How does it look this good?

[ignika98]

I saw this image (http://www.pso2-uploader.info/uploda/src/up48650.jpg) on pso2-uploader and I'm wondering how I can make my game look like this.

[zegun~kun]

this thread: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205228

[SociableTyrannosaur]

That's going to depend largely on your video cards.


Yeah, I said cards.

[Daemyn]

Ambient occlusion Forced via nvidia inspector settings.

You can also see how a lot of times it hates fog in that picture.

[Chik'Tikka]

yeah... i put those settings on and i get like 4 frames per sec, but i still do it for contests and vanity shots+^_^+ just make sure you keep an eye on temps if your machine isn't good enough to actually have good FPS with SGSSAA and AO

[SPOILER-BOX]https://i.minus.com/iIcvafAAsfqP5.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[ignika98]

Ambient occlusion Forced via nvidia inspector settings.

You can also see how a lot of times it hates fog in that picture.

Is there an AMD equivalent?

[Chik'Tikka]

Is there an AMD equivalent?

Radeon Pro recently got updated (by recent i mean in the last 2 years) and may now have similar functions+^_^+ though i don't know if the same bits work the same way for AMD hardware and drivers, at the least you should be able to get good AA+^_^+

EDIT; guess it has AO+^_^+
http://www.radeonpro.info/

[UnLucky]

Cool blur and smoothing that loses detail and runs like shit

[Rayden]

Yeah, it looks pretty blurry.

[Sizustar]

Is there an AMD equivalent?

Radeon Pro.
The AO isn't as clean as Nvidia's, but you get access to SweetFX for better Bloom and HDR effect.

[Z-0]

PSO2: Clay Edition.

That's all I can think of when I see images that look like that.

[TaigaUC]

That's some painfully excessive SSAO.

Edit:
Apparently it looks significantly different on other people's computers. I have two different monitors and on both monitors the contrast between the AO shadows and the rest of the image is really high. The AO is so heavy that I can use Photoshop to brighten the entire image and only the shadows still stay black.

Edit2:
Bonus link for entertainment purposes: http://backslashn.com/post/37712343299/this-is-not-how-ambient-occlusion-works
Technical link: http://nothings.org/gamedev/ssao/

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I must be the only person who prefers PSO2 without those adjustments

[Lumpen Thingy]

anyone else care to show me how to get the settings in the screen shot? lol

[Vashyron]

Does remind me of ENB stuff.... in the way of where you see this stuff making "neat looking" screenshots but you try to actually play with the same settings and it just looks "horrible" in motion.

..That said, not impossible to find settings that "improve" the defaults while playing.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

it's in the SGSSAA thread. do that and force AO

[Sizustar]

anyone else care to show me how to get the settings in the screen shot? lol

What's your GPU?
If Nvidia, Nvidia inspector
If AMD, use RadeonPro

[UnLucky]

Man, I wish I could get my PSO2 to look as high def as that 403 Forbidden error too~

Be careful what you wish for!!

[Zyrusticae]

For the record, this is what the game should look like with proper AO:

[spoiler-box]https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pgen6Pm6guzQaCUtWeNDoKPX3e9NZwwpdCKnfEzTuPBh-6k0Z3b7z-Klj-ysVSMlYYpu2I6S0RUE/pso20130417_222218_007.jpg?psid=1
https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1p3ukmxVWi27YagUS7qf_iIS2342YKt96UbgvGKjDegFNffpJ A3c8vgmkNU_JwNBEf_N715a3UncI/pso20130417_222251_009.jpg?psid=1
https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pgCXFXAaOeZusKdc6tAVItogyppkbvukphLgxi48myx76Act _a8qOuO2m3euETe9gfk67tmey7Fw/pso20130417_221507_000.jpg?psid=1
https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pcdpzyb720uv0axNRXrIsTCynHBFDPyog-mkpjKuMVLHCgPf_yGQJ-vyCYyo_lZSjlrvSxWln5Rs/pso20130417_222123_001.jpg?psid=1
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[SociableTyrannosaur]

did you find a new AO bit, Zyru or is that one of your "not much longer before GG catches on" shots?

[Zyrusticae]

I switched to using the Dead Space bits, since it has much less trouble with hair seams than the Mirror's Edge bits (though it still has trouble, mostly in the lobby and with specific outfits for some impossible-to-discern reason).

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Ah, nice. I'll give those a try then.

[UnLucky]

god those shadows look horrible

is that haloing or whatever's going on in that second pic in the game normally?

[Zyrusticae]

The haloing is purely a side-effect of poorly tuned AO, which should tell you all you need to know about how much of a fucking pain in the ass it is to try to find good AO bits for a game that has none.

It still looks far better than no AO at all, as far as I'm concerned, so I stick with it. Can't stand the flatness of the default lighting.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Yeah I switched it over to the deadspace bits. Definitely an improvement even on quality.

Finally tried the 8xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA. Overall performance is much better now. Interesting how quirky this game is.

[Lostbob117]

For the record, this is what the game should look like with proper AO:

[spoiler-box]https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pgen6Pm6guzQaCUtWeNDoKPX3e9NZwwpdCKnfEzTuPBh-6k0Z3b7z-Klj-ysVSMlYYpu2I6S0RUE/pso20130417_222218_007.jpg?psid=1
https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1p3ukmxVWi27YagUS7qf_iIS2342YKt96UbgvGKjDegFNffpJ A3c8vgmkNU_JwNBEf_N715a3UncI/pso20130417_222251_009.jpg?psid=1
https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pgCXFXAaOeZusKdc6tAVItogyppkbvukphLgxi48myx76Act _a8qOuO2m3euETe9gfk67tmey7Fw/pso20130417_221507_000.jpg?psid=1
https://ucxrag.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pcdpzyb720uv0axNRXrIsTCynHBFDPyog-mkpjKuMVLHCgPf_yGQJ-vyCYyo_lZSjlrvSxWln5Rs/pso20130417_222123_001.jpg?psid=1
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Tip: Having Shadows off look better then having them on Quality 2, or put them on Quality 5.

If they're on Quality 5 then man... Your res must be low. ;A;

To OP: I don't really think it looks any better.

[Zyrusticae]

Tip: Having Shadows off look better then having them on Quality 2, or put them on Quality 5.

If they're on Quality 5 then man... Your res must be low. ;A;

Protip: Don't speak of things you are completely ignorant of.

This is absolutely everything in-game maxed, plus 4x SGSSAA, plus high quality driver-forced ambient occlusion, at 1920x1080 resolution.

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Zyru, lostbob is clearly trolling or needs his eyes checked.

[UnLucky]

we will never have good shadows and dynamic lighting

which PC games have had ten years ago

all because consoles chug at 8 FPS trying to do it

[Sizustar]

http://www.pso2-uploader.info/uploda/src/up47001.jpg

[ShinMaruku]

Or he's a cross eyed troll.

[ignika98]

I tried radeonpro and it doesn't work, anyone know where i can find some sort of a guide?

[Arrow]

http://www.pso2-uploader.info/uploda/src/up47001.jpg

That looks like professional-grade CGI...
.....is it?
Please just tell me it's a dream so I don't have to hunt down how-to guides on how to do this magic.

edit: wait...is this like the alpha thing or something? I don't recognize the location...

[Lostbob117]

Protip: Don't speak of things you are completely ignorant of.

This is absolutely everything in-game maxed, plus 4x SGSSAA, plus high quality driver-forced ambient occlusion, at 1920x1080 resolution.

Then why does your tree shadows look like complete blocks?

[Zyrusticae]

That looks like professional-grade CGI...
.....is it?
Please just tell me it's a dream so I don't have to hunt down how-to guides on how to do this magic.

edit: wait...is this like the alpha thing or something? I don't recognize the location...
It's in the team room.

And yeah, my game pretty much looks a lot like that.
https://cxvqtw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pPWgsZoKSa3z9t7GZIk68xVGD_EClOWCdnHZgua57aS6sJIT bPm7O4kK7AFwAqBDtuEn2wLOpXwU/pso20130417_141537_001.jpg?psid=1
https://cxvqtw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1poJB8qkqrRdPEOIMC3HVGAY15LC0W_YFjz42QUHoPwJo1NU4 OJJlxd9EaCNnuO0-rw_Dxxge0wW8/pso20130420_174303_020.jpg?psid=1
https://cxvqtw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ptByJo_wFG4X3M8RWWy-dbK3uKDT_ixMWZVoisuioXnsoEc20D0Ct-ZFBsRe2Hn801PFI1On34rc/pso20130420_174728_023.jpg?psid=1

[Arrow]

It's in the team room.

And yeah, my game pretty much looks a lot like that.
[Spoiler-box]https://cxvqtw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pPWgsZoKSa3z9t7GZIk68xVGD_EClOWCdnHZgua57aS6sJIT bPm7O4kK7AFwAqBDtuEn2wLOpXwU/pso20130417_141537_001.jpg?psid=1
https://cxvqtw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1poJB8qkqrRdPEOIMC3HVGAY15LC0W_YFjz42QUHoPwJo1NU4 OJJlxd9EaCNnuO0-rw_Dxxge0wW8/pso20130420_174303_020.jpg?psid=1
https://cxvqtw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ptByJo_wFG4X3M8RWWy-dbK3uKDT_ixMWZVoisuioXnsoEc20D0Ct-ZFBsRe2Hn801PFI1On34rc/pso20130420_174728_023.jpg?psid=1[/spoiler-box]

......great now I have to dig up all the guides on how to do this just to see if my computer can handle this...
IT'S ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE! (T .T)

[Cyron Tanryoku]

You're all really insulting the CGIs if you think that's anywhere near close

[Arrow]

You're all really insulting the CGIs if you think that's anywhere near close

<--- Avid Nintendo gamer (who has not seen anything else beyond the NES, Gamecube, and Wii).
'Nuff said.

[Spoiler-box] Also I'm just impressed that CGI-esque quality can be maintained for actual gameplay...'cause I'm used to things like Mario Sunshine and Metroid: Other M where the CGI is grand and gameplay graphics are lesser. [/Spoiler-Box]

[SociableTyrannosaur]

......great now I have to dig up all the guides on how to do this just to see if my computer can handle this...
IT'S ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE! (T .T)

Probably not >_>. Forcing the better visuals in this game requires some pretty beefy tech.

I'll post some screens of Myria later. On a $500 card I still can't get it perfect, but it looks pretty good IMO.

[Arrow]

Probably not >_>. Forcing the better visuals in this game requires some pretty beefy tech.

I'll post some screens of Myria later. On a $500 card I still can't get it perfect, but it looks pretty good IMO.

yeah, I don't think my machine can handle it, purely cause the benchmark says on medium quality I get a steady 30-some fps...

[ShinMaruku]

If there is one thing that can be given to sega as a positive this game scales reasonably well.