutorial articles for it(and they usually have DL links).

[Drifting Fable]

Xpadder 5.3 is available to download for free. Anything beyond that including version 2012.12.31 has to be paid for. I can't confirm whether or not 5.3 works on PSO2, only 2012.12.31 I can say works for sure. You'll have to go to google for those however.

As for Xpadder's ease: basic tutorial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL2sOwjgOrc

It looked complex at first but now its pretty easy in my opinion.

I would still recommend going through controller configuration using the in-game tools of that bumped guide I linked earlier seeing you just want a gamepad going. If the settings aren't to your liking with remapping controls and all, then you should look into Xpadder or MotioninJoy. In game configuration should be the simplest option as I've never had any issues with the game forgetting my configurations.

[FsuRules]

the problem currently is the computer doesnt even recognize my sixaxis controller how do i fix this?
I would guess sixaxis pairing tool.

[Link1275]

the problem currently is the computer doesnt even recognize my sixaxis controller how do i fix this?
I would guess sixaxis pairing tool.
You have to hook it up with a USB cable, then run MotioninJoy. It should find it.

[Darki]

Welp that did it. ^^; Upgraded from 5.7 to 2012.12.31 (thats quite a long version number.) and now Xpadder controls are registering in game. Now all that needs to be done is to gauge the proper timings for a nice automated knux dash.

Thanks :D

Glad to hear that. =)

I've been playing with the FragFX (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31C69XEj4YL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) for a while already and I gotta say it's really nice, although it has a couple issues on its own, but well, nobody is perfect. ^ ^U

The combination of a Wii style nunchuk and mouse is really clever. But their shape and most importantly, size, are a bit off. It too me a while to get used to the nunchuck without getting cramps on my ring finger, mainly because it's a bit heavier than the Wii one (since it's wireless) and having three bumpers you gotta hold it with just two fingers. The mouse is MASSIVE. Literally twice as big as my old non-gaming one. I have big hands so this was actually an advantage, but to any other player I suppose this is a problem. In my case these "physical" issues were just a case of getting used to it, so nothing wrong here anymore.

Now, the greatest issue for me is the way it works. The USB dongle has a switch that alternates between "keyboard mode" and "controller mode". Each one has its faults. "Keyboard mode" basically works as a somewhat simple Xpadder mode, I mean that it maps all functions to keyboard. So if you press directions in the joystick the computer registers "WASD", etc, and the mouse works as a regular mouse. The problem here is simply that you lose any analog movement if the game allowed for that. In PSO2, for example, you won't be able to "walk" by slightly pushing the joystick. While a minor issue, I do like analog mode, so this was a bit dissapointing. While in "controller mode", everything works as if it was a PS3 gamepad, analog functions included. Here the catch line is that the mouse does too. The computer doesn't register the mouse as a regular mouse anymore, instead, its movements are registered as if you were using the right analog stick.

This basically means that you gotta decide between analog movement and "real" DirectImput buttons, and having a working mouse for Windows. Another problem is that you can't really increase the "speed" of the mouse movement while in "controller mode" so in PSO2 this causes the camera to move really slow. All this is caused due to the fact that the controller was designed for PS3 in mind, so it has many limitations for a PC user. Fortunately, I was able to use Xpadder and JoyToKey to emulate mouse movement while in controller mode, so I don't need to be switching the modes constantly, but of course this is not the ideal situation since you can only use the mouse when the computer is able to run these programs (for example when you get an UAC message you can't click since the program doesn't have enough permissions, if you try to switch users it stops working).

tl;dr, it works nice but it requires some adittional tinkering with Xpadder and/or JoyToKey to bring it to a perfect state.

Of course, if you have lots of money in your pocket you could try buying two of them and using two dongles, one for each device, keeping the mouse in "keyboard mode" and the nunchuk in "controller mode" (although I don't even know if this would work or one of the dongles would force all the signals on it). Another "solution" would be to discard the mouse and use only the nunchuk in "controller mode", and keep your old mouse with it. If you had a gaming mouse with aditional buttons this might be a good thing since the FragFX one I wouldn't say it's too ergonomic.

Personally I don't regret buying mine, since when I'm not playing the mouse works fine, and while playing, JoyToKey makes it work as a normal mouse as well. Once this is solved, for me it has improved the quality of my game a lot thanks to the fast TPS mode switch and better access to the buttons. If you don't care about analog movement, or tinkering a bit with JoyToKey, this controller is awesome.

[mandraxx]

Know what's cool if you can get it? Trio Linker Plus - it lets you use ps2, gamecube, and even dreamcast controllers! The way this game was meant to be played!

Personally, I am using the xbox controller due to ease, but if you have a dreamcast, get the linker - it's worth it.

[Ryo]

I use the PSO 10th Anniversary Controller that was released alongside PSO2.

[Zipzo]

It should definitely be noted that Razer now has the Sabertooth in stock. It's probably the best controller available on the market for playing this game (in case you've forgotten, it has 6 extra inputs on the controller alone).

Order quickly, can't know when they'll run out again.

[Drifting Fable]

Welp my Sabertooth finally is in my hands . . . though my A button is defective so I'm waiting for my replacement sabertooth on Wednesday before I say any more bout it. ^^;

[Inazuma]

My replacement Sabertooth controller had the same problem as my first one. The RB button broke. I shipped it to Razer yesterday. It really sucks how poorly the controller is made but at least they will keep replacing it for one year.

The 6 extra buttons are actually duplicate buttons so you are still limited by the normal amount of Xbox 360 buttons. For example, instead of using the normal Back, Start, and analog stick push-in buttons, I duplicated those to the extra shoulder and back buttons. This lets me have easier access to every button. And thanks to having these buttons in better positions, I can setup more toggle keys, which ends up giving me more buttons. Sorry if that sounded confusing.

If Razer could make a PC version of the Sabertooth where the 6 new buttons were actually new buttons and not duplicates, it would be much better.