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Zyrusticae
Aug 12, 2013, 06:34 PM
Very simple. I'm quite curious as to how wealthy the average player is... or at least, the average PSO-W player, anyway.

Z-0
Aug 12, 2013, 06:35 PM
200 million at the moment. Not too much...

Skye-Fox713
Aug 12, 2013, 06:36 PM
200 million at the moment. Not too much...

how do you save up that much and can i haz some?

I consider myself broke, only 60k meseta atm

yoshiblue
Aug 12, 2013, 06:36 PM
Only 400k

BIG OLAF
Aug 12, 2013, 06:37 PM
This will (d)evolve into an e-peen competition before it hits page 3.

gigawuts
Aug 12, 2013, 06:38 PM
Not very. I had momentum for a long while, but took a break and came back to find out a bunch of stuff was released that I wanted.

So I got to pay the "late and missed the scratch" tax on a bunch of stuff.

Esofor
Aug 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
nah no one has enough money for that

i'm at about 40m l0l

jiasu73
Aug 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
Only have 230m-240m at the moment...Must be nice to be one of those really rich people wish i had more meseta but no longer have a shop! more then enough to buy me a lot of aesthetics though!!! The main part of the game! Right Esofor!? my poverty buddy!!

Zyrusticae
Aug 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
Come to think of it, I wonder if there's even a player on Ship 2 with over 1 billion meseta.

I'm sure there's at least a few, somewhere... some rich virtual money mogul out there...

Metalsnake27
Aug 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
1.3 mil...

I have a shop pass that I'm going to use at some point.... lol

Ezodagrom
Aug 12, 2013, 06:41 PM
I'm usually around the 10~40 million range, though since I'm collecting lobby actions, whenever there's a new scratch I tend to spend alot... ^^;
Right now I have close to 20 million, probably (my meseta is separated between 4 characters, so not exactly sure how much).

Alucard V
Aug 12, 2013, 06:41 PM
400 k or so.

BIG OLAF
Aug 12, 2013, 06:41 PM
Come to think of it, I wonder if there's even a player on Ship 2 with over 1 billion meseta.

I'm sure there's at least a few, somewhere... some rich virtual money mogul out there...

I believe Jack (Hc4) said he hit over one billion some weeks ago.

There's no doubt in my mind some JPs out there have amounts that dwarf even him, as well.

Esofor
Aug 12, 2013, 06:42 PM
Only have 230m-240m at the moment...Must be nice to be one of those really rich people wish i had more meseta but no longer have a shop! more then enough to buy me a lot of aesthetics though!!! The main part of the game! Right Esofor!? my poverty buddy!!

yeah!!

~250m really doesn't do much nowadays

forever pooorrrrrrr

Walkure
Aug 12, 2013, 06:42 PM
Counting salable items or no?

Regardless, not very wealthy on that scale.

strikerhunter
Aug 12, 2013, 06:42 PM
1.6mil this morning and now I'm crying in a corner as I'm standing at 460k.

Although there some 10*s that I have that I can sell for 7mil+ once I get another shop ticket again.

Xaeris
Aug 12, 2013, 06:42 PM
In meseta, I've got 60m in my bank. My liquid assets (photon spheres, grind boosters, etc.) add something like another 15m. And then lord only knows how much money I have tied up in my wardrobe.

The Walrus
Aug 12, 2013, 06:43 PM
Around 500k since I bought new outfits, accessories and 10* weapons recently.

Zyrusticae
Aug 12, 2013, 06:44 PM
Haha, damn, some real wealth disparity going on here.

So there's a bunch of folks who are, um, going on the poor side, then a bunch of folks in the middle in the tens of millions, and then some folks on the high end of the scale with 200m+. So far no one in the range between 50m-199m (who's posted, at any rate (edit: oh there you go, hi Xaeris)).

But please don't say 200m isn't much, haha, lots of us have never seen that much money in our accounts!

solid_snark
Aug 12, 2013, 06:47 PM
Never got much above 2 mil until I went premium. Even then, I wouldn't be where I am if I hadn't been able to sell that rifle for 18 mil. (currently at 26 mil and resisting the urge to buy lobby actions)

Tianren
Aug 12, 2013, 06:49 PM
285 meseta. I think I win the poverty war.

Zyrusticae
Aug 12, 2013, 06:50 PM
Alright, fess up. How many of you guys who picked the 1 bil+ option did it just because it was there?

Xaeris
Aug 12, 2013, 06:50 PM
Rise up with the rest of your proletariat brothers, my friend.

Mewnie
Aug 12, 2013, 06:53 PM
Currently broke (well, 600k is pretty much space poor) but clawing my way back up.

I don't save up for 10* gear, since that would imply that 10* shit actually drops for me (it doesn't) so I can get a pass.

No, all my meseta goes towards space dress up and lobby actions. Oh and grinding 9* lambdas because that's all that's really necessary.

Emp
Aug 12, 2013, 06:54 PM
Alright, fess up. How many of you guys who picked the 1 bil+ option did it just because it was there?

After u vote, the poll numbers are linked to a list of ppl names.

And I currently hv 6mil. I really dont see myself by anything for a very long time. Sega fails to impress me with their female costumes and im tired of grinding.

~Aya~
Aug 12, 2013, 06:54 PM
170 ish thousand atm. I make a few million in a day and spend it in the same day or the next. I have been collecting every single accessory/Lobby Action/Hairstyle in the game. I have necer found a rare worth over 500k either.

It's TA's and finding units with souls/level III's and selling those.

Recently bought an outfit for 1.9m and sold it for 2.4m same day~ Although I rarely shop snipe or play the shops at all.

supersonix9
Aug 12, 2013, 06:55 PM
how many here buy AC and scratch to make money? meehehehe

Foxy-Kun
Aug 12, 2013, 06:58 PM
Come to think of it, I wonder if there's even a player on Ship 2 with over 1 billion meseta.

I'm sure there's at least a few, somewhere... some rich virtual money mogul out there...

I have about 200k, i started about a week ago, casually playing it, ofc.
My friend took a picture of a guy that was in his party saying that he had 43 billion meseta [or so] and he showed him, it was true, he did.

Friend no longer has the picture. Sucks, I would have posted it.

Shirai
Aug 12, 2013, 06:59 PM
Currently have only 20 mil.
This scratch took too much of my money.

Also been too lazy to really do TAs and stuff.

Wish I could have 20+ billion like some dude on the uploader had, would be able to help so many people out who needed it. ;_;

Gardios
Aug 12, 2013, 06:59 PM
I've never had more than 2m in my entire PSO2 life. There's just so much shit to buy... I'm saving up for Intake Pony, Summer Rappy Suit and the CAST parts in the next scratch right now, and that seems impossible for me to get in a timely manner.

Thank god I don't really care for equipment, I settle for +6 most of the time. Affixing? Ahaha, as if...

Zyrusticae
Aug 12, 2013, 07:02 PM
43 billion.... good lordy lord.

I just realized I didn't answer my own question. I typically run between 10-25m, and very rarely ever go outside of that range (the last time that happened was waaaay back when I went on a spending spree buying up a bunch of 10*s). I'm actually running a surplus now and have something like 32m between my three characters, which is a first for me (I usually spend it on something as soon as I go over 26m, heh).

I spend very little on gear, and the most I ever affix is a soul + stat III, which keeps costs way, way down. I just can't afford anything bigger, y'know?

gigawuts
Aug 12, 2013, 07:03 PM
Yeah, money kind of starts making itself after you have a set amount and just play the game. After you have a decent set of gear and break, like, 30m, you're probably going to keep going on the rise.

For a number answer from me, well, I can't really give one. In one week I'll jump between 10k, 20m, and then down to 30k again when I've drained most of my wallet on whatever and then finally nab something I wanted for a good price with almost everything I had left. Then the cycle repeats.

Cyron Tanryoku
Aug 12, 2013, 07:04 PM
16mil Meseta

This is honestly only because they reduced the amount of stuff I want these past few updates

With two characters I should have more but..no one to do time attacks on human with

Punisher106
Aug 12, 2013, 07:06 PM
About 600k. Curse you, grinder gods...

AlaskanKactus
Aug 12, 2013, 07:24 PM
A little over a 1 million. In my little world that meant something but then I saw this thread lol

Sayara
Aug 12, 2013, 07:26 PM
-46 million.

actually almost 1 M.
It will be -46 million if someone lets me have that kinda scratch to finally own Diabolic Gauntlets.

Impotent Symptom
Aug 12, 2013, 07:27 PM
210k.

Dudu needs to die the death.

Monica....no, fuck you too, get my shit to +10, stop failing with full protects, etc,ect,ect.

pkemr4
Aug 12, 2013, 07:32 PM
sitting at 2.5 mil

Thermalwolf
Aug 12, 2013, 07:34 PM
300k and I usually never float over 1 to 2mil only because I'm lazy and don't feel like doing time attacks. I swear I buy too many costumes... Speedo anybody?

ZER0 DX
Aug 12, 2013, 07:34 PM
Usually average around 400k to 1.5 mil. Never really get any higher than that. I found an SSPN Launcher today which happened to be the 2nd 10* weapon I've had drop ever, (first was an Elder Fist) and was hoping it was worth a nice chunk of change but found out it's only worth 200k now. I never find this stuff when it's actually worth anything.

MetalDude
Aug 12, 2013, 07:40 PM
4m+, was 10m at one point in my lifetime. I got my Lambda Salizania to 50 element so I just need to finish up affixes, get Black Wings with Quartz + Pow III + Stam Boost and I'll be set for a long time until pyroxene katanas are a thing.

Faylen
Aug 12, 2013, 07:41 PM
About 30k Saving up for the last piece of my ICE Armor set.

NoiseHERO
Aug 12, 2013, 07:44 PM
Nah, I only got like 2 days worth of taco money.

BlankM
Aug 12, 2013, 07:53 PM
Do you really have to show names? <.<

SakoHaruo
Aug 12, 2013, 08:01 PM
I had 68mil last week. now I have 18mil :(

I made a few end game weapons tho :D

BlankM
Aug 12, 2013, 08:07 PM
Forbs and Hc4 are trolling the polls. ;_;

Tomo-Kinji
Aug 12, 2013, 08:10 PM
I have 6.5mil atm, but my highest is 12+mil ._.

UnLucky
Aug 12, 2013, 08:20 PM
'Bout 75mil now. Stopped doing TACOs a while ago since without premium there's a limit to what I can even buy. Only dip down if I upgrade new gear, but my alt now has most every 10* I could reasonably have all at +10. Still got 10m in that wallet and I didn't even gear it up using my main.

I mean I'd 4/5s all my stuff, but I don't consider my life's worth a good trade for 60 Atk.

D-Gold
Aug 12, 2013, 08:25 PM
around 700k atm

I have two characters that can do vh tacos but with my spending habits I usually end up at around 500k at the end of the day

Inazuma
Aug 12, 2013, 08:28 PM
I somehow manage to buy everything I want and also be broke all the time. I would love to have over 100m or 1b saved for future content but I can't ever seem to fully catch up with the game.

vantwan123
Aug 12, 2013, 08:29 PM
Stopped spending any meseta except for mates/drinks about 1.5 weeks ago and I went from 1m to 46m but it's taking everything I have to not buy LA and costumes.

Gonna keep saving up until an important update for weapons.

strikerhunter
Aug 12, 2013, 08:35 PM
Stopped spending any meseta except for mates/drinks about 1.5 weeks ago and I went from 1m to 46m but it's taking everything I have to not buy LA and costumes.

Gonna keep saving up until an important update for weapons.

How much would you save by then for December's Unknown Update on Weapon Customization?

GuardianGirth
Aug 12, 2013, 08:50 PM
Like 1 mil.
Most i've had was 65mil. It was gone within a few hours.

Money is nothing more than equipment I havent bought yet.
Considering I have about 4-5 classes to equip, thats why i'm always poor.

LordShade
Aug 12, 2013, 09:23 PM
I had 105mil or so

units, 3 abilty affixing along with dressup and its down to 22mil.

disappears quickly.

BlankM
Aug 12, 2013, 09:29 PM
I somehow manage to buy everything I want and also be broke all the time. I would love to have over 100m or 1b saved for future content but I can't ever seem to fully catch up with the game.

Story of my life. It always seems like 100mil is a lot of meseta. But in actuality it can be lost so easy(Specially because Dudu). Gets to the point where you ask how rich you got to be to spend comfortably in a game where gear/affixing costs multiply.

Chdata
Aug 12, 2013, 09:52 PM
Never had more than 11m, yet I've never had problems with getting gear/clothing I want.

Of course, I only have one outfit that I keep, don't care about most lobby actions, and have had some really good luck with 10 grinding and 3slot affixing.

Chik'Tikka
Aug 12, 2013, 10:09 PM
currently like 3.1 mill, been chasing them black lace gloves and socks, seems every time i do a set of TAs, they are like 800k more that i don't have+^_^+

it's actually quite frustrating.......

BlueCast Boy
Aug 12, 2013, 10:21 PM
the highest meseta I earned was 10mil since someone bought my 5mil Lambda Failnaught and 4mil Nishiki and the total amount of my meseta back on january. But my current right now is 1mil to 3mil

Coatl
Aug 12, 2013, 10:25 PM
Secret. ;3

BlankM
Aug 12, 2013, 10:28 PM
You already voted on the poll though...

BIG OLAF
Aug 12, 2013, 10:30 PM
Secret. ;3

Little Cootie has a wealth.....of knowledge!

HIT0SHI
Aug 12, 2013, 10:31 PM
I had 10mil just incase for EP2, now im at 1mil thanks to all the new stuff and due to grinding that Guild Milla to potential 2 +10 but it was worth it! The fact that im male and a cast makes my life easy on the new stuff sense its pretty cheap.

Gama
Aug 12, 2013, 10:31 PM
my wallet is always fluctuating from 1 mil to 0 xD

the best i ever reached was 6 mil and it took lots of self controll...

Jungo Torii
Aug 12, 2013, 11:13 PM
Fluctuates from 1.5-8 or 9 mil generally. Too lazy to get any more.

BUT MONEY DOESN'T MAKE YOU HAPPY. DANCING DOES.

Ryno
Aug 12, 2013, 11:20 PM
lol. im not even wealthy on PSO2. not like used to be in PSU when i was adicted and didnt know what to do with my spending money and i would always spend 600 dollars on AC every pay check. becuase I have other things to spend in life with my money these days(getting older). i'll by Arks cash once Christmas comes. thats the last time i actually bought it. :D

Aeris
Aug 12, 2013, 11:40 PM
Since i do tacos so often, about 18-19 million + a lot of stuff i need to sell in storage since i need to clean it out it lol.

AlphaDragoon
Aug 12, 2013, 11:49 PM
Got like 500,000 at the moment. If I had the money some of you folks had I'd get an Agito, but I'm broke so I have to hunt for it. XD

zegun~kun
Aug 12, 2013, 11:59 PM
seriously, what do i need to do to reach 1 billion mesetas???

Zenobia
Aug 13, 2013, 12:01 AM
I believe Jack (Hc4) said he hit over one billion some weeks ago.

There's no doubt in my mind some JPs out there have amounts that dwarf even him, as well.

Actually there was a pic on jp uploader with a JP player with over 100billiong just saiyan

anyway I have like 300mill sense I sell and do TA's I really don't buy much sense I am no collector.

.Jack
Aug 13, 2013, 12:14 AM
Not as much as this guy: :-D

[SPOILER-BOX]

lols@ppl taking pics srs

http://i.imgur.com/ns5I8Nz.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Zenobia
Aug 13, 2013, 12:21 AM
Not as much as this guy: :-D

[SPOILER-BOX]

lols@ppl taking pics srs

http://i.imgur.com/ns5I8Nz.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

LMFAO HC4 WHY............

Xaeris
Aug 13, 2013, 12:21 AM
Dafaq.

strikerhunter
Aug 13, 2013, 12:44 AM
Not as much as this guy: :-D

[SPOILER-BOX]

lols@ppl taking pics srs

http://i.imgur.com/ns5I8Nz.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Dayum!

A New title had been bestowed: Objective-Most Fun points, AC, and Mesta held by one player in the Game: Dayum@!

Think Hc4 still beats everyone in mesta count even if everyone in the thread combines their mesta.

Zenobia
Aug 13, 2013, 12:46 AM
DEM MATCHING DIGITS 8D!!

strikerhunter
Aug 13, 2013, 12:47 AM
DEM MATCHING DIGITS 8D!!

I actually found that quite funny.

supersonix9
Aug 13, 2013, 12:53 AM
wow obviously hacks i can tell from the pixels and a few photoshop in my

Noc Codez
Aug 13, 2013, 01:11 AM
Holy hack batman ! Lol

Mike
Aug 13, 2013, 01:32 AM
More money less insults.

Darki
Aug 13, 2013, 01:45 AM
Most of the time I'm between the 100k~1m area. I'd be millionarie now if I didn't spend my weekly TACO earnings in clothes and other useless stuff, but I'm not too obsessed with updating my gear (I've been using my current weapons for over half a year), so I usually let myself get lost in cosmetic purchasing berserks.

I don't think I've ever gotten over 20m, I don't even remember getting over 10m, lol.

Evangelion X.XX
Aug 13, 2013, 02:27 AM
I have 50 mil now... but was dirt poor for a long time because of my need to get better weapons and units as the game progressed, which also meant constant grinding and affixing.

But as what gigawut had already mentioned, after playing the game for a good long while and you had gotten all the units and weapons that you want (along with their proper affixes), had attained the level cap for the main and subclass that you want, then there's really not much else to do except TACO's and just whatever else you feel, like the Matter Board, AQ's, EQ's,etc.... and meseta just comes in by the stockpile, especially if you have a player shop. This is, of course, provided you're not too obsessed about collecting costumes, accessories, lobby actions, etc.

Buying popular stuff to sell later, like the wedding corsage, dance LA's, pareo's, I think would be a great way to make money in the long term.

Also, once I hit 100 mil I'm thinking about starting my own "affixing 10* weapons" business to sell them for a high price on the player's market.... so we'll see how that goes.

The more money one has, the easier it is to make money.... but when one's poor, everything's a struggle just to get by.

Rien
Aug 13, 2013, 02:47 AM
I can't buy 10*s because I don't have premium

So I have more money than I actually should

Renette
Aug 13, 2013, 03:02 AM
I ended my last play session with 100,000+. Currently saving up for the next costume scratch. I'm looking at you, Lumia Swimwear!

jooozek
Aug 13, 2013, 04:13 AM
only 20kk since i cba to run tacos
not like i need meseta so the pile just grows

ChronoTrigga
Aug 13, 2013, 04:45 AM
I'm sorry but as a new player I'm gonna have to ask......will one of you rich mofo's buy me a Lillipan suit? I'll pay you back eventually plus you'll have a new friend to play with. No homo.

o0Kais0o
Aug 13, 2013, 06:07 AM
Lately I can't seem have more than 1 mil, mostly because Dudu and Monica are evil. That and I buy too many outfits and accessories.

Ce'Nedra
Aug 13, 2013, 06:24 AM
Love how people say "only 200mil" and make it sound they are poor yet the majority will not even get above 10 mil.

Anyway atm I'm in the 1-10mil bracket, mostly I hover arround 20 mil though.

Infinity Series
Aug 13, 2013, 06:36 AM
about 40-50 mil a few days ago

then i went to dodo

and now iam sitting between 1-10 mil

BIG OLAF
Aug 13, 2013, 06:42 AM
Love how people say "only 200mil" and make it sound they are poor yet the majority will not even get above 10 mil.

thatsthejoke.jpg

They think they're being funny, and probably rubbing one out whilst reading how 'poor' all us other dirty plebs are.

kazuuya
Aug 13, 2013, 06:48 AM
I'm one of that dudes that never get over 2 mil. I just don't have time to play everyday and I always buy/grind stuff. OTL I mostly buy though.

Zipzo
Aug 13, 2013, 06:48 AM
thatsthejoke.jpg

They think they're being funny, and probably rubbing one out whilst reading how 'poor' all us other dirty plebs are.

thatsthefunnything.jpg

It's not a joke to them, they're just saying that because it makes them hard. It's like a hot chick walking in to a room full of average dudes saying "Ugh...I'm so ugly".

Kondibon
Aug 13, 2013, 06:51 AM
thatsthejoke.jpg

They think they're being funny, and probably rubbing one out whilst reading how 'poor' all us other dirty plebs are.


thatsthefunnything.jpg

It's not a joke to them, they're just saying that because it makes them hard. It's like a hot chick walking in to a room full of horny dudes saying "Ugh...I'm so ugly".

You guys must be riots at parties...
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I usually hover around 50-150k since I spend all my TACO money on clothes and grinding, assuming I even bother to do TACOs. I had over 2m once, but that was because I got a shop ticket and sold half a years worth of stuff grinders in one sitting.

Zipzo
Aug 13, 2013, 06:52 AM
You guys must be riots at parties...
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I usually hover around 50-150k since I spend all my TACO money on clothes and grinding assuming I even bother to do TACOs. I had over 2m once, but that was because I got a shop ticket and sold half a years worth of stuff grinders in one sitting.

I don't go to parties.

jooozek
Aug 13, 2013, 06:57 AM
Love how people say "only 200mil" and make it sound they are poor yet the majority will not even get above 10 mil.

Anyway atm I'm in the 1-10mil bracket, mostly I hover arround 20 mil though.

didn't you make millions upon millions from spending 50 bucks monthly on ac scratch? i remember seeing you write something to that degree somewhere on forums

BlankM
Aug 13, 2013, 07:14 AM
thatsthefunnything.jpg

It's not a joke to them, they're just saying that because it makes them hard. It's like a hot chick walking in to a room full of average dudes saying "Ugh...I'm so ugly".

Funny since most people are saying it just to elicit responses like this. haha.

People who are rich either don't spend, or have some luck/go through some process that involves luck. Its that simple really, not like anyone has anything to hide/be proud about.

Since everything is decided by RNG, having a lot of meseta doesn't even matter since you could lose it so fast. PSO2 economy is also controlled by the illuminati, so prices become outrageous for no reason.

Its like investing into a casino, that you can play forever in. You invest in order to keep playing and hopefully become self-sufficient with your gambling money. But in PSO2...you never cash out.

vantwan123
Aug 13, 2013, 07:19 AM
Who is richer, Klotho or Dudu?

I mean one of them is like a fountain of meseta and the other is a black hole.

KazukiQZ
Aug 13, 2013, 07:25 AM
^Klotho of course! He gives money to players who works hard (by doing TA in short time)
Meanwhile Dudu's just another grinding company's employee, he even has a co-worker (Monica, who ironically will never been seen work together with as they work on different block xD)

Zenobia
Aug 13, 2013, 07:33 AM
Thing is with how the market is and dudu and affixing and all that jazz you lose all that money real fucking fast I don't. You will always be affixing something , you will always be grinding something to =10 buying w/e boosters or all that jazz to compensate.

Zipzo
Aug 13, 2013, 08:14 AM
Funny since most people are saying it just to elicit responses like this. haha.

People who are rich either don't spend, or have some luck/go through some process that involves luck. Its that simple really, not like anyone has anything to hide/be proud about.

Since everything is decided by RNG, having a lot of meseta doesn't even matter since you could lose it so fast. PSO2 economy is also controlled by the illuminati, so prices become outrageous for no reason.

Its like investing into a casino, that you can play forever in. You invest in order to keep playing and hopefully become self-sufficient with your gambling money. But in PSO2...you never cash out.

No, the responses usually desired are compliments, as its a form of fishing for them.

AgemFrostMage
Aug 13, 2013, 08:22 AM
Very poor cash wise as I bought the new drake head and body, and pirate hat and suit before prices eventually go up or people discover the true value, but have some rare PA and techniques and 10 star weapons in inventory I can convert to meseta if I want. Though I actually plan on using most of the 10 star weapons for fighter/hunter.

Meji
Aug 13, 2013, 08:22 AM
Just above 200m here. Would surely hit around 500m if I started selling some stuff. >_>'

Enforcer MKV
Aug 13, 2013, 08:24 AM
Just above 200m here. Would surely hit around 500m if I started selling some stuff. >_>'

This post hurts my soul. <_<;;

AgemFrostMage
Aug 13, 2013, 08:27 AM
This post hurts my soul. <_<;;

Why? He saves good money and likely does the diligent Klotho client orders.

Aine
Aug 13, 2013, 08:30 AM
I joined the e-billionaire club a while ago
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1481&pictureid=36775

The e-caviar is delicious

Zyrusticae
Aug 13, 2013, 08:31 AM
The fuck, 90k FUN?

Spend some of that shit, mang!

hoangsea
Aug 13, 2013, 08:32 AM
200 million at the moment. Not too much...

man, you are so damn rich
nothing interest to slap your metesa on at the time ? :-D

BlankM
Aug 13, 2013, 08:33 AM
No, the responses usually desired are compliments, as its a form of fishing for them.

Uwaa people are casually answering the question which the thread asks. Thread's response:

"Nice job want a cookie or something?"

Z-0
Aug 13, 2013, 09:31 AM
I joined the e-billionaire club a while ago
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1481&pictureid=36775

The e-caviar is delicious
Man, I'm jealous. Unfortunately I'm too much of a wuss to gamble it out with Dudu (grind/affix for profit), so I generally just sell affixes clean from AQ to make money. Plus shop snipe. Affixes from AQ alone can make me a few million a day providing I play.

Tell me your seeeecreeeetttsss. ;_;

Zenobia
Aug 13, 2013, 09:34 AM
I joined the e-billionaire club a while ago
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1481&pictureid=36775

The e-caviar is delicious

Welll shit.....

gigawuts
Aug 13, 2013, 09:57 AM
The thing with dudu and the like is when you have enough money you can just eat the failure streaks to get to the winning streaks. When you're poor those failure streaks will break your bank and leave you unable to keep going. When you're rich enough you can power through a couple tough fails and roughly meet the average, then sell your handiwork for a hell of a nice profit - even accounting for the failures - because poor people can't afford to mass produce them.

Rien
Aug 13, 2013, 10:09 AM
So brute force the RNG?

gigawuts
Aug 13, 2013, 10:13 AM
Yes, exactly. Brute forcing the RNG is the best way to handle streaks in the long term. People will claim to have methods, and they may or may not work - I have no idea if they set up the game to consider certain factors - but generally yes you will have winning streaks and losing streaks with any RNG. Bad RNGs will have long streaks, and this game has some exceptionally long streaks if its truly meant to be "random" instead of considering factors that they haven't said anything about.

Things like changing blocks, waiting 24 hours, etc. These things shouldn't actually matter unless it's a very poorly set up system or designed to consider them without them ever saying so.

All of that aside - brute forcing the RNG is generally how you beat it, the problem is how long fail streaks can get in this game and how goddamn expensive it gets. To break it down: If you've failed 20 times in a row on a 50% chance affix (which I have) you may not be able to afford another 20, and that next 20 might succeed across the board.

BlankM
Aug 13, 2013, 10:17 AM
I don't think Aine Dudu's for all that...

"If you pretend Dudu doesn't exist its impossible to lose money"

gigawuts
Aug 13, 2013, 10:28 AM
Yeah that's how I play. You can't fail if you don't try!

Jaqlou Swig KING
Aug 13, 2013, 10:34 AM
I've had 1.7m for like 2 months. Highest I've had was around 19m.

ReaperTheAbsol
Aug 13, 2013, 10:43 AM
I can't hold onto Meseta worth a damn.

AgemFrostMage
Aug 13, 2013, 12:14 PM
Yeah that's how I play. You can't fail if you don't try!

What sucks is the game assumes you grind so you will be underpowered unless you grind =( Game should assume you have middle end equipment so you don't feel like you need the good stuff at max grind since everything otherwise feels too tanky.

Kondibon
Aug 13, 2013, 12:21 PM
What sucks is the game assumes you grind so you will be underpowered unless you grind =( Game should assume you have middle end equipment so you don't feel like you need the good stuff at max grind since everything otherwise feels too tanky.

I think what the game really needs is for there not to be such a big difference between vanilla gear and super +10 4 affixed 10 star gear. Only balancing the game for mid range gear would simply have the opposite effect and make all the people who go for maxing their gear get bored faster as they'd be killing stuff even easier than they are now.

MetalDude
Aug 13, 2013, 12:25 PM
During boost week, I invested in 4 slot Elder + Tech III + 2 fodders and won out fairly nicely. I don't do it anymore. The normal rates are fucking terrible. I was honestly hoping Episode 2 would at least attempt to make fixing less agonizing.

AgemFrostMage
Aug 13, 2013, 12:31 PM
I think what the game really needs is for there not to be such a big difference between vanilla gear and super +10 4 affixed 10 star gear. Only balancing the game for mid range gear would simply have the opposite effect and make all the people who go for maxing their gear get bored faster as they'd be killing stuff even easier than they are now.

But if there's not a big difference it takes away the cost benefit ratio of such a tough grind. If you have 1600 TATK and each technique does under that unless it's weak to the element then upgrading to a rod that gives 1800 TATK isn't giving much of a difference. I have a 53/50 Fo/Te with a +9 elder rod and while some things die fast others take too long to kill and I lasted the entire 20 minutes against Falz Elder. Since the "He's getting weaker" message didn't appear I didn't even know my progress on it =( I even sazonded hands and sometimes shocked and everything.

It is ludicrous for a dev to go: "The best equipment in the game is Technique IV units, doesn't matter which because defense sucks anyway, and the 650 TATK rods +10 grind. I'll assume every force will have it and make everything seem tanky for those who don't!" because one should work for an advantage, and it has to be significant enough to strive for.

Zyrusticae
Aug 13, 2013, 01:35 PM
I just feel like pointing out that they backload the bonuses from grinding intentionally to force you to pony up the money for AC scratch tickets to get more full protects and +20% grind boosts and shit like that. They don't really give a shit about balance as long as they can get that sweet, sweet moolah.

Requiem Aeternam
Aug 13, 2013, 01:43 PM
I have almost no money. Just over 1 million currently while the most I've ever had is just over 4 million >_>

I should really learn how to do TACOs but I really don't like that kind of thing and my equipment is pretty rubbish too.

Kondibon
Aug 13, 2013, 01:50 PM
I have almost no money. Just over 1 million currently while the most I've ever had is just over 4 million >_>

I should really learn how to do TACOs but I really don't like that kind of thing and my equipment is pretty rubbish too.

Tacos actually aren't that hard. I do them with crappy builds, 6* weapons, and a brisk walking pace just fine. Of course, I don't like them either... so I only do them when I actually want money for something specific.

Requiem Aeternam
Aug 13, 2013, 01:59 PM
Tacos actually aren't that hard. I do them with crappy builds, 6* weapons, and a brisk walking pace just fine. Of course, I don't like them either... so I only do them when I actually want money for something specific.

I guess I just suck at this game ^^; I was really bad at the first one so I gave up.

Kondibon
Aug 13, 2013, 02:03 PM
I guess I just suck at this game ^^; I was really bad at the first one so I gave up.

Well I guess I should say "once you know what you have to do they're easy". I just kinda find them boring and repetitive. Infact I think if you over level them you can just face roll them without even taking the shortcuts, but I dunno if that's true for VH since I'm only just now doing those.

gigawuts
Aug 13, 2013, 02:04 PM
Tacos are pretty much about standing on buttons, aside from nab II and sanctum. If you don't know where the buttons are or when to stand on them it's really going to suck.

Neferpitou
Aug 13, 2013, 02:11 PM
I refuse to go above 10m, if i see that number I buy something. So i sit around 6-9m most of the time.

electrolytes
Aug 13, 2013, 02:34 PM
I guess I just suck at this game ^^; I was really bad at the first one so I gave up.

Have a look at this: http://ohpso2.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Attacks
I don't know if it's 100% accurate, but imagine it might help quite a bit if you're starting off and are running them with others.

Requiem Aeternam
Aug 13, 2013, 02:46 PM
Well I guess I should say "once you know what you have to do they're easy". I just kinda find them boring and repetitive. Infact I think if you over level them you can just face roll them without even taking the shortcuts, but I dunno if that's true for VH since I'm only just now doing those.

That's what kind of puts me off running them. I probably won't do VHard until I hit Lv60 or so cause I still have trouble with some of the enemies, namely the Banthers.


Have a look at this: http://ohpso2.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Attacks
I don't know if it's 100% accurate, but imagine it might help quite a bit if you're starting off and are running them with others.

I'm running them solo but this does help me with what I'm supposed to do. Thanks a lot ^^ I guess now I just need to practice them but I've kind of lost all motivation to play right now.

strikerhunter
Aug 13, 2013, 02:59 PM
Tacos are pretty much about standing on buttons, aside from nab II and sanctum. If you don't know where the buttons are or when to stand on them it's really going to suck.

Actually all of them have buttons, just that Sanctum and Nab II doesn't use them to create shortcuts.

gigawuts
Aug 13, 2013, 03:28 PM
Which means

Those two aren't pretty much about standing on buttons

Like I said

Cortte
Aug 13, 2013, 04:06 PM
The thing that baffles the hell out of me is the people who have 200 mill + saying it is not enough. I have decent at best end game gear and weapons I am okay with. If I had that money I would get the best possible gear for myself and still have probably 150 mill left over. What the hell do you guys spend it on once you reach end game lol.

gigawuts
Aug 13, 2013, 04:12 PM
Bathing suits and stockings, mostly.

Cortte
Aug 13, 2013, 04:13 PM
Yeah my wife is the same way with her spending in the game. Costumes for each season lol. Typically when I find the costume I like the most I'll stick with it till I quit the game. It's very unlikely that I'll change costumes. But come to think of it. That is probably why I am also poor. No extra motivation beyond making better gear.

D-Inferno
Aug 13, 2013, 04:29 PM
40 million atm here.

Zipzo
Aug 13, 2013, 04:31 PM
I generally spend all my money on costumes, mag devices to match my new favorite costumes, accessories, grinding things to +10, buying *10s to up the elements of my favorite weapons, and giving my stuff decent basic affixes.

I play every single class combination in the game, and I frequently swap, I simply don't have the funds after all those things to have x4 affixes on every single piece of armor and weapon for every single class.

I 1-2 shot WB'd VH bosses just fine on my 60/60 BR/HU and my Braver gear is only Soul + III affixed across the board.

Dextro
Aug 13, 2013, 04:51 PM
The thing that baffles the hell out of me is the people who have 200 mill + saying it is not enough. I have decent at best end game gear and weapons I am okay with. If I had that money I would get the best possible gear for myself and still have probably 150 mill left over.

Well, think of it this way:

Affixing a typical set of 2 or 3 slot gear with a budget of 10mil might be easily affordable, but if the RNG doesn't like you, and you fail a bunch of times, most of that money vanishes and you're left to keep throwing more money at it until you succeed.

The same thing still applies for people in the 100m+ bracket, only our 'standard' would be 4 or 5 slot gear.
I posted this a while back during the campaign period: http://imgur.com/a/P1gKk
Just this bunch of innocent affix fails like this set me back about 30mil, and that resulted in nothing actually being made, so the whole process starts over from scratch.

Having so much money only makes you comfortable doing the ordinary stuff that others usually do, like buying occasional accessories, the occasional 10* weapon, putting together some regular 2-3slot stuff, and little more financial freedom when it comes to grinding.

For any luxuries that you'd assume 'rich people' to have such as 4 slot gear and whatnot, trust me when I say we're not living in absolute comfort when we try and put some of that stuff together. Because you can blow through 100mil like it's nothing on this stupid RNG alone.

RadiantLegend
Aug 13, 2013, 06:17 PM
In life there are the wealthy, the rich, the average, and the poor. It appears PSO2 is the same way and where do I fall?

._. average.

Zenobia
Aug 13, 2013, 08:11 PM
Well, think of it this way:

Affixing a typical set of 2 or 3 slot gear with a budget of 10mil might be easily affordable, but if the RNG doesn't like you, and you fail a bunch of times, most of that money vanishes and you're left to keep throwing more money at it until you succeed.

The same thing still applies for people in the 100m+ bracket, only our 'standard' would be 4 or 5 slot gear.
I posted this a while back during the campaign period: http://imgur.com/a/P1gKk
Just this bunch of innocent affix fails like this set me back about 30mil, and that resulted in nothing actually being made, so the whole process starts over from scratch.

Having so much money only makes you comfortable doing the ordinary stuff that others usually do, like buying occasional accessories, the occasional 10* weapon, putting together some regular 2-3slot stuff, and little more financial freedom when it comes to grinding.

For any luxuries that you'd assume 'rich people' to have such as 4 slot gear and whatnot, trust me when I say we're not living in absolute comfort when we try and put some of that stuff together. Because you can blow through 100mil like it's nothing on this stupid RNG alone.

So much truth in this its a shame.

Z-0
Aug 13, 2013, 08:31 PM
What bothers me is that there's not much of a middle ground really. 10m for a 3 slot unit set seems pretty reasonable, but when you want to make a 4 slot unit set, you could be looking at costs of around 50 million, especially since Ability is not a 100% success rate no matter what you do.

I might have 200 million, but I don't feel comfortable with it if I want to gear all my classes with 4 slot unit sets and some of the more "endgame" gear, because everything is ridiculously expensive at that point.

Honestly at this point though, I'm just stockpiling meseta for the next difficulty. I don't touch scratches so it's not too hard for me.

TaigaUC
Aug 13, 2013, 09:50 PM
The most I've had on a single account is around 21 million. In total of all my accounts, I think the most I've had is around 50 million. My friend who is luckier than I currently has 40 million on their main.
That money is mostly the result of selling affixes, a few good rare drops, or costumes that have gone up in price. We're too sick of TACOs and don't do them anymore. Most of my meseta ends up going to costumes and hairstyles/accessories that I regret purchasing, because I couldn't tell if they looked good or not. The rest goes to terrible grinding/affix luck.

Just the other day, I blew over 3 million trying to get the all class katana and bow to +10, even with grind risk reductions. Did the same thing on two other accounts for less than 100k. Then there are the times I've had +10% and +1 grind risk reductions fail repeatedly at going from +9 to +10, over and over. Crap like that happens all the time. Perfect example of how random luck heavily influences whether a person suddenly ends up rich or poor. If you get lucky, the boost in strength helps you get luckier faster and more often. If you don't get lucky, you end up broke and you have to rely even more on luck. So many levels of RNG that can completely and suddenly screw anyone over. Shitty system.

Also reminds me of when I was trying to get a shop ticket to sell my wedding dress for 20 million and navigator's suit for 5 million, but SEGA suddenly decided to revive them, dropping both their prices to nothing. Or when I put up two Amaterasus hoping to get rid of them quickly for ~20 million each, and for some reason all of the Amaterasus on market sold except mine. Or when people spent ~70 million on the Border Break sword camo, only to have SEGA destroy the price by changing the drop rate a week or two later. The sad thing is those people likely paid real money to earn 70 million. SEGA has the power to suddenly define the real money you spend as worth nothing in-game, without warning.

Outside of some foresight, grinding TACOs or buying/selling AC items, earning money in PSO2 is about being lucky as hell and hoping you don't get screwed by stupid crap like the above.
Oh, and none of the good drops I ever got were the result of any kind of rare drop boost tickets. Everytime my friends and I used +50% to +500% rare drop boosts, we never ever got anything valuable.

BlankM
Aug 14, 2013, 11:38 AM
What bothers me is that there's not much of a middle ground really. 10m for a 3 slot unit set seems pretty reasonable, but when you want to make a 4 slot unit set, you could be looking at costs of around 50 million, especially since Ability is not a 100% success rate no matter what you do.

I might have 200 million, but I don't feel comfortable with it if I want to gear all my classes with 4 slot unit sets and some of the more "endgame" gear, because everything is ridiculously expensive at that point.

Honestly at this point though, I'm just stockpiling meseta for the next difficulty. I don't touch scratches so it's not too hard for me.

This brings me back to the "Someone needs to submit a japanese ticket about affixes" thread. That was where I first realized I needed to start trying to make some money...

And yet today this problem still persists in the game. Prices just multiply so easily from 3s to 4s. I really hope SEGA brings back those boost items because they were really useful.

It also doesn't help that the 4s fodder market is not very competitive. So finding decently priced materials is not as easy.

Bellion
Aug 14, 2013, 11:56 AM
I'm glad they introduced those boosts and I also hope they bring them back soon. Playing around with Ability 3 in a 4+ slot affix is not exactly meseta friendly for a unit set. OTL