why is melee so boring in this game?

[Alisha]

it seems like every melee weapon ive tried eventually bores me to tears. i mean i tried partisan at first but it eventually became the assault buster show. boring. then i tried fists and that was also fun for a time but also eventually became boring. same story with WL. i remember having a similar issue in psu wich led to me quitting and not coming back till PSPo2. since i do enjoy Te/Fi melee wich requires more thought than just JA'ing into a PA rinse and repeat/chains are what got me into PSPo2 i'm wondering is melee class/Gu any good?

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Yes it's awesome. Now dont pick it since it's op.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

Saying TE/FI requires more thought makes me doubt every single thing written here.

Avoid melee classes all together if they bore you though

GURA supremacy

[Zenobia]

SCREW ALL OF THIS MELEE SUPREMACY ಠ_ಠ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Saying TE/FI requires more thought makes me doubt every single thing written here.

Avoid melee classes all together if they bore you though

GURA supremacy

Te/Fi requires more thought because it's horrible 8D

[emily05]

Melee is most fun for me :X the only reason it gets boring sometimes is you have to chase after monsters so much.. then it gets really annoying when you chase something down and its dead by the time you get there >.> when you do get to fight though I think its fun.

[blace]

Partisans and knuckles.

Partisans are alright on their own, but the PAs are a bit lackluster, and knuckles have their hit stop and are really close ranged.

You were expecting better?

[Alisha]

its not melee itself thats boring. its that its not providing me with enough mental stimulation resulting in me nearly falling asleep in some area's.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Melee is most fun for me :X the only reason it gets boring sometimes is you have to chase after monsters so much.. then it gets really annoying when you chase something down and its dead by the time you get there >.>

when do get to fight though I think its fun.

I read this and said "yeah...forces rock".


Cuz they do..

[Shinamori]

Chase after mobs? Ride Slasher.

[emily05]

not providing me with enough mental stimulation resulting in me nearly falling asleep in some area's.


thats just PSO2 in general XD nothing to do with melees.

pso2 would put anyone to sleep >_>

[Alisha]

did you come from psp2i?

yes i did.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

Every fighter weapon to me is like
Anti-run away

Those fuckers ain't goin' anywhere

[Syklo]

its not melee itself thats boring. its that its not providing me with enough mental stimulation resulting in me nearly falling asleep in some area's.
I can somewhat agree on this...

Then again, it's funny when you're on a quad-tranmizer run and everyone except you DC's at boss room.

Have fun with them tranmizers.

[Zenobia]

I can somewhat agree on this...

Then again, it's funny when you're on a quad-tranmizer run and everyone except you DC's at boss room.

Have fun with them tranmizers.

I welcome the danger Yuri aint scared of no damn multi tranzmizer battle BRING IT ON!!! D<

[SociableTyrannosaur]

I welcome the danger Yuri aint scared of no damn multi tranzmizer battle BRING IT ON!!! D<

...She said with her face in the dirt.

[Zenobia]

...She said with her face in the dirt.

I slipped and fell it's cool...

[emily05]

Every fighter weapon to me is like
Anti-run away

Those fuckers ain't goin' anywhere

I main fighter and I havent noticed that it's "anti run away" >_>

[SociableTyrannosaur]

And I assume the mizer tracks on your back came shortly after...

[emily05]

Issue discovered.

This won't be holding a candle anytime soon, if ever.

was that game much better? :X

Really disappointed with pso2 but curious about the other PS games

[UnLucky]

Melee bores you to tears... But Te/Fi is engaging?

The melee class with no PAs? And the worst casting weapon in the game?

Zan is overpowered for wand gear building, stop using it.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I main fighter and I havent noticed that it's "anti run away" >_>
Do better then
Might have to practice more

[Zenobia]

was that game much better? :X

Really disappointed with pso2 but curious about the other PS games

I loved the dumans and dem infinity blast I can tell ya that I could go on a rant on how good it IS but im to lazy :>

[blace]

was that game much better? :X

Really disappointed with pso2 but curious about the other PS games
It was a vast improvement over PSPo2. Many things were rebalanced and fixed, such as EVA and DEF getting nerfed and fixed respectively.

I don't remember much about knuckles from that game though. I do remember the knuckles in PSPo2 were something like this:
http://psp2.psupedia.info/images/1/1d/Gudda_Las_Leord.jpg

[Zenobia]

I also loved how they made the swords swing faster best shit ever.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Yeah by the time I'd finished with PSP2 I had lost interest and never got into PSP2i. I made a duman and hacked her levels to see if I even wanted one. Wasn't impressed and stopped playing after the beach area.

Everyone who played it more seemed to really enjoy it so I probably should have given it more time, but between no obvious changes and not having anyone to play with, I just wasn't interested.

[blace]

I also loved how they made the swords swing faster best shit ever.
Who needed a sword and shield when you had Nagisa's Steel Heart sword? Loved the rocket animation with each swing.

[Gardios]

But smacking stuff with caster weapons is extremely fun.

Techer fuck yeah.

[blace]

But smacking stuff with caster weapons is extremely fun.

Techer fuck yeah.
Posted this originally in the screenshot thread.

Edit: I goofed up. Editing again soon

Who says wands aren't useful?
[spoiler-box]It certainly does the job against this impostor force.
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/4084/pso20130401160327000.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/940/pso20130401160350002.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/4420/pso20130401160430005.png
[/spoiler-box]
I doubt she'll be walking straight again after that.

[Zenobia]

Who needed a sword and shield when you had Nagisa's Steel Heart sword? Loved the rocket animation with each swing.

How many times must I say this SWORD MAINER 2HANDED BRO btw that is what Nagisa's weapon was a 2handed sword who said anything about a shield who where is this person?

[blace]

How many times must I say this SWORD MAINER 2HANDED BRO btw that is what Nagisa's weapon was a 2handed sword who said anything about a shield who where is this person?
Just the Vanguards I met in PSPo2 who wanted to block and use a saber.

[Zenobia]

Just the Vanguards I met in PSPo2 who wanted to block and use a saber.

I must slay him......

[emily05]

one thing about partisans not being fun.

does anyone really hate the sound work they did on the partisan photon arts? I think its why I dont like them.

the photon art sound effects dont sound weighty or dangerous, like a spear should sound(imo). it all makes a "Thwap! thwap!" sound, like youre swinging a tree branch.

I know people dont think about this kind of stuff but i think subconsciously you do ^^

[Cyron Tanryoku]

The only time I cared about sound was when they moved my laugh from charging to PB

[SociableTyrannosaur]

one thing about partisans not being fun.

does anyone really hate the sound work they did on the partisan photon arts? I think its why I dont like them.

the photon art sound effects dont sound weighty or dangerous, like a spear should sound(imo). it all makes a "Thwap! thwap!" sound, like youre swinging a tree branch.

I know people dont think about this kind of stuff but i think subconsciously you do ^^

I don't like partisans because they suck.

[emily05]

The only time I cared about sound was when they moved my laugh from charging to PB

yeah, its not something where you would actively be thinking "WOW, i hate these sounds"

but I think it could contribute to them not being fun/cool. you don't hear that "thwap thwap" tree branch sound effect on the spears, and feel like a badass. It SOUNDS weak.

[Alisha]

Yeah by the time I'd finished with PSP2 I had lost interest and never got into PSP2i. I made a duman and hacked her levels to see if I even wanted one. Wasn't impressed and stopped playing after the beach area.

Everyone who played it more seemed to really enjoy it so I probably should have given it more time, but between no obvious changes and not having anyone to play with, I just wasn't interested.
no obvious changes? wat?

[NoiseHERO]

The only time I cared about sound was when they moved my laugh from charging to PB

Why would they do this. D:

It sounds so much less intense... D:

Probably to make their fanservicy scratch card voices more accurate.

[Zenobia]

The only time I cared about sound was when they moved my laugh from charging to PB

^This my characters voice is louder than my weapon sounds LMFAO~.

[Syklo]

one thing about partisans not being fun.

does anyone really hate the sound work they did on the partisan photon arts? I think its why I dont like them.

the photon art sound effects dont sound weighty or dangerous, like a spear should sound(imo). it all makes a "Thwap! thwap!" sound, like youre swinging a tree branch.

I know people dont think about this kind of stuff but i think subconsciously you do ^^
Honestly, I love the SFX when using trick rave.

[Reia]

Gunners for the following 8 years since PSU :3 Have fun!

http://i50.tinypic.com/33bk9yv.png

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrs7mZCVi9o

Nah but serious, all classes have this "Spam optimal PA to win". Maybe you should try a more strategic and fun game? Perhaps write Sakai a letter how not FUN this game is and why you think so!

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I'm using that EX voice with the laugh, all is good now

I need to get it for my cast now though

[SociableTyrannosaur]

no obvious changes? wat?

I think it was pretty clear that I said I played it for less than an hour.

[Zenobia]

I personally like slide end has a nice sound to it once executed dunno about you all but yeah person opinions flying everywhere I just hope this stays civil.

[Zenobia]

I'm using that EX voice with the laugh, all is good now

I need to get it for my cast now though

The first time I used that voice I fell in love.....

[SociableTyrannosaur]

I personally like slide end has a nice sound to it once executed dunno about you all but yeah person opinions flying everywhere I just hope this stays civil.

I'm mushing anyone who argues with me.

[Zenobia]

I'm mushing anyone who argues with me.

Touche~.

[Syklo]

I'm using that EX voice with the laugh, all is good now

I need to get it for my cast now though
The one where you make a laugh every 3 or so attacks?

I love that one, especially at pitch -4.

.....I have a thing for semi-deep voiced females ;)

[emily05]

I think it was pretty clear that I said I played it for less than an hour.

why even bother to comment that there was no changes then >_>? lol

Im curious about the game, I might get it -- import only?

[blace]

why even bother to comment that there was no changes then >_>? lol

Im curious about the game, I might get it -- import only?
Import or download from JP PSN with a JP PSN ID.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

why even bother to comment that there was no changes then >_>? lol

Im curious about the game, I might see if its at gamestop tomorrow

Go read my post again, I swear you have a learning disability.

I said I probably should have given it more time because it seems like everyone really liked it.


It was an endorsement with a caution that the changes might not be clear right off the bat.

You and TC need to learn to read.

[emily05]

Go read my post again, I swear you have a learning disability.

;p actually I do

feel good about yourself tough guy?:-)

[Syklo]

;p actually I do

feel good about yourself tough guy?:-)
Please don't use provocative attitudes on PSO-W.......

.........OR I'll SMASH YOU INTO A PULP!*

*- No i'm too weak; i'll get someone else to do it.

[ShadowDragon28]

I must be playing a alternate universe version of PSO2 because melee is very fun IMO. I love playing Fi/Hu, Fi/RA using double sabers and daggers is damn fun to me.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

;p actually I do

feel good about yourself tough guy?:-)

Yeah actually I do.

Shows I can identify the source of a problem.

[Syklo]

I must be playing a alternate universe version of PSO2 because melee is very fun IMO. I love playing Fi/Hu, Fi/RA using double sabers and daggers is damn fun to me.
No it's just you.

And me - I also love melee :3

It just needs more agility/speedy movement sets.

[Zenobia]

Please don't use provocative attitudes on PSO-W.......

.........OR I'll SMASH YOU INTO A PULP!*

*- No i'm too weak; i'll get someone else to do it.

You needed help?

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i45.tinypic.com/ej90yp.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[emily05]

Please don't use provocative attitudes on PSO-W.......

.........OR I'll SMASH YOU INTO A PULP!*

*- No i'm too weak; i'll get someone else to do it.

meh. I just dont like bullies. especially when it comes to making fun of my disabilities, calling me stupid, etc. usually I don't get provoked so easily.:( but that stuff just hurts my feelings

[Syklo]

You needed help?

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i45.tinypic.com/ej90yp.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
YEAH! THAT'S HOW I PLAY MELEE!

Grab an enemy...........and bash another enemy with it! Works brilliantly in vindictus.
In pso2, not so much, because lol not invincible during grabs OR uncancellable.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

You needed help?

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i45.tinypic.com/ej90yp.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

This...needs to be in my sig.

[jooozek]

everything in this game is boring
feels like im playing elotto with quick time events

[Zenobia]

This...needs to be in my sig.

By all means go for it~.

[emily05]

I think the game has good core mechanics but it seems like whoever developed it , didnt build on them

its like a gem covered in 50 feet of cow manure

[Zenobia]

Wish they would have made the sword swing just like PSP2i oh man the sick ass damage I could get off then....

[yoshiblue]

I'm surprised you can launch yourself everywhere with wire lances. Pull yourself closer or latch onto the walls to move quicker.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

WL should get a spider-man web zip PA?

[Syklo]

everything in this game is boring
feels like im playing elotto with quick time events
Actually, I'd love to see Quick time events incorporated into some boss fights (Think KH2's "reaction" command)

[emily05]

Actually, I'd love to see Quick time events incorporated into some boss fights (Think KH2's "reaction" command)

^^;^^;^^;^^;

no thank you to QTEs, maybe they should make some cool, fast, dangerous bosses though?

[ShadowDragon28]

the waaaambulance is strong in this thread. smh

[Zenobia]

Actually, I'd love to see Quick time events incorporated into some boss fights (Think KH2's "reaction" command)

We need a quicktime event like these 2...

Skip to 5:25 of this video to see what im talkign about...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88VN5iQW5IQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88VN5iQW5IQ


I wanna do this to rockbear


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHA7REPFlQs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHA7REPFlQs

[Syklo]

We need a quicktime event like these 2...

Skip to 5:25 of this video to see what im talkign about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88VN5iQW5IQ


I wanna do this to rockbear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHA7REPFlQs
FUCKING YES

WE MUST HAVE THESE

[blace]

That's the thing, Sega published this game, but they're not Platinum Games.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

The one where you make a laugh every 3 or so attacks?

I love that one, especially at pitch -4.

.....I have a thing for semi-deep voiced females ;)
I better watch out then
*-3 voice*

[Syklo]

I better watch out then
*-3 voice*
Close enough.

[Zenobia]

Close enough.

Heh and to think I always keep my Tomboy voices at *-3* interesting.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

We need a quicktime event like these 2...

Skip to 5:25 of this video to see what im talkign about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88VN5iQW5IQ


I wanna do this to rockbear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHA7REPFlQs

I'd rather do that to a Zesh

[Zenobia]

I'd rather do that to a Zesh

Hohoho I stand corrected and I AGREE Zeshy intended yes pls.

[Alisha]

Go read my post again, I swear you have a learning disability.

I said I probably should have given it more time because it seems like everyone really liked it.


It was an endorsement with a caution that the changes might not be clear right off the bat.

You and TC need to learn to read.

a lot of the new stuff is avaiable right off the bat...
charge shot 2's... new techs sold in shop... even at beach its un likely you didnt find sabarta.

fux safoie woulda been hax in this game.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Hated force in the portable games, never used techs. Also "second level of old skills" doesn't register to me as something "new". It's just more damage - something you'd hate anyway, so I'm not sure why you're advocating it. It's not a real game changer and doesn't make the game more enticing. Hold the button longer do more damage...k.

Pretty sure I said I just made a new character and upped their level illegitimately (clearly to see infinity blasts) wasn't impressed with what I saw...nothing eye catchingly different. I decided it wasn't worth forcing my way through the japanese.

Anyway I don't need to defend my decisions to someone who hates using things that work.


You seem like the kind of person who would try to drive a nail with a wet noodle just cause using a hammer or even a heavy metal bar were too simple.

[UnLucky]

Melee sucks

I was just fooling around with an umbrella and did an Over End on a dragon people, killed the one guy with the windup, turned around to try to get another with the "real" part of the PA.

"Oh man, he's running away, and is pretty far by now, will it reach?"

It does reach, actually.

But it hit his little dinky shield.

On the opposite side of him.

*ting* 0 damage

"Wow I totally forgot about things doing that lmao melee"

[Syklo]

Melee sucks

I was just fooling around with an umbrella and did an Over End on a dragon people, killed the one guy with the windup, turned around to try to get another with the "real" part of the PA.

"Oh man, he's running away, and is pretty far by now, will it reach?"

It does reach, actually.

But it hit his little dinky shield.

On the opposite side of him.

*ting* 0 damage

"Wow I totally forgot about things doing that lmao melee"
Seriously shields should be breakables...
At least in a special way.

[UnLucky]

or not block attacks that pierce all the way through the mob first

[Zenobia]

or not block attacks that pierce all the way through the mob first

Ever heard of iron howling a Gu Wanda really cool should try it ofc not in the front of him works really nice on Gilnas cept for when he breaks apart and you want the core now we use daggers for those.

Im surprised ppl don't really use all there weps are we really dedicating ourselves to only ONE for everything?

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Iron Howling? You mean Quake Howling to stagger?

[jooozek]

Im surprised ppl don't really use all there weps are we really dedicating ourselves to only ONE for everything?

are you funding all those weapons and grinding them to +10?

[Zenobia]

are you funding all those weapons and grinding them to +10?

I meant using one wep to kill everything such as using sword through a whole run or some such and I do have some 10*'s but 10* have nothing to do with the shield tingy as there is always a weapon to overcome it.


@Sociable you will have to excuse me im stuck on Elsword and find Iron howling to be stuck with me too...and yes it stuns or stagger w/e you wanna call it.


http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-2ABmBKv4w

[Syklo]

are you funding all those weapons and grinding them to +10?
I would be if I actually GET a 10* for those types.

[Alisha]

I meant using one wep to kill everything such as using sword through a whole run or some such.


@Sociable you will have to excuse me im stuck on Elsword and find Iron howling to be stuck with me too...and yes it stuns or stagger w/e you wanna call it.


http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-2ABmBKv4w

thats precisely what i do. would you play a monk in a FF game and try to use swords and fists?


Hated force in the portable games, never used techs. Also "second level of old skills" doesn't register to me as something "new". It's just more damage - something you'd hate anyway, so I'm not sure why you're advocating it. It's not a real game changer and doesn't make the game more enticing. Hold the button longer do more damage...k.

Pretty sure I said I just made a new character and upped their level illegitimately (clearly to see infinity blasts) wasn't impressed with what I saw...nothing eye catchingly different. I decided it wasn't worth forcing my way through the japanese.

Anyway I don't need to defend my decisions to someone who hates using things that work.


You seem like the kind of person who would try to drive a nail with a wet noodle just cause using a hammer or even a heavy metal bar were too simple.

this post makes it sound like you never even played the game

also if you think i hate things "because they work" you need to read the original post again.

i hate things because they are so damn easy a 5 year old could do it so it bores me.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

I meant using one wep to kill everything such as using sword through a whole run or some such.


@Sociable you will have to excuse me im stuck on Elsword and find Iron howling to be stuck with me too...and yes it stuns or stagger w/e you wanna call it.


http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-2ABmBKv4w

Yeah when I mained fighter that's exactly what I did, but then I got additional bullet on my Gu/Ra and I actually kill lvl 60 boosted ga/gu wondas in about 3-4 seconds. 6-7 if I screw up and bounce off the shield.

That PA is busted as hell x_x.


thats precisely what i do. would you play a monk in a FF game and try to use swords and fists?



this post makes it sound like you never even played the game

also if you think i hate things "because they work" you need to read the original post again.

i hate things because they are so damn easy a 5 year old could do it so it bores me.

Whatever you say, you're the expert. Te/Fi ftw mirite?

[Zenobia]

thats precisely what i do. would you play a monk in a FF game and try to use swords and fist.

Dunno if agreeing or disagreeing,but also this isn't FF it's Phantasy Star I use all my weps to overcome the situation simply using just one won't cut it as there is always a weapon to overcome any foe.

When it comes down to Gu Wondas I simply use Fist and use quake howling for stun and commence le~Rampage from der.

Same goes for Gilnas you can stun them then rape em from there,but once they break apart and the core goes flying it's time for daggers.

What im saying is if SOME of us took to time not all of us ofc to use the weps and pa's given to us the game would be less stressing and more fun cause it gives a whole new type of strategy to every enemy encounter.

[Syklo]

Dunno if agreeing or disagreeing,but also this isn't FF it's Phantasy Star I use all my weps to overcome the situation simply using just one won't cut it as there is always a weapon to overcome any foe.

When it comes down to Gu Wondas I simply use Fist and use quake howling for stun and commence le~Rampage from der.

Same goes for Gilnas you can stun them then rape em from there,but once they break apart and the core goes flying it's time for daggers.

What im saying is if SOME of us took to time not all of us ofc to use the weps and pa's given to us the game would be less stressing and more fun cause it gives a whole new type of strategy to every enemy encounter.
Some people enjoy variety and versatility

Others just enjoy specialty.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Actually for speed runs in FF1, people give the monk a sword for like...80% of the game >_>


Some people enjoy variety and versatility

Others just enjoy specialty.

Don't forget others that just want to be highly efficient.

They don't care about the style nearly as much as they do about finding the best way to melt faces.

If specializing does the trick, they do that but if weapon variety is what gets the job done faster they'll take that path instead.

[Zenobia]

Some people enjoy variety and versatility

Others just enjoy specialty.

Yeah im feeling it.......im feeling it.....

[Syklo]

Actually for speed runs in FF1, people give the monk a sword for like...80% of the game >_>



Don't forget others that just want to be highly efficient.

They don't care about the style nearly as much as they do about finding the best way to melt faces.

If specializing does the trick, they do that but if weapon variety is what gets the job done faster they'll take that path instead.
Ah, that too.

[Zenobia]

Actually for speed runs in FF1, people give the monk a sword for like...80% of the game >_>



Don't forget others that just want to be highly efficient.

They don't care about the style nearly as much as they do about finding the best way to melt faces.

If specializing does the trick, they do that but if weapon variety is what gets the job done faster they'll take that path instead.

Touche well spoken~.

[Dnd]

wondas are really easy as melee, they are a joke, for example...

Wired lances? heavenly fall them until dead, from the rear. Partisans? Trick rave on the rear again, swords? Stun concido then throw some sonic arrows/melee swings and just keep it stunned from the rear.... However they should make the shields breakable, or at least more accurate hitboxing

I needed a chuckle today and seeing this thread made me laugh, so thanks. When you consider the other 4 classes are just stand as far back as possible and nuke stuff, and melee is the boring one?

[Zenobia]

Nah it's just some ppl have diff play styles is all some like to stick with one some don't,but nothing wrong with giving some helpful advice if needed after all it's up to the individual him/her self to accept he advice.

But oh well can't stop ppl from thinking what they like but it also serves as motivation for me to stay true to the HU/FI or FI/HU all in all it's my fav class.

I prefer to be the odd one out.

[Syklo]

Nah it's just some ppl have diff play styles is all some like to stick with one some don't,but nothing wrong with giving some helpful advice if needed after all it's up to the individual him/her self to accept he advice.

But oh well can't stop ppl from thinking what they like but it also serves as motivation for me to stay true to the HU/FI or FI/HU all in all it's my fav class.

I prefer to be the odd one out.
then play on ship 5 or something

[Zenobia]

then play on ship 5 or something

Then come with me baby<3

[SociableTyrannosaur]

That sentence alone was too much excitement for Syklo, Zen.

[Syklo]

Then come with me baby<3
But then you won't be the odd one out anymore.

I JUST WANT THE BEST FROM YOU

[Zenobia]

But then you won't be the odd one out anymore.

I JUST WANT THE BEST FROM YOU

True true then send me your love ill be the happiest Otenba ever after that~<3

[SociableTyrannosaur]

I'm assuming he wants "what's best for you".


Cause if he wants the best from you...this thread just got a whole lot hotter.

[Alisha]

wondas are really easy as melee, they are a joke, for example...

Wired lances? heavenly fall them until dead, from the rear. Partisans? Trick rave on the rear again, swords? Stun concido then throw some sonic arrows/melee swings and just keep it stunned from the rear.... However they should make the shields breakable, or at least more accurate hitboxing

I needed a chuckle today and seeing this thread made me laugh, so thanks. When you consider the other 4 classes are just stand as far back as possible and nuke stuff, and melee is the boring one?

no no no. its not melee thats boring its the execution

[Syklo]

True true then send me your love ill be the happiest Otenba ever after that~<3
Love&otenbaって何?

[Zenobia]

I see...I see.

http://i47.tinypic.com/a3m2qw.jpg

[SociableTyrannosaur]

That's it!

I'm going to bed!

[Syklo]

Oh god

The meaning of melee just escalated to a whole new level

[SociableTyrannosaur]

QUICK! ENGAGE HER IN CQC!

[Zenobia]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[Syklo]

CRITICAL HIT ON THE WEAKPOINT!
Btw is it a coincidence that CQC sounds like Secrecy?

oh boy.

[Pirrip]

Melee is only boring if you don't play Techer. ^_~

[SociableTyrannosaur]

ENEMY: BEAST WITH TWO BACKS APPEARS!

[Syklo]

Melee is only boring if you don't play Techer. ^_~
Cuz techer's always get the BONUS EXPLOSION!

[Zenobia]

DAT IMPACT!

[Syklo]

YA-

POISON EFFECT.

[Zenobia]

I prefer DOT anyday I actually need to get poison on my weps sometime around....

[~Aya~]

Partisan + Assbuster + Slide End = insta fun melee!

[Railkune]

Double Sabers. And that's really all there is to say on the matter.

[~Aya~]

Double Sabers. And that's really all there is to say on the matter.

Double-Wabers are indeed fun.

[Cyclon]

You seem like the kind of person who would try to drive a nail with a wet noodle just cause using a hammer or even a heavy metal bar were too simple.
That's me. That's precisely, exactly me, plus he said it wasn't him so that's definitely me.
And I'll defend it people! Yeaaah it's Sega's fault blablabla well excuse me who equipped these three deadly archers in the end uh?? Waiting for the game to get balanced uh? Well in the meantime I'm having more fun than you, as is demonstrated with these lovely topics of complaints that I never take part in.

So I win.

Otherwise.
Melee needs balancing/is still fun to me/I accept your opinion but you're wrong/etc.

Mini-necropost because I was curious to see if anybody cared.

[Zenobia]

That's me. That's precisely, exactly me, plus he said it wasn't him so that's definitely me.
And I'll defend it people! Yeaaah it's Sega's fault blablabla well excuse me who equipped these three deadly archers in the end uh?? Waiting for the game to get balanced uh? Well in the meantime I'm having more fun than you, as is demonstrated with these lovely topics of complaints that I never take part in.

So I win.

Otherwise.
Melee needs balancing/is still fun to me/I accept your opinion but you're wrong/etc.

Mini-necropost because I was curious to see if anybody cared.

Dun worry Cylon the problem is THEY NO MELEE RIGHT D<

[Jakosifer]

On the real, if you find the melee in this game to not be engaging, you should just not play until the new weapons come out then try those out. If you're playin for the nakama, ain't nothing you can do but suffer.

[Skyly HUmar]

Ever try using 3 different PAs and making them combo into each other? From the sounds of it you're a 3x sonic arrow and DA kind of guy, and thats all fine and good, but its boring as all hell. To me thats barely a step down from fo.

EDIT: didnt read past pist 1 so yeah.

[Dextro]

Ever try using 3 different PAs and making them combo into each other? From the sounds of it you're a 3x sonic arrow and DA kind of guy, and thats all fine and good, but its boring as all hell. To me thats barely a step down from fo.

EDIT: didnt read past pist 1 so yeah.

http://i.qkme.me/3qpw0u.jpg

[Zenobia]

http://i.qkme.me/3qpw0u.jpg

GOOD LUCK

Loved this freaking movie to death Taken was the shit.

[Skyly HUmar]

http://i.qkme.me/3qpw0u.jpg

Ill be waiting :)

[Dextro]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11c21c91dd201ac9b8f6826fc27feaa6/tumblr_mkacrnKudT1qbqtleo1_500.gif
Haters gon' hate coz us FOs be stylin on ya

[Skyly HUmar]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11c21c91dd201ac9b8f6826fc27feaa6/tumblr_mkacrnKudT1qbqtleo1_500.gif
Haters gon' hate coz us FOs be stylin on ya

Thats not what i was getting at lol. I mean how more or less fos use 1 tech at all times, and after the zonde nerf its going to be depending on the area, doing the same thing over and over is why i stay away from the class, i know it will bore me like it did before.

And lol i just noticed his cane.

[SakoHaruo]

melee is boring? I don't think Hu/Fi is boring at all. I think the bosses in this game are boring to fight as a Hu/Fi tho. I wish Sega would add more melee bosses like Hunar. Hunar 1v1 with Hu/Fi class is HYPE, feels like the game is moving much much faster. I sometimes forget I'm playing PSO and try some DMCish stuff during the battle. And yes, Hunar is my husbando >.>


Also, Banshee/Banther was only fun when I wasn't OP.

[gigawuts]

melee is limited by mobility, mediocre pa selection on many weapons, and pretty funny lack of proper balancing for flinch etc.

only bad or unimaginative fo's use only one tech

[Dextro]

The only thing I've found fun lately is soloing darker's den, nothing else really puts any pressure on you :/

[Railkune]

Double-Wabers are indeed fun.

I'm glad we are on the same page.

Honestly though, I haven't been bored with my FI/HU - HU/FI. Guess it's just preference.

[Skyly HUmar]

melee is limited by mobility, mediocre pa selection on many weapons, and pretty funny lack of proper balancing for flinch etc.

only bad or unimaginative fo's use only one tech

idk if thats sarcasm but either way, welcome to 99% of the fo class, tbh dex is the only fo ive ever played with recently that uses anything other than zonde, so other than him i can say from experience that every fo only uses 1 tech most of the time.

[gigawuts]

No, not every, just bad and unimaginative ones.

It really depends on the situation though. The way you're describing it is that they don't even use AOE techs on multiple enemies. If those are the kinds of FO's you play with then the FO's you play with are fucking idiots.

[Bellion]

Those FOs must have trouble killing Garongo with only using 1 Tech...

[Zenobia]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11c21c91dd201ac9b8f6826fc27feaa6/tumblr_mkacrnKudT1qbqtleo1_500.gif
Haters gon' hate coz us FOs be stylin on ya

Boy know he scurred to get up front and personal quit frontin and hiding behind his Card captor Sakura wand~

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zf22dz.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/qzlrh4.jpg

[Skyly HUmar]

Well lets just say theres a reason why i think the way i do. Granted in mpas i see them do zan, rafoi, gigrantz and a couple others, but in aq its all zonde.

[BlankM]

no no no. its not melee thats boring its the execution

Execution you say? Why don't you try doing some stuff like this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk5dry4Oo68

Have fun with jp latency though.

[Dextro]

Boy know he scurred to get up front and personal quit frontin and hiding behind his Card captor Sakura wand~
http://i47.tinypic.com/qzlrh4.jpg

Slow only because you have to chase me down to hit me! :-P

That's silly thinking Giga, why use an AoE spell when you can just zondeel and hit everything with your single target spell! zonde4lyfe :lightning:

But on a serious note, I definitely found GU/RA before the Elder Rebellion/IF update to be the most fun class.

[Zenobia]

melee is boring? I don't think Hu/Fi is boring at all. I think the bosses in this game are boring to fight as a Hu/Fi tho. I wish Sega would add more melee bosses like Hunar. Hunar 1v1 with Hu/Fi class is HYPE, feels like the game is moving much much faster. I sometimes forget I'm playing PSO and try some DMCish stuff during the battle. And yes, Hunar is my husbando >.>


Also, Banshee/Banther was only fun when I wasn't OP.

BS Me and Him have a strict Engagement going bettah back off mah man he has mah sword and he wants mah babehs and until I see a sword he gets none....but we are still working things out soo yeah..back off you D<!

[~Aya~]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11c21c91dd201ac9b8f6826fc27feaa6/tumblr_mkacrnKudT1qbqtleo1_500.gif
Haters gon' hate coz us FOs be stylin on ya


Lmao this thread is full of win...

[gigawuts]

Slow only because you have to chase me down to hit me! :-P

That's silly thinking Giga, why use an AoE spell when you can just zondeel and hit everything with your single target spell! zonde4lyfe :lightning:

But on a serious note, I definitely found GU/RA before the Elder Rebellion/IF update to be the most fun class.

Zondeel is an AOE tech. You don't even need to chain it (although that will often get better results), you just need to use it to vacuum enemies and you're still doing more than just zonde spam.

I really hope skyly humar isn't discrediting forces as a whole because some are idiots. Next we'll be saying education is worthless because dropouts are dumb.

[Zenobia]

Slow only because you have to chase me down to hit me! :-P

That's silly thinking Giga, why use an AoE spell when you can just zondeel and hit everything with your single target spell! zonde4lyfe :lightning:

But on a serious note, I definitely found GU/RA before the Elder Rebellion/IF update to be the most fun class.

Damn you Dextro curse you from the bowels of helll~

BUT I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!

http://i45.tinypic.com/ej90yp.jpg

[The Walrus]

Done.

[jooozek]

i know right that guy who is fully specced into lightning branch hes using zonde(el) only because hes stupid!!! xDDDDD

[Skyly HUmar]

Zondeel is an AOE tech. You don't even need to chain it (although that will often get better results), you just need to use it to vacuum enemies and you're still doing more than just zonde spam.

I really hope skyly humar isn't discrediting forces as a whole because some are idiots. Next we'll be saying education is worthless because dropouts are dumb.

Well if i saw more people being "creative" i wouldnt be stuck thinking that all they do is 1 tech spam every time i play with them.

[SakoHaruo]

BS Me and Him have a strict Engagement going bettah back off mah man he has mah sword and he wants mah babehs and until I see a sword he gets none....but we are still working things out soo yeah..back off you D<!

Such foolishness!:rant: You were too slow, he already put a ring on it. :-P

I must say last night was the best night of my life! the way he grabs me with those big manly hands and launch me into the air was so.... scoops! yeah you jelly. xD

[Zenobia]

Such foolishness!:rant: You were too slow, he already put a ring on it. :-P

I must say last night was the best night of my life! the way he grabs me with those big manly hands and launch me into the air was so.... scoops! yeah you jelly. xD

You having dreams....or movies? Pick one girleh besides you aint fit to ride dat beast no indeed no! Oh yeah btw Hunar dosen't like being tied down to just one he told me so and I respect that which is why you can have love and all its benefits without being married....now....

http://i46.tinypic.com/316vy81.jpg

[Z-0]

Well if i saw more people being "creative" i wouldnt be stuck thinking that all they do is 1 tech spam every time i play with them.
let me tell you something mister skyly humar

the reason we all spam 1 technique most of the time is (get this): it's the most efficient thing to do most of the time.

it's the same as playing as a hunter or fighter, did you know that? as a fighter/hunter, all you really need is assault buster to kill mobs, and deadly archer to kill bosses. sonic arrow has been outclassed in most situations (not joking). it's not really more original than playing as a force spamming zonde. over end has its OCCASIONAL uses over these, but it's rare.

the most varied class is actually ranger by far. as ranger you use divine launcher, cluster bullet, rodeo drive, additional bullet, sneak shooter, homing emission, thrillsplosion and aiming shot. if you take gunner, you also add elder rebellion and satellite aim onto that, and boom, you are being "creative" while being the most efficient. gunner is weak though compared to ranger so lol.

[Alisha]

let me tell you something mister skyly humar

the reason we all spam 1 technique most of the time is (get this): it's the most efficient thing to do most of the time.

it's the same as playing as a hunter or fighter, did you know that? as a fighter/hunter, all you really need is assault buster to kill mobs, and deadly archer to kill bosses. sonic arrow has been outclassed in most situations (not joking). it's not really more original than playing as a force spamming zonde. over end has its OCCASIONAL uses over these, but it's rare.

the most varied class is actually ranger by far. as ranger you use divine launcher, cluster bullet, rodeo drive, additional bullet, sneak shooter, homing emission, thrillsplosion and aiming shot. if you take gunner, you also add elder rebellion and satellite aim onto that, and boom, you are being "creative" while being the most efficient. gunner is weak though compared to ranger so lol.

then a cooldown should be placed on all pa's. of course that wont solve my problem. i need something to think about besides swing at air+ja into assault buster. the reason i find te/fi enjoyable is because i have to my gear up and attempt to SE mobs before attacking.

[Kilich]

As a Ra, you apply WB, instantly use all of your PP on sneak shooter, and then walk around, waiting for PP to regen.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

Have fun killing a boss

[Z-0]

If you really play Ranger like that, you're doing it wrong.

[The Walrus]

then a cooldown should be placed on all pa's. of course that wont solve my problem. i need something to think about besides swing at air+ja into assault buster. the reason i find te/fi enjoyable is because i have to my gear up and attempt to SE mobs before attacking.

I just spam techs. Still works D:

[Cyclon]

let me tell you something mister skyly humar

the reason we all spam 1 technique most of the time is (get this): it's the most efficient thing to do most of the time.
Yes, indeed, okay, this is fairly obvious, and if your desire for efficiency is strong enough that you can put up with the sheer amount of monotony of this way of playing that's perfectly fine.

However, if it doesn't, and you're bored, well maybe you should think about using other tools, being creative, etc. Because the game allows that. Just try and identify what's fun for you instead of just saying"maaan, spamming deadly archer is boooooring"

Yes, it's Sega's fault if things are this way, and apparently most japanese players don't give a bottle about balance(or Sega just ignore them for some reason), well that's a shame, but there's not much we can do. Game is what it is. Find your fun where you can or stop.

Wait, that was harsh. Please?

Also while this post is answering yours, you're not particularly targeted by it.

Edit: Aaand we've earned a moved stamp ladies and gentlemen.
Also stop fricking IGNORING ME.
Please.

[Kondibon]

People keep bringing up what's more efficient, but unless you're doing speed runs or something what's wrong with mixing things up for the sake of having fun?

[jooozek]

what if doing stuff at snailpace causes you grief?
fun + grief = no fun

[Kilich]

Why do it at snail pace?

[gigawuts]

A cooldown won't fix anything. It will just shift the bar downwards. The best PA's will still be the best PA's and they'll still be what get spammed the most. End of story.

A REAL rebalancing of PA's will. And no, that does not mean 50% higher damage multipliers for fake capture and scissor edge at level 16+.

Wired lances have probably the most balanced selection of PA's - disregarding heavenly fall and bind through having their damage canceled when the grapple target dies, which is blatantly a bug and not intended. Each PA has a use, is actually good at it, and is not strictly outperformed by another WL PA. Some are more versatile than others, and some could use some slight tweaking, but by and large WL PA's are brilliantly balanced between utility, range, PP cost, and damage.

Other weapons? Not so much.

[UnLucky]

Yeah sorry if I use Zonde on solitary enemies weak to lightning, Zondeel against groups of lightning-weak mobs, and Sazonde on large targets weak to lightning.

WOW how unoriginal spamming Zonde on everything

[~Aya~]

Assault Buster / Slide End / That other partisan PA are once again like the most awesome PAs ever. I like how quick and powerful Assbuster is and how wide of a range that Slide end has as well as power. I never see anyone using any of these.. ever.. I didn't even know they existed until *drumroll* Jaqlou. Thank u arigatou!!! Ｏ(≧∇≦)Ｏ

[Skyly HUmar]

let me tell you something mister skyly humar

the reason we all spam 1 technique most of the time is (get this): it's the most efficient thing to do most of the time.

.

This is what im getting at, and when i play the class myself all i find myself doing is spamming 1 thing. With hunter on the other hand i find myself doing alot of things that are also very effective, thats something i cant feel as a force. I mean sure, twister fall and rising edge arnt as great as sonic arrow against a mob, but they have their shine. As a force right now (or at least till the 10th) it just feels like 1 thing outshines every other thing by a very large margin. Hence why im telling the op : if you are bored with what you are doing, try other PAs, because with melee classes your preformance wont drop by too much and it will be a good change of pace.

Thats how i see it, and yes yes psow our opinion is right or gtfo.

EDIT: forgot that last bit

[UnLucky]

Foie can take out lines of enemies faster from a distance than Zonde can individually. Even bolt-weak enemies.

Sazonde and Grants are better for pesky hitboxes like on Zesh or the Kooks and Cychos

And if you have a pure flame tree in Nab there is no reason not to use every flame tech.

[Skyly HUmar]

point taken, ill remember that next time i see someone locking on to an enemy and using zonde.