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ChaosAngel92
Aug 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
Since I was looking forward to play mostly as a braver, I decided to go for the pure DEX mag,
Eventually after hitting level 30 my mag transformed to a Antila.

My mag is currently at level 43 pure DEX, but I fell in love of the Cygnus.
My question is, at this stage where I am with level 43 on DEX, is there any way to add some other stats in order to achieve the last one? Or should I just give up and start again with a fresh mag?
If the answer is yes to the second one, what stats should I add in order to achieve DEX equal or greater to the Strike Damage att?

I'm looking trough http://cirnopedia.frostsabre.com/mag_overview.php for helpful information but I just don't get it.

strikerhunter
Aug 29, 2013, 06:36 PM
Can't see image to see what MAG you are targeting for to give an understanding of how you should raise your mag.

Variant
Aug 29, 2013, 06:42 PM
http://file.pso2pso2.syoyu.net/pso2maguEnglish

Try that to simulate how your mag will evolve.

Edit:

Here's your 43 DEX mag: http://file.pso2pso2.syoyu.net/pso2maguEnglish?d1;*42; (hit the Done button and just hit enter through the dialogs).

ChaosAngel92
Aug 29, 2013, 06:45 PM
Something went wrong with the images.
Anyway the mag I have is Antila, and the one I want to achieve is Cygnus.

strikerhunter
Aug 29, 2013, 06:54 PM
Start feeding it Range and Melee weapons to increase S and R-atk. However the trick is that S-atk must be higher than both R-atk and Dex but the less than R-atk and Dex combined to get Cygnus.

ChaosAngel92
Aug 29, 2013, 07:03 PM
Start feeding it Range and Melee weapons to increase S and R-atk. However the trick is that S-atk must be higher than both R-atk and Dex but the less than R-atk and Dex combined.

Using my wondeful math skills, that means there is no way to obtain Cygnus without S atk dominating the stats, no?

TheAstarion
Aug 29, 2013, 07:08 PM
From your 43 DEX...

Rush to 50 Strike (S-atk probably) to make strike the dominant stat. Last 7 points in Range (R-atk), but do these absolutely last. With exactly 50 (47) points in s-atk it should evolve into Lyra at lv90.

Should evolve into Cygnus at 105, no matter what you level after lv100, if it has -some- r-atk and 50+ s-atk. The reason it won't evolve at 100 is because it's kinda confused at this point, but by 105 it'll look back and realise there was nothing else you could have chosen.

Final stats could be 50 s-atk. 25 r-atk, 100 dex, if you like the numbers nice and round. Mas S-atk is 87 at lv175 to keep Cygnus; if you keep s-atk below half the total level you will be fine.

strikerhunter
Aug 29, 2013, 07:08 PM
Using my wondeful math skills, that means there is no way to obtain Cygnus without S atk dominating the stats, no?

S-atk must be the dominating stats while R-atk and Dex must be lower but R-atk and Dex with their numbers combined must be higher than S-atk

Ex: 5 is more than 4 and 3 but 4+3 is more than 5.

5 being S-atk, 4 being R-atk, and 3 being dex.




Final stats could be 50 s-atk. 25 r-atk, 100 dex, if you like the numbers nice and round. Mas S-atk is 87 at lv175 to keep Cygnus; if you keep s-atk below half the total level you will be fine.

That won't work because he'll end up with Crux because S/R atk totals 75.

S-atk has to be the dominate one.

IzzyData
Aug 29, 2013, 07:21 PM
It is possible to do with only 11 striking.

Notice here I have 11 in tech to make tech the highest stat at 30. 10 in striking and then 9 in dex. Then to avoid it turning into a striking mag I level striking and dex at the same time to skip from increments of 5 and 0 to 1 and 6.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58437091/PSO2/CastMag.PNGhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58437091/PSO2/KarinaMag.PNG

Honestly I thought they would fix this exploit, but it still works just fine as I am remaking this mag for a different account.

TheAstarion
Aug 29, 2013, 07:35 PM
That won't work because he'll end up with Crux because S/R atk totals 75.

Um, no? Once it's on the strike path post-100, it will always be strike. Once it's on a non-dex path, dex doesn't affect the evolution, so it'll look at the stats and say "Oh, s-atk less than half the total level? Better look at the next stat... Dex? Idontgiveaflick... R-atk? 25? Good enough for me!" and be a S-atk main, R-atk sub mag.

Cygnus.

ChaosAngel92
Aug 29, 2013, 07:41 PM
It is possible to do with only 11 striking.

Notice here I have 11 in tech to make tech the highest stat at 30. 10 in striking and then 9 in dex. Then to avoid it turning into a striking mag I level striking and dex at the same time to skip from increments of 5 and 0 to 1 and 6.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58437091/PSO2/CastMag.PNGhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58437091/PSO2/KarinaMag.PNG

Honestly I thought they would fix this exploit, but it still works just fine as I am remaking this mag for a different account.

But that in my case would translate to 11 in Ranged, 10 in Striking and 9 in Dex, and then leveling up Strike and Dex at the same time.
I want to achieve the lowest on Ranged and the Lowest in Striking in order to make my mag more or less a useful Braver Mag, beign DEX the dominant stat.

IzzyData
Aug 29, 2013, 07:47 PM
True, but you could do it with around 30 ranged and 11 striking. Leaving you 120+ in dex. At least r-atk and s-atk are still useful for a braver.

strikerhunter
Aug 29, 2013, 09:04 PM
Um, no? Once it's on the strike path post-100, it will always be strike. Once it's on a non-dex path, dex doesn't affect the evolution, so it'll look at the stats and say "Oh, s-atk less than half the total level? Better look at the next stat... Dex? Idontgiveaflick... R-atk? 25? Good enough for me!" and be a S-atk main, R-atk sub mag.

Cygnus.

*smacks head* Forgot bout Dex one and keep remembering the others.

ChaosAngel92
Aug 29, 2013, 10:12 PM
http://file.pso2pso2.syoyu.net/pso2maguEnglish

Try that to simulate how your mag will evolve.

Edit:

Here's your 43 DEX mag: http://file.pso2pso2.syoyu.net/pso2maguEnglish?d1;*42; (hit the Done button and just hit enter through the dialogs).

Thanks for the website, didn't knew about its existance.


From your 43 DEX...

Rush to 50 Strike (S-atk probably) to make strike the dominant stat. Last 7 points in Range (R-atk), but do these absolutely last. With exactly 50 (47) points in s-atk it should evolve into Lyra at lv90.

Should evolve into Cygnus at 105, no matter what you level after lv100, if it has -some- r-atk and 50+ s-atk. The reason it won't evolve at 100 is because it's kinda confused at this point, but by 105 it'll look back and realise there was nothing else you could have chosen.

Final stats could be 50 s-atk. 25 r-atk, 100 dex, if you like the numbers nice and round. Mas S-atk is 87 at lv175 to keep Cygnus; if you keep s-atk below half the total level you will be fine.


Start feeding it Range and Melee weapons to increase S and R-atk. However the trick is that S-atk must be higher than both R-atk and Dex but the less than R-atk and Dex combined to get Cygnus.

Combining both of your ideas, I managed to get a decent build out of the website.
Here is the plan, raise DEX till 46.
Raise Strike till 49, then it should be level till 95.
The last five levels in Range stats, and according to all the infromation gathered, and the website provided, I should get my desired mag.

IzzyData
Aug 29, 2013, 10:22 PM
I don't know why you are even bothering when double leveling exploit is vastly superior. Feel free to put 50 s-atk on your mag when you dont want any though.

ChaosAngel92
Aug 29, 2013, 10:41 PM
I don't know why you are even bothering when double leveling exploit is vastly superior. Feel free to put 50 s-atk on your mag when you dont want any though.

I'm braver, but I also plan to play as a Hunter soon or later.
(After all its my sub class), so I figured out to have a more or less balanced mag beetwen Dex and Strike than pure DEX, since that would take care of having a second mag.

Also I need to restart my mag If I want to follow your plan, and I need real money for that witch I dont have.

IzzyData
Aug 29, 2013, 11:16 PM
Ah, I was under the impression you'd be starting from scratch. If you ever do come across some money to put into the game it's good to know that it is the cheapest item at 300 yen or 3 dollars.

TheAstarion
Aug 30, 2013, 06:39 AM
Lowest you can do it, according to mag sim, is 45 strike, 5 range, 50 dex at 100, 125 dex at max. Rush to 45 strike, then the range, then dex forever after. So says mag sim anyway. You'll evolve into Lyra at 90, and make sure to keep dex below strike at 95... after that it's locked into the striking route.

125 is respectable, and more than some people who claim to have a pure mag have... giving 62 to each stat with braver mag lv5. So 107 s-atk, 67 r-atk, instead of a pure mag's 87 each.


Of course, You'll be slightly biased in favour of strike, but since most BRs are BRHU anyway, that helps with any allclass hunter stuff you may wish to dabble in too.