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Zyrusticae
Jul 23, 2013, 08:07 PM
Since the Episode 2 story stuff is coming out soon, let's discuss the story.

Quick recap (note: I haven't finished everything yet, so I might get some things wrong):


The ARKS as a whole: Everyone is on edge after the revelation that the ARKS hid knowledge of Dark Falz from the public eye. This could be a set up for something in the future, such as a splinter faction or even a military coup.

Zeno: MIA, presumed deceased. Last seen providing a distraction for Casra to escape from Dark Falz.

Echo: In a holding pattern waiting for confirmation that Zeno is actually dead. Presumably Zeno doesn't turn up, resulting in her transformation in Episode 2.

Afin: Now considerably more experienced than at the beginning, Afin can actually be considered a competent ARKS member. Has finally found his long-lost sister at the end of the ARKS Battle Festa...

Ulc: Confirmed deceased. All ARKS members are used as reserve detachments, including service personnel. She died in combat due to her lack of aptitude with photonic weaponry.

Theodore: A wreck. Though he has finally found the motivation he needs to destroy the Darkers, it is purely out of a desire for vengeance and a need to vent his frustration over Ulc's death. Possibly dangerous, both to himself and those around him. (Most interesting character at the moment, IMO.)

Fourier: She is now essentially the liaison between the Lilipans and other ARKS who are unable to communicate with them. She also takes care of Rogio.

Rogio: In hiding after an assault by an ARKS assassin, having only been saved by Sara. Rogio was the first to deduce that Dark Falz was who was hiding underneath the ruins in the middle of the tundra. Unfortunately, that revelation came a little too late. He also has suspicions of another, darker secret behind the ARKS - whatever it was that caused ARKS high command to target him, it was likely this.

Aki: She has finally established some level of communication with the upper echelons of the Dragonkin, hopefully the prequel to some form of change. Thanks to the player, she is also aware of the ARKS conspiracy, though she is not investing energy into investigating it due to the Dragonkin. Still considers her assistant Light to be a useless bum.

Gettemhart: Possessed by Dark Falz Elder, the man known as Gettemhart no longer truly exists. As his host, Dark Falz Elder now continuously attacks the ORACLE fleet, being beaten back repeatedly only to come back again for more. Whatever happened 10 years ago changed him into little more than a psychopathic, violent brute, and now he simply is no more.

Melphonsina: Alive, but not exactly well. (Haven't caught up to this one yet.)

Patty & Tea/Thea: Still alive and doing their "information gathering" thing. They've provided some juicy bits of info, including the knowledge that Darkers are attracted to ARKS purely because of their use of photons and thus would likely not exist (at least in such numbers) if ARKS were not around.

Marlu & Ohza: Yep, even with the Bravers released, they're still telling everyone their "my class is best, go with Forces/Hunters and forget about Hunters/Forces" spiel. I'm wondering if that's all they exist for...

Klotho: What can I say? Guy's a fucking billionaire. I don't even know where he gets all his money from, and the game never tells us, either. Whatever the case, he's just out there doin' his thing, completing missions and making simple observations.

Franka: I'm only mentioning her because, let's face it, this lady is the scariest member of all of the ARKS. She's willing to cook EVERYTHING. Doesn't matter how ugly or brutish it is, if it's edible, she'll cook it. She has no qualms with using cookware made out of the parts of living things, either. In all likelihood, if Dark Falz had meat, she'd cook that, too. This lady single-handedly makes living on an ARKS ship quite a harrowing experience. At least she's supposedly quite good at her job...

The Six Pillars of the ARKS

Maria & Regius: The two oldest and strongest members of the ARKS. Unsurprisingly, they're both Casts. They're both aware of some kind of secret behind the founding of the ARKS, but won't tell you about them directly. Regius is supposedly so incredibly powerful that even Huey trembles before his might. Sara is Maria's assistant/junior, but other than that, we don't know much about her.

Huey: Pretty much little more than a pawn. Like Clarice Claes, he has great skill and power but doesn't really know how to use it properly. Also completely ignorant of the organization's inner workings.

Clarice Claes: A living weapon, and that's about it. She's too stupid and incompetent to possess her own initiative, other than 'blowing up ALL the things!'. Her movements are tightly controlled and she is unable to use her full power without authorization, presumably because this power would cause incredible collateral damage. Curiously, the previous two Clarice Claes have perished in combat.

Casra/Kasura: Don't know much about him. He tells you about Falz and seems to know as much about the organization as Maria & Regius, though like those two, he seems to be under an NDA.

Kuna/Quna: Two-faced. Lives a double-life as an assassin and an idol. Solicits your help to track down and kill Hadred the Chrome Dragon, who she considers a traitor. (I haven't finished her story yet, so someone else will have to fill this one in.)

Did I miss anything or get anything wrong? Better let me know!

And before anyone asks "How can you possibly be THIS invested into the story?", I'm not. I just have a lot of free time since I'm stuck at work and finished everything already. :-)

Kondibon
Jul 23, 2013, 08:23 PM
Patty & Tea/Thea: Still alive and doing their "information gathering" thing. They've provided some juicy bits of info, including the knowledge that Darkers are attracted to ARKS purely because of their use of photons and thus would likely not exist (at least in such numbers) if ARKS were not around.


This sounds famiiiiiiiliar.

Gardios
Jul 23, 2013, 08:25 PM
You forgot about Matoi. Everyone including SEGA has forgotten about her.

Did Quna replace Atossa or is she 0 and Atossa has not been replaced yet?

This might also be a good opportunity to ask if anyone recorded all matter board events?

Freshellent
Jul 23, 2013, 08:32 PM
I was actually looking for something like this, so thank you for putting this up. The story is a bit better than I expected, it's easy to look at the game for face value and dismiss it.

gigawuts
Jul 23, 2013, 08:32 PM
Ulc: Confirmed deceased. All ARKS members are used as reserve detachments, including service personnel. She died in combat due to her lack of aptitude with photonic weaponry.
God damnit I liked her.


Theodore: A wreck. Though he has finally found the motivation he needs to destroy the Darkers, it is purely out of a desire for vengeance and a need to vent his frustration over Ulc's death. Possibly dangerous, both to himself and those around him. (Most interesting character at the moment, IMO.)
Oh, well they might make up for it if they do this right.

The Walrus
Jul 23, 2013, 08:45 PM
So who is Afin's sister?

I'm too lazy to play the plot ;_;

Kondibon
Jul 23, 2013, 08:47 PM
So who is Afin's sister?

I'm too lazy to play the plot ;_;
If you really want to know.
She's possessed by falz like Gettemhart so she's currently "Dark Falz Apprentice"

Ezodagrom
Jul 23, 2013, 08:47 PM
So who is Afin's sister?

I'm too lazy to play the plot ;_;
Spoilers below:
Apprentice's host, she first appears in a cutscene together with Elder, Double and Persona

The Walrus
Jul 23, 2013, 08:50 PM
Oh ok so she really is his sister then. Thanks guys.

Kion
Jul 23, 2013, 08:51 PM
You forgot about Matoi. Everyone including SEGA has forgotten about her.

Summer started, building a new computer. Noticing that in Episode 2 Sega has made some major improvements and the plot is starting to pick up.
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Kind of out of the loop at the moment, but I think I saw something about Matoi metting Xion in the script. Also, Light, Aki's assistant is a spy to keep track of her research. The higher ups decide not to fund her research anyways, on the basis that it has no merit, and Aki quits.
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Marlu & Ohza: Yep, even with the Bravers released, they're still telling everyone their "my class is best, go with Forces/Hunters and forget about Hunters/Forces" spiel. I'm wondering if that's all they exist for...

And Lisa to some degree too. I wish these characters were at least particially developed to have some random side, story, or goals or something.



Klotho: What can I say? Guy's a fucking billionaire. I don't even know where he gets all his money from, and the game never tells us, either. Whatever the case, he's just out there doin' his thing, completing missions and making simple observations.

If Klotho walked into a strip club, he'd make it rain. On second thought, the tacky cowboy hat, the glasses. Klotho is a pimp. He probably owns a bunch of strip clubs or casinos or something and doesn't walk to talk about it.



Franka: I'm only mentioning her because, let's face it, this lady is the scariest member of all of the ARKS. She's willing to cook EVERYTHING. Doesn't matter how ugly or brutish it is, if it's edible, she'll cook it. She has no qualms with using cookware made out of the parts of living things, either. In all likelihood, if Dark Falz had meat, she'd cook that, too. This lady single-handedly makes living on an ARKS ship quite a harrowing experience. At least she's supposedly quite good at her job...


This made me laugh out loud at my desk for a second.

Kondibon
Jul 23, 2013, 08:56 PM
Yaknow, the story has the potential to get REALLY dark now. ._. Secret experiments, likable characters getting offed, conspiracies. I need to catch up with the matter boards.

CloudChaser
Jul 23, 2013, 08:56 PM
This sounds famiiiiiiiliar.

Holy shit I just had an EPIPHANY!!!

Renvalt
Jul 23, 2013, 08:59 PM
Since the Episode 2 story stuff is coming out soon, let's discuss the story.

Quick recap (note: I haven't finished everything yet, so I might get some things wrong):

*snip*

Did I miss anything or get anything wrong? Better let me know!



Okay, some special info for ya.

Zeno: "Last seen providing a distraction for Casra to escape from Dark Falz." Where exactly does this occur? Also, I believe that the manner of Zeno's death and Echo's transformation makes it very likely that he could possibly be Persona. After all, Elder flew straight at the Arks Colony after killing Zeno, thereby making it very possible that Apprentice (AKA Afin's sister) might've snuck him into the ranks, which would explain why Elder was unaware of who Persona was (it also would explain the whole ordeal with why they don't like each other).

Theodore: Episode 2 preview cutscenes place him with Luther, so obviously Theo's going to have some kind of ties to the Photoners. To what extent, however, remains to be seen.

Fourier & Rogio: Together alongside you, I imagine they'll be crucial in liberating the Lilipan race. Those machines were attacking them, and we often see an elderly Lilipan during Gesture Codes, so my belief is that these two will be crucial in ending the Lilipa subplot.

Aki: Together with Ko'Rera, seems to be pushing this feminism theme going on here. Eager to see if Light mans up or gets eaten.

Melphonsina: In a state of "I don't care what happens to me anymore". There's a cutscene somewhere where she says "Don't come close to me, or you might die." upon taking the top choice. I think she's resigned herself to her beloved's mentality (ironically, the most important person to her is currently standing in as Elder's vessel - despite the abuse she's been under, she cares for him deeply. Either she's M or she's after something else, and the abuse is a consequence of that pursuit)

Quna: Apparently will pair up with Aki at some point, and meet that mysterious fellow Xiao. How this will play out, remains to be seen. However, Xiao's dialogue in the teaser indicates that "something" will begin. (saa, kaiken hajimeyo - or something to that effect).

Yden
Jul 23, 2013, 09:10 PM
Speaking about the story, how does the matter board even work? It seems to let you go back in time and redo things in the past only different unless I'm reading too much into it. Speaking of that, what is Xion's place in this whole thing?

EvilMag
Jul 23, 2013, 09:12 PM
Klotho robs from Dudu. That's how he gets all the money

Renvalt
Jul 23, 2013, 09:17 PM
Speaking about the story, how does the matter board even work? It seems to let you go back in time and redo things in the past only different unless I'm reading too much into it. Speaking of that, what is Xion's place in this whole thing?

Obviously, she screwed up sometime far, FAR into the future, and she traveled all the way back to the past to have us fix it.

Or, she's one part of a holy trinity that effectively mirrors the Falz Lords. Said trinity being her, Luther, and Matoi.

Matoi not remembering anything might be due to the fact that she hasn't come into contact with a certain "trigger" (no, not Chrono Trigger). Whatever that trigger she needs to ignite is, obviously Xion has something to do with it.

A theory I have, looking at Luther, is that she could be their (Luther and Xion's) child. In escaping whatever calamity befell them, Matoi got separated from her parents and gained amnesia because of the impact on Naberius.

Matter of fact, considering that Xion was vague about telling you to rescue Matoi, but knew you did it anyways, this theory seems EXTREMELY plausible. Her outfit theme matches; both with Xion and with Luther.

Zorafim
Jul 23, 2013, 09:25 PM
...when did Ulc die? I did all the story line, and never saw that. And when did Afin find his sister? Or lose her, for that matter?

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jul 23, 2013, 09:31 PM
...when did Ulc die? I did all the story line, and never saw that. And when did Afin find his sister? Or lose her, for that matter?

I forget which matter board it is, but there's an event field where Theodore strongly implies it, and the fact she's not in her usual spot on the ship anymore. Quite a bit sad and shocked they'd kill off a character like that... (for the record, Zeno's dissappearance didn't shock me as much as Ulc's... can't even say it...)

Afin lost his sister sometime within 10 years before the story of pso2 takes place (I do not remember exactly). He finds her during the arks battle festa. During the encounter, it is strongly implied that it is his sister from his reaction, but we all know what strongly implied means in the story now; your first guess should be the right one.

Zyrusticae
Jul 23, 2013, 09:33 PM
Oh wow, I completely forgot about Matoi and - unforgivably, Lisa. How could I let that happen?!

Though to be fair, neither of them have had much to do with the story at the moment. Fortunately, Lisa is as funny as ever - her whole reaction to Dark Falz' attack essentially boils down to "he actually wanted to kill me! I like him!"


Okay, some special info for ya.

Zeno: "Last seen providing a distraction for Casra to escape from Dark Falz." Where exactly does this occur? Also, I believe that the manner of Zeno's death and Echo's transformation makes it very likely that he could possibly be Persona. After all, Elder flew straight at the Arks Colony after killing Zeno, thereby making it very possible that Apprentice (AKA Afin's sister) might've snuck him into the ranks, which would explain why Elder was unaware of who Persona was (it also would explain the whole ordeal with why they don't like each other).
That is a distinct possibility, particularly with the theme of time travel going on in the game.

As for where he was last seen, it was mentioned by Casra in an event on MB 9.


...when did Ulc die? I did all the story line, and never saw that.
To add to what Maninbluejumpsuit said (nice name, btw), Theodore tells you (paraphrased), "Yes, that's right. I now have the power to destroy Darkers... I will use this power to exterminate all of them. Every single one I find! But the cost of gaining this power... to lose her... her..."

It was actually heart-wrenching to watch. Especially the way he just swayed back and forth at the end... The guy's just snapped. It'll be interesting to see where they take him in Episode 2.

Chacron
Jul 23, 2013, 09:36 PM
I forget which matter board it is, but there's an event field where Theodore strongly implies it, and the fact she's not in her usual spot on the ship anymore. Quite a bit sad and shocked they'd kill of a character like that...

Afin lost his sister sometime within 10 years before the story of pso2 takes place (I do not remember exactly). He finds her during the arks battle festa. During the encounter, it is strongly implied that it is his sister from his reaction, but we all know what strongly implied means in the story now; your first guess should be the right one.

Its also 10 years when Gettamhalt went all nutso too. So whatever event that happend then will be a plot point for Alfin, Mel, Gettam, and Alfin's sis.

Zorafim
Jul 23, 2013, 09:38 PM
...eh? They kill off characters like that and don't even clearly say anything about it? I ignore the tablets, since they're normally untranslated and normally don't give useful information. What else did I miss?
And actual stuff happened in ch11? All I saw was Levia and Marlu verbally copulating. I didn't know stuff actually happened that chapter!

Man, I'm kind of depressed now. I must have missed out on a bunch of information...

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jul 23, 2013, 09:42 PM
...eh? They kill off characters like that and don't even clearly say anything about it? I ignore the tablets, since they're normally untranslated and normally don't give useful information. What else did I miss?
And actual stuff happened in ch11? All I saw was Levia and Marlu verbally copulating. I didn't know stuff actually happened that chapter!

Man, I'm kind of depressed now. I must have missed out on a bunch of information...

Story translations are only choppy after MB8, but what is translated is pretty critical.

They didn't clearly say it, but it was 'strongly implied'. I must be one of the few people hoping she wasn't dead...

Gardios
Jul 23, 2013, 09:51 PM
Maybe Ulc is Persona?!

yoshiblue
Jul 23, 2013, 09:53 PM
If that's true, she has one heck of a sword arm.

Z-0
Jul 23, 2013, 09:58 PM
Ulc appears on a missing persons report at one point; you see her face on the screen, but I forget when this happens since I cleared all the MBs back in February and didn't touch the story since.

I actually don't think she's officially reported deceased, but I'm not so sure since I dunno Japanese.

Renvalt
Jul 23, 2013, 10:06 PM
If that's true, she has one heck of a sword arm.

That wouldn't work. If that were the case, her sword skills would've been borrowed from her Falz resident. I mean, she DID get killed, y'know. And she WAS an incompetent piece of work.

No, all the signs point to Zeno being Persona. Not only with everything we have on Persona now, but Agrajag datamined new Partner Card info on Zeno (he, too, undergoes a transformation). I'd show you, if it weren't for the fact that Agra's Dropbox account got killed by people spammin' it (that, and it's against the rules to do so).


Its also 10 years when Gettamhalt went all nutso too. So whatever event that happend then will be a plot point for Alfin, Mel, Gettam, and Alfin's sis.

Most likely Gettemhalt looked up to Afin's sister - maybe he even loved her. Perhaps Mel liked him. Perhaps there was a giant ass love triangle going on between them.

I see Apprentice as being the Force-based Falz. All the signs point to it. Also, Clarissa's past two wielders being killed? There's no confirmation of it, but I'm willing to wager that Afin's sis was its past owner.

Perhaps he was there 10 years ago to firsthand be the witness to the fate that befell Afin's sis. And obviously it would've meant he snapped out of revenge, much like our poor boy Theodore. Though his dialogue makes that unlikely. But Shina.... she loves him despite how shitty Gettemhalt treats her. I mean, you can just see it in her face, and hear it in her voice.

It's like the Echo X Zeno pairing, but driven to a more sinister extreme.

And Persona's soul having Ranger stats on it leads me to believe that Persona is the Ranger Falz, which considering Zeno's native photon layout (it's Ranger, not Hunter) makes him even FAR more likely to be Persona than anyone else.


Lisa is as funny as ever - her whole reaction to Dark Falz' attack essentially boils down to "he actually wanted to kill me! I like him!"

Note to self: Never let your guard down in a quest. Ever.

oratank
Jul 23, 2013, 10:10 PM
about Klotho he seem known alot of thing he was the first npc partner that know arks have dark secret hidden behind

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jul 23, 2013, 10:17 PM
about Klotho he seem known alot of thing he was the first npc partner that know arks have dark secret hidden behind

He also credits the player for looking into it. He's almost like Xion in the sense he knows, but doesn't want to do anything about it, though it seems like there's some cryptic as hell reason Xion can't do much about it.

He's a really smart lazy guy.



I see Apprentice as being the Force-based Falz. All the signs point to it. Also, Clarissa's past two wielders being killed? There's no confirmation of it, but I'm willing to wager that Afin's sis was its past owner.


Longshot much?


Ulc appears on a missing persons report at one point; you see her face on the screen, but I forget when this happens since I cleared all the MBs back in February and didn't touch the story since.

I actually don't think she's officially reported deceased, but I'm not so sure since I dunno Japanese.

I can hope!

Zyrusticae
Jul 23, 2013, 10:20 PM
Klotho's a really laid-back kinda guy. Not in the sense of Theodore (before Ulc's death, anyway) who's honestly just got no motivation, but in the sense of "man, this desert's too hot. And the tundra's too cold. I just want to stay somewhere nice and temperate!", y'know? So it's only natural that he'd let everyone else do all the hard stuff.

gigawuts
Jul 23, 2013, 10:22 PM
Ulc better come back as a duman.

Renvalt
Jul 23, 2013, 10:26 PM
Longshot much?

Hardly. Her outfit screams "Insect Darker Queen"; she has that Ragne-esque fixture on her back, kinda like a ribbon that you usually find on sailor fuku.

Breeadha has been known to spread pollen that gives El Dagans and Dagans wave-like attacks (think of it as an enchantment), and also shoots forth blobs of dark energy. Then there's also Kartargot, which uses a Demigrants-based laser.

Sure, you could argue that she could also be the Bird Darker Queen, but the signs point more to her ruling the Insect types.

Also, Insects seem to be more of the type that would "float" or "hover" around, rather than the Bird types which are known for soaring around. Force's Mirage Escape "floats" more than the other dodges.

Just... seems more plausible, is all.


Ulc better come back as a duman.

The odds of that happening are as high as Leda turning out to be anything but an incompetent buffoon. I'm not surprised he's still alive - he's almost as cowardly as the Vol Brothers from PSU. It'd make more sense for Leda to chicken out if he was called into action.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jul 23, 2013, 10:30 PM
Hardly. Her outfit screams "Insect Darker Queen"; she has that Ragne-esque fixture on her back, kinda like a ribbon that you usually find on sailor fuku.

Breeadha has been known to spread pollen that gives El Dagans and Dagans wave-like attacks (think of it as an enchantment), and also shoots forth blobs of dark energy. Then there's also Kartargot, which uses a Demigrants-based laser.

Sure, you could argue that she could also be the Bird Darker Queen, but the signs point more to her ruling the Insect types.

Also, Insects seem to be more of the type that would "float" or "hover" around, rather than the Bird types which are known for soaring around. Force's Mirage Escape "floats" more than the other dodges.

Just... seems more plausible, is all.


Should'ave edited that a little better, it was more about the 'previous weilder of clarisa thought to have died in battle' part.

Chacron
Jul 23, 2013, 10:33 PM
Ulc better come back as a duman.

I hope so, and hope they explain where Duman come from.

Punisher106
Jul 23, 2013, 10:35 PM
Something will tell me that Zeno will come back and steal all of the credit for saving the Oracle fleet from you. Just like how Ethan-fucking-Waber did.

Zyrusticae
Jul 23, 2013, 10:43 PM
Pretty sure it was the combined effort of all ARKS that "saved" the ORACLE fleet and that one man cannot possibly take credit for all of that effort.

Just sayin'.

Kondibon
Jul 23, 2013, 10:44 PM
Something will tell me that Zeno will come back and steal all of the credit for saving the Oracle fleet from you. Just like how Ethan-fucking-Waber did.

Yaknow, Zeno never struck me as being the "main character" Infact, the whole way the story is set up there doesn't seem to be one, other than the player, and I only say that because Xion gives you the matterboards and you're the one running around with the time travel shenanigans. So... I don't think that's likely.


Pretty sure it was the combined effort of all ARKS that "saved" the ORACLE fleet and that one man cannot possibly take credit for all of that effort.

Just sayin'.

Also this. I'm glad character development is actually happening though, it makes the cast feel more like set pieces.

Chacron
Jul 23, 2013, 10:45 PM
Pretty sure it was the combined effort of all ARKS that "saved" the ORACLE fleet and that one man cannot possibly take credit for all of that effort.

Just sayin'.

Well everyone but Claris. She was sleeping and didn't know about it until it was over. *Arks Government cover up*

Zyrusticae
Jul 23, 2013, 10:48 PM
Yaknow, Zeno never struck me as being the "main character" Infact, the whole way the story is set up there doesn't seem to be one, other than the player, and I only say that because Xion gives you the matterboards and you're the one running around with the time travel shenanigans. So... I don't think that's likely.
Keep in mind that you're not the only one with time travel powers in the game, as Persona and Matoi are likely both from the future as well. Your character is definitely the protagonist, but there's an emphasis being placed on the fact that you aren't a lone agent in this universe (and you can't be - it's not like one person can take on Falz alone, after all).


Well everyone but Claris. She was sleeping and didn't know about it until it was over. *Arks Government cover up*
Hah, that's a good point. Why did Clarice miss out on the battle? Considering the Clarissa was used to awaken Falz in the first place, I'm going to guess that has something to do with it...

Chacron
Jul 23, 2013, 10:53 PM
Something will tell me that Zeno will come back and steal all of the credit for saving the Oracle fleet from you. Just like how Ethan-fucking-Waber did.

Your avatar is still the main character. Zeno is more or less your Mentor or Sempai. Zeno says something to that affect in a event tablet when Echo is complaining about you getting more attention then her. Think he then says something ironic like you need to get stronger and what would you do if I weren't around.

Kondibon
Jul 23, 2013, 10:53 PM
Keep in mind that you're not the only one with time travel powers in the game, as Persona and Matoi are likely both from the future as well. Your character is definitely the protagonist, but there's an emphasis being placed on the fact that you aren't a lone agent in this universe (and you can't be - it's not like one person can take on Falz alone, after all).

Oh, I know. Xion just puts a lot of emphasis on how she's trusting you fix a bunch of stuff and that she gave you, specifically, the matter boards. My point was less about the time travel and more about the situation your character acquired it through. It has a distinct "chosen one" vibe, though I have the feeling that's gonna get deconstructed more and more.

Alisha
Jul 23, 2013, 11:06 PM
on this subject why does astarte have entries on ragol, gurhal and seed? i can only read kana so i have no clue on the context.

Z-0
Jul 23, 2013, 11:13 PM
It's just part of the pop quiz, as answers to the questions, such as "what is the name of the arks fleet?" and "what are the enemies of the Arks?".

Maronji
Jul 23, 2013, 11:25 PM
Zeno is more or less your mentor or senpai.
Or "sempai"; whichever floats your boat.

Fixed. If you're going to use Japanese terms, at least make sure you're using the right ones. "Kouhai" suggests that Zeno is our junior, and I'm pretty sure that he was around before we came along.

Chacron
Jul 23, 2013, 11:44 PM
Or "sempai"; whichever floats your boat.

Fixed. If you're going to use Japanese terms, at least make sure you're using the right ones. "Kouhai" suggests that Zeno is our junior, and I'm pretty sure that he was around before we came along.

Ah, right you are. I'll edit it.

Maronji
Jul 23, 2013, 11:50 PM
Ah, right you are. I'll edit it.

Sorry if it sounded like I was busting your chops. In a bit of a bad mood from another thread at the moment.

@The whole Ulc thing: Does anyone know when this comes up? Like, is it a side-matter from one of the matter boards? Is it a blue event tablet? Anything?

I'm asking because I haven't seen it yet and want to try to hunt it down when the servers come back up.

Maximum Burst
Jul 23, 2013, 11:55 PM
And Persona's soul having Ranger stats on it leads me to believe that Persona is the Ranger Falz, which considering Zeno's native photon layout (it's Ranger, not Hunter) makes him even FAR more likely to be Persona than anyone else.

Elder's Soul gives T-Atk, so does that make Elder a Force-type despite possessing a Fighter?

Ah, and come to think of it, did they explain why there are two Clarissas? There's the one used to awaken Elder and the one that Claris uses.

Yden
Jul 24, 2013, 12:32 AM
Your avatar is still the main character. Zeno is more or less your Mentor or Sempai. Zeno says something to that affect in a event tablet when Echo is complaining about you getting more attention then her. Think he then says something ironic like you need to get stronger and what would you do if I weren't around.

Speaking about Zeno, he mentions that you resemble his teacher a couple of times. For some reason I get the impression that there will be some time travel shenanigans that will reveal that an older version of you will become his teacher and you'll pass down what he taught you back to a younger version of him.

Kion
Jul 24, 2013, 12:50 AM
Elder's Soul gives T-Atk, so does that make Elder a Force-type despite possessing a Fighter?

Ah, and come to think of it, did they explain why there are two Clarissas? There's the one used to awaken Elder and the one that Claris uses.

Sorry, this is my raw translation short hand, but I ran across a conversation with Zig in the data:

[spoiler-box]
The weapon Clarrisa? Of course I know about it.
"White tin Clarrisa". It's the special weapon used by Clarris Cleas.
So what is it that you want to know about it? Want me to make an imitation of it or something?
The weapon that I repaired before was th actual weapon? That' not possible.
I've seen other genesis weapons before, but the potential on that one didn't even come close.
Genesis weapons are how should I put it? They're much more terrifying.
I didn't get that feeling from the weapon I fixed for you.
The Clarissa has an interesting history. It could be it's in the hands of someone who can't use it properly, or it's hiding its power.
[/spoiler-box]

Assuming one or the other is a copy.

Kondibon
Jul 24, 2013, 12:52 AM
Speaking about Zeno, he mentions that you resemble his teacher a couple of times. For some reason I get the impression that there will be some time travel shenanigans that will reveal that an older version of you will become his teacher and you'll pass down what he taught you back to a younger version of him.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/goldenchiklet/Forumite/FFFFFFFF.png (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/)

This explains everything...

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jul 24, 2013, 01:08 AM
Speaking about Zeno, he mentions that you resemble his teacher a couple of times. For some reason I get the impression that there will be some time travel shenanigans that will reveal that an older version of you will become his teacher and you'll pass down what he taught you back to a younger version of him.

I feel my stomach turning at reading this for some reason.

solid_snark
Jul 24, 2013, 01:54 AM
Did Quna replace Atossa or is she 0 and Atossa has not been replaced yet?

Quna states in the cutscene right before the battle with Hadred that she is 0.

dejixal
Jul 24, 2013, 02:05 AM
Klotho is a pretty cool guy; He tells you classified information just to see your reaction since you're a 'serious' arks member.

Shear
Jul 24, 2013, 03:37 AM
I feel my stomach turning at reading this for some reason.

Aww come on, that's not even the worst Time Travel Trope they could use ;-)
Just wait until the first Character becomes his own Father/Mother :-P

On a serious note I bet for sure that we will Travel in the past at some point and meet younger Zeno, the Time Travel plot is practically asking for it :D

yoshiblue
Jul 24, 2013, 03:41 AM
Double funny if he chose to be a hunter because of a blade you end up giving him.

Gardios
Jul 24, 2013, 04:21 AM
Elder's Soul gives T-Atk, so does that make Elder a Force-type despite possessing a Fighter?

And this is why one should never deduce plot elements from gameplay. Especially not in MMOs.


Jonesy (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/)

This explains everything...

Yup, my reaction. Brb, reading new comics...


Quna states in the cutscene right before the battle with Hadred that she is 0.

Ah, right. So there's still a spot open.

Dycize
Jul 24, 2013, 08:18 AM
Haven't read all the thread, but here's what's up with Melfonseana :
[spoiler-box]She is last seen in some side-MB tablets from MB 9/10. She used to follow Gettem around because she always felt it was her fault that he became like this. Now that he became even worse, she also got worse. She doesn't speak to anyone at all and secretly trains to become even stronger. When our character meets her, she outright tell us to forget about her. Just like Theodore, she's kind of a wild card right now.
Also, I said that before in at least one other Story thread, but Zeno/Gettem and Echo/Melfon are having a mirror development. Zeno became Hunter to protect others while Gettem became a self centered, death seeking jerk. Zeno ends up sacrificing (?) himself while Gettem got taken over.
Echo decides to take up the sword to follow in Zeno's footsteps while Melfon decides to become even stronger out of guilt ("If I had been stronger then, things wouldn't have happened like this").[/spoiler-box]
I really wonder how they're going to tie up all the plot points hanging. Particularly when Episode 2 looks like it'll introduce even more friggin' plot points. Matoi and Double are waiting.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jul 24, 2013, 10:42 AM
Ah ran into the event in the lobby. What was the gist of that encounter? More importantly the convo between Kuna and Casra.

Shinamori
Jul 24, 2013, 12:50 PM
That's EP2.

Shinamori
Jul 24, 2013, 12:51 PM
I feel sorry for Theodore. Just watched B2 on the Matterboard. :(. Dunno what said, but he look like he been to hell.

CloudChaser
Jul 25, 2013, 12:31 PM
The only thing I wish they would do is throw in something where the player does more then just stand there during sequences concerning dire situations. (Have only played up to MB5 so if there are more things you do please let me know. also how many MB's are there in episode 1?)

angrysquid
Jul 25, 2013, 12:33 PM
I feel sorry for Theodore. Just watched B2 on the Matterboard. :(. Dunno what said, but he look like he been to hell.

His signature move: Weird head tilt

CloudChaser
Jul 25, 2013, 12:46 PM
Aww come on, that's not even the worst Time Travel Trope they could use ;-)
Just wait until the first Character becomes his own Father/Mother :-P

That would be theoretically impossible, He would have to be born of a different father in order to even exist, go back in time and become a father to a different child, and that child couldn't be him because your son cannot be your own self. Long story short your sperm would react with her egg in a completely different chromosomal combination then your father had intially inserted into your mother. It is in all ways impossible.

I really hope that makes sense it was very hard to explain^^;

CloudChaser
Jul 25, 2013, 12:54 PM
Yaknow, Zeno never struck me as being the "main character" Infact, the whole way the story is set up there doesn't seem to be one, other than the player, and I only say that because Xion gives you the matterboards and you're the one running around with the time travel shenanigans. So... I don't think that's likely.

Yea but I think the player is more of a hidden piece assisting others become successful without anyone knowing it. In other words, the character will more than likely recieve a "thank you" then a "omg your my hero"

AFKei
Jul 25, 2013, 01:32 PM
I feel sorry for Theodore. Just watched B2 on the Matterboard. :(. Dunno what said, but he look like he been to hell.

Ulc, Theo's closest friend (to the point that pixiv ships these two) got killed in action offscreen. He snapped and is out for Darker blood. My heart felt shattered. </3

Punisher106
Jul 25, 2013, 01:52 PM
Yea but I think the player is more of a hidden piece assisting others become successful without anyone knowing it. In other words, the character will more than likely recieve a "thank you" then a "omg your my hero"

This. It bugged the living hell out of me in PSU and PSP2(i). You didn't get the proper credit at the end, and in a side story in PSP2, Ethan and Karen were showered with all the praise as the heroes, and the player was never mentioned. And I know this, because in the PSP games, from what I've gathered, Vivienne is looking for a certain person, which is supposed to be you in PSU. So I know for a fact the game does references to the player in PSU in the PSP games. Emilia was the one that was gathering all the attention in PSP2, and Nagisa, as well, in Infinity. Out of the PS games I've played the story mode of all the way through, PSZ is the only game that focuses on your character and is acknowledged as the hero.

Dycize
Jul 25, 2013, 02:13 PM
Actually we're thanked more than once for assisting.
Though our character is silently humble, we often get a "I don't know how this would have gone without you".
Our strength also gets acknowledged.
The point remains that the story is focusing more on the events around us than on us though.