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Nulve
Aug 21, 2013, 06:07 AM
I've spent about 3 million trying to grind a 10* weapon to +10, including buying grinders, success rates, risk reductions.

It simply won't get to 10 and I'm at a complete loss on what to do next. I was thinking of selling the weapon while I still have a shop and getting like half of what I wasted on it.

Edit: Is there like some strategy to grinding that I'm missing?

hoangsea
Aug 21, 2013, 06:13 AM
you should use that "nani yo kane Fk you" SA after each fail :D

KazukiQZ
Aug 21, 2013, 06:22 AM
I just feel Dudu like to fail the grind, at least for me.
So I always do the grinding process with Monica.

Ordy
Aug 21, 2013, 06:23 AM
Here is what I usually do to grind my 10*

+0 to +7 ----> Nothing
+7 to +8 ----> Grind Risk Reduction (+1)
+8 to +10 --> Grind Risk Reduction (+1) and Grind Success Rate +5% or +10%

Not the safest, but it's a cost-efficient way to grind 10*

Shinamori
Aug 21, 2013, 06:25 AM
Here's what I do.

+0-6+: Nothing
+7-+8: Grind Risk Reduction (+1)
+8 or greater: Full Protect.

Nulve
Aug 21, 2013, 06:27 AM
Here is what I usually do to grind my 10*

+0 to +7 ----> Nothing
+7 to +8 ----> Grind Risk Reduction (+1)
+8 to +10 --> Grind Risk Reduction (+1) and Grind Success Rate +5% or +10%

Not the safest, but it's a cost-efficient way to grind 10*

That's literally exactly what I was doing.

FacelessRed
Aug 21, 2013, 06:31 AM
No, you just stumbled into my Zone. The Bad Luck Zone. Welcome, enjoy your stay, and maybe like me you will never see a +10 10* weapon you + with your own hands.

Nulve
Aug 21, 2013, 06:33 AM
+8 or greater: Full Protect.

I've wasted about 4 full protects on 8-9's and 9-10's so far, so have stopped buying them.

Nulve
Aug 21, 2013, 06:41 AM
Wow, I fail so bad, that the grind even goes all the way back to +1

TaigaUC
Aug 21, 2013, 06:42 AM
I've spent about 3+ million trying to grind 7*, 8* and 10* weapons to +10, including buying grinders, success rates, risk reductions.
Then I did the same things on two other characters for less than 100k. Random luck sucks.

All I can say is, just keep trying with +1 and +5%/+10%.
If you're not having any luck, try taking a break, or even trying a different block (probably doesn't matter, but I do it anyway).

Limbo_lag
Aug 21, 2013, 06:57 AM
^ Pretty much this. It'll vary a lot, just be patient and you'll eventually hit +10. I've wasted 2mil+ trying to grind a red launcher back when they were worth something, and recently blew through 6m+ to +10 Ruins mirage. Its not uncommon to have loooong streaks of failures :/

UnLucky
Aug 21, 2013, 07:30 AM
That's literally exactly what I was doing.

Well that's the "trick" so just keep trying. That's just how it is. It's all up to random chance.

Though if you're running out of money, stop at +8-9 and sit on it for a bit. That one extra grind isn't that much of a boost, and it's better than +1 if you're trying to use the thing.

Hosaka
Aug 21, 2013, 07:34 AM
I don't use full protects anymore. They really only serve to make fails even more costly. My basic strategy is to go with what Ordy posted, but I change blocks if I get 3 fails in a row. May just be superstition, but whatever.

I also only let Dudu grind for me. Monica is for affixing. Again, probably my own superstition, but this has worked for me pretty well (especially Monica with affixing).

Scotty T
Aug 21, 2013, 09:44 AM
I spent less than 200k grinding my Rikalbari to +10, of course I used 10% and +2 risks at +8. You must be very unlucky :P

Edit: I forgot to mention I had Monica do it, seems she's not as evil as Dudu after all.

blinddagger
Aug 21, 2013, 09:45 AM
I feel like it helps only to carry 20-30 grinders at a time, yesterday and the day bwfore i got a 10* +10 for my force, both with crappy affixes but still

Shirokami
Aug 21, 2013, 10:47 AM
Sometimes the game decides that a certain weapon of yours won't get to +10, happened to me with a shitty 7*
Grinded several 8* and 9* easily, the 7* never got over +7
Monica fails tons, but Dudu succeeds pretty well.
Also, Monica's voice is way too annoying.

Zipzo
Aug 21, 2013, 10:50 AM
I keep failing a grind

...said everybody playing PSO2 ever.

loool
Aug 21, 2013, 12:26 PM
Monica is the devil of grinding. I wouldn't let her touch my weapon after what she did. 3mil and it wouldn't even past +7 on a 7*, like WTF! Dudu ending up saving the day. Like what the other person posted, if I fail to much then I'll wait or change block.

Zipzo
Aug 21, 2013, 01:02 PM
Honestly, grinding at Monica feels a little like this except with meseta...

http://i.imgur.com/QgJUL.gif

jooozek
Aug 21, 2013, 01:07 PM
the sausages are more fitting honestly

Chdata
Aug 21, 2013, 01:30 PM
I've spent about 3 million trying to grind a 10* weapon to +10, including buying grinders, success rates, risk reductions.

It simply won't get to 10 and I'm at a complete loss on what to do next. I was thinking of selling the weapon while I still have a shop and getting like half of what I wasted on it.

Edit: Is there like some strategy to grinding that I'm missing?

I never have problems grinding really. I just grinded a 10star weapon for 700k, where 400k of the cost was +1 grind risks and a +10% (which I had many extra of afterwards) I used on the 10th grind that costed 200k.

The +1 grind reductions help a ton for 7-10 though. Use them.

Yamishi
Aug 21, 2013, 01:41 PM
Here's my process:
- 0 to 6: Nothing
- 7 to 9: Nothing
- 10: Nothing
- Weep

Csero
Aug 21, 2013, 02:03 PM
Here's my process:
- 0 to 6: Nothing
- 7 to 9: Nothing
- 10: Nothing
- Weep

Use this one as well. Worked for my Neiclaws. 10*s though...

isCasted
Aug 21, 2013, 03:57 PM
So, different success calculation algorithms for different lab clerks confirmed?

Zipzo
Aug 21, 2013, 05:40 PM
So, different success calculation algorithms for different lab clerks confirmed?

It can only be 100% speculation, with very little means to even justify that speculation. Do what you want, really.

Lostbob117
Aug 21, 2013, 05:48 PM
Never spent over a mill to grind a 10* to +10 yet.

PandaRehab
Aug 21, 2013, 06:20 PM
I rambo +10 everything. Luck too stronk

AlaskanKactus
Aug 21, 2013, 08:21 PM
I just keep grinding until my weapon reaches +10. No reductions, no protections.

I put all of my trust into Dudu. Spent about 200k on maxing out a unit recently.

hoangsea
Aug 22, 2013, 12:39 AM
0->10* use nothing
often done at 200-500k when i grind my 10* weapons
grind units is alot easier though :D

loool
Aug 22, 2013, 12:50 AM
0->10* use nothing
often done at 200-500k when i grind my 10* weapons
grind units is alot easier though :D

Unit are different from weapon. It is easier. I grind an 11* Unit with no reduction and still got +10 with less then 200k.

Laga
Aug 22, 2013, 01:10 AM
this might actually piss alot of people off... but I dont use anything to Grind other than the grinder itself... get +10 on 10* all the time without actually wasting more than 15 grinders in the process. I think Dudu might be sweet on my character.

EDIT: now that I look back at the last part on this post... Dudu sweet on my character sounds pretty nasty.

Ouranos
Aug 22, 2013, 01:34 AM
Spent 3 mil on Elder Fist +10, 1.5 mil on Lava Seeker +10 lvl 1 potential and 700K on Nishiki +10 lvl 1 potential. I used 60+ -1 grind risk. The elder fist grind hurt the most and this all happened within 30 mins.

Zipzo
Aug 22, 2013, 07:48 AM
I just keep grinding until my weapon reaches +10. No reductions, no protections.

I put all of my trust into Dudu. Spent about 200k on maxing out a unit recently.

10* Units are significantly easier to +10 than 10* weapons. If you're referring to non 10*'s then your input is pointless anyway.


this might actually piss alot of people off... but I dont use anything to Grind other than the grinder itself... get +10 on 10* all the time without actually wasting more than 15 grinders in the process. I think Dudu might be sweet on my character.

EDIT: now that I look back at the last part on this post... Dudu sweet on my character sounds pretty nasty.

Yeah. You're a liar.

gigawuts
Aug 22, 2013, 07:49 AM
I've +10'd a 10* with 0 failures, where do I collect my epeen prize?

Horo The Wise Wolf
Aug 22, 2013, 07:51 AM
I've +10'd a 10* with 0 failures, where do I collect my epeen prize?

You get 2x 10% Affixing bonuses as a reward! Maybe even 3 more or a few 50% Triboosts too! Thank you for you effort fellow ARKS member, and fight on!