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Shadowth117
Mar 26, 2013, 09:28 PM
Well, since the old thread never gets updated, Zyn and I figured we'd make a new one that's kept up to date.

Now just to keep things going smooth here, we'll have some rules. So:

Rules

1. Times must be posted in this thread in some way or another.

You can do a screenshot, but video is very much preferred since we're all aware of certain er... "styles of play" *coughSPEEDHACKTRAINERcough* that allow people to achieve things that aren't possible with normal game input.

No real formatting needed for this as long as you get the point across clear. If something looks particularly unrealistic though you'll need a video rather than just a screenshot. Make sure for solos that classes are clear. If you want you can post skill trees as well and I can include those too.

NPC's are not allowed for runs, by the game itself in many cases, unless required like in the case of story missions. This means no bringing bots to divide a boss's attention a little and such. I know that its been changed so you can bring bots in ta now, but weak bullet from them is far too good and too random to be allowed access to.

Ah, and clearly you need to be doing Very Hard, or in the case of story missions, the highest available difficulty. When the next difficulty level is released, old times will probably be moved to a Very Hard section and left alone.

For bosses, if the boss has a non story cutscene, you'll need to play against that variant of the boss. This means even if you need to play an EQ to fight it, you'll need to do that. As for Falz HUnar, while he is definitely a boss, the only variant of him in a standardized area is at the end of Darker's Den. For now, he won't have his own listing.

2. Input altering programs ARE allowed.

IE macros, joy2key, what have you. These, in my opinion, do not alter the game enough to be considered cheating. These only apply input that was already possible, albeit with precision and swiftness a mere human may not be able to achieve. Somewhat of a gray area, but for the sake of this they are NOT considered cheating.

3. Play nice.

We're here to compete to the best of our ability or watch others do so. We don't need to go outright insulting people. You think some guy is stupid and you can do the run better? Awesome. Prove it. Fight with your times, not your words. Bickering can go elsewhere.


Time Attacks

Multi: 3+ Players
[spoiler-box]
Marathon Training: Naberius  ・ 走破演習:ナベリウス

1. jiasu73 - Tomia (Fo/Hu), Esofor - Syhon (Ra/Hu), Kuroe Chan - くろえちゃん (Ra/Hu), Dione - ディオネ (Fi/Hu) 2:37

[spoiler-box]
FO/HU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aotegc5pM8

RA/HU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkLmv2ztPPE[/spoiler-box]

*X. Tomia (FoFi), Chicken (FoFi), Sen (RaFi), Matt (FiHu) 2:58
[spoiler-box]
FiHu perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV6cEUI2gw8[/QUOTE]
[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Naberius 2 ・ 走破演習:ナベリウスⅡ

1. Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu), Sen (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi) - 3:22

[spoiler-box]Matt's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpgEU0k4-BQ

Syhon's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWc-Ua4Lnqk

Tomia's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtN1YoPCfz0[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Lillipa ・ 走破演習:リリーパ

1. Matt (RaHu), Sen (FiHu), Syhon (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi) 4:19

[spoiler-box]

[spoiler-box]RaHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWpPpruSXvY
FiHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_wQdWenV4
FoFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSf4IypoUUk[/spoiler-box][/url]

We cut after the second pod, because it's a lot faster if you plan it correctly.
Also, for some reason, the game feels horribly unresponsive on unlimited FPS, which is why my triple dashes are slow / fail consistently. I'm not sure what it is but it never happens on 60FPS.
[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Amduscia ・ 走破演習:アムドゥスキア

1. Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu), Sen (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi) - 5:52

[spoiler-box]Matt's perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d__-oX6NJQM

Tomia's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxFY3Qn8a5I[/spoiler-box]

Abduction Darker's Den ・ アブダクション ■?●■?■● ■?●?●■

Breakthrough Practice : Dragon Altar ・ 突破演習:龍祭壇

1. Kamekur - 茜泉 (Fi/Hu), Ansereris - .helena (Fi/Hu), Akatora - Sen (Fi/Hu), くろえちゃん (Ra/Hu) 3:52
[SPOILER-BOX]http://imgur.com/3qZB7zD.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Kamekur - 茜泉 (Fi/Hu), Ansereris - .helena (Fi/Hu), ChickenHunter - Chicken (Fi/Hu), Kuroe chan - くろえちゃん (Ra/Hu) 3:57 

[SPOILER-BOX]http://imgur.com/LZRdblq.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Z-0 - Matt (FiHu), Aka - Sen (RaHu), Esofor - Syhon (FiHu), Kamekur - Kamekur (FiHu) 4:33

[spoiler-box]Matt's perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--UHicmN6qM
Syhon's perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR1CWllDhzY[/spoiler-box]

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Qualifier ・ アークスGP2013予選

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Main Draw ・ アークスGP2013本戦

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Finals ・ アークスGP2013決勝

[/spoiler-box]

Duo: 2 Players
[spoiler-box]
Marathon Training: Naberius  ・ 走破演習:ナベリウス

1. Esofor - syhon (Fi/Hu), yumi (Ra/Hu) 4:14
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Wd9MUp7TE[/spoiler-box]

2. Z-0 - Matt (Ra/Fi), jiasu73 - Tomia (Fo/Fi) 04:46
[spoiler-box]RaFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFBYsypEOPQ

FoFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAik6oUuZZU[/spoiler-box]

3. 炎雷覇せかい (Fo/Fi), Crimson Exile - Crim (Fi/Hu) 5:19
[spoiler-box]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/Darkcloud1022/pso20130602_233051_002_zps09a7d952.png (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Darkcloud1022/media/pso20130602_233051_002_zps09a7d952.png.html)[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Naberius 2 ・ 走破演習:ナベリウスⅡ

Marathon Training: Lillipa ・ 走破演習:リリーパ

1. Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu) 4:49
[spoiler-box]
RaHu Perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tLywluB518

FiHu Perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAdwuMWUz9g
[/spoiler-box]

*X. Z-0 - Matt (RaHu), Esofor - Syhon (FiHu)
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/e5QOtxJ.jpg
RaHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY1e6VclyA
FiHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Gpk8jvbbY[/spoiler-box]

*X. Z-0 - Matt (Lightning FoFi), jiasu73 - Tomia (Fire FoFi) 6:08
[spoiler-box]
Matt(Lightning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUF_Qn4rH9s

Tomia(Fire)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyh1ZNDgf4A[/QUOTE]
[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Amduscia ・ 走破演習:アムドゥスキア

1. Z-0 - Matt (RaHu), jiasu73 - Tomia (FoFi) 7:46[spoiler-box]
THHHHHHHRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPLL LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN is all I have to say about this.

RaHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJnkuJ9QSZE

FoFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfXb8cJnGd4
[/spoiler-box]

Abduction Darker's Den ・ アブダクション ■?●■?■● ■?●?●■

Breakthrough Practice : Dragon Altar ・ 突破演習:龍祭壇

1. Esofor - .helena (FiHu) - くろえちゃん (Kuroe chan) (RaHu) 4:34

[spoiler-box]

no tree, shiftarides only


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heT4b5pZK-k[/spoiler-box]

2. Z-0 - Matt (RaHu), Esofor - Syhon (FiHu) 4:46
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMdIBBHfWp0
[/spoiler-box]

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Qualifier ・ アークスGP2013予選

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Main Draw ・ アークスGP2013本戦

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Finals ・ アークスGP2013決勝

[/spoiler-box]

Solo: 1 Player
[spoiler-box]
Marathon Training: Naberius  ・ 走破演習:ナベリウス

-Melee

1. Esofor - Syhon (Fi/Hu) 6:30
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcXwcrZPgag
[/spoiler-box]

2. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 8:56
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6J5z22_-zA&feature=youtube_gdata[/spoiler-box]

3. final_attack - 明石篠 (Br/Hu) 10:41
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_DpbIaHMU[/spoiler-box]

-Ranged

1. Dinosaur - ヂノ (Gu/Hu) 6:22
[spoiler-box]
http://i.imgur.com/CDKiSmu.jpg
[/spoiler-box]

2. Esofor - Syhon (Ra/Hu) 6:42
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbIiuC8vlww[/spoiler-box]

3. Bellion - Caprus (Ra/Hu) 7:39
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M01eMVHJQE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M01eMVHJQE[/SPOILER-BOX]

-Tech

1. Z-0 - Eva (Fo/Br) 6:30
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_Q19zN16k[/spoiler-box]

2. jiasu73 - Tomia (Fo/Fi) 7:52
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/2Zh7U8K.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Marathon Training: Naberius 2 ・ 走破演習:ナベリウスⅡ

-Melee

1. Esofor - Syhon (Fi/Hu) 5:11
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94YJjTd4IKc[/spoiler-box]

2. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 8:35
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9N6NROJdJA&feature=youtube_gdata[/spoiler-box]

3. Dnd - Nina (Hu/Fi) 9:10
[spoiler-box]http://imageshack.us/a/img547/8817/7t55.jpg[/spoiler-box]

4. final_attack - 明石篠 (Br/Hu) 9:16
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MiFaeWMXD0[/spoiler-box]

5. Lostbob117 (Hu/Fi) 11:42
[spoiler-box]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110465980/pso2%20pictures/pso20131101_232147_000.png[/spoiler-box]

6. Lostbob117 (Br/Hu) 15:11
[spoiler-box]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110465980/pso20131103_000711_000.png[/spoiler-box]

-Ranged

1. Dinosaur - ヂノ (Gu/Hu) 3:55
[spoiler-box]
http://i.imgur.com/o8qzTTf.jpg[/spoiler-box]

2. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 06:27
[spoiler-box]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHnaqkq0xg"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHnaqkq0xg[/spoiler-box]

-Tech

1. Adios - Mireyuna 6:19
[spoiler-box]
FO/TE
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20130726_020413_002.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Milranduil/media/pso20130726_020413_002.jpg.html)
[/spoiler-box]

2. jiasu73 - Tomia (Fo/Te) Fire Tree 6:42
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/K7MX9Dd.jpg[/spoiler-box]

*X. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack (Fo/Fi) (Lightning Skill Tree) 7:46
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6P-6EperFk
Note: This was done with a lightning tree. Said tree can be found here: http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?03hDbdIkbdIkbdIkbdIkbdIkbdIkjcP9bIn0 00000febHoGBIbGKIb0000ib00000ib0000kbI22S6cAcAcK00 07b00000f
[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Lillipa ・ 走破演習:リリーパ

-Melee
1. Esofor - Syhon (Fi/Hu) 8:55
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWE3KoYQCY4[/spoiler-box]

2. Ryock - (Fi/Fo) 13:47
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/NAamv2m.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

-Ranged

-Tech

1. Z-0 - Eva (Fo/Br) 8:28
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA1PZfiQ1zQ[/spoiler-box]


Marathon Training: Amduscia ・ 走破演習:アムドゥスキア

-Melee
1. Esofor - Syhon (Fi/Hu) 12:28
[spoiler-box]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1159/pso20130417232136001.png[/spoiler-box]

-Ranged

1. Bellion - Caprus (Ra/Hu) 9:26
[SPOILER-BOX]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wzi_gkuqeE[/SPOILER-BOX]

-Tech

*X. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack (Fo/Fi) (Lightning Skill Tree) 12:49
[spoiler-box]
http://i.imgur.com/YZsMh6Q.jpg
[/spoiler-box]

Abduction Darker's Den ・ アブダクション ■?●■?■● ■?●?●■


-Melee

1. FireswordRus - Firesword (Fi/Hu) 57:44
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioxnij_AjMg[/spoiler-box]

-Ranged

1. Dinosaur - ヂノ (Gu/Hu) 9:11
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/IPFepD1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

-Tech

Arks Battle Championship! ・ アークス戦技大会!

-Melee

-Ranged

-Tech

Breakthrough Practice : Dragon Altar ・ 突破演習:龍祭壇

-Melee

1. Crysteon - Crysteon (Fi/Hu) 13:41
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxZgu0RNaA[/spoiler-box]

2. Ryock (Fi/Fo) 16:48
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/2hXexMr.jpg[/spoiler-box]

3. Zenobia - Yuri (Hu/Fi)? 23:13
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74XT4Mb0sXc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74XT4Mb0sXc
[/spoiler-box]

-Ranged

1. Dinosaur - ヂノ (Gu/Hu) 6:58
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/rIghbK1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

2. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 09:30
[spoiler-box]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdJ-XfFmxHA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdJ-XfFmxHA[/spoiler-box]

-Tech

1. Z-0 - Eva (Fo/Te) 8:19
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euce1U70PpA[/spoiler-box]

2. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack (Fo/Te) 8:52
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPAq7Jr7sk
[/spoiler-box]

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Qualifier ・ アークスGP2013予選

-Melee

-Ranged

-Tech

1. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack (Light FoTe) 4:49
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtZgMgMdZ48
[/spoiler-box]

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Main Draw ・ アークスGP2013本戦

-Melee

-Ranged

-Tech

Arks Grand Prix 2013 Finals ・ アークスGP2013決勝

-Melee

1. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 9:09
[spoiler-box]
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Szo8uDOek&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg
[/spoiler-box]

-Ranged

1. Dinosaur - ヂノ (Gu/Ra) 3:51
[spoiler-box]http://www.twitch.tv/gmcustom/c/2970499[/spoiler-box]

-Tech

[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
Mar 26, 2013, 09:31 PM
Edit: Welp, may as well make use of this post since the first post was kinda crowded

Edit2: Removed multi person boss times due to no one doing them. If someone wants to make an exception in the future, than we can see about that, but I don't see much purpose to them for now.

Boss Time Attacks

Solo: 1 Player
[spoiler-box]
Rockbear ・ ロックベア

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 0:08
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. shachao - Kemicho (Fo/Br) 0:10
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTzJMHhlxk[/spoiler-box]

3. Goukezitsu - Goukezitsu - (Hu/Ra) 0:12
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWFbXts5K9A
[/spoiler-box]

4. Crimson Exile - Crim (Fi/Hu) 00:16
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR9qj8s7804"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR9qj8s7804[/spoiler-box]

5. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:25
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Fang Twins ・ ファング・ツインズ

Caterdra'n ・ キャタドラン

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:17
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Crimson Exiles - Crim (Fi/Hu) 00:27
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD1C3cUp0O4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD1C3cUp0O4[/spoiler-box]

3. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:28
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Vol Dragon ・ ヴォル・ドラゴン

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:08
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Goukezitsu - Goukezitsu (Hu/Fi) 00:34
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHmTfTVPpvc[/spoiler-box]

3. Soultrigger - Odjin (Ra/Fi) 00:37
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFvLXzJdLA[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 01:07
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Gwanahda ・ グワナーダ

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:06
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Bellion - Caprus (Ra/Fi) 00:09
[spoiler-box]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6pf5LQ1Mhk[/spoiler-box]

3. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:30
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

4. Crimson Exile - Crim (Fi/Hu) 00:35

[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGjV9XkPSQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGjV9XkPSQ[/spoiler-box]

Del Malmoth ・ デ・マルモス

1. Goukezitsu - Goukezitsu :rappy: (Hu/Fi) 0:19
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GbphfK8Yw[/spoiler-box]

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:19
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

3. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:22
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW2WvXENUvs[/spoiler-box]

4. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:31
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Snow Twins ・ スノウ・ツインズ

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:32
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Bellion - Caprus (Ra/Fi) 00:40
[spoiler-box]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNWGzpL7zA[/spoiler-box]

3. Goukezitsu (Hu/Fi) 00:50
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlOB3dWMDuQ[/spoiler-box]

4. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:40
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRSE8-R97Qs[/spoiler-box]

5. Soul Trigger - Odjin (Ra/Fi) 00:51
[SPOILER-BOX]*Unlisted video because of the ending (lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXqc4_OVn4[/SPOILER-BOX]

6. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 01:20
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Tranmizer ・ トランマイザー

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:09
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Bellion - Caprus (Gu/Ra) 00:14
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM5RTs80gKE
[/spoiler-box]

3. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:25
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

4. Crimson Exile - Crim (Fi/Hu) 00:26
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnJtxmB4IgA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnJtxmB4IgA[/spoiler-box]

Big Vardha ・ ビッグヴァーダー

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:29 :evil:
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:40
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf57zjc3inA[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Soul Trigger - Odjin (Ra/Fi) 00:49
[SPOILER-BOX]*No knuckle dashing
*Time spent changing stances
*Used Brave Stance tree instead of Wise Stance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQFoT7urOUw[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 01:50
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Caterdra'nsa ・ キャタドランサ

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:15
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Rehal - Kumiko (Gu/Ra)00:16
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQEYzXZGOyM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQEYzXZGOyM[/spoiler-box]

3. Dnd - Nina (Fi/Hu) 00:26
[spoiler-box]http://www.twitch.tv/minidnd/c/2898797[/spoiler-box]

4. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:35
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Quartz Dragon ・ クォーツ・ドラゴン

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:08
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Goukezitsu - Goukezitsu (Hu/Fi) 00:21
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OyMVXwQbE0[/spoiler-box]

3. Soultrigger - Odjin (Ra/Fi) 00:22
[SPOILER-BOX]*No poison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NO2trxtuW0[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:36
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

4. Crimson Exile - Crim (Fi/Hu) 00:55
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8K_geK5G2o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8K_geK5G2o[/spoiler-box]

Wolgahda ・ ウォルガーダ

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:14
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Rehal - Kumiko (Ra/Hu) 00:16
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iBfnTS7S3s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iBfnTS7S3s[/spoiler-box]

3. final_attack - Ghost 0:17
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVRyBEs8Aic[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:32
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

5. Crimson Exile - Crim (Fi/Hu) 00:38
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBk_yPj_YFU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBk_yPj_YFU[/spoiler-box]

Zeshrayda ・ ゼシュレイダ

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:36
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Soultrigger - Odjin (Gu/Ra) 00:53
[SPOILER-BOX]*Popped head out after two dashes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj4ZvIYkxTw[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 01:23
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

X. Bellion - Caprus (Gu/Ra) 00:49 :rappy:
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhdrZnwE8Sw[/spoiler-box]

Dark Ragne ・ ダーク・ラグネ

Falz Arms ・ ファルス・アーム

Dark Falz Elder ・ ダークファルス・エルダー

Chrome Dragon ・ クローム・ドラゴン

Goronzoran ・ ゴロンゾラン

1. shachao - Kemicho (Fo/Te) 00:16
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGs_z23KnUs[/spoiler-box]

2. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:21
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib6YzHepXFE[/spoiler-box]

3. Goukezitsu - Goukezitsu HU/FI 00:23
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REHRgo0lk[/spoiler-box]

4. Yumii -Yumi 00:24
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

5. jiasu73 - Tomia 00:26
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fH30jZUa6U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fH30jZUa6U[/spoiler-box]

6. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 00:32
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

7. Bellion - Minerva 00:34
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vpl4whjZac[/spoiler-box]

X. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack (Fo/Fi) 0:56*
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJ9lxdZjos[/spoiler-box]

x. Z-0 - Eva (Fo/Fi) 1:06*
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-UXpoAmh-A[/spoiler-box]

Dragon Ex ・ ドラゴン・エクス

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:33
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5R6QclveIw[/spoiler-box]

2. Kamekur - 茜泉 (Fi/Hu) 0:41
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANPIRQAQic[/spoiler-box]

3. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:50
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtOQ4Q_oe8[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 1:22
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

5. mommy_cornelia - Cornelia (Hu/Fi) 1:37
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8mJAEirZYo[/spoiler-box]

6. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack (Fo/Te) 2:00
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGRG3jsf10U[/spoiler-box]

Org Blan ・  オルグブラン

1. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:22
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhXTzdAFjKw[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu)1:03
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Bal Rodos ・ バル・ロドス

1. Kamekur - 茜泉 (Ra/Hu) 0:49
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImOcJFUiLI[/spoiler-box]

2. Esofor - Syhon (Fi/Hu) 0:57
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqfXn8NXzx8[/spoiler-box]

3. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 01:16
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WZhcwnBq_k[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Dnd - Nina (Fi/Hu) 02:05
[spoiler-box]http://www.twitch.tv/minidnd/c/2898810[/spoiler-box]

5. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 03:04
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

6. mommy_cornelia - Cornelia (Hu/Fi) 3:13
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU7xpUpPUlA[/spoiler-box]

7. Lostbob117 - ざいか (Br/Hu) 11:09
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ZVz_UBuf4[/spoiler-box]

Varder Soma ・ ヴァーダーソーマ

1. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 0:28
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlIbXokJ8JU[/spoiler-box]

2. final_attack - Ghost (Gu/Hu) 00:46
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07A4Adh9XIE[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 2:02
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

Blu Ringahda ・ ブリュー・リンガーダ

1. Rehal - Kumiko (Ra/Hu) 00:29
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDL9LSgGNlE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDL9LSgGNlE[/spoiler-box]

1. Kamekur (Fi/Hu) 00:29
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ9TlHP7Nck[/spoiler-box]

3. Yumii - Yumi (Ra/Hu) 00:31
[spoiler-box]http://youtu.be/DlIbXokJ8JU?t=54s[/spoiler-box]

4. shachao - Kemicho (Fo/Te) 00:53
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKb5vbEGcBc
[/spoiler-box]

5. Zenobia - やりまん (Br/Hu) 02:14
[spoiler-box]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqYHhz0ybU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg[/spoiler-box]

6. Dnd - Nina Fi/Hu (2:30)
[spoiler-box]http://www.twitch.tv/minidnd/c/2898791[/spoiler-box]

[/spoiler-box]

Note: Times that are no longer possible because of class changes, IE Zonde nerf, will be marked a "*" once the changes are implemented. If I miss this, I would prefer if this could be pointed out to me so I can mark the runs affected accordingly.

Rare boss battles can be uploaded, but will be marked with a :rappy: symbol to note this since there are differences between these and usual boss battles. They will simply be placed under the section of the regular boss. Infection will also be marked as such:
Level 1: :evil:
Level 2: :etongue:
Level 3: :disapprove:

For example, a boss entry marked like this
Profound Darkness - プロファウンドダークネス
1. Derpy - Herpy :rappy: :disapprove:
*notarealvid.fake.com*

would be rare, level 3 infected Profound Darkness. Congratulations to Herpy for beating a boss we probably won't see for years!


As far as recording videos goes, you have a quite a few options, though some of them aren't free. Do note that recording full size uncompressed video has a tendency to slow your framerate even on rather good computers. For this reason, if you choose to record like that you may consider lowering your game's settings or screen resolution. If you can go faster with lower settings, its recommended that you do that rather than making a pretty video. If you can accomplish both though, its very nice.
Dxtory - http://dxtory.com/
FRAPS - http://www.fraps.com/
Bandicam - http://www.bandicam.com/

*free*
MSI Afterburner - http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

If anyone wants to recommend any other programs, I'm all ears.

Happy TAing! :quickdraw:

EvilMag
Mar 26, 2013, 09:32 PM
I wouldn't mind to attempt a TA but my current gear says no. :<

Midori Oku
Mar 26, 2013, 09:54 PM
Watch out, you'll tempt {GR} Derpgun to play PSO2!!! ;P

Lets see how many people get this. I know Shadow will. lol

Blackheart521
Mar 26, 2013, 09:56 PM
Watch out, you'll tempt {GR} Derpgun to play PSO2. ;P


Lets see how many people get this. I know Shadow will. lol

Is that the "I got teh best Fortegunner evar" guy? Good thread haha ^^;

Midori Oku
Mar 26, 2013, 10:01 PM
Is that the "I got teh best Fortegunner evar" guy? Good thread haha ^^;

Gunmaster, but yeah. Don't forget that he also claimed to be the best Masterforce too. That's {GR} Dr/\gon for you.

Good times indeed! :-D

Shadowth117
Mar 26, 2013, 10:01 PM
I'd be kinda glad if he played if the guy gave some decent competition. But yeah, he was more the "I'm the best at every class ever and I did it my first or second run" guy.

To be fair, at least he usually seemed to be telling the truth.

Zenobia
Mar 26, 2013, 10:02 PM
Nice thread Shadow seems very entertaining.

Question do we have to post a full run of the vid or can we just post a run from a TA we did?

Midori Oku
Mar 26, 2013, 10:07 PM
To be fair, at least he usually seemed to be telling the truth.

Coming from a guy who said his party was not using the MGG, when they obviously were? The guy that said he did not AFK his PA's but Jess has a picture of him sitting in seabed for over 20 hours? The guy that claims the races he actually lost (for example my race with him at Seed Express) never happened? Yeah........about that.

It would be the same shit on PSO2.

Shadowth117
Mar 26, 2013, 10:08 PM
Nice thread Shadow seems very entertaining.

Question do we have to post a full run of the vid or can we just post a run from a TA we did?

What do you mean by a full run? Do you mean as in a single area or maybe a single person's view? I'd say for multi person runs it should be fine to post a single video that only shows one person's perspective since not everyone records.

It would be cool to have every person's view, but if not there shouldn't be a problem.

Edit:
@Midori:
...that is true. Er... he played fairly well sometimes? = D....

Edit2:

fact is these threads which encourage people to post vids showing how awesome they are always turn out sucky. filled with drama and just lame overall. why bother.
I'm just going to point out that you're the only one who has caused any issues in this thread thus far to be completely honest. Lets not forsake this thread for a prediction that has yet to be proven.

Midori Oku
Mar 26, 2013, 10:20 PM
Anyways, I'm looking forward to seeing this thread continue. Hopefully without drama. God knows it didn't work well in PSU. Well....it did once "1# Gunmaster" quit. It was a such shame he came back during Absolute Zero.

Hopefully I can get some form of TA in Defiance. It's what made PSU so awesome for me. It would PSO2 too, if I could stay hooked with the game. Unfortunately, for me PSO2 lost its luster after level 40 for whatever reason. At times I really do wish I could stay interested in it more.

Lostbob117
Mar 26, 2013, 10:34 PM
its gonna be a crappy thread, I already know it. inb4 lock.

This thread > http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205787 and http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205761


Anyways on topic could we do some boss TA's also with this too?

Sizustar
Mar 26, 2013, 10:35 PM
This thread > http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205787 and http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205761


Anyways on topic could we do some boss TA's also with this too?

So just time to see how quick people can kill a boss?
So either solo with NPC
Teamate of different jobs to see "effeciancy" So like a All FO vs. 3FO+1RA, vs 3 Hu/FI +1 RA?
etc?

Lostbob117
Mar 26, 2013, 10:37 PM
So just time to see how quick people can kill a boss?
So either solo with NPC
Teamate of different jobs to see "effeciancy" So like a All FO vs. 3FO+1RA, vs 3 Hu/FI +1 RA?
etc?

I was thinking just solo and duo I guess three and four for some bosses like Dark Falz Elder and Vardha.

Sizustar
Mar 26, 2013, 10:41 PM
I was thinking just solo and duo I guess three and four for some bosses like Dark Falz Elder and Vardha.

So mainly for bragging or discussing strategy for best efficiancy?

Here's my first submission, not going for efficiancy, mainly testing out new GPU though, but got lucky with the boss behavior poking his head out early.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOX8VYofd_o

Midori Oku
Mar 26, 2013, 10:42 PM
I think it would be cool to have boss TA's (obviously video only) on the list. It was the bosses that I found most enjoyable about PSO2.

Shadowth117
Mar 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
This thread > http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205787 and http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205761


Anyways on topic could we do some boss TA's also with this too?

Yeah, I actually mentioned something about it on the bottom of the post. That was the idea for how I would set that up anyway, it could change. I will say I think it would be getting a bit ridiculous to have 4 person boss gang ups for most battles considering that a single player can potentially kill a lot of them in a minute or less. Multiple mini bosses such as caters and such may be something to consider though.

Edit: I guess I'll get started on formatting for boss battles on the first post. It wasn't something I was really thinking about at first, especially since it wasn't a big thing in past games which Zyn and I took influence for the thread from, but I agree it is a pretty neat thing to do.

Lostbob117
Mar 26, 2013, 11:00 PM
Another idea: Have some recommended video recorders (free and pay) for pso2 and games , so people have some good video recorders while making TA.

Maximum Burst
Mar 26, 2013, 11:11 PM
I think that while lots of people surely know how to complete the Time Attacks very quickly, the best times will ultimately come down to who has the luck and meseta to spend on purely offense-oriented gear. And timing comes into play as Forces who can storm through spamming Zonde might be able to squeeze out better times now than people who try to do so after the upcoming Zonde nerf.

milranduil
Mar 26, 2013, 11:27 PM
Well damn, now I HAVE to cap, rush gear, and hit 55/55 asap... >_> I'm working on it!

Shadowth117
Mar 26, 2013, 11:32 PM
I think that while lots of people surely know how to complete the Time Attacks very quickly, the best times will ultimately come down to who has the luck and meseta to spend on purely offense-oriented gear. And timing comes into play as Forces who can storm through spamming Zonde might be able to squeeze out better times now than people who try to do so after the upcoming Zonde nerf.
You wouldn't be the first person to say something like that. But as I said in the first post. Please prove it. You may find its not nearly as easy to do as you think even if you have the best gear in the game. Even if you have good luck and good items, if you don't have a plan and/or aren't up to par to executing it you will fall behind more skilled players. That is competition.

By your logic, if one were to work out the required muscles to an acceptable extent and jump straight into a game of American football without knowing the rules, as long as they had the uniform and the aforementioned brawn they could be a star player with almost no effort. I think most people can acknowledge that sports take skill to some degree. Is it impossible to think that a digital game might?

Edit: That said, players with the best times likely will have some of the best gear simply because they wanted to play well against similar players. Its kind of a natural thing for this type of game to promote such play.

@LostBob:
A fair idea. I'll add that to the bottom of the posted.

Midori Oku
Mar 26, 2013, 11:34 PM
Well damn, now I HAVE to cap, rush gear, and hit 55/55 asap... >_> I'm working on it!

No Bobby, don't do it! It's a trap! D:

In all honesty though, I never thought I would see you play PSO2. I may actually get on and do runs with you from time to time. That is if my life/soul is not sucked into Skyrim or Defiance. >___>

Crysteon
Mar 26, 2013, 11:45 PM
Well damn, now I HAVE to cap, rush gear, and hit 55/55 asap... >_> I'm working on it!

Let's hope Dodo doesnt drive you crazy that early, lol. I wanna see you back in action!

milranduil
Mar 26, 2013, 11:56 PM
Who's Dodo lol?

Force looking fun is honestly what brought me back... that and the fact that soloing is possible again. That was the main deterrent when I left before the New Year. Then again, that was during open beta lol.

I just don't know what kind of time commitment I'm looking at is all...

Shadowth117
Mar 27, 2013, 12:27 AM
Who's Dodo lol?

Force looking fun is honestly what brought me back... that and the fact that soloing is possible again. That was the main deterrent when I left before the New Year. Then again, that was during open beta lol.

I just don't know what kind of time commitment I'm looking at is all...

Dodo is the meseta devouring douchebag guy that upgrades your weapons. While grinding is in some ways more forgiving than PSU, it can be frustrating. Adding abilities to your weapon, or affixes as we call them is similarly frustrating. You'll grow to hate that man as the rest of us have, lol.

milranduil
Mar 27, 2013, 12:52 AM
Nothing can compare to the Okikudohg that broke 12 times going from 9-10.... fck that Neudaiz GC hoar.

Midori Oku
Mar 27, 2013, 01:13 AM
Nothing can compare to the Okikudohg that broke 12 times going from 9-10.... fck that Neudaiz GC hoar.

That's why I saved up like 60 of them to grind! \o/ Only 4 went to 10/10 It also took me 31 Caduceus to get 3 10/10's. -_-

Lostbob117
Mar 29, 2013, 10:48 PM
At Lv8 Figther I did Nab 2 in 16:47 (solo)
[spoiler-box]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/110465980/pso20130330_114159_000.png[/spoiler-box]

I could probably do better if I just would of took out those king yedes first before trying to rush kill banshee.

DreXxiN
Mar 30, 2013, 02:33 AM
Well damn, now I HAVE to cap, rush gear, and hit 55/55 asap... >_> I'm working on it!

Incoming return of Like OMG (http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?319878-Mag-Ta-winners-)/)?

Shadowth117
Mar 30, 2013, 02:37 AM
At Lv8 Figther I did Nab 2 in 16:47 (solo)
[spoiler-box]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/110465980/pso20130330_114159_000.png[/spoiler-box]

I could probably do better if I just would of took out those king yedes first before trying to rush kill banshee.

Level... 8 fighter? I can't really put it up if its not in VH. Unless you mean as a sub.

EvilMag
Mar 30, 2013, 02:48 AM
One question about the boss solo TAs. Are we allowed to bring NPCs for them?

jooozek
Mar 30, 2013, 02:58 AM
One question about the boss solo TAs. Are we allowed to bring NPCs for them?

well
NPCs are disabled for TAs

Shadowth117
Mar 30, 2013, 03:02 AM
You know... I was thinking about that. I don't think I want to allow that in the end. I realize Sizustar's was up and they were one of the ones who suggested it, but honestly I don't feel like that should be an extra variable in this. I'll remove that video from the post and add on a bit to reflect this. Plus the point of a solo here is really more that you're able to do it alone. For a story mission it might be forced, but its always been sort of an honor rule not to bring NPC's for things like this so I think I'll continue that here now.

EvilMag
Mar 30, 2013, 03:04 AM
Reminds me of every solo TA video/picture of PSU where everyone uses bruce and PM NPCs. lol

Shadowth117
Mar 30, 2013, 03:29 AM
Reminds me of every solo TA video/picture of PSU where everyone uses bruce and PM NPCs. lol

Most actual time attacks did not actually. NPC's in PSU really hindered you more than anything else in that regard.

jiasu73
Mar 30, 2013, 03:48 AM
Solo Nab 1 VH with garangos not taken out as FO/FI
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/i6myaZU.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Lostbob117
Mar 30, 2013, 09:48 AM
Level... 8 fighter? I can't really put it up if its not in VH. Unless you mean as a sub.

Ah I see it needs to be VH poo, time to lvl more.

Z-0
Mar 30, 2013, 02:24 PM
Duo Marathon Training: Naberius - 4:48

Matt (Ra/Fi), Tomia (Fo/Fi)

[spoiler-box]http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130330_192146_000_zps23b2bdee.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Pretty OK time. It would be better if we dropped the Fo/Fi for Fi/Hu, but it's not really possible to get a better time with that setup outside of Japan because Assault Buster cannot chain kill. . .

Shadowth117
Mar 30, 2013, 05:30 PM
Its up. FYI, I may not always post when I add things to the first post, but I've been doing it.

Esofor
Mar 30, 2013, 06:10 PM
this looks to be a fun thread

Soultrigger
Mar 30, 2013, 08:41 PM
I'm surprised no one has point this out, but competitive TA is something that appeals mainly to Forces. And it's very easy to see why:
-Forces don't have to deal with element grinding (biiig deterrent for Melee/Range)
-Forces only have one weapon type to deal with (i.e. Rod) in terms of grinding and affixing (versus Rifle+Launcher+GS(+TMG) or Sword+Partizan+Double Saber+GS)
-All the current BiS rods are pyroxene weapons, so you don't have to worry about AQ-level prices

Not saying Melee or Range can't compete at all, and of course there are very affordable baseline TA weapons like Lambda Raizenork. BUT, it's easy to see why many people don't in terms of the necessary costs just to compete.

...


Anyways, here are my best boss solo times (some are old, but good enough...). Lots of room for improvement in terms of gear/execution. But really, I could not care less about shaving a few seconds.

Vol RaFi 37 sec
*Pressed wrong button at the end on accident
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFvLXzJdLA[/SPOILER-BOX]

Snow RaFi 51 sec
*Unlisted video because of the ending (lol)
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXqc4_OVn4[/SPOILER-BOX]

Vardha RaFi 49 sec
*No knuckle dashing
*Time spent changing stances
*Used Brave Stance tree instead of Wise Stance
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQFoT7urOUw[/SPOILER-BOX]

Quartz RaFi 22 sec
*No poison
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NO2trxtuW0[/SPOILER-BOX]

Shrayda GuRa 53 sec
*Popped head out after two dashes
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj4ZvIYkxTw[/SPOILER-BOX]

Shadowth117
Mar 30, 2013, 09:26 PM
I'm surprised no one has point this out, but competitive TA is something that appeals mainly to Forces. And it's very easy to see why:
-Forces don't have to deal with element grinding (biiig deterrent for Melee/Range)
-Forces only have one weapon type to deal with (i.e. Rod) in terms of grinding and affixing (versus Rifle+Launcher+GS(+TMG) or Sword+Partizan+Double Saber+GS)
-All the current BiS rods are pyroxene weapons, so you don't have to worry about AQ-level prices

Not saying Melee or Range can't compete at all, and of course there are very affordable baseline TA weapons like Lambda Raizenork. BUT, it's easy to see why many people don't in terms of the necessary costs just to compete.


Times are up.

Yeah I can see why you might say that although purchasable 10*s (for premium clearly) and pyro's (basically purchasable 10*s anyway) make this far, far easier for other classes. More difficult to get into, yeah a bit. But given how much easier grinding and affixing is now cost-wise, its not terrible trying to get going in this. Element grinding is indeed a chore that leaves Forces oddly unaffected overall though.

Honestly though, there are still a number of well off ranged and striking players despite this. There are quite a few people with the funds and equipment to time attack that don't as well which isn't terribly surprising. I would hope to see more players in those classes do it, but as you've mentioned they are clearly more difficult to break into.

Bellion
Mar 31, 2013, 12:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNWGzpL7zA&feature=youtu.be
40 seconds VH Snow Banshee and Banther kill RA/FI. Think I may do an AQ one as well.

Shadowth117
Mar 31, 2013, 01:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNWGzpL7zA&feature=youtu.be
40 seconds VH Snow Banshee and Banther kill RA/FI. Think I may do an AQ one as well.

Its up now. If you do an AQ one, I won't list it with a rank, but I don't mind putting it up there still.

Z-0
Mar 31, 2013, 07:25 AM
Considering the difficulty of enemies in this game, I don't think BiS is necessarily required for melee and ranged because they do far much more damage than force that they'll pretty much one shot everything in Time Attacks (like, I'm not even joking. Force will only do 'more' with a bolt tree, but that requires constant charging for every single attack). For bosses, it will probably make a difference, but only that of a couple~few seconds.

It's still definitely more expensive to gear up melee and ranged versus force, though, although force still isn't cheap if you're going for expensive 4 slot sets or something.

But more on topic, I'm kind of interested in seeing some multiplayer Time Attack times. I never see them around on NND either (except Nab 1, and rarely Lilipa), so would be interesting to see what people could do.

Bellion
Apr 1, 2013, 09:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6pf5LQ1Mhk&feature=youtu.be
9 seconds Gwanada GU/RA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM5RTs80gKE&feature=youtu.be
14 seconds Tranmizer GU/RA

Shadowth117
Apr 1, 2013, 11:11 PM
Its up.

Z-0
Apr 3, 2013, 11:56 PM
Duo Marathon Training: Naberius - 4:46

Matt (RaFi), Tomia (FoFi)

It's only 2 seconds better, but the reason we're posting is because we have a recording this time.

It was our first try with a new strategy in Tundra also (basically swapping roles), so we could probably improve this easily.

RaFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFBYsypEOPQ

FoFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAik6oUuZZU

Forgot to pic the ending time, but whatever.

Cyron Tanryoku
Apr 4, 2013, 12:12 AM
Now I really want FOFI

Shadowth117
Apr 4, 2013, 12:26 AM
Updated.


Now I really want FOFI
Should I be... offended? ;_;

Cyron Tanryoku
Apr 4, 2013, 02:32 AM
Should I be... offended? ;_;

N-Nani?

Bellion
Apr 4, 2013, 02:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhdrZnwE8Sw&feature=youtu.be
49 seconds Rigshreida GU/RA. Don't have the patience for him to pop out of his shell very early to take out a few seconds.

Z-0
Apr 4, 2013, 02:22 PM
There's a better strat for Zesh which can be done easily and doesn't require him to "pop-out" early. Just needs a lot of firepower and maxed out Standing Snipe (and probably ZRA). Requires Homing Emission usage with rifle too.

I tried to do it while I was hunting Rig for MB but apparently I'm not strong enough to take him out on a leg knockdown with 30 light Fleetmalincas (or whatever they're called, the red pyro mechs). Plus for some reason my Standing Snipe kicks in really late on the 3rd PA instead of the 2nd, which reduces my damage by a bit.

I'll try again later, maybe with PA damage up from PP drink instead and see if I can do it. Don't think I had max ZRA at the time either.

Bellion
Apr 4, 2013, 02:27 PM
With Satellite Aim, SS Bonus usually applies on the 3rd PA. I should probably try taking out his legs.

Edit: Nevermind, Tourmalinkas have dropped down to 420k. Should've waited instead of just 50 elementing my Surukurai.

Rather than posting again, I'll just edit this in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6JcYOfCaSA&feature=youtu.be 51 seconds Dark Ragne

jiasu73
Apr 6, 2013, 09:50 PM
Duo Marathon Training: Riripa - 6:08

Matt (FoFi), Tomia (FoFi)

Matt(Lightning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUF_Qn4rH9s



Tomia(Fire)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyh1ZNDgf4A

Shadowth117
Apr 11, 2013, 11:48 AM
Wow, somehow I completely missed you guys posting that one 0_o

...Anyway its up although anything that used a lightning tree is now unranked and marked due to the zonde nerf.

On a side note, with how much melee/range gains from this last update, I really question them changing that actually.

Z-0
Apr 14, 2013, 06:29 PM
This thread is so far back. :l

Multi Marathon Training: Naberius - 2:58

Tomia (FoFi), Chicken (FoFi), Sen (RaFi), Matt (FiHu)

FiHu perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV6cEUI2gw8

Esofor
Apr 14, 2013, 09:18 PM
wow nice 4 man run. i wish i knew more people to run TAs with

anyways, here's one of my recent attempts at a solo VH Naberius I run. could be better, but too hard to optimize. i'd post a vid, but i don't want anyone to see my embarrassing mistakes

[spoiler-box]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3931/pso20130413201213002.png[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
Apr 14, 2013, 09:43 PM
Yours is up Zyn, good shit getting under 3 minutes.


wow nice 4 man run. i wish i knew more people to run TAs with

anyways, here's one of my recent attempts at a solo VH Naberius I run. could be better, but too hard to optimize. i'd post a vid, but i don't want anyone to see my embarrassing mistakes

[spoiler-box]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3931/pso20130413201213002.png[/spoiler-box]

Can you post what class combo you were using and your character name if you don't mind?

Esofor
Apr 14, 2013, 10:14 PM
oops sorry i forgot

it was FI/HU by Syhon

omgwtflolbbl
Apr 15, 2013, 12:05 AM
What moves are capable of chain killing in TAs? Is it entirely dependent on lag? I've managed to hit two spawns with a diffuse shell, but it happens very rarely.

jiasu73
Apr 15, 2013, 01:01 AM
Improved my VHNab1 time. FO/FI

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/2Zh7U8K.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Shadowth117
Apr 15, 2013, 02:27 AM
Updated first post.

@omgwtflolbbl:
I'm not the most knowledgeable on those as far as other classes go, but rafoie, foie, and zonde are examples of techniques that can bleed through like that. Someone else might be more knowledgeable on what works like that for other classes coughz-0cough.

TaigaUC
Apr 15, 2013, 02:41 AM
I heard they made some changes to the Lilipa TA to fix bugs (presumably the Vita spawn bug). Haven't gotten around to trying it yet, so I'd like to ask if anyone knows exactly what changes were made?

Shadowth117
Apr 15, 2013, 03:44 AM
I heard they made some changes to the Lilipa TA to fix bugs (presumably the Vita spawn bug). Haven't gotten around to trying it yet, so I'd like to ask if anyone knows exactly what changes were made?

Traps were added to the northern path of the cross section in the mines are as soon as you get on the conveyors. Aside from that and maybe the Vita spawn thing, I don't know that anything was changed. I do notice that zonde doesn't seem to reach the third robot in the first set in the long narrow path with a set of 3 Spardan A, Signo Guns, and sparguns leading to a gilnas in area 1. Not sure if that's related to zonde nerf though.

TaigaUC
Apr 15, 2013, 03:47 AM
Thanks for the info. I think the JP wiki said something like, the 2nd map is no longer considered "mines" and quests that require "in the mines" will no longer be completable there. It may have been like that all along, though.

Z-0
Apr 15, 2013, 07:38 AM
In the Time Attack quests, the second / third areas are never considered their native area, but rather the first. So if you get a Team Order that's like "Kill Darkers in Forest", boot up Nab2 and complete it in 5 seconds in Area 5. :wacko:

Also, in Lilipa TA, there is now a gate blocking north of the first spawn, so your northern path players cannot proceed early like before. However, SEGA are reverting Lilipa back to how it was due to numerous complaints (http://pso2.jp/players/support/measures/?id=1273).

Also, the Vita spawn limit is still there and I wish they'd remove it. After a certain numbers of enemies spawn, no more can spawn which is goddamn retarded. It's the same in normal maps too, so if you try to rush to the end of Subdue Za Oodan for your FUN runs on a Vita block, the end code will not spawn unless you kill enemies that have spawned already. :/

Esofor
Apr 16, 2013, 01:35 AM
improved my strat a bit

VH Naberius I - FI/HU - Syhon
[spoiler-box]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8371/pso20130415225844000.png[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
Apr 16, 2013, 02:08 AM
Updated, and I see you decided you liked it better as Fi/Hu than Fu/Hi :3

Saffran
Apr 16, 2013, 02:25 AM
Z-O> erm, no, they're saying that they changed Lilipa TA to fix bugs, implying that they are not reverting it back any time soon.

Esofor
Apr 16, 2013, 04:44 AM
Updated, and I see you decided you liked it better as Fi/Hu than Fu/Hi :3

i like to mistype that a lot =(

jiasu73
Apr 16, 2013, 02:17 PM
VH Nab 2 FO/TE 60/51 Fire Tree 6:51

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/6GBr9vs.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Shadowth117
Apr 16, 2013, 03:24 PM
VH Nab 2 FO/TE 60/51 Fire Tree 6:51

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/6GBr9vs.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Up, nice run btw. You should record.

Ryock
Apr 17, 2013, 07:15 PM
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/NAamv2m.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Lilipa as a FI/FO. Could probably use a little work, but thought it'd make a decent addition since no one's got a spot there atm.

jiasu73
Apr 17, 2013, 07:24 PM
VH NAB2 FO/TE 6:42. Messed up quite a bit but this is my fastest so far, will try perfect the run later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0_jIzjrhuA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0_jIzjrhuA

Esofor
Apr 18, 2013, 01:30 AM
oh god i hate amduscia TA soooo much. anyways, Syhon - Fi/Hu, amduscia

[spoiler-box]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1159/pso20130417232136001.png[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
Apr 18, 2013, 10:50 AM
Nice runs, they're all up now.

Yeah I really want to go try at some things myself, but with finals in less than a week I'm not feeling up to spending time doing that as of yet.

Z-0
Apr 18, 2013, 11:00 AM
To help with Amduscia, pimp out your mag with HP Restore B(?). Being able to restore your HP without using a mate is so incredibly useful (especially as a melee, much more so than Iron Will :rolleyes:). The main problem I always had with Amduscia was the goddamn sentries doing so much damage overtime since there's a lot of them in Area 1, and it drove me nuts how much time you lost as melee.

Esofor
Apr 18, 2013, 04:49 PM
is hp restore B better than hp restore A? i've been using A, which seems to have an ok trigger rate, but i also have B, so i'm not sure which is triggering lol

in area 1, i have to rely on not getting chain poisoned to have a decent run. it's a pain having to rely on not getting poisoned. i also probably need a better way to kill darkers

TaigaUC
Apr 18, 2013, 07:57 PM
In the Time Attack quests

Thanks for the detailed info!

Shadowth117
Apr 19, 2013, 06:49 PM
Goronzoran FoTe 1:53


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWtSPrAWJkA

For the record, this actually should be more powerful than a Fo Fi's dark should be. Now if only techer was this good of a sub class for elements that were actually generally useful...

DreXxiN
Apr 20, 2013, 11:34 AM
Very nice, can't wait to free up some time and jump into PSO2 TAing! One question, can GU/RA score competent times for solo TA with some other class combos? If not what are some competitive combos I should look into?

(To my knowledge, GU/RA is more of the skill bitch for group TA's :D.) Thanks for any suggestions! Would prefer not to level more classes if I don't have to but will if it allows me to race. ;)

Z-0
Apr 20, 2013, 11:37 AM
GU/RA is pretty dreadful for all TAs. Low damage, slow travel, etc.

For TA, the combos are:

HuFi, FiHu, RaHu (RaFi has been outclassed now), FoFi and FoTe.
Each one is used in different situations, such as HuFi in Nab2 group TA, FoTe in all Nab2 TA, FoFi in all other TAs, FiHu in all TAs (except Lilipa), etc. etc.

You need to put Step Attack on your RaHu tree though, otherwise RaFi is better.

DreXxiN
Apr 20, 2013, 11:59 AM
GU/RA is pretty dreadful for all TAs. Low damage, slow travel, etc.

For TA, the combos are:

HuFi, FiHu, RaHu (RaFi has been outclassed now), FoFi and FoTe.
Each one is used in different situations, such as HuFi in Nab2 group TA, FoTe in all Nab2 TA, FoFi in all other TAs, FiHu in all TAs (except Lilipa), etc. etc.

You need to put Step Attack on your RaHu tree though, otherwise RaFi is better.

Thanks for the input, I won't waste my time any further, then. Mind if I grab your card sometime on PSO2 if I find you? You seem pretty knowledgeable, if you don't mind some questions.

I used to be really, really into PSU TAing and am trying to catch up with the times and "meta" here. :)

Z-0
Apr 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
Go ahead, Player ID is Zynetic. Just search it on the Visiphone and I should come up. o.- (edit: assuming you're on ship 2)

Shadowth117
Apr 20, 2013, 10:14 PM
Dragon X FoTe 2:00


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGRG3jsf10U

Forgot to post this before since I did it not long afterward.

Z-0
Apr 21, 2013, 09:32 AM
Goronzoran 1:06, FoFi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-UXpoAmh-A

Too luck based. Sub 1-minute is easy, but lazy. I'll level Techer later because I think FoTe is better at this, but need 4 more SP (7 might be better acutally, so I can get Extend Assist too) ._.

Saffran
Apr 21, 2013, 10:51 AM
If you plan on doing less than 1 minute, Extend Assist is basically useless though, isn't it?

Z-0
Apr 21, 2013, 10:53 AM
Not exactly, as you use Shifta before you enter, and there's the time wasted from teleporting in and waiting for the cutscene to finish. In other words, it basically gives me the 5-10s to keep it going through the cutscene as well.

My Dark Tree is going to get it anyway, although my Techer is only level 50 right now so I don't have the SP to finish the tree fully. ._.

Z-0
Apr 21, 2013, 07:36 PM
Double post, but I guess it's not a huge problem here since I'm posting another record... x.o

Duo Marathon Training: Amduscia - 7:46

Matt (RaHu), Tomia (FoFi)

THHHHHHHRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPLL LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN is all I have to say about this.

RaHu perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJnkuJ9QSZE

FoFi perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfXb8cJnGd4

Also yes, I am triple dashing for the entire duration of this TA. No, I am not using macros. Yes, I live in Europe. It's pretty easy to do.

Esofor
Apr 21, 2013, 09:11 PM
got this in a casual lilipa VH run lol

[spoiler-box]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3258/pso20130417213251000.png[/spoiler-box]

i'll probably work on doing a better run later

Syhon FI/HU

Shadowth117
Apr 21, 2013, 09:45 PM
Don't feel like doing better at the moment so this will do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJ9lxdZjos

@Z-0: Lets not be silly here. If it were that easy, Tomia would be doing it as well. Connections also come into account here. Doesn't really matter if you're in Europe or Japan if you get frequent, sporadic delays in latency that kick in an extra half second to the switching. Not to mention as you've demonstrated, knuckle dash is almost as good.

Also, I just personally find that shit difficult to do consistently, especially with weapon switching. Props to you for pulling it off, but don't be a dick by implying its the easiest thing ever.

Aine
Apr 22, 2013, 12:46 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aqt0M5_uvRB1dGF3V3FRdVNFbHFWTFozT0U1WDZsS 2c&single=true&gid=1&output=html

Actually, for 0PP movement knuckle dash is faster than triple step if you do it manually instead of holding down attack. But if you take into account Assault Buster, triple step is faster.

Esofor
Apr 22, 2013, 03:14 AM
VH Naberius I Fi/Hu 7:45

feels like i can get 7:30 or less, but maybe need perfect run, pp down, better pc, and better eq. or a better strat lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz3670zcS1o

please excuse poor damage!

Z-0
Apr 22, 2013, 07:56 AM
Not much to suggest really. You should try seeing if you have enough attack to start skipping some JAs on enemies, as it can save quite a bit of time. It depends if you spec'd into FSU2 though, because if you didn't (and maxed JABs instead), it probably won't work. Also take team Shifta if you can, although I don't know how much power it has. Our team has 18% boost and it's hugely significant for Tee Ayin.

Strategy wise, you can add bullet the rappies in Tundra if you get the range right. Might be faster than walking over to each spawn, but might cause PP problems since you're not regenerating.

If you're curious about skill trees, I recommend this (http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?04fb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ik0lbInqnGU sIdqInfJiGA00000ebHoGBcAGKIbcA0000Ib00000ib00007b0 00009b000008) for Time Attacking myself. (take a point out of JAB if you want WLance Gear for things like Wolga in Naberius 2). (edit: sword gear is also unnecessary for naberius 1 and amduscia, although it's definitely useful in naberius 2 and I think it could be in lilipa. been meaning to take it for a spin to test)

milranduil
Apr 23, 2013, 08:27 AM
Obviously not a time even close to competition, but thought I'd post my own progress :)
Nab2 FO TE
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20130423_061507_000.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Milranduil/media/pso20130423_061507_000.jpg.html)

Kraiseson
Apr 23, 2013, 10:04 AM
Quick question;
I'd just like to know how it seemed like they skipped taking out the mobs in those portals on nab 1 in the very first video on the first page. lol

The one where they did it in close to 3 minutes.
Its absurd, but maybe if someone could clear up this little part, I may think it less absurd.

Z-0
Apr 23, 2013, 10:57 AM
[spoiler-box]http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130312_190951_000_zps5c82caa4.jpg (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/xzynetic/media/pso20130312_190951_000_zps5c82caa4.jpg.html)
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130312_190953_001_zpsb688f34c.jpg (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/xzynetic/media/pso20130312_190953_001_zpsb688f34c.jpg.html)[/spoiler-box]

Grants.

Aka
Apr 23, 2013, 10:59 AM
Quick question;
I'd just like to know how it seemed like they skipped taking out the mobs in those portals on nab 1 in the very first video on the first page. lol

The one where they did it in close to 3 minutes.
Its absurd, but maybe if someone could clear up this little part, I may think it less absurd.

If you have a Force(or Te) hug the white barrier at the back of the portal room, you can cast Grants through the barrier to break the rocks. This will then change the East and West portals. However, skipping the four corners room entirely will not allow you to clear the quest after killing Banther. In order for the quest to clear, the Agnis NEED to die. No idea why, that's just how it is. Our 2nd Force backtracks to kill these Agnis once they have cleared the Rappy spawn in Area 2.

Edit: Z-0 is a fgt.

Esofor
Apr 23, 2013, 04:55 PM
Not much to suggest really. You should try seeing if you have enough attack to start skipping some JAs on enemies, as it can save quite a bit of time. It depends if you spec'd into FSU2 though, because if you didn't (and maxed JABs instead), it probably won't work. Also take team Shifta if you can, although I don't know how much power it has. Our team has 18% boost and it's hugely significant for Tee Ayin.

Strategy wise, you can add bullet the rappies in Tundra if you get the range right. Might be faster than walking over to each spawn, but might cause PP problems since you're not regenerating.

If you're curious about skill trees, I recommend this (http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?04fb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ik0lbInqnGU sIdqInfJiGA00000ebHoGBcAGKIbcA0000Ib00000ib00007b0 00009b000008) for Time Attacking myself. (take a point out of JAB if you want WLance Gear for things like Wolga in Naberius 2). (edit: sword gear is also unnecessary for naberius 1 and amduscia, although it's definitely useful in naberius 2 and I think it could be in lilipa. been meaning to take it for a spin to test)

yeah, i maxed JAB instead of going for fsu2. i went for a more general build where i got everything, maybe i need another skill tree. i had no idea team shifta even existed lol. i'll probably put some work into TOs later.

during the early parts of tundra, i have a lot of pp to spare. maybe add bullet on rappies can work out.

cool skill tree. i'll probably try to do something like this in the future for TA

SakoHaruo
Apr 24, 2013, 02:34 AM
so.. would this be the right place to discuss the new time attack? I don't really want to make a thread when I know you guys/girls will be testing and discussing it here with other members, right?

Z-0
Apr 24, 2013, 03:25 AM
Possibly, I have no problems with using this thread for discussion.

I just played the quest and say it's very, very awesome (unlike Amduscia 1). It's a straight-up quest like PSO1/PSU where you kill enemies and proceed with no funny business. The wait-on switches DO NOT move faster with more people on them, so have one or two people as wait-on switch people (there are 2 in some rooms).

Goronzoran and Vol Dragon spawn quite close to each other in this quest, and Vol has no infection. I recommend a Fighter with a freeze double saber for this quest, as that's the fastest way to kill him with a party. 2 Rangers is also recommended.

There is a switch puzzle in area 2, where you press a switch and then move to others in order around the room. I'll get the order later today if someone doesn't beat me to it. At the end, the 3 bosses spawn separately of each other. I never fought more than one at a time, although it's possible that if you take too long, they'll spawn together.

Right now, my recommended party setup is:

FiHu (or HuFi), RaHu, RaHu, FoTe (or FoFi). Do not know if Dark is better for this. While everything might be dark weak, a dark tree might not necessarily kill faster.

Bellion
Apr 24, 2013, 04:05 AM
The last 3 bosses can fight together if you take too long. The barriers in the area before Vol with the 4 buttons that isolate you can go away if you take too long as well.

I really don't like standing on the buttons, but I think the enemy spawns are fine.

SakoHaruo
Apr 24, 2013, 04:17 AM
yeah I just did it on normal to learn things and I have to say it's a straight forword quest and seems hella short compared to the other TAs. I was looking for tricks/shortcuts but didn't find anything (of course that doesn't mean there isn't any shortcut) I even backtrack to check if any of the door in area 1 had opened up but nothing happened. maybe I killed the enemies in the wrong order or something? And lol at those buttons in area 2, I swear I thought It would never end.


Area 2 button order


D2 E1 E2 D1 D2 E1 E2 D1



D2 Mid

E1 Top Right

E2 Bottom Right

D1 Mid Left

D2 Bottom Left

E1 Mid (or Mid Right?)

E2 Bottom Right

D1 Top left (exit)

EvilMag
Apr 24, 2013, 04:18 AM
Not a bad quest. Only complaint I have is fighting Vol and Quartz can be annoying with the limited space you have.

Z-0
Apr 24, 2013, 08:44 AM
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/up49671_zps1b4cbc0e.jpg

milranduil
Apr 24, 2013, 08:56 AM
They heavily nerfed Goronzorans HP all around (his sticks as well as himself). I was doing ~1400 per Zan bounce after his sticks were gone and killed him with one break. Easily under a minute. Would be curious how fast FO FI can kill him (don't have FI leveled yet, HU is 1 lolz).

Z-0
Apr 24, 2013, 09:07 AM
Yes, patch notes states that they nerfed him. Made him stay down longer after breaking the poles lol. It's funny because FoFi or FoTe could already kill him under a minute solo... lol.

Kraiseson
Apr 24, 2013, 09:15 AM
If you have a Force(or Te) hug the white barrier at the back of the portal room, you can cast Grants through the barrier to break the rocks. This will then change the East and West portals. However, skipping the four corners room entirely will not allow you to clear the quest after killing Banther. In order for the quest to clear, the Agnis NEED to die. No idea why, that's just how it is. Our 2nd Force backtracks to kill these Agnis once they have cleared the Rappy spawn in Area 2.

Edit: Z-0 is a fgt.

Thank you.

Shadowth117
Apr 24, 2013, 12:50 PM
Gotta say, I really do love this mission. Decided to try lightning fo fi and dark fo te. Dark Fo Te definitely seems to work better overall though in my opinion...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9HxxrMCzvo

Gen2000
Apr 24, 2013, 01:12 PM
New TA pretty cool. Just having lv.55 enemies on VH makes you have to work a little bit more than the previous ones.

It's gimmick with the weight buttons and the Area 2 buttons seems pretty pointless and I'm not sure why the first weight button is so much faster than all the rest but whatever. I give it thumbs up overall and hope they push out some more soon (heard there is a Ruins and City one coming next?)

Edit: @ Z-0: Oh, really? Damn I misunderstood then, oh well.

Z-0
Apr 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Ruins and City are AQs, unfortunately. :/

Bellion
Apr 24, 2013, 04:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vpl4whjZac&feature=youtu.be
Goranzoran post nerf 34 seconds. Wow, they nerfed this guy quite a bit.

I need to get more consistent with Triple Dashing before going back to actual TAing. Not entirely sure if it's latency on my end that's making me so inconsistent, though.

Z-0
Apr 24, 2013, 05:12 PM
Latency doesn't make you inconsistent when it comes to triple dashing unless your connection is shaky (eg: changes its ping to things often). Providing it's a consistent connection, you just need to get the timing and practice it, nothing more than that.

That being said, Knuckle Dashing is hardly outclassed. Faster than Triple Dashing unless you use Assault Buster, although if you're planning on RA/HU, you'll probably need to triple.

And a step most people miss: You must JUMP to make the weapon switch occur, otherwise it will seem really slow. In other words:

Weapon Switch -> Dash -> Jump -> Dash -> Jump -> Dash -> Attack -> Repeat.

Esofor
Apr 24, 2013, 05:30 PM
I recommend a Fighter with a freeze double saber for this quest, as that's the fastest way to kill him with a party. 2 Rangers is also recommended.


i've heard of this strategy before, but i'm not sure how it works exactly. do you have to hit the legs for it to freeze? if so, do you switch to hitting the face once you freeze it?

Bellion
Apr 24, 2013, 06:11 PM
Latency doesn't make you inconsistent when it comes to triple dashing unless your connection is shaky (eg: changes its ping to things often). Providing it's a consistent connection, you just need to get the timing and practice it, nothing more than that.

That being said, Knuckle Dashing is hardly outclassed. Faster than Triple Dashing unless you use Assault Buster, although if you're planning on RA/HU, you'll probably need to triple.

And a step most people miss: You must JUMP to make the weapon switch occur, otherwise it will seem really slow. In other words:

Weapon Switch -> Dash -> Jump -> Dash -> Jump -> Dash -> Attack -> Repeat.

My connection is a bit unstable, but that's because of the shared wifi at my dorm and it is quite annoying when someone downloads too much. I do plan on going Ra/Hu for some TAs, so I really do need to get the hang of it. I'm content with knuckle dashing on my Fo/Fi, so it's fine.

I'll keep the jumping in mind for the weapon switch. I'm sure I've been doing just that but probably missing it a few times. Thanks for pointing it out, though. Maybe I'll get it right this time.

SakoHaruo
Apr 24, 2013, 07:13 PM
triple dashing is easy on nab and amd but I can't do it consistent on Lillipa. all the shit going on causes my FPS to drop in certain spots. I just started to solo my tacos and I wont get near any of the times posted on the front page until I get some better gear.

jiasu73
Apr 24, 2013, 08:22 PM
FO/TE
GoronzoranVH ・ ゴロンゾラン 0:26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fH30jZUa6U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fH30jZUa6U

Z-0
Apr 25, 2013, 09:52 AM
i've heard of this strategy before, but i'm not sure how it works exactly. do you have to hit the legs for it to freeze? if so, do you switch to hitting the face once you freeze it?
For the plan to work efficiently, you will want Weak Bullet, otherwise your damage will be quite piddly. It works providing you don't have adds, and is consistent in that manner, but it will take a while.

What you do is hit the leg with a Freeze Weapon or Freeze Technique (the level of Freeze on your weapon doesn't matter, proc rate doesn't increase with levels I'm pretty sure, considering I very rarely shock Falz with shock 5 weapons, but shock 1 mechguns shock him often), which will freeze him. Ranger applies Weak Bullet to the leg, then everyone zergs on it (Zan if you're FO, HE if RA, Deadly Archer if melee). This will kill him quickly and efficiently; there's no better way of doing it if you have melee players in your party.

Zenobia
Apr 25, 2013, 03:02 PM
This place was fun to solo gotta say another challenge for me done getting better everyday. If I had my other sword I would have cut my time way more than this.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74XT4Mb0sXc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74XT4Mb0sXc

Esofor
Apr 26, 2013, 02:50 AM
For the plan to work efficiently, you will want Weak Bullet, otherwise your damage will be quite piddly. It works providing you don't have adds, and is consistent in that manner, but it will take a while.

What you do is hit the leg with a Freeze Weapon or Freeze Technique (the level of Freeze on your weapon doesn't matter, proc rate doesn't increase with levels I'm pretty sure, considering I very rarely shock Falz with shock 5 weapons, but shock 1 mechguns shock him often), which will freeze him. Ranger applies Weak Bullet to the leg, then everyone zergs on it (Zan if you're FO, HE if RA, Deadly Archer if melee). This will kill him quickly and efficiently; there's no better way of doing it if you have melee players in your party.

here i was worrying that i'd need to spend who knows what trying to get freezeIII+quartz+powerIII on a new weapon

does the weapon need to be ice attribute? i'm not 100% sure, but i think it said that vol's leg had no elemental weakness

Shadowth117
Apr 26, 2013, 03:23 AM
Anything that wasn't up should be now.

Crimson Exile
Apr 29, 2013, 06:14 PM
VH NAB 1 DUO
炎雷覇せかい Fo/Fi
Crim Fi/Hu
[spoiler-box]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/Darkcloud1022/pso20130429_163813_002_zpsef1ced11.png (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Darkcloud1022/media/pso20130429_163813_002_zpsef1ced11.png.html)[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
Apr 29, 2013, 06:15 PM
Oh, a duo with you and Fire man? Nice.

Crimson Exile
May 1, 2013, 04:43 AM
Crim Fi/Hu
Mizer 00:26
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnJtxmB4IgA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnJtxmB4IgA[/spoiler-box]

Goukezitsu
May 1, 2013, 07:12 PM
Goukezitsu HU/FI
Goranzoran 00:23


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REHRgo0lk

Just did a quick one for fun. Too many forces not enough hunters. HU for lyfe!

Zenobia
May 1, 2013, 07:26 PM
Goukezitsu HU/FI
Goranzoran 00:23

?PSO2???????TA?HU/FI? 0:23 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REHRgo0lk)

Just did a quick one for fun. Too many forces not enough hunters. HU for lyfe!

GOOD SHIT WE NEED MOAR HU/FI VIDS D<!!!

Shadowth117
May 1, 2013, 08:46 PM
GOOD SHIT WE NEED MOAR HU/FI VIDS D<!!!
You're so good though Zenobia, you should make some too.

Edit: On a more serious note, that Gorognzoran run... I didn't know Over End would be quite that effective lol.

Goukezitsu
May 1, 2013, 09:03 PM
You're so good though Zenobia, you should make some too.

Edit: On a more serious note, that Gorognzoran run... I didn't know Over End would be quite that effective lol.

Surprisingly over end is really good against a lot of things. Like on banther i break all the nails at once ( for the most part ). I can break all of goranzorans orbs at the same time with 1 over end but its hard to do cuz i have to be at an angle and swing twice to weaken them. I did it once and I might do it when I'm bored again.

Zenobia
May 1, 2013, 09:19 PM
You're so good though Zenobia, you should make some too.

Edit: On a more serious note, that Gorognzoran run... I didn't know Over End would be quite that effective lol.

Nupe I wanna stay a noob HU/FI and watch dem other HU/FI's from the sideline's.

I can't deny shadow you're a hella badazz FO/FI or/FOTE? I just like teasin you in deh mist of our debates<3

Yeah I use OE on him all deh time break all his crystals guy is a joke worse than RB o3o.

milranduil
May 2, 2013, 07:33 AM
Tried my hand at this again.
Nab2TA FO/TE
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20130502_032307_000.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Milranduil/media/pso20130502_032307_000.jpg.html)

I also did Amduscia TA in 15:XX, but forgot to screenshot it like a derp... I'll have to try again once I decide to spend 2 hrs TAing again with shifta tree. Maybe I won't get lvl 2 infection this time >___>

Crysteon
May 2, 2013, 09:31 AM
Goukezitsu HU/FI
Goranzoran 00:23

?PSO2???????TA?HU/FI? 0:23 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REHRgo0lk)

Just did a quick one for fun. Too many forces not enough hunters. HU for lyfe!

GJ out there. I wonder how a Dragon Slayer would virtually destroy Goronzoran if it had Lv3 latent (considering its damage boost against dragons is the double than Sadinan Edge) I'm a retard, because Zyn says so ;<.

And...uh...I sort of forgot about the existence of this topic until now, so I'm putting this for the purpose of the thread itself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxZgu0RNaA

[spoiler-box]
I messed up a lot on this run, for which I obviously consider it bad. For some reason, I couldnt use Straight Charge consistently, probably due random frameskipping caused by Dxtory.

If I have some free time later, I might try to improve this.
[/spoiler-box]

Z-0
May 2, 2013, 11:35 AM
Just a correction: Dragon Slayer DOES NOT boost damage against Dragonkin. It reduces your damage taken from Dragonkin...

Assuming I am reading this right anyway:


龍族から受けるダメージを15%軽減する

Also,


Too many forces not enough hunters. HU for lyfe!
Don't worry about it. Since the 4/10 (and hell, even before it), melee is a far better class for Time Attacking. Force really pales in comparison to Hunter and Ranger these days in all gameplay modes (no matter what PSO-World says) due to overall lower DPS and the requirement to charge absolutely goddamn everything.

There's a reason the best Altar TAs are done with no FOs (for example this was done by my team, with 3 FI and 1 RA (http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130501_001038_000_zpsfe139864.jpg)).

To further drive the point, double melee strategies are used in Naberius II and Amduscia with only 1 FO. There is no FO in Duo Naberius 1 and 2 also, as RA and FI is far better (the only reason we didn't use a FI is because of latency problems; we can't kill like the Japanese).

Crysteon
May 2, 2013, 12:10 PM
Just a correction: Dragon Slayer DOES NOT boost damage against Dragonkin. It reduces your damage taken from Dragonkin...



Whoops, my bad. I was reading that lazily, lol.

Goukezitsu
May 2, 2013, 07:18 PM
Vol Dragon 00:32
Goukezitsu - 60 HU/FI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHmTfTVPpvc

Yes yes I know more dragons right? I'm working on banthers next atm. I'm down to under a min I just need to work out a few things with over end since it breaks all the parts instead of hitting weak points. So i'll have to tweak the distance so it alternates between face and nails. It'll be fun. I might assault buster it off first who knows. Should be finishing up soon.






Don't worry about it. Since the 4/10 (and hell, even before it), melee is a far better class for Time Attacking. Force really pales in comparison to Hunter and Ranger these days in all gameplay modes (no matter what PSO-World says) due to overall lower DPS and the requirement to charge absolutely goddamn everything.

There's a reason the best Altar TAs are done with no FOs (for example this was done by my team, with 3 FI and 1 RA (http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130501_001038_000_zpsfe139864.jpg)).

To further drive the point, double melee strategies are used in Naberius II and Amduscia with only 1 FO. There is no FO in Duo Naberius 1 and 2 also, as RA and FI is far better (the only reason we didn't use a FI is because of latency problems; we can't kill like the Japanese).

Yea i was thinking that. Reading here though it just seemed like people still think hunter isn't one of the best (or saying its not even better than force lol) and i think it's crazy. I thought hunters were good before the patch but now they are just awesome.



Oh and Burn Spaada has the same latent. So that would be the sword you'd wanna see on him.

Edit: That time is lookin nice on altair. You should throw a vid up of it. I enjoyed the other nab TA one though i still have no idea how you guys skip that circle on b1. I haven't TA'd there enough apparently ; ;

Saffran
May 3, 2013, 03:11 AM
To skip the circle, go with a Fo up to the barrier and Grants the rocks into oblivion. This will change the destination set by the teleporters.

Goukezitsu
May 3, 2013, 09:20 AM
Goukezitsu HU/FI 60
Snow Twins: 00:50


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlOB3dWMDuQ

Well here's another. This one is NOT a dragon and it was a bitch. Over end snaps off everything partwise first before you get to the weak points so if u just keep swinging it head on you'll never get to the weakpoint damage which is the whole meat of killing him them quickly. I used a lot of other PAs as well its just none of break the parts as quick as over end. With my 50% fire raizenrok i couldn't 1 shot the nails so it was useless (I need a 50% gekitsnata :3). I also tried some weird PAs out because who knows maybe it would have been randomly amazing (okay okay I wanted to make a video with ride slasher in it).

Oddly enough, the best tool seemed to be the regular slash on the sword. It helped weaken the nails so that over end could break the front nails in 1 shot vs multiple which exposed the face and then you have to turn over end away and almost backwards or else it will hit the nails way in the back. I think rangers got this tho. Even if I clean up the run I think I personally can only match the current time and that would be it's peak.

I'd like to see other hunters give this one a whirl. It's harder than it looks. Thinking on it though, Fighter probably would make this much easier lol.




To skip the circle, go with a Fo up to the barrier and Grants the rocks into oblivion. This will change the destination set by the teleporters.

Ah that makes sense! Thanks :D

jiasu73
May 3, 2013, 01:54 PM
Tried Nab2 again did a bit better this time [SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/K7MX9Dd.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Crimson Exile
May 3, 2013, 04:21 PM
Crim Fi/Hu
Wolgahda 00:38
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBk_yPj_YFU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBk_yPj_YFU[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
May 3, 2013, 04:43 PM
All are up.

Crimson Exile
May 4, 2013, 04:48 AM
Crim Fi/Hu
00:55 Quartz Dragon
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8K_geK5G2o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8K_geK5G2o[/spoiler-box]

milranduil
May 4, 2013, 09:40 PM
Shadow should do a Quartz vid with dark FO TE :3 (since my TE is only 52...)

Shadowth117
May 5, 2013, 12:22 AM
Shadow should do a Quartz vid with dark FO TE :3 (since my TE is only 52...)

I would if it weren't random as hell with poison.

Aka
May 5, 2013, 02:12 AM
13:19 Altar as Fi/Hu.
Zyn has already done better though I believe.

milranduil
May 5, 2013, 04:37 AM
I would if it weren't random as hell with poison.

I know :( I still haven't even come close to my 35 second run earlier... and that was with Dark Mastery Lv 6 only lol...

Shadowth117
May 5, 2013, 10:17 AM
13:19 Altar as Fi/Hu.
Zyn has already done better though I believe.

Well you've got to post something other than words with that... And yes I'm very aware of what 'shopping is. Still, its been done up to now by everyone else.

As far as what Zyn has done, it ain't been posted here and so for the purposes of this thread it may as well not exist. I mean if you want to be like that, there's an 11:32 run of that by a JP Fi/Hu on Nico.

~Aya~
May 5, 2013, 10:47 AM
Well you've got to post something other than words with that... And yes I'm very aware of what 'shopping is. Still, its been done up to now by everyone else.

As far as what Zyn has done, it ain't been posted here and so for the purposes of this thread it may as well not exist. I mean if you want to be like that, there's an 11:32 run of that by a JP Fi/Hu on Nico.


/ takes video down

Cover blown

Z-0
May 5, 2013, 10:49 AM
12:40 was my first solo run of Altar as FiHu. It's the only one I've ever actually completed because I keep ragequitting.

I almost got a sub-11 run earlier, but then the first Cater and Quartz were like "lol nope, not poisoning :wacko:"

The TA is far too luck based overall, as there's so much that can go wrong at nearly every point in the TA if luck is not on your side (first room, deegala room, goron room, room before last, and obviously the last). Relying on RNG to get fast times is just silly, as I have to hope everything poisons in the last room to do it quickly.

I'll probably get my sub-11 done at some point, but it probably won't be anytime soon as the TA drives me crazy.

Goukezitsu
May 6, 2013, 07:40 PM
Yea i killed quartz in like 2? over ends or something crazy like that when i was helping for a CO. Then i realized it was poison on the 2nd one and hit for like 75k and I was like, "well this is going to be annoying to record."

I gotta do one of these solo NAB 1 2 or Ama TA vids. I just don't really have the time for long runs right now so I just do the quick boss ones since they don't take as long to get down (since we fight them all the time anyway.) I might do the new one or NAB 2. They look kinda fun.

Goukezitsu
May 7, 2013, 12:00 AM
De Mammoth :rappy: 0:19
Goukezitsu - 60 HU/FI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GbphfK8Yw

This one was different. I found a good way to make it more consistent. Hitting with wise stance was a pain at first so i made sure to hit his butt so he'd sit on me but sometimes he will pick u up with him and it ruins the whole thing or his butt will push u back to the ground and you cant hit weakspot. I had a run with a regular mammoth a good time too but I didn't knuckle dash in the beginning so I scrapped the whole video haha.

When I saw the mari I was thinkin, "Welp that runs ruined" then it came out perfect and I was like, "I'm okay with this."

Crimson Exile
May 7, 2013, 12:05 AM
De Mammoth :rappy: 0:19
Goukezitsu - 60 HU/FI

?PSO2???????(??????)TA?HU/FI? 0:19 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GbphfK8Yw)

This one was different. I found a good way to make it more consistent. Hitting with wise stance was a pain at first so i made sure to hit his butt so he'd sit on me but sometimes he will pick u up with him and it ruins the whole thing or his butt will push u back to the ground and you cant hit weakspot. I had a run with a regular mammoth a good time too but I didn't knuckle dash in the beginning so I scrapped the whole video haha.

When I saw the mari I was thinkin, "Welp that runs ruined" then it came out perfect and I was like, "I'm okay with this."
You just reminded me to upload my de vid. i think its like 20+ secs but DS use lol. I will leave the sword to you ^^

Goukezitsu
May 7, 2013, 10:09 AM
You just reminded me to upload my de vid. i think its like 20+ secs but DS use lol. I will leave the sword to you ^^

Yea same here. I'm leaving the double sabers to you lol. I'm just gunna do HU stuff only and you can take care of the fighter stuff. You might see my crap proxy fossil tricks make a debut on an all parts vardha tho haha.

Z-0
May 7, 2013, 11:05 AM
I'm kind of the opposite when it comes to TA'ing; I really hate doing boss runs because of the time taken to actually run to the boss, and then to find out the boss acts in a completely random manner meaning you have to start all over again (thus meaning more running!). I was going to do a RaHu boss compilation against GuRa, but after I did Rockbear (which was like 8 or 9 seconds; it was a belt lol), I just gave up coz I couldn't be bothered running to each boss.

I rather do TA runs because I can just start again without the whole "waiting" process, plus it allows me to try and improve on what I've already done. o/

Naoshi
May 7, 2013, 09:23 PM
Prefer Boss Rush because Loading time on TA ;x

Goukezitsu
May 7, 2013, 11:14 PM
Yea I like the non random-ness of TA. I used to TA in PSU on PC/PS2 and won both MAGs for TA as at the time we were the best team on the server and I really love the idea of strategy. You have to make up a whole plan and try to execute it then tweak it to get the time down as well as minimize randomness. Boss rushing is actually not as random as it looks. You can minimize randomness in there too like my de mammoth kill I can do every single time I go in there because I found a way to make the boss react a certain way. But yea some shit is just random tho so you just have to find a way to cut it down as best as you can.

What I don't like about longer TAs is that there are little mistakes that can ruin a whole run at the very end. I'm sure you know all about how it's so painful to have that perfect run and bam someone makes a tiny error (say weakbullet misses or something) and the run is entirely fucked.


Edit: And running to the boss portal is actually what determines what video i do next lollll. I hate doing that shit so depending upon my mood I pick easier boss portal runs (tundra is the easiest). I wanna do dragon ex but I hate that run.

Crimson Exile
May 7, 2013, 11:36 PM
Yea I like the non random-ness of TA. I used to TA in PSU on PC/PS2 and won both MAGs for TA as at the time we were the best team on the server and I really love the idea of strategy. You have to make up a whole plan and try to execute it then tweak it to get the time down as well as minimize randomness. Boss rushing is actually not as random as it looks. You can minimize randomness in there too like my de mammoth kill I can do every single time I go in there because I found a way to make the boss react a certain way. But yea some shit is just random tho so you just have to find a way to cut it down as best as you can.

What I don't like about longer TAs is that there are little mistakes that can ruin a whole run at the very end. I'm sure you know all about how it's so painful to have that perfect run and bam someone makes a tiny error (say weakbullet misses or something) and the run is entirely fucked.


Edit: And running to the boss portal is actually what determines what video i do next lollll. I hate doing that shit so depending upon my mood I pick easier boss portal runs (tundra is the easiest). I wanna do dragon ex but I hate that run.
Lol I agree. most boss move the way you want them except for small few like quartz etc etc. Lol I still haven't fought Dragon Ex. How do you fair against chrome? (he annoys me so much lol)

Goukezitsu
May 8, 2013, 12:06 AM
Lol I agree. most boss move the way you want them except for small few like quartz etc etc. Lol I still haven't fought Dragon Ex. How do you fair against chrome? (he annoys me so much lol)

Oh my lord chrome is annoying. I haven't really gotten to fight him solo but once so its hard to know if his behavior is so annoying because of aggro switching around but its a pain. He moves around a lot and his face is really small. The easiest places to hit have some serious armor on them so you have to hit his face. I honestly think double saber would be better on that boss than sword. I found some good places to over end him (when eating and during the screams when his hp is low), but i dunno I'll have to try it. I agree I don't like it lol.

Oh try dragon ex. I think you'll love it. I fight him with double saber normally and max range DA completely trashes him. I'm going to fight him with tanking over end and automate half-line for the video though lol.

Crimson Exile
May 8, 2013, 12:20 AM
Oh my lord chrome is annoying. I haven't really gotten to fight him solo but once so its hard to know if his behavior is so annoying because of aggro switching around but its a pain. He moves around a lot and his face is really small. The easiest places to hit have some serious armor on them so you have to hit his face. I honestly think double saber would be better on that boss than sword. I found some good places to over end him (when eating and during the screams when his hp is low), but i dunno I'll have to try it. I agree I don't like it lol.

Oh try dragon ex. I think you'll love it. I fight him with double saber normally and max range DA completely trashes him. I'm going to fight him with tanking over end and automate half-line for the video though lol.
How many Hu trees do you own? i was thinking of getting a 2nd. Also lol I need new units 100pp only gets you so far xD.

Goukezitsu
May 8, 2013, 12:51 AM
How many Hu trees do you own? i was thinking of getting a 2nd. Also lol I need new units 100pp only gets you so far xD.

Well. 4 Hunter trees and 2 fighter trees. I messed up a few times on my trees back in the day and I made one for subbing other classes so now thanks to the reset I have alot of tree to play with. Heres my trees:

Hunter sub FI optimal w/ automate halfline
Hunter sub FI optimal raw dps
Hunter sub RA optimal raw dps
Hunter standlone optimal raw dps
Fighter sub HU w/chase
Fighter sub HU w/o chase

Yea, I'd go for atleast 120 pp honestly. That's the sweet spot. I'm working on a stigma set up to get 160pp for 4 over ends.

Goukezitsu
May 8, 2013, 04:36 AM
Quartz Dragon - 00:21
Goukezitsu - 60 HU/FI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OyMVXwQbE0

Yea poison happens. The result would be the same without poison as far is his position but a few seconds slower. This one wasn't too hard. He always does that crystal thing at the beginning like 80% of the time so hes just sitting there. I just gotta make sure I'm in the right position for over end and you have to wait a little in between or else his head will be in the wrong place so that's why you don't see me do it 3 times in a row consecutively. I also have to see which stagger hes doing so I know how much time I have in between over ends.

Pretty painless though i THINK i could do a wise stance video ( I tried it out earlier ) and could possibly 2 shot with poison but i don't know know if i feel like doing that right now maybe when I finish all the bosses.

Dragon EX or Zesh is next!

Crimson Exile
May 8, 2013, 02:34 PM
Crim Fi/Hu

00:16 Rockbear
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR9qj8s7804"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR9qj8s7804[/spoiler-box]

00:27 Caterdran
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD1C3cUp0O4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD1C3cUp0O4[/spoiler-box]

00:35 Gwanahda
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGjV9XkPSQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGjV9XkPSQ[/spoiler-box]

Shadowth117
May 9, 2013, 04:13 PM
Still would like to do a lot better, but I did improve by a whole minute (and funnily enough, exactly that)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iluuVhawz8U

Z-0
May 9, 2013, 07:25 PM
Marathon Training: Lilipa - 4:46

Matt (RaHu), Sen (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi), Syhon (FiHu)

Can be improved, mainly on the Mizer kill, since I messed up my dashing a lot near the end which meant we had to wait for his core to open since I was late. Probably some other areas to improve but who knows.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130510_012032_000_zpsacb726c5.jpg

Link1275
May 9, 2013, 07:30 PM
Marathon Training: Lilipa - 4:46

Matt (RaHu), Sen (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi), Syhon (FiHu)

Can be improved, mainly on the Mizer kill, since I messed up my dashing a lot near the end which meant we had to wait for his core to open since I was late. Probably some other areas to improve but who knows.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/xzynetic/pso20130510_012032_000_zpsacb726c5.jpg
How on...?!?!?! I attempted Lilipa not that long ago and it took me over an hour! What is the secret to this one?

Bellion
May 9, 2013, 07:44 PM
4:46? Dang, that's very good. In the desert, did you guys cut through from C-4 to C-3 or went around from C-5 to B-3?

Z-0
May 9, 2013, 08:00 PM
guess I can share


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ4Eifolzmk

We cut after the second pod, because it's a lot faster if you plan it correctly.
Also, for some reason, the game feels horribly unresponsive on unlimited FPS, which is why my triple dashes are slow / fail consistently. I'm not sure what it is but it never happens on 60FPS.

Goukezitsu
May 9, 2013, 08:08 PM
Damm that pretty hot Zynetic!

Here's a funny one:

Rockbear 0:12
Goukezitsu - 60/52 HU/RA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWFbXts5K9A

Just because I could lol.

Link1275
May 9, 2013, 09:07 PM
guess I can share

446 lilipa - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ4Eifolzmk)

We cut after the second pod, because it's a lot faster if you plan it correctly.
Also, for some reason, the game feels horribly unresponsive on unlimited FPS, which is why my triple dashes are slow / fail consistently. I'm not sure what it is but it never happens on 60FPS.

The game feels unresponsive at unlimited, because your PC is trying to play the game at the fastest speed it can. Your problem is that your pc is adequate for your current settings, but it's not ultra-high-tier above the required level for that graphical setting. Basically, leaving it at 60 chokes your computer from going full throttle and going overboard like it does on unlimited. If you were to upgrade your pc to well over the required minimum for your settings you could leave it on unlimited quite easily.

Btw, Anyone else having any problems with the youtube video player lately?

milranduil
May 10, 2013, 04:11 PM
The game feels unresponsive at unlimited, because your PC is trying to play the game at the fastest speed it can. Your problem is that your pc is adequate for your current settings, but it's not ultra-high-tier above the required level for that graphical setting. Basically, leaving it at 60 chokes your computer from going full throttle and going overboard like it does on unlimited. If you were to upgrade your pc to well over the required minimum for your settings you could leave it on unlimited quite easily.

Btw, Anyone else having any problems with the youtube video player lately?

By problems do you mean where it randomly skips back some portion of time in the vid? Or the vid stops because youtube thinks it's suddenly over when it actually has 10min left or something? Because those are the problems I've been having lately....

Esofor
May 18, 2013, 09:04 PM
VH Lilipa Fi/Hu 9:16

gonna need to nerf my graphix next run. lagged waaaay too much when trying to quad dash. heck, even triple dashes felt bad. probably gonna use the same template to try a sub 9 run when i start sucking less/lagging less


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6CX-Rgwto

Shadowth117
May 18, 2013, 09:56 PM
Arks Grand Prix 2013 4:49 FotTe solo! Because why not?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtZgMgMdZ48

Pretty boring run really. But with only 3 techs I could really use at all, the boring tree fits the boring run. Its a shame that S rank seems just out of reach on Fo, but ah well.

Esofor
May 21, 2013, 11:34 PM
VH Naberius I 7:15 fi/hu

wanted to see how fast i could do it with my current gear

still have some control issues lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmagtJBUSUE

Shadowth117
May 26, 2013, 12:38 PM
VH Naberius I 7:15 fi/hu

wanted to see how fast i could do it with my current gear

still have some control issues lol

【PSO2】VHTAナベリウス走破演習Ⅰソロ 7:15 Fi/Hu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmagtJBUSUE)

Ugh, somehow I missed this, but nice run man. Up on front page now.

gunwale
May 29, 2013, 12:59 AM
Hi i am new. You guys are really amazing. How do you change weapons that quickly?

I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dboi6jvXqEU a 6.19 Nab1 VH solo by a FI/HU. Her damage is insanely high I wonder how do you even reach that high.

jiasu73
May 29, 2013, 01:03 AM
Hi i am new. You guys are really amazing. How do you change weapons that quickly?

I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dboi6jvXqEU a 6.19 Nab1 VH solo by a FI/HU. Her damage is insanely high I wonder how do you even reach that high.

I only play keyboard so im not sure how controller players do this but for keyboard you can set weapon switching commands to the number pad, 1-0 or F1-F12. I prefer having it on 1-0 myself since I find it easier to triple dash /Quad dash that way. ( i still cant quad dash though not cool like Esofor! :( )

Crimson Exile
Jun 2, 2013, 11:08 PM
VH NAB 1 DUO 5:19
炎雷覇せかい Fo/Fi
Crim Fi/Hu
[spoiler-box]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/Darkcloud1022/pso20130602_233051_002_zps09a7d952.png (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Darkcloud1022/media/pso20130602_233051_002_zps09a7d952.png.html)[/spoiler-box]

Esofor
Jun 25, 2013, 08:23 PM
it's saddening that this thread is buried under so many screenshot threads. sucks that people care more about screenshots/looking pretty than TA or interrupt ranking. competition is kinda dry between NA players

anyways, got back from a short break. none of my gear changed, but i feel like i executed things a little better and used tree this time. too lazy to mute my music and use an external source of music

6:56 VH Naberius I Fi/Hu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgJqYFuJlwQ

Shadowth117
Jun 25, 2013, 08:46 PM
I think a lot of people are trying to get gear or are just kind bored of the game at the moment. I myself managed to get tendinitis triple dashing manually on a controller so I can't do either right now. :D

Regardless, good run.

Esofor
Jun 25, 2013, 11:06 PM
yeah, i can see people getting bored of the game, seeing as i only play TA/IR nowadays

the thing about gearing up is it's not that hard. i've had people tell me that i'm really strong, but my gear is absolute trash. i'm missing about 135 s-atk in unit affixes/bonuses alone. i spent maybe 10 mil tops on my basic set of gear and i'm waiting until maybe the next difficulty to upgrade

and tendinitis sounds like it sucks =(. i feel like i wouldn't play this game if i couldn't dash

Esofor
Jun 26, 2013, 07:55 PM
double post :D

i'm not sure how much better i can do because lilipa is so random with enemy spawns and some movements that i can't figure out, so i'll just live with sub 9 for now

8:55 VH Lilipa Fi/Hu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWE3KoYQCY4

Z-0
Jul 2, 2013, 08:58 PM
Marathon Training: Amduscia - 5:52

Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu), Sen (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi)

[spoiler-box]Matt's perspective:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d__-oX6NJQM

Tomia's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxFY3Qn8a5I[/spoiler-box]

Marathon Training: Naberius II - 3:22

Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu), Sen (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi)

[spoiler-box]Matt's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpgEU0k4-BQ

Syhon's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWc-Ua4Lnqk

Tomia's perspective:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtN1YoPCfz0[/spoiler-box]

Esofor
Jul 2, 2013, 09:02 PM
forgot to hit record on amduscia

soooooo mad

Z-0
Jul 2, 2013, 09:02 PM
like I always say, you're a faget :3c

Shadowth117
Jul 2, 2013, 09:44 PM
Lol, I've yet to get a run that didn't suck anyways where I forgot to record, but I get how that must be.

Aaaanyways, I did this since I saw how awesome the fork's latent was in a vid on Nico and wanted to try my hand at it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDIHvy6kMBg

milranduil
Jul 11, 2013, 08:59 AM
Came back to NabII since I got an Amaterasu and can one shot various spawns now. Finally got my 6:XX run.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20130710_225454_000.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Milranduil/media/pso20130710_225454_000.jpg.html)

Ryock
Jul 15, 2013, 11:51 AM
Sanctuary running. Made quite a few mistakes, so I could definitely bring this down to 15:30 or 16:00. But not bad at all for a FI/FO.

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/2hXexMr.jpg[/spoiler-box]

milranduil
Jul 16, 2013, 07:23 AM
Finally cleaned up my Nab2 TA with FO/TE.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20130716_043836_001.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Milranduil/media/pso20130716_043836_001.jpg.html)

With Psycho Wand or Koi-whatever rod, 5:XX is easily possible. I think a perfect run with my equips would be ~6:10-6:15.

Shadowth117
Jul 16, 2013, 04:40 PM
Nice runs guys. Idk, I haven't practiced much with nab II so I don't see myself putting a run of that up for a while.

But also, with the new techs coming out, I see some faster times with them. The dark one is potentially very promising and fire one could certainly be useful as well if its strong. Of course, they could all be complete shit too. But hey, at least some of the new PA's will probably be uber!

Edit: Oh yeah, and times posted up front.

Shadowth117
Jul 18, 2013, 10:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPAq7Jr7sk

So yeah... namegid is amazing... Also, caters are trolly as hell.

Lostbob117
Jul 23, 2013, 04:33 PM
Bal Rodos - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ZVz_UBuf4&feature=youtu.be
Video time is pretty much the time.

Shadowth117
Jul 23, 2013, 05:32 PM
Bal Rodos - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ZVz_UBuf4&feature=youtu.be
Video time is pretty much the time.

What difficulty is this? Its impossible to see with the quality on the video.

Lostbob117
Jul 23, 2013, 09:05 PM
What difficulty is this? Its impossible to see with the quality on the video.

Very hard

Shadowth117
Jul 23, 2013, 09:27 PM
Ah alright, its up now.

Esofor
Jul 25, 2013, 02:24 AM
that's a cool altar run, shadowth. new magics really make fo feel a bit better!

if only it was possible for you dash =(

Dnd
Jul 25, 2013, 09:16 PM
Nab 2 - VH - Solo Hu/Fi
[SPOILER-BOX]http://imageshack.us/a/img547/8817/7t55.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
Not the most impressive time, was too tired to knuckle dash and wasted a good 30-40 seconds on annoying birds/ruins spawns >_>;

FireswordRus
Jul 26, 2013, 02:58 AM
Well, I'll be the first. Not good time, but...
Abduction Darker's Den - Solo Fi/Hu 57:44


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioxnij_AjMg

milranduil
Jul 26, 2013, 04:31 AM
Improved my Nab2 FO/TE time by all of 8 seconds :3 it was hard to do much with the new techs (including namegid...). Basically the only change was a very slightly cleaner area 1 and using Nafoie for Rockbear/Cyclonedhas. Rest of the run is the same.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20130726_020413_002.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Milranduil/media/pso20130726_020413_002.jpg.html)

Dinosaur
Jul 26, 2013, 10:58 PM
4:57 nab2 Gu/Hu

http://www.twitch.tv/gmcustom/c/2641462

It's not a fully optimized run, but my first sub 5 Nab2. I was able to hit the last area in under 4 minutes on a previous run, so I should be able to save at least 20 seconds from this time before I load into the last area.

PB is now 4:49.

Shadowth117
Aug 4, 2013, 10:25 AM
*dusts off thread*

Z-0
Aug 4, 2013, 08:06 PM
Duo Marathon Training: Lilipa - 5:22

Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu)

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/e5QOtxJ.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[spoiler-box]RaHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY1e6VclyA
FiHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Gpk8jvbbY[/spoiler-box]

Yawn. Sub-5 later.

Shadowth117
Aug 5, 2013, 08:03 AM
Duo Marathon Training: Lilipa - 5:22

Matt (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu)

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/e5QOtxJ.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[spoiler-box]RaHu perspective:
?PSO2?VH?????????5:22???TA?RaHu?? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY1e6VclyA)
FiHu perspective:
522 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Gpk8jvbbY)[/spoiler-box]

Yawn. Sub-5 later.

So you don't even have to go all the way through the catwalk area on that side so long as you go far enough into it? That's pretty hilarious actually. Also was not aware that mud settings killed weapon switch frame drop like that. I don't really like recording on settings like that, but I might need to for braver related stuff later. Also my first time seeing that javelin pa used so that was pretty amusing.

Z-0
Aug 8, 2013, 10:39 PM
Yeah so、 Skewer got patched and it reaches like nothing anymore, so... we'll fix that at a later date.

However.

Marathon Training: Lilipa - 4:19

Matt (RaHu), Sen (FiHu), Syhon (FiHu), Tomia (FoFi)

[spoiler-box]RaHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWpPpruSXvY
FiHu perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_wQdWenV4
FoFi perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSf4IypoUUk[/spoiler-box]

Breakthrough Training: Altar - 4:33

Matt (FiHu), Sen (RaHu), Syhon (FiHu), Kamekur (FiHu)

[spoiler-box]Matt's perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--UHicmN6qM
Syhon's perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR1CWllDhzY[/spoiler-box]

Bellion
Aug 18, 2013, 11:56 AM
Time to revive this thread, I guess.

Ra/Hu Amduscia VH 10:43
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EGmSdVxb54"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EGmSdVxb54[/SPOILER-BOX]

Ra/Hu Naberius 1 VH 7:39
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M01eMVHJQE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M01eMVHJQE[/SPOILER-BOX]

Shadowth117
Aug 18, 2013, 11:58 PM
Omg, you revived the thread <3

Really cool to see a ranger doing Amd to me. That doesn't happen too often often. The Nab1 run is nice as well.

I feel like I want to ta something, but I feel like everything has been really played out on the game at the moment. Been doing random games in lieu of TA. Maybe they'll add that other arks gp mission so I can mess about with that soon? Not exactly the most interesting mission to ta in my opinion given its brevity and lack of actual drops, but still something that's not the other few missions there are now.

Dinosaur
Aug 19, 2013, 11:21 AM
Gu/Hu Den 10:43
http://i.imgur.com/Pka2rTl.jpg
not da bes run, but whatever.

Gu/Hu Nab2 4:38
http://i.imgur.com/rRCpIMC.jpg
Sub 4:30 is possible.

Shadowth117
Aug 19, 2013, 08:35 PM
Added those to the front.

milranduil
Aug 20, 2013, 04:10 AM
Omg, you revived the thread <3

Really cool to see a ranger doing Amd to me. That doesn't happen too often often. The Nab1 run is nice as well.

I feel like I want to ta something, but I feel like everything has been really played out on the game at the moment. Been doing random games in lieu of TA. Maybe they'll add that other arks gp mission so I can mess about with that soon? Not exactly the most interesting mission to ta in my opinion given its brevity and lack of actual drops, but still something that's not the other few missions there are now.

It's your turn to do FO TE nab2 :3

EDIT: Also, you put his Amd RAHU vid in the riripa section.

Esofor
Aug 22, 2013, 12:21 AM
wanted to try this for fun

didn't turn out too bad, but my execution on RA is still a bit shaky

syhon - rahu nab1 642

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbIiuC8vlww

sub 630 possible, but fuck ranger

and fuck hitting level 60

NeverDT
Aug 22, 2013, 05:32 AM
sub 630 possible, but fuck ranger

and fuck hitting level 60

rip tryhard syhon

Esofor
Aug 23, 2013, 01:35 AM
fuck i got sub10 amu1 as fihu

but i forgot to press record noooooooooooooo

mommy_cornelia
Aug 23, 2013, 02:13 AM
Dragon Ex in 1:58


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8mJAEirZYo


and

Bal Rodos in 3:34


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU7xpUpPUlA

Shadowth117
Aug 23, 2013, 01:18 PM
Ah man Syhon... that blows man lol. Good luck with getting another good run. By the way, dat wonda...

Cornelia's runs are up now too.

mommy_cornelia
Aug 23, 2013, 01:22 PM
Just a little something i noticed... how do people calculate their time? I used just my whole video lenght... but the other people have lower times than their vids... from WHEN does the time actually start and when do you stop the timer when killing a boss?

Fleur
Aug 23, 2013, 01:28 PM
Just a little something i noticed... how do people calculate their time? I used just my whole video lenght... but the other people have lower times than their vids... from WHEN does the time actually start and when do you stop the timer when killing a boss?

It says the time when it shows your rank at the end...


Edit: Herp didn't read for bosses. I'd imagine most people start when you can move, and end with the death cutscene.

Shadowth117
Aug 23, 2013, 01:29 PM
Just a little something i noticed... how do people calculate their time? I used just my whole video lenght... but the other people have lower times than their vids... from WHEN does the time actually start and when do you stop the timer when killing a boss?

People do it different ways, but I had been calculating from end of boss intro cutscene to beginning of boss death cutscene myself, rounding up and down respectively to the nearest second for start and end times.

Its somewhat hard to standardize it given the lack of indication by the game of how fast you killed them.

Edit:

It says the time when it shows your rank at the end...

Not for the boss battle alone it doesn't. And only for TA missions. I'm pretty sure Cornelia was referring to boss battles though.

mommy_cornelia
Aug 23, 2013, 01:31 PM
People do it different ways, but I had been calculating from end of boss intro cutscene to beginning of boss death cutscene myself, rounding up and down respectively to the nearest second for start and end times.

Its somewhat hard to standardize it given the lack of indication by the game of how fast you killed them.

Edit:


Not for the boss battle alone it doesn't. And only for TA missions. I'm pretty sure Cornelia was referring to boss battles though.

Yeah, boss battles xD

Anyway, i did a rough calculation and Dragon Ex is 1:37 and bal rodos is 3:13

Shadowth117
Aug 23, 2013, 01:32 PM
Yeah, boss battles xD

Anyway, i did a rough calculation and Dragon Ex is 1:37 and bal rodos is 3:13

Alright, I'll change it accordingly. Yeah sorry about the lack of notation on that.

Esofor
Aug 30, 2013, 03:10 AM
nab1 duo 4:14
syhon fihu, yumi rahu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Wd9MUp7TE

4:0x definitely possible

makeshift strats (i suck at strats)
to be improved later

i was also incredibly laggy lol

Z-0
Aug 30, 2013, 08:04 AM
Congrats Yumi! You should find another fihu imo

Zenobia
Aug 30, 2013, 12:09 PM
Hmm I should get back into this been slated back somewhat. Anyway didn't know we could post bosses.

Lvl 60 AQ Falz Hunar in 2:32 Br/Hu

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzKFq43eR6o&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg

Z-0
Aug 31, 2013, 11:58 AM
Solo Marathon Training: Lilipa - 8:28

Eva (FoBr)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA1PZfiQ1zQ

I personally think a Fire FoFi or a Lightning FoHu could do this under 8 minutes quite comfortably, but I'm behind on Force equipment because I'm frugal with my money so don't really have the power to use those combinations. _(:3」∠)_

Zenobia
Aug 31, 2013, 12:13 PM
Done Bal Rodos 5min exact

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzC6dBIphdk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg

Z-0
Sep 3, 2013, 10:00 PM
Solo Breakthrough Training: Altar - 8:19

Eva (FoTe)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euce1U70PpA

ok yeah this is pretty bad. first room requires way too much luck, my mag isn't capped, I'm still using 3s units (lol) and I messed up more times than I can count

will work on sub 8 during the week since there's new content to not enjoy.

Shadowth117
Sep 3, 2013, 11:08 PM
Solo Breakthrough Training: Altar - 8:19

Eva (FoTe)

?PSO2?VH????????8:19 ???TA?FoTe - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euce1U70PpA)

ok yeah this is pretty bad. first room requires way too much luck, my mag isn't capped, I'm still using 3s units (lol) and I messed up more times than I can count

will work on sub 8 during the week since there's new content to not enjoy.

:o Someone finally beat that. I'm surprised someone didn't do it earlier with a demonic fork though.

The 11* rod doesn't really help anywhere with the number of hits as far as I remember. As long as you have a fork, PP from units, etc. you're probably fine as far as that goes.

I do like some of the ideas in that run though as you yourself touched on their execution leaves something to be desired in many cases.

I might bother with general ta again (aside from lillipa because in my opinion that mission can die forever ~+^_^+~) if I get quad dashing down, but I've been playing Pokemon and random other things lately due to lack of content. Maybe super hard will bring in something new to care about for me...

Edit: Out of curiosity, does the pyroxene talis do enough to give an advantage with its latent? I would think it would, but idk. But considering how having higher than 3s units might make a difference...

Esofor
Sep 4, 2013, 12:17 AM
fork works, huh? might work on getting one for altar, as i feel really weak there!

there is not much to do before super hard hits (fuck idk if there'll be much to do when super hard hits anyways), so more TA is always cool. cool north american strats go!!!!

Shadowth117
Sep 4, 2013, 12:22 AM
fork works, huh? might work on getting one for altar, as i feel really weak there!

there is not much to do before super hard hits (fuck idk if they'll be much to do when super hard hits anyways), so more TA is always cool. cool north american strats go!!!!

If I recall, for gimegid ticks it was around 300 damage less per tick? I don't believe anything suddenly started one hitting that didn't before to be quite honest. Namegid is namegid and I don't... *think* that changed with hits? It might have, but not by much.

Zenobia
Sep 5, 2013, 08:36 AM
Just waiting for the OP to be updated with these bosses.

Anyway.

Vardha Somo Br/Hu Solo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOPxqjm8SNY&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg

Blu Ringadha Br/Hu Solo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOMxKLpqME4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUak8YP-W7iFTMwYqlkBELHg

milranduil
Sep 5, 2013, 08:44 AM
If I recall, for gimegid ticks it was around 300 damage less per tick? I don't believe anything suddenly started one hitting that didn't before to be quite honest. Namegid is namegid and I don't... *think* that changed with hits? It might have, but not by much.

The only difference I noticed with Fork compared to your run when I ran this was it took an extra hit on Vol to kill him (7 vs. 6), and first Cater takes an extra hit too (dismissing lolpoison ofc). Rest should be the same.

TaigaUC
Sep 6, 2013, 05:17 AM
Does it still count as solo if you drag bots along with you?

Dinosaur
Sep 6, 2013, 11:01 AM
Gu/Hu Nab2: 4:27
http://i.imgur.com/4FsoGlu.jpg
I think I can get 4:20. Being able to have all the enemies in the last area kill themselves when I messiah on Ragne would help.

Shadowth117
Sep 7, 2013, 10:29 AM
Does it still count as solo if you drag bots along with you?

I'm going to say no here. Were this game more like PSU maybe, but weak bullet is something far too good and too randomly used by the bots to allow here in my opinion. I'll add a note about this to my first post.


Getting around to posting the latest times up now. Haven't felt like playing much of PSO2 last few days so I started a nuzlocke of a randomized Pokemon Black.

TaigaUC
Sep 7, 2013, 10:42 AM
Thanks for the reply.

Well, my best Gu/Hu solo times are only around 8 minutes to 15 minutes for all the TAs.
Nothing special. The lag probably hurts me a lot.
Always waste around 6 shots of Infinity Fire before the next set of spawns shows up.
Looks like it's instant for other people.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Shadowth117
Sep 7, 2013, 10:52 AM
Thanks for the reply.

Well, my best Gu/Hu solo times are only around 8 minutes to 15 minutes for all the TAs.
Nothing special. The lag probably hurts me a lot.
Always waste around 6 shots of Infinity Fire before the next set of spawns shows up.
Looks like it's instant for other people.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

That's really not normal, even for a European connection. I'm not sure where you're from or what you're connecting through, but that sounds like really, really bad ping. Even on a plane playing Vita PSO2, I've managed to get relatively decent (shitty in comparison to usual, but good given circumstances) ping with enemy spawns and such. So yeah, I don't know if you can do anything about that, but I'd check up on it.

Z-0
Sep 7, 2013, 11:05 AM
Actually, it's normal for a European connection too. Enemy spawns are delayed somewhat that I can really notice it sometimes, especially when the spawn is when I'm next to the enemy.

Shadowth117
Sep 7, 2013, 11:12 AM
Actually, it's normal for a European connection too. Enemy spawns are delayed somewhat that I can really notice it sometimes, especially when the spawn is when I'm next to the enemy.

They can get delayed sure, but not by that much I would imagine. Or maybe I'm just misinterpreting what he means with his timing. I've played at ping where I can quad kill with rafoie and I've played at ping where I can't even double kill with it if that gives you an idea.

Given your telling me that you can consistently double kill rafoie with your connection, it shouldn't be *too* terrible generally. But what he's saying was what I would assume to be 2-3 second delay for a spawn to come up to me which sounds very wrong. Of course, correct me if I'm wrong there as I can see myself being very off with the timing.

TaigaUC
Sep 7, 2013, 09:12 PM
It's more like a 1 second delay, which is still enough to waste PP and attacks.
In JP time attack videos they like to do stuff like one cluster bullet that kills a whole set of spawns.
Can't do that on my side. I always fall through De Marmos on Naberius 2, too.
Weapon changing sometimes takes 1-2 seconds.
On Falz Arms, sometimes it starts and I move and attack for a bit, then I teleport back to the start.
Arms themselves like to teleport too.

Might be partially because of my ISP.
I noticed that YouTube/Nico streaming seems slow and online games lag/jerk during peak times, but not when everyone's asleep.

Even without the lag, I'd probably only be a minute faster at best.
Still way behind you guys.

Esofor
Sep 9, 2013, 02:14 AM
nab1 solo 6:30
syhon fihu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcXwcrZPgag

i swear if i didn't make some of the mistakes i made, i'd be under 630

Zenobia
Sep 9, 2013, 02:52 AM
Lol...dat platforming on first go.

I want to solo nab 1 but I want a better bow before hand.

Good run though.

Dnd
Sep 9, 2013, 05:36 AM
Bal Rodos VH - Solo Fi/Hu (2:05)
http://www.twitch.tv/minidnd/c/2898810

Blu Ringahda VH - Solo Fi/Hu (2:30)
http://www.twitch.tv/minidnd/c/2898791

Catadra'nsa VH - solo FI/Hu (0:26)
http://www.twitch.tv/minidnd/c/2898797

The Ringahda kill is pretty sloppy, I could probably get sub 2 mins if I dont mess up on the core like that, the cata kill was also pretty bad but a times a time i guess lol.
Now i just need to 50 element the crys caliber weee~

(also apologies for small video size and possibly advert(s) - twas the only way I could upload them ;_;)

TaigaUC
Sep 9, 2013, 08:07 AM
Are there any good bow TA videos? I usually check Nico Video for PSO TAs but didn't see any for bow.
I'd like to see how people are playing bow, because I feel like I'm not doing it properly.

Esofor
Sep 9, 2013, 02:46 PM
bal rodos vh solo ~57s
syhon fihu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqfXn8NXzx8

figured i'd try to see if i could kill it in one down

strikerhunter
Sep 9, 2013, 02:51 PM
bal rodos vh solo ~1:08
syhon fihu

108 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqfXn8NXzx8)

figured i'd try to see if i could kill it in one down

Nice, lol good choice of music xD.

I've seen Gu/Ra and Ra/Hu downing Bal Rodos a lot faster, like 15 sec or so solo.
But hey that's nice time for Fighter ^^

Z-0
Sep 9, 2013, 03:09 PM
No, GuRa and RaHu don't kill Rodos in 15 seconds solo. To do that you'd have to kill Rodos before he's even hookable, which I'm pretty sure is not possible considering how much HP Rodos has.

Esofor
Sep 9, 2013, 03:13 PM
lol wait

it takes like 35 seconds to get him down, how can you solo it in 15 seconds?

edited my boss time cause i counted cutscene time for some reason

shachao
Sep 10, 2013, 05:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKb5vbEGcBc

Shadowth117
Sep 11, 2013, 12:33 PM
Alright, well I think that's all up to date. People always seem to post so I usually wait a little when that happens depending on things.

By the way Syhon, you should totally have named your nab1 "Disconnect".

And Kemicho, props for the Kyurem theme. Just played through Black and Black 2 actually. Didn't really expect to hear that in a PSO2 video.

And to whoever had the Bullet Bow question, there are boss kills with it and they are fairly fast. PA's used were things like Kamekaze Arrow and Master Shoot. And weak bullet of course.

Z-0
Sep 11, 2013, 04:39 PM
Solo Marathon Training: Naberius - 6:30

Eva (FoBr)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_Q19zN16k

Some mistakes, could be sub 630 but I really cannot be bothered. I should've used gunslash for dashing more now that I think about it.

Dinosaur
Sep 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
All done as Gu/Hu solo

Dragon Altar TA - 6:58
http://i.imgur.com/rIghbK1.jpg
looking for something around 6:30 if everything goes right

Darker Den - 9:11
http://i.imgur.com/IPFepD1.jpg
can save at least 30 seconds by avoiding damage(this will be fun)

Zenobia
Sep 13, 2013, 06:29 AM
Nab 2 TA a few screw ups here and there and my mag screwed me a bit as well.

Got a bit lucky on A1 start off with the mobs grouping up setting me up for some good Kanran's

Also messed up on the one shot on Rock bear to lazy to redo another so I am satisfied with this.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9N6NROJdJA&feature=youtube_gdata

Ordy
Sep 13, 2013, 07:02 AM
No, GuRa and RaHu don't kill Rodos in 15 seconds solo. To do that you'd have to kill Rodos before he's even hookable, which I'm pretty sure is not possible considering how much HP Rodos has.

No way to kill it in 15s time, but here is a 53s RA/HU Bal Rodos VH Solo

Starts at 00:52


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOU3oxkcsco