How does this work?

[Hero-Break]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9qcJRgk4IE

Te/Hu using Umbila Stick...? Don't you have to have a FO Main/Sub in order to cast techs from rods. Or does simply having a class that can use techs allow you to cast from all multi-class casting weapons?

Thanks for the reply.

[Z-0]

Personally I think a more pressing matter is how somehow took over 30 minutes to do Naberius II BUT yes, all you need is a class that can cast techs and you can cast techs using -any- weapon.

[Caledonia]

It's an all-class rod.

Like there are also all-class swords that a force could use.

Basically: some weapons can be used by anyone, regardless of type/class.

[Hero-Break]

It's an all-class rod.

Like there are also all-class swords that a force could use.

Basically: some weapons can be used by anyone, regardless of type/class.

Yeah, that is true. But in your example unless you have a HU Main or Sub you can't use the swords PAs. It's kind of strange the tech weapons are the exception.

[Caledonia]

I've not tested that, but in your video the guys is a Te/Hu so he should have access to techs from the Te side of his build. Techniques aren't weapon bound because they are not PAs --A PA generally involves use of the weapon, a technique is pure photon energy.

Sorry, I'm carrying on two arguments in my head here. Let me narrow this down.

Rod is a Force weapon that allows techniques to be set on the weapon pallet

Techer is a class that allows the use of Techniques

Umblla stick is an all-class rod.

Therefore: a Techer may cast techniques with an Umblla stick

... I don't know if a RA/GU could cast techniques with an Umblla Stick however.

[Cyclon]

... I don't know if a RA/GU could cast techniques with an Umblla Stick however.
No. You need Techter or Force as your main or sub to use techs at all.

[Caledonia]

No. You need Techter or Force as your main or sub to use techs at all.

In which case that solves it. Techniques are basically the PAs for both Force and Techer, so a Techer using an all-class rod has access to all its techniques. Techniques are not an exception to the use of all-class weapons.

[jooozek]

Personally I think a more pressing matter is how somehow took over 30 minutes to do Naberius II BUT yes, all you need is a class that can cast techs and you can cast techs using -any- weapon.

seeing how the rockbear throw does 1 dmg to them
i dont think it needs any explanation

[Daiyousei]

seeing how the rockbear throw does 1 dmg to them
i dont think it needs any explanation

De Malmoth's snowballs do 1 dmg to my Gu/Ra so it all came down to standing still and shooting his horn while taking everything he throws in the face.

[jooozek]

De Malmoth's snowballs do 1 dmg to my Gu/Ra so it all came down to standing still and shooting his horn while taking everything he throws in the face.

those do shit damage, im talking about rockbear catching you and throwing; in the aq i remember getting catched once and i was one shot :-?

[Daiyousei]

reminds me of that one video of someone buffing defence so much fang twins deal only 1 damage

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Right but the cost of doing that is your damage output is practically nonexistent

[Zenobia]

No. You need Techter or Force as your main or sub to use techs at all.

Have you ever played FO or TE? If you have would know both FO and TE share the same PA skill's also Umbra stick is all class weapon so it's not effected by Tecter class what so ever.

Yeah and game is about offense purely so def builds are hardly needed sense enemies die in practically seconds....

[Syklo]

Have you ever played FO or TE? If you have would know both FO and TE share the same PA skill's also Umbra stick is all class weapon so it's not effected by Tecter class what so ever.

Yeah and game is about offense purely so def builds are hardly needed sense enemies die in practically seconds....
FO and TE have no PA's; they use technics/techniques (however you want to spell it :-?)
Umbra rod is all-class
Techs placed on a weapon palette is exactly the same as placing it on the subpalette - it's just activated differently.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Aside from the fact that techs are shared between the two classes, they're treated just like PAs when it comes to classes and subclasses. They are for all intents and purposes PAs

[Zenobia]

FO and TE have no PA's; they use technics/techniques (however you want to spell it :-?)
Umbra rod is all-class
Techs placed on a weapon palette is exactly the same as placing it on the subpalette - it's just activated differently.

Damn you leave me alone and let me state some PSU terms dammit~<3

[Syklo]

Damn you leave me alone and let me state some PSU terms dammit~<3
As someone who has never played such a game

I DENY!

[Zenobia]

As someone who has never played such a game

I DENY!

Q.Q

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[Lumpen Thingy]

Damn you leave me alone and let me state some PSU terms dammit~<3

AP,fighgunner, S+10's now start listing more dam you

[Zenobia]

AP,fighgunner, S+10's now start listing more dam you

AMG WHY YOU DO DIS TO ME Q.Q!!

Speaking of that wouldn't mind if Pro-Tranzer or Fight-Master came back >.>.

[Lumpen Thingy]

AMG WHY YOU DO DIS TO ME Q.Q!!

Speaking of that wouldn't mind if Pro-Tranzer or Fight-Master came back >.>.

I'd say the same to fortegunner but ra/fi is pretty much the same thing :D

[Zenobia]

I'd say the same to fortegunner but ra/fi is pretty much the same thing :D

BLEEHHHHHHH!!

[Cyclon]

Have you ever played FO or TE? If you have would know both FO and TE share the same PA skill's also Umbra stick is all class weapon so it's not effected by Tecter class what so ever.
Hm...
Yeah, so, okay, so, yeah, so what exactly in my sentence made you think that I... didn't know that...?
Guys, the answer was litterally given in the second post why is this still going on WHAT.

[Zenobia]

Hm...
Yeah, so, okay, so, yeah, so what exactly in my sentence made you think that I... didn't know that...?
Guys, the answer was litterally given in the second post why is this still going on WHAT.

Cause we are bored which is why I purposely quoted you knowing full well what you meant~ D: I SOWWI BUT WE ISH BORED<3

[Cyclon]

Cause we are bored which is why I purposely quoted you knowing full well what you meant~ D: I SOWWI BUT WE ISH BORED<3
Ooooooooooooooooooooh.
Okay.