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Masakan
Jul 11, 2013, 07:51 PM
Hello. Names Masakan, yada yada, usual boring salutations.(I'll make a proper intro later)

I don't know how many of you read this but this article got me thinking about why PSO2 is taking so long to reach US shores.

I was looking up any info about a possible skies of arcadia HD for the PSN and I came across this.

http://www.p4rgaming.com/sega-ceo-we-cant-make-a-skies-of-arcadia-sequel-because-wed-probably-let-you-down/

For those of you who don't feel like reading, In a nutshell the article talked about the president of sega personally replying back to a japanese fan and say that they had no plans to release a skies of arcadia 2 because, basically their game division sucks and he was honestly suprised when valkyria chronicles did as well as it did.

This is pure speculation but it got me thinking, Maybe the reason it's taking so long is simply because sega doesn't want to fuck it up like they did with PSU. Now I could be COMPLETELY wrong about this. But If the CEO of a company thinks your bad I don't think they can afford to screw up this time, if they do they won't be able to publish any games outside of japan anymore.

That's just my thoughts on it. Hope it comes soon

GALEFORCE
Jul 11, 2013, 08:00 PM
That's a troll news site.

gigawuts
Jul 11, 2013, 08:01 PM
Yeah, that's what I've been saying all along. They know the JP model won't work in the west, but the probably don't know exactly what will. So they're just not doing anything.

Rekku
Jul 11, 2013, 08:03 PM
[citation needed]

Yeeaaahhhh... SEGA is too high up on that horse to ever admit those things. I can't believe it, literally.

The Walrus
Jul 11, 2013, 08:03 PM
P4Rgaming is a satire site yo

Cyron Tanryoku
Jul 11, 2013, 08:11 PM
hahah

Rosel
Jul 11, 2013, 08:20 PM
Yes, that's obviously a joke, but it has some truth to it.

PSO2 already doesn't hold up to other Phantasy Star games in my opinion, and Sega America can only make it worse.

They probably don't want to release this one to western audiences because it will only hurt the Phantasy Star franchise, and make them lose fans.

Masakan
Jul 11, 2013, 08:25 PM
Well I feel stupid.

Rosel
Jul 11, 2013, 08:30 PM
Well, Japanese companies really like to talk shit about themselves, so it wouldn't be that unusual, but they go too far here.

I've never heard of that site, but it's clearly copying sites like The Onion.

Taurus83
Jul 11, 2013, 10:23 PM
Asiasoft/SEA will fail PSO2 AND Sega of japan learn the history repeat itself again

Lumpen Thingy
Jul 11, 2013, 10:32 PM
Yes, that's obviously a joke, but it has some truth to it.

PSO2 already doesn't hold up to other Phantasy Star games in my opinion, and Sega America can only make it worse.

They probably don't want to release this one to western audiences because it will only hurt the Phantasy Star franchise, and make them lose fans.

if any game did this is was PSU and at this point the real PS fans either are playing JP PSO2 now or quit

Z-0
Jul 11, 2013, 10:37 PM
wtf is a "real fan"

The Walrus
Jul 11, 2013, 10:40 PM
if any game did this is was PSU and at this point the real PS fans either are playing JP PSO2 now or quit

Lets not start that shit now.

gigawuts
Jul 11, 2013, 10:43 PM
wtf is a "real fan"

http://www.remodelista.com/files/styles/733_0s/public/img/sub/uimg/04-2013/700_retro-table-top-fan-by-minka-aire.jpg

Enforcer MKV
Jul 11, 2013, 10:47 PM
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.remodelista.com/files/styles/733_0s/public/img/sub/uimg/04-2013/700_retro-table-top-fan-by-minka-aire.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I approve of this.

The Walrus
Jul 11, 2013, 10:51 PM
I lol'd irl

NoiseHERO
Jul 11, 2013, 10:55 PM
At first I was about to get at a Nilla...

Then I was like...

There's no pride behind being a fan of anything.... <_>

"real fan" heh, just enjoy what you like. <_<

Cyron Tanryoku
Jul 11, 2013, 11:02 PM
http://www.remodelista.com/files/styles/733_0s/public/img/sub/uimg/04-2013/700_retro-table-top-fan-by-minka-aire.jpg

haha.

ShinMaruku
Jul 11, 2013, 11:12 PM
PSO2 already doesn't hold up to other Phantasy Star games in my opinion, and Sega America can only make it worse.


Sega of America had reservations on the sega saturn. Sega of America also grew a 50 million profit unit to 1.5 billion dollar profit unit.
Sega of America had input on the Dreamcast design (The best Sega console)

So I won't just go out and say Sega of America is shit. They are hamstrung by Sega of Japan who had the presence of mind to laugh Sony out of the room and then made Sony break them. :P

Chik'Tikka
Jul 11, 2013, 11:28 PM
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.remodelista.com/files/styles/733_0s/public/img/sub/uimg/04-2013/700_retro-table-top-fan-by-minka-aire.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!

this is a real fan+^_^+
http://bevfabriccrafts.us-dc1-edit.store.yahoo.net/I/bevfabriccrafts_2158_296808073

Enforcer MKV
Jul 11, 2013, 11:33 PM
WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!

[SPOILER-BOX]this is a real fan+^_^+
http://bevfabriccrafts.us-dc1-edit.store.yahoo.net/I/bevfabriccrafts_2158_296808073[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.faceandprofile.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/objection.jpg

That appears to be a paper fan.

NoiseHERO
Jul 12, 2013, 12:01 AM
http://www.faceandprofile.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/objection.jpg

That appears to be a paper fan.

It's slave powered though.

And since slaves are made out of people.

And people are made of stars.

That means it's solar powered.

Which makes it a green fan...

Which is why it's green.

Which is the color of Envy.

Which makes it an envious fan fueled by mankind's hatred because it's slave powered.

Which is scarier than a real fan.

Which is more powerful than a "real fan."

Enforcer MKV
Jul 12, 2013, 12:06 AM
It's slave powered though.

And since slaves are made out of people.

And people are made of stars.

That means it's solar powered.

Which makes it a green fan...

Which is why it's green.

Which is the color of Envy.

Which makes it an envious fan fueled by mankind's hatred because it's slave powered.

Which is scarier than a real fan.

Which is more powerful than a "real fan."

You had fun typing this out, didn't you?

yoshiblue
Jul 12, 2013, 12:45 AM
Powerful, yet easily fatigued.

Awesome, but impractical.

NoiseHERO
Jul 12, 2013, 12:51 AM
You had fun typing this out, didn't you?

I made all that up in the time it took to press the keys.

Except for the hatred of mankind part that one took me like 30 seconds.

Enforcer MKV
Jul 12, 2013, 12:54 AM
I made all that up in the time it took to press the keys.

Except for the hatred of mankind part that one took me like 30 seconds.

So yes. Good to know. :lol:

NoiseHERO
Jul 12, 2013, 12:55 AM
So yes. Good to know. :lol:

Ch'yeah I been at da gym.

I'M FULL OF INK NOW

AIN'T NOBODY MESS WIT CJ!

AgemFrostMage
Jul 12, 2013, 09:26 AM
For it to be ready for the western release it needs these things:

1. Order levels according to boss difficulty, so forest is first, desert second, then tunnels, ruins, tundra, floating island, volcano, and sanctum in that order.

2. Guwanahda needs to have little spawns around and pop up more often.

3. Talent tree changes, all masteries are equally distance from each other so no out of reach ice mastery 2 because of filler.

4. Dudu needs to be kept, but tweak the chances. Not fail too much, but still fail enough to make 10* expensive, just less than now.

5. Limits on how big a nose can be or how small eyes can be, let Joseph stay unique looking! In west PSO everyone will have tiny eyes, big noses, and funny faces because western doesn't typically transition well into anime styles.

However, like the below video can still be done:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6A7iUUg_tA

It is near the end and funny but the western transitioned well in this cartoon but is usually more exaggerated.

6. Two wolgahdas fight in very hard and above, double the loot and both attack at the same time so much dodge at once.

That's all I can think of for now.

Tenlade
Jul 12, 2013, 10:03 AM
Yeah, that's what I've been saying all along. They know the JP model won't work in the west, but the probably don't know exactly what will. So they're just not doing anything.

Except they own Three Rings Design, which made spiral knights, the sucessful F2P MMO on Steam. They bought an entire studio who does nothing but these things and they could easily just go "hey , show us what you do that works", but they don't, and just toss it to asiasoft because they're incompetent.

Gardios
Jul 12, 2013, 10:06 AM
and just toss it to asiasoft because they're incompetent.

Asiasoft has nothing to do with the international version.

Tenlade
Jul 12, 2013, 11:08 AM
wouldnt be surprised if they just lazily port that for international a year from now but yeah for now they're not involved.

They're still inccompetent.

AgemFrostMage
Jul 12, 2013, 11:32 AM
Asiasoft has nothing to do with the international version.

Give it to Chinesegamer they have a great record.