The Official Super Hard Time Attack Records

[Kamekur]

Bye bye, Very Hard!

Welcome, Super Hard!

Rules were kinda fine as they were, but I introduced some changes. So:

Rules


-1. Times must be posted in this thread in some way or another.

Videos are preferred. Not just because it's the best way to prove a time, but because I think everyone agrees that a video is far more enjoyable. If for some reason you aren't able to record your run, a screenshot is fine. The reason of this is because of certain players *coughcoughTearDropzcoughcough* can register illegit times. Anything is allowed as long as it's achieved with normal game input.
Yeah, that means dashing is allowed.

If the time is fishy, a recorded re-run will be required. Your time won't be posted as long as you can get a similar time, hence demonstrating you can do that time by yourself/ves.

NPC's are not allowed for runs. I don't think I really need to explain why.

Ah, and clearly you need to be doing Super Hard (derp). When the next difficulty level is released, old times will be linked in the new thread just like this (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205788).

Boss times will be measured basing as starting time when your character can start moving after the cutscene, and as finish time, when the game registers the kill (exp pops out).


-2. Input altering programs ARE allowed.

IE macros, joy2key, what have you. These, in my opinion, do not alter the game enough to be considered cheating. These only apply input that was already possible, albeit with precision and swiftness a mere human may not be able to achieve. Somewhat of a gray area, but for the sake of this they are NOT considered cheating.


-3. Play nice.

We're here to compete to the best of our ability or watch others do so. We don't need to go outright insulting people. You think some guy is slow and you can do the run better? Awesome. Prove it. Fight with your times, not your words. Bickering can go elsewhere. If you have anything to say, be constructive. If what are you going to say isn't nice, just shut up.


-4. Time Copyright and Right of Property (lolwut)

I'll explain. In the previous thread, someone compared unnecessarily two classes in their damage potential. That's NOT constructive(read above), and just silly. This also led to another user linking someone else's video to prove the first person's argument (and I repeat, pointlessly). Aside from the silly argument it afterwards led, the owner of the linked video got quite annoyed about his video being posted without his consent.

So let's go to the rule:

No one, without exceptions, will be allowed to post someone else's video. Everyone's in their right to do whatever they want with their work and property.
Only the owner the video, will be able to publish it here.


-5. Posting format

Because things might get messy. I obviously don't know everyone, and much less your IDs/character names (especially if they're written in kanji/hiragana/katakana).

So the posting format will be this:

Name of quest and amount of players//Boss (If you're posting multiple runs, put the info on each of them.)

Player ID - Character Name - Class/Subclass - Time (optional, I will check it anyways)

[Spoilerbox]Link of video // Link of image.[Spoilerbox]

For example...

Naberius II TA 1 Player // Vol Dragon

Kamekur - 茜泉 - Fi/Hu - 7:65
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch/tryhardblablabla // imgur.com/tryhard[/SPOILER-BOX]

Embedding your videos obviously works too.

Anything that's not posted within this format will NOT be posted. I believe it takes less effort for the poster than the OP (especially when there's multiple runs of multiple people) to do this.



Time Attacks

Multi: 3+ Players
[spoiler-box]
Marathon Training: Naberius 　・　走破演習：ナベリウス

Marathon Training: Naberius 2　・　走破演習：ナベリウスⅡ

Marathon Training: Lillipa ・ 走破演習：リリーパ

Marathon Training: Amduscia ・ 走破演習：アムドゥスキア

Abduction Darker's Den ・ アブダクション ■？●■？■● ■？●？●■

Breakthrough Practice : Dragon Altar ・ 突破演習：龍祭壇

1. Kamekur - 茜泉 - Fi/Hu, Akatora - Sen - Fi/Hu, ChickenHunter - Chicken - Fi/Hu, Ansereris - Syhon - Ra/Hu - 4:02
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/lomnQqe.jpg?1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY0f_gSKtc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY0f_gSKtc
[/SPOILER-BOX]

[/spoiler-box]

Duo: 2 Players
[spoiler-box]
Marathon Training: Naberius 　・　走破演習：ナベリウス

Marathon Training: Naberius 2　・　走破演習：ナベリウスⅡ

Marathon Training: Lillipa ・ 走破演習：リリーパ

Marathon Training: Amduscia ・ 走破演習：アムドゥスキア

Abduction Darker's Den ・ アブダクション ■？●■？■● ■？●？●■

Breakthrough Practice : Dragon Altar ・ 突破演習：龍祭壇

[/spoiler-box]

Solo: 1 Player
[spoiler-box]
Marathon Training: Naberius 　・　走破演習：ナベリウス

-Melee

-Ranged

-Tech


Marathon Training: Naberius 2　・　走破演習：ナベリウスⅡ

-Melee

1.jiasu73 - Tomia - BrHu - 4:48
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvbP690MEI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvbP690MEI[/SPOILER-BOX][/QUOTE]

-Ranged

1. GM - ヂノ - GuHu - 4:54
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.twitch.tv/gmcustom/c/3335074
[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - GuHu - 7:20
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJb9BJpwKCw[/SPOILER-BOX]


-Tech

1. GiroEX - Giro - Te/Fi - 4:33

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isuSH_Ye5fg[/SPOILER-BOX][/QUOTE]

2. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack - FoBr - 7:21
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLhuglW7ps[/spoiler-box]


Marathon Training: Lillipa ・ 走破演習：リリーパ

-Melee

-Ranged

-Tech

Marathon Training: Amduscia ・ 走破演習：アムドゥスキア

-Melee

-Ranged

1. GM - ヂノ - GuHu - 11:42
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.twitch.tv/gmcustom/c/3374508[/SPOILER-BOX]

-Tech

1. Shadowth117 - Neobackpack - Fo/Br - 12:36

[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHm40OY2UQ[/spoiler-box]

Abduction Darker's Den ・ アブダクション ■？●■？■● ■？●？●■


-Melee

-Ranged

1 . GM - ヂノ - Gu/Hu - 29:13
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/iTs3APv.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

2 . OrderRenji - ash - Gu/Hu - 35:42
[SPOILER-BOX]http://t3.pixhost.org/thumbs/4120/19703546_pso20131205_180702_000.jpg (http://www.pixhost.org/show/4120/19703546_pso20131205_180702_000.jpg)
[/SPOILER-BOX]


-Tech

Arks Battle Championship!　・　アークス戦技大会！

-Melee

-Ranged

-Tech

Breakthrough Practice : Dragon Altar ・ 突破演習：龍祭壇

-Melee

1. Ansereris - .helena - Fi/Hu - 6:22

[spoiler-box]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJlxsfrBJ3c[/spoiler-box][/QUOTE]

-Ranged

-Tech


[/spoiler-box]


-Log commentary file:

23/10/13: You might ask: Why are you managing this thread and not Shadowth117? And why are you literally copying the format of his thread?
-Well, this decision had been settled between him and me a month ago. I consider myself someone who enjoys TAs, and I constantly checked the old thread, excited to see new times posted, so, why not? It just happened, I took charge of it.
The reason I took his format to make the thread is because it is the one we all are used to already. It's also clear and concise, so why change it?
It definitely sounds better than outright saying that I was just lazy.

24/10/13: So, we have all fields now, but we didn't get SH TAs. Why? To have something to release (drip) this October - November? Oh well, guess we'll only be filling the boss section for a while. I also edited my post a bit, to fix engrish. Seriously, this kind of bullshit makes me feel that rushing to have this thread ready before the update was a waste of time.

[Kamekur]

Boss Time Attacks

Solo: 1 Player
[spoiler-box]
Rockbear　・　ロックベア

1. Rupee - Nexus - Gu/Ra - 0:15
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQmMhIr6-2U[/spoiler-box]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:21
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbFe90LSuY[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Agus D Prasetyo - 明石篠 - BrHu - 0:35
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O92RWJSLuE4[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 0:47
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48InV49m5QQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48InV49m5QQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

5. Chiffon-san - Chiffon - Fo/Fi - 1:48

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO4FwHD4eXw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO4FwHD4eXw[/SPOILER-BOX]

Fang Twins　・　ファング・ツインズ

Caterdra'n　・　キャタドラン

1. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:38
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbqAVRs-uRo[/SPOILER-BOX]


Vol Dragon　・　ヴォル・ドラゴン

1. Rupee - Nexus - Gu/Ra - 0:41
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTvIw7Ho0GA[/spoiler-box][/QUOTE]

2. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:45
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZnPQ8nMX18"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZnPQ8nMX18[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Meji - Meji - Fi/Hu - 0:58
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juABhveNcRg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juABhveNcRg[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu 1:01
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cavi4Qdp4zk[/SPOILER-BOX]

5. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 3:11
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPpMVtrRI7Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPpMVtrRI7Y[/SPOILER-BOX]


Gwanahda　・　グワナーダ

1. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:08
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhN9CFi6Izs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhN9CFi6Izs[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu 0:33
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyI8bAE4e4[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. salvatorerosa - ホロ - Fi/Hu - :56
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQBggODCls
[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 1:00
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIAfP7c2spU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIAfP7c2spU[/SPOILER-BOX]

5. Chiffon-san - Chiffon - Fo/Fi - 2:43
[SPOILER-BOX]youtube.com/watch?v=V7VS3FDLt60[/SPOILER-BOX]


Del Malmoth　・　デ・マルモス

1. Rupee - Nexus - Gu/Ra
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhSmve1B_dM[/spoiler-box]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:38
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK0spcfYbmQ[/SPOILER-BOX]


Snow Twins　・　スノウ・ツインズ

1. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:30
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrkx7w1TaI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrkx7w1TaI[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 1:06
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Xf_ep8yEk[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2:28
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y77julBe3xs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y77julBe3xs[/SPOILER-BOX]

Tranmizer　・　トランマイザー

1. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:22
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clcg6am2jGY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clcg6am2jGY[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:25
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHiiVVRABHc[/SPOILER-BOX]

Big Vardha　・　ビッグヴァーダー

Caterdra'nsa　・　キャタドランサ

1. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:26
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmLYwQlJz5w[/SPOILER-BOX]


Quartz Dragon　・　クォーツ・ドラゴン

1. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:12
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxh-vgTTmmQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxh-vgTTmmQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:45
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Tp9KrF7sQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2:15
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTjslI_k5k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTjslI_k5k[/SPOILER-BOX]

Wolgahda　・　ウォルガーダ

1. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:21
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZ87o5a27s[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. SakoHaruo - Sula - FiHu - 0:30
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcXegVbLHA[/spoiler-box][/QUOTE]

Zeshrayda　・　ゼシュレイダ

1. Bellion - メルカリア - Fi/Hu - 0:45
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSRYmvTlpw[/SPOILER-BOX]

Dark Ragne　・　ダーク・ラグネ

1. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:37
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Mrt_3gdgc[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Dnd - Nina - Fi/Hu 0:54
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeJ4PApas9s[/SPOILER-BOX]

Falz Arms　・　ファルス・アーム

Dark Falz Elder　・　ダークファルス・エルダー

Chrome Dragon　・　クローム・ドラゴン

Goronzoran　・　ゴロンゾラン

1. Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:26
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvDc6qy05Is[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:32
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9z8Q3BiNI[/SPOILER-BOX]

Dragon Ex　・　ドラゴン・エクス

1.Milranduil - Mireyuna - Hu/Br - 0:29
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXXLUnRW78
[/spoiler-box]

2. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:48
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8C9FS3SeUM[/SPOILER-BOX]

3. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2:43
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuNZQgeBsFA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuNZQgeBsFA[/SPOILER-BOX]

Org Blan　・　 オルグブラン

1. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu - 0:36
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzldrGwthM[/SPOILER-BOX]

Bal Rodos　・　バル・ロドス

Varder Soma　・　ヴァーダーソーマ

Blu Ringahda　・　ブリュー・リンガーダ

1. Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - Gu/Hu

Decol Malluda ・　デコル・マリューダ　

1. Bellion - Caprus - RaHu - 0:29 (Rare)
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

2. SakoHaruo - Sula - FiHu - 0:30
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNtGAeFMCg[/spoiler-box]

3. Kamekur - 茜泉 - FiHu - 0:31
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtQHwCg5iiM[/SPOILER-BOX]

4. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 0:46
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8vTZEquj4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8vTZEquj4[/SPOILER-BOX]

Biol Meduna　 ・ ビオル・メデューナ　

1. Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 1:58
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOkKszEOR0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOkKszEOR0[/SPOILER-BOX]

[/spoiler-box]

[Kamekur]

Decol Malluda:

Kamekur - 茜泉 - FiHu - 0:31

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtQHwCg5iiM[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Bellion]

osht, I forgot to post in here like I said I would weeks ago! :C

Novu Malida(rare Decol)
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:30
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Snow Panther twins
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:30 or 0:31 idk
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrkx7w1TaI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrkx7w1TaI[/SPOILER-BOX]

Quartz Dragon
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:12
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxh-vgTTmmQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxh-vgTTmmQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Gwanada
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:08
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhN9CFi6Izs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhN9CFi6Izs[/SPOILER-BOX]

Not sure if I should post with reasons;
De Malmoth - Got ass to the face
Rockbear - Don't like it
Vol Dragon - Didn't behave at the start

[Kamekur]

osht, I forgot to post in here like I said I would weeks ago! :C

Novu Malida(rare Decol)
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:29
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ[/SPOILER-BOX]



Posting it right after mine was deliberate wasn't it ;_; . (They're all up)

[Zenobia]

Forgot this thread existed lol.

Vol Dragon
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 3:11
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPpMVtrRI7Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPpMVtrRI7Y[/SPOILER-BOX]

Banthers
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2-37
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y77julBe3xs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y77julBe3xs[/SPOILER-BOX]

Gwanahda
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 1:08
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIAfP7c2spU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIAfP7c2spU[/SPOILER-BOX]

Rockbear
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 0:51
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48InV49m5QQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48InV49m5QQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Quartz Dragon
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2:15
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTjslI_k5k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTjslI_k5k[/SPOILER-BOX]

DragonX
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2:51
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuNZQgeBsFA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuNZQgeBsFA[/SPOILER-BOX]

Decol Mlluda
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 0:53
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8vTZEquj4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8vTZEquj4[/SPOILER-BOX]

Biol Meduna
Zenobia - やりマン - Br/Hu - 2:07
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOkKszEOR0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOkKszEOR0[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Meji]

SH Vol Dragon - FI/HU - 0:58

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juABhveNcRg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juABhveNcRg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I should record more. ;_; /lazy

[Kamekur]

They are all up. It's nice to see some competition already! :-D

By the way, to Zenobia...


Boss times will be measured basing as starting time when your character can start moving after the cutscene, and as finish time, when the game registers the kill (exp pops out).


That's why your times are lower. Just letting you know for next time.

[gigawuts]

osht, I forgot to post in here like I said I would weeks ago! :C

Novu Malida(rare Decol)
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:30
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Snow Panther twins
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:30 or 0:31 idk
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrkx7w1TaI[/SPOILER-BOX]

Quartz Dragon
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:12
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxh-vgTTmmQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Gwanada
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:08
[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhN9CFi6Izs[/SPOILER-BOX]

Not sure if I should post with reasons;
De Malmoth - Got ass to the face
Rockbear - Don't like it
Vol Dragon - Didn't behave at the start

nevermind I take it back, hatou rindou does not need a nerf

I've been meaning to ask: Do you normally play with low settings, or is that for recording?

[Bellion]

Posting it right after mine was deliberate wasn't it ;_; .

No, I swear ;_;

Although, the timing when it was posted does work against me here.

Tranmizer
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:21 or 0:22
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clcg6am2jGY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clcg6am2jGY[/SPOILER-BOX]

Vol Dragon
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:45 or 0:46
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZnPQ8nMX18"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZnPQ8nMX18[/SPOILER-BOX]

And yes, I do suck at reading accurate times.


nevermind I take it back, hatou rindou does not need a nerf

I've been meaning to ask: Do you normally play with low settings, or is that for recording?

I have to play on these settings all of the time because my craptop is basically a toaster.

[Zenobia]

They are all up. It's nice to see some competition already! :-D

By the way, to Zenobia...



That's why your times are lower. Just letting you know for next time.

Oops mess up der.


SH Vol Dragon - FI/HU - 0:58

[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juABhveNcRg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I should record more. ;_; /lazy

Yes..yes you should and you should feel bad >:D!

[Coatl]

Wooooh these recordings are so cool. I seriously can't get enough of someone downing a boss in no time flat.

[Dnd]

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeJ4PApas9s[/SPOILER-BOX]Equipment list:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://imageshack.us/a/img823/2797/tc3l.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]It'd be alot quicker with the latent and all the boosts I can get, but I wanted to get sub 60 seconds without any of them so I'm happy :3

[Kamekur]

They're all up. But...


SH Vol Dragon - FI/HU - 0:58

[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juABhveNcRg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I should record more. ;_; /lazy


[SPOILER-BOX][Pso2] Super Hard - Dark ragne (0:54 - Fi/Hu) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeJ4PApas9s)[/SPOILER-BOX]Equipment list:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://imageshack.us/a/img823/2797/tc3l.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]It'd be alot quicker with the latent and all the boosts I can get, but I wanted to get sub 60 seconds without any of them so I'm happy :3

Rule #5. It's there for a reason, not to be blatantly ignored, so, please follow it.

[ChiffonFairchild]

SH Forest Free Exploration: Rockbear Boss Fight

Chiffon-san - Chiffon - FO(65)/FI(52) -

[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO4FwHD4eXw&feature=youtu.be[/SPOILER-BOX]

At time of this posting my vid is still being edited in the Tube of You so if quality is crap then I apologize D:

Ah, any tips would be greatly appreciated as I know I'm not any good and I'm out to play for fun, but I would like to get better!

[Horo The Wise Wolf]

Gwana Boss Fight
salvatorerosa - ホロ - Fi(63)/Hu(57) - :56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQBggODCls[/spoiler-box]

[spoiler]I think I am jumping the gun on the TA's considering I am not capped, not do I have the proper armor to do so, hence why I would run out of PP in 3 DA's. Hopefully more improvement to come.

[Kamekur]

I think I am jumping the gun on the TA's considering I am not capped, not do I have the proper armor to do so, hence why I would run out of PP in 3 DA's. Hopefully more improvement to come.

Use the 3rd normal attack of sabers to sustain your PP. Each hit gives 9 PP back, hitting a total of 3 times (27 PP). Step attack gives 5 PP per hit (3 again, 15 PP), and saber gear 1 PP per hit.

[Dnd]

Dnd - Nina - Fi(65)/Hu(63)
Rockbear :44 (:43?)
Catadran'sa :45
[SPOILER-BOX]
[Pso2] Super hard rockbear + catadick (http://youtu.be/z2gYmOIogRM)
[/SPOILER-BOX]
Very sloppy considering the boosts i had, but it was like 5am

Edit: Double saber gear gives no pp at all

[Dinosaur]

both times are SOLO

GM - GuHu - Nab2, 4:59
http://i.imgur.com/ot15MXX.jpg

GM - GuHu - SH Darker Den, 38:26
http://i.imgur.com/qvleQwm.jpg
is this even a thing still..?

[final_attack]

Player ID, right ?


Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - GuHu

Rockbear (0:13-0:34) - 21s
[SPOILER-BOX]Dunno why, but @ 33s or 34s, there's a cut, the sound is kinda off too ==" In original one (before I encode it), the sound isn't off =="

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbFe90LSuY[/SPOILER-BOX]

Caterdran (Boosted) (0:16-0:54) - 38s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbqAVRs-uRo[/SPOILER-BOX]

Vol Dragon (0:19-1:20) - 1m01s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cavi4Qdp4zk[/SPOILER-BOX]

Gwanahda (0:18-0:51) - 33s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyI8bAE4e4[/SPOILER-BOX]

Del Malmoth (0:14-0:52) - 38s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK0spcfYbmQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Snow Banther + Snow Banshee (0:19-1:25) - 1m06s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Xf_ep8yEk[/SPOILER-BOX]

Transmizer (0:15-0:40) - 25s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHiiVVRABHc[/SPOILER-BOX]

Caterdransa (0:15-0:41) - 26s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmLYwQlJz5w[/SPOILER-BOX]

Quartz Dragon (0:19-1:04) - 45s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Tp9KrF7sQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

Wolgahda (0:15-0:36) - 21s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZ87o5a27s[/SPOILER-BOX]

Goronzoran (Rare + Boosted) (0:13-0:45) - 32s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9z8Q3BiNI[/SPOILER-BOX]

Dragon Ex (0:18-1:06) - 48s
[SPOILER-BOX]Very lucky ^^; Took 10+ tries on this one =="


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8C9FS3SeUM[/SPOILER-BOX]

Blu Ringahda (0:18-1:11) - 53s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BIeKIwnz8k[/SPOILER-BOX]

Org Blan (0:15-0:41) - 36s
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzldrGwthM[/SPOILER-BOX]

[ChiffonFairchild]

Chiffon-san - Chiffon - FO(65)/FI(52) -

SH Gwanahda Nero

youtube.com/watch?v=V7VS3FDLt60[/SPOILER-BOX]

Was trying to get regular Gwana but after 5 runs I gave up. This was my second run and it was just bad overall. Had no strats for this battle as you can see at the end of the vid I wasn't happy....I just wanted to watch that thing burn.

Loved watching your vids, final_attack :) I'd totally suck TPS sytle ;-; XD

P.S. [S]How do you guys get it so the video shows up on this page? Thanks Kikikiki!

[Kikikiki]

Use youtube.com

[final_attack]

@Chiffon

I'm still not good @ TPS Mode ;-; Would like to improve, but real life won't let me (I rarely playing now) ;-;

And btw, I'll try posting TA one ...... but, not soon (irl things ....... again) T_T

[NexusAZ]

Rupee - Nexus - 61 Gunner/46 Ranger

[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jweCIkR4b6Q[/spoiler-box]


I was bored and tired.. and because I'm tired it was a bit sloppy. May go for a cleaner/faster kill... but eh, we'll see.

[Dinosaur]

I got around to getting a run recorded

GM - GuHu - Nab2, 4:54
http://www.twitch.tv/gmcustom/c/3335074

4:30 looks easy at this point. There are many un-optimized things in that run, like wasting 8 seconds picking up rares, slow breedha/predichada/cyclos kill, shitty banther fight, and shitty dashing to name a few.

[Shadowth117]

Right, so I did this:

Shadowth117 - Neobackpack - (Fire Fo/Br) - Naberius II - 7:21

[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLhuglW7ps[/spoiler-box]

Yeah it can be done better. I'm not in the quad dashing club and I make more than enough mistakes. But hell, I don't see many other people putting SH Fo TA's up...

[NexusAZ]

Rupee - Nexus - 62 Gunner/46 Ranger

[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQmMhIr6-2U[/spoiler-box]

Last time has been improved upon. 14-15 seconds

[Kikikiki]

>posting GU

[Kamekur]

All runs are updated (I've been updating them as soon as I got time without saying anything, but yeah)

By the way...


>posting GU

I'm not sure what you meant by that, but:



Rule #3: If you have anything to say, be constructive.


Thank you.

[Bozhestvo]

Decol Malluda ・　デコル・マリューダ　

1. Bellion - Caprus - RaHu - 0:29 (Rare)
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjI6Vgo9VGQ[/SPOILER-BOX]

I hear Tekken Tag Tournament 2!

[renji84]

OrderRenji -ash-GU/HU darker den SH solo :time remaining 25:18

http://t3.pixhost.org/thumbs/4120/19703546_pso20131205_180702_000.jpg (http://www.pixhost.org/show/4120/19703546_pso20131205_180702_000.jpg)

[Bellion]

Zoron Graal(Rare version of Goran Zoran)
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:26
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvDc6qy05Is[/SPOILER-BOX]

Dark Ragne infected
Bellion - Caprus - Ra/Hu - 0:37
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Mrt_3gdgc[/SPOILER-BOX]

And stepping into Fi/Hu territory for once:
Zeshreida
Bellion - メルカリア - Fi/Hu - 0:45
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSRYmvTlpw[/SPOILER-BOX]


I hear Tekken Tag Tournament 2!
Guilty, I suppose.

[Shadowth117]

Shadowth117 - Neobackpack - (Fire Fo/Br) - Amduscia 1 - 12:36

[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHm40OY2UQ[/spoiler-box]

Mistakes here and there as usual, but there were some amusing kills at one part and it wasn't awful overall. The RNG with the fight pits is a pain since you get stalled out for PP against wondas, but overall I feel like the enemies are surprisingly enough more consistent than in VH. Of course, that's not to say the run isn't annoying, being Amduscia 1, and I think this attempt is fine for the moment.

[Kamekur]

All runs are up. Make sure to read again rule #5 (and all other rules, while you're at it), I made some modifications.

They're there for a reason. I've already said it more than once.




-5. Posting format

Because things might get messy. I obviously don't know everyone, and much less your IDs/character names (especially if they're written in kanji/hiragana/katakana).

So the posting format will be this:

Name of quest and amount of players//Boss (If you're posting multiple runs, put the info on each of them.)

Player ID - Character Name - Class/Subclass - Time (optional, I will check it anyways)

[Spoilerbox]Link of video // Link of image.[Spoilerbox]

For example...

Naberius II TA 1 Player // Vol Dragon

Kamekur - 茜泉 - Fi/Hu - 7:65
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch/tryhardblablabla // imgur.com/tryhard[/SPOILER-BOX]

Embedding your videos obviously works too.

Anything that's not posted within this format will NOT be posted. I believe it takes less effort for the poster than the OP (especially when there's multiple runs of multiple people) to do this.

[NexusAZ]

Rupee - Nexus - Gu/Ra

De Malmoth
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhSmve1B_dM[/spoiler-box]

Vol Dragon
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTvIw7Ho0GA[/spoiler-box]

Just realized I screwed the format up. Next ones will be proper. Sorry T_T

[Kamekur]

Altar TA 4P

Kamekur - 茜泉 - Fi/Hu, Akatora - Sen - Fi/Hu, ChickenHunter - Chicken - Fi/Hu, Ansereris - Syhon - Ra/Hu - 4:02
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/lomnQqe.jpg?1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY0f_gSKtc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY0f_gSKtc
[/SPOILER-BOX]

Comes with a little bonus.

[milranduil]

Quality WB there lol.

[Rehal]

Quality WB there lol.

Why do i feel...http://puu.sh/5FVAU.PNG

[Dinosaur]

Darker Den 1p
GM - ヂノ - Gu/Hu - 29:13
http://i.imgur.com/iTs3APv.jpg

Amaduscia 1p
GM - ヂノ - GuHu - 11:42
http://www.twitch.tv/gmcustom/c/3374508

[Esofor]

Altar TA 4P

Kamekur - 茜泉 - Fi/Hu, Akatora - Sen - Fi/Hu, ChickenHunter - Chicken - Fi/Hu, Ansereris - Syhon - Ra/Hu - 4:02
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/lomnQqe.jpg?1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY0f_gSKtc
[/SPOILER-BOX]

Comes with a little bonus.

counting the times you screwed up last room, i wouldn't be talking

that run was trash anyways!

[Kamekur]

counting the times you screwed up last room, i wouldn't be talking

that run was trash anyways!

Just messing with you man, at least one of us messed up in each of our runs in any sort of way :-D.

I wish I still had the other runs so I could make a more accurate video, but I usually delete them as soon as I run out of space.

As for me...Those goddamn fireballs.

All runs are up.

[SakoHaruo]

Decol Mulluda:

SakoHaruo - Sula - FiHu - 0:30

[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNtGAeFMCg[/spoiler-box]

Wolghada:

SakoHaruo - Sula - FiHu - 0:30

[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcXegVbLHA[/spoiler-box]

[final_attack]

Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - GuHu
TA SH Naberius 2 - Solo - 7m20s
[SPOILER-BOX]Not fun to watch I guess ..... I think it's near my limit too =="

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJb9BJpwKCw[/SPOILER-BOX]

Agus D Prasetyo - Ghost - GuHu
TA SH Sanctum - Solo - 10m12s
[SPOILER-BOX]Got lucky on Quartz ^^; Epic fail on 1 part of normal mobs killing =="

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8moaRrCc2w[/SPOILER-BOX]

Agus D Prasetyo - 明石篠 - BrHu
Solo Boss Fight - SH Rockbear - (00:15 - 00:51) - 36s
Sorry for low level (56/45, Lv 8 Hatou Rindou). Originally just an alt for TACOs slave and eye candy ^^; Most likely, I won't do TA recording using this char ^^;
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O92RWJSLuE4[/SPOILER-BOX]

[milranduil]

/Revive&necro

This is my first attempt at TAing Sanctum with BR HU. If I had Susanoguren, I could go HU BR and 1 shot Dirandals with Sacred Skewer but lol @ that thing dropping for me. There is a lot I can clean up, mainly being consistently timing Katana Finish to not get Sil shielded and have to clean up, killing Goronzoran more efficiently (not missing Hatou on crystals when he descends), not breaking quartz nose properly in 2 HR so I can spam Shunka, and finally properly locking onto Vol's top horn for 1 less Shunka. JP time was like 7:19 without Shunka and this is with Shunka, so... yeah I suck but w/e.

Milranduil - Mireyuna - BrHu
Sanctum TA - Solo - 8:39
[spoiler-box]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/pso20140102_080416_001.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[jiasu73]

jiasu73 - Tomia - BrHu
Naberius 2 TA - Solo - 5:21
idk how to boss
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZytthIsQ2M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZytthIsQ2M[/SPOILER-BOX]

[jiasu73]

jiasu73 - Tomia - BrHu
Naberius 2 TA - Solo - 4:48
improved a lot!
[SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvbP690MEI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvbP690MEI[/SPOILER-BOX]

[SakoHaruo]

lol here I am playing Fighter having to work twice as hard and spend more money on gear when I could just craft one Katana and get sub 5

I'm doing it wrong, very wrong. btw nice run Tomia

[milranduil]

jiasu73 - Tomia - BrHu
Naberius 2 TA - Solo - 4:48
improved a lot!
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvbP690MEI[/SPOILER-BOX]

Changing your KC timing definitely helped clean up your run a lot! Nice time :D

[TaigaUC]

Dunno if it's old news or whether this is the place to post such, but it seems Kuroto has a new TACO for completing any TA on Super Hard.
The reward is 100k.

[Horo The Wise Wolf]

Revive this!

Quartz Dragon - Solo
salvatorerosa - ホロ - Gu(65) / Hu(65) - :38
[Spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ORWD5ahgWs
[/Spoiler-box]

(late Edit)

Del Mammoth - Solo
salvatorerosa - ホロ - Gu(65) / Ra(60) - :21
[Spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkCZ1jnCvf4

[/Spoiler-box]

[milranduil]

Dragon Ex - Solo
Milranduil - Mireyuna HU(65) / BR(65) - 0:29
[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXXLUnRW78
[/spoiler-box]

[Zenobia]

Dragon Ex - Solo
Milranduil - Mireyuna HU(65) / BR(65) - 0:29
[spoiler-box] Dragon ex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXXLUnRW78)
[/spoiler-box]

Teach me how to make Quartz drop Susano pls btw fast run much lolz~!

[milranduil]

I wouldn't know... 1500 quartz and nothing. Bought mine for 106mil ._.b

[Zenobia]

Well damn LOL!

[milranduil]

Because bored...

Decol Malluda - Solo

Milranduil - Mireyuna HU65/BR65 - 0:20
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlrkp9MiMrA
[/spoiler-box]

Zeshrayda - Solo
Milranduil - Mireyuan HU65/BR65 - 0:36
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sghaK_FqcR4
[/spoiler-box]

Dark Ragne - Solo
Milranduil - Mireyuna HU65/BR65 - 0:18
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxPOkI-1gIM
[/spoiler-box]

Falz Hunar - Solo
Milranduil - Mireyuna HU65/BR65 - 0:16
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2I2nAEScQ8
[/spoiler-box]

[Horo The Wise Wolf]

BR TA's shouldn't even Exist. (At least the Shunka ones)

[Shadowth117]

BR TA's shouldn't even Exist. (At least the Shunka ones)

You could say the same of anything involving overend, but in the end its the best thing we have in some cases for what's there.

[Dinosaur]

gunner sucks
and so does this time

nab II SH solo
gu/hu (70/66)- 4:14
http://i.imgur.com/NXRQxQ8.jpg

no Assault Buster, no chain usage, no a1 spawn kill, no PP drink(118pp max). I estimate a 3:40 if i do something about these.

i expect this thread to blow up soon because of all the new strats

[Z-0]

i expect this thread to blow up soon because of all the new strats
Actually, we just stopped using it because it seems nobody cares about TA in the slightest. Was always just the same few people posting, so we moved our records to a google page.

[Dinosaur]

RIP thread

i think we can all blame shunka

[Shadowth117]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx2oodHITc8

I know most of the people who TA right now hate psow and all, but eh.

[Z-0]

Maybe if we post things, people may stumble across it and gain interest? Nah...

5:46 Solo RaHu Altar -> http://www.twitch.tv/xzynetic/c/4247869

Video is horrible quality because UK upload speeds are a load of garbage that I can't increase the quality without going slide-show mode and lagging the hell out of myself. (I streamed this etc. etc.)

Run is pretty garb, I just wanted a sub-6 to make up for the 8 minute garbage I did while showing a friend who to play RA.

[Silver Crow]

Now this is a crazy time, 3.04 nab2

【PSO2】ナベリウスⅡSHソロTA3:04【Fo/Br】 http://nico.ms/sm23552474 #nicoid #sm23552474

[Z-0]

Personally, I thought the 3:23 RaHu video (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23550773) was much more impressive. Could've been faster than the FO vid for sure if Area 5 wasn't messed up. (hence why the description says "Skip Area 5 plz")

Both videos were done before the PB nerf too.

[Silver Crow]

Personally, I thought the 3:23 RaHu video (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23550773) was much more impressive. Could've been faster than the FO vid for sure if Area 5 wasn't messed up. (hence why the description says "Skip Area 5 plz")

Both videos were done before the PB nerf too.

I have no idea why but personally hate Launchers (edit, lol I said I had no idea then started to explain, im so weird haha), I have adhd and the Launcher animation looks like its loading fir 10 years, I feel like could sleep in the time it takes to fire a shot x.x I like fast weapons, so I hate stuff like Satellite Rifle PA which requires patience.

So to me I literally hate anything that requires charging, Braver PAs are kinda awesome though. The only type of force I play is Ice Elysion FoFi

edit: after seeing some Ra/Hu TA videos I'm itching it try it out, I guess animation speed isn't everything

[Z-0]

Satellite Cannon is not an impressive PA, anyway. It's far too overhyped and should not be used in 99% of situations that people use it, so you are right to hate it.

It is only good for certain boss fights.

Honestly though, I use Launcher simply because it's faster to use Launcher than something else. You can use as many "fast weapons" as you want, but you will end up being slower in the long run, and it won't feel very fast anymore.

[Esofor]

sh altar 6:44 fihu

maybe i'll do better next time

[spoiler-box]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEB8-vK_CM[/spoiler-box]

[Bellion]

I thought I'd just contribute some trash of mine.

[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut9l9UH0Myc[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Silver Crow]

I thought I'd just contribute some trash of mine.

[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut9l9UH0Myc[/SPOILER-BOX]

loved the satellite cannon to pop goronzoran crystals, writing notes down :p


sh altar 6:44 fihu

maybe i'll do better next time

[spoiler-box]644 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEB8-vK_CM)[/spoiler-box]

the FiHu king! and yeah coming from you next time it will be like sub 5mins o.o no pressure or anything. but for a fighter this is insane.

[Z-0]

Sub-5 Minutes is simply not possible as Fighter. It has too many weaknesses to even hope for a time like that. The only classes physically possible of doing Sub-5 will be Braver and Ranger, since they are the most overpowered classes in the game at the moment.

I updated the Google page, and I'm probably going to try Sub-5 Amduscia later on if I can get a RaHu to play. Otherwise it'll be Sub-6 Amduscia duo, OR I'll probably solo Altar if nobody wants to do anything. ;_; I'll keep you posted.

[Silver Crow]

Sub-5 Minutes is simply not possible as Fighter. It has too many weaknesses to even hope for a time like that. The only classes physically possible of doing Sub-5 will be Braver and Ranger, since they are the most overpowered classes in the game at the moment.

I updated the Google page, and I'm probably going to try Sub-5 Amduscia later on if I can get a RaHu to play. Otherwise it'll be Sub-6 Amduscia duo, OR I'll probably solo Altar if nobody wants to do anything. ;_; I'll keep you posted.

True but he posted times I thought were impossible before, maybe it really is impossible this time... But if any fighter could do it, it would be him. Syhon fan~~~

[Z-0]

Clearly you've never seen Ponthi play ... !

[Silver Crow]

Clearly you've never seen Ponthi play ... !

I have, he solo'd bloody Falz Luza with a Bow! mad dodge skills o.o But yeah maybe not his Fi vids ima check them out now. I haven't watched many Fi's on Youtube, it's mainly Ancientflare channel and random Nico Nico vids

p.s. speaking of Nico Nico, you've probably seen this, it was released just under a weak ago, sub 3min Altar with Braver and Ranger duo, bloody insane stuff o.o
【PSO2】 SH龍祭壇ペア 3:40 【TA】 http://nico.ms/sm23528069 #nicoid #sm23528069

edit: holy shit ponthi is a beast

[btw-Niji]

Ponthi is my brother

[Ordy]

I thought I'd just contribute some trash of mine.



ok now, that part was funny:

http://i.imgur.com/28R9fGv.jpg

Happens to me all time when I'm trying to RD the 3 crystals :lol::lol:

[Z-0]

My favourite is when you Rodeo the last four crystals, then the middle one fires a fireball RIGHT AS YOU GET TO IT so you get hit and it's like "why am I even playing this game?"
Also I need a fluffy tail launcher. Donate pl0z.

[Bellion]

That room is seriously the worst. If I don't mess up the first 3, the middle one of the last 3 just happens to fire at that exact moment to mess me up.

No raccoon launcher for you but I could donate a Noire Gunslash if you want to use it.

[Silver Crow]

Incase people have missed these on Nico

PSO2　龍祭壇SHTAソロ　Ra/Br　4:33 http://nico.ms/sm23611579 #nicoid #sm23611579

【PSO2】 SH龍祭壇ペア 3:40 【TA】 http://nico.ms/sm23528069 #nicoid #sm23528069

[Esofor]

sh altar 6:22 fihu

i can cut it down by a lot if i rely on perfect RNG, but i'm not gonna do it

[spoiler-box]622 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJlxsfrBJ3c)[/spoiler-box]

[Remz69]

sh altar 6:22 fihu

i can cut it down by a lot if i rely on perfect RNG, but i'm not gonna do it

[spoiler-box]622 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJlxsfrBJ3c)[/spoiler-box]


this motivated me to have some fun with Fi/Hu
i know someone posted a chart of enemy HP ( Z-0 i think it was) but i can't find it anymore
i would just like to know how much HP the ran'sa in altar has, because i keep killing it and go ' oh fu, PB ! '

[ChinaSue]

this motivated me to have some fun with Fi/Hu
i know someone posted a chart of enemy HP ( Z-0 i think it was) but i can't find it anymore
i would just like to know how much HP the ran'sa in altar has, because i keep killing it and go ' oh fu, PB ! '

481,600

[AlphawingEX]

I completely forgot to post this here.

Naberius II Time Attack solo

GiroEX - Giro - Te/Fi - 4:33

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isuSH_Ye5fg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Maenara]

No raccoon launcher for you but I could donate a Noire Gunslash if you want to use it.

Will take.

[Chdata]

Would anyone see any value to making a similar thread, but for stipulated challenges?

For example boss fights with no damage, no floor, full break, no using the usual bossing PAs, etc. Not necessarily for fastest times, though that is still part of the criteria.

Silly stuff like Zan only:

http://youtu.be/NWALHIppLpQ

No PA quarts:

http://youtu.be/u9M11ydpsFk

[Dnd]

So i did afew times, I could get better if I wasn't so derpy that night....

Dnd - Nina - Fi/Hu - 0:39 - Zeshrayda SH
[SPOILER-BOX]I could of gotten quicker, but tiredness and derps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzbNY6xI0kg[/SPOILER-BOX]Dnd - Nina - Fi/Hu - 0:31 - Quartz Dragon SH
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL-yrYeiTV0[/SPOILER-BOX]Dnd - Nina - Fi/Hu - 0:27 - Wolgahda SH
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuKYikum_-U[/SPOILER-BOX]

[btw-Niji]

Would anyone see any value to making a similar thread, but for stipulated challenges?

For example boss fights with no damage, no floor, full break, no using the usual bossing PAs, etc. Not necessarily for fastest times, though that is still part of the criteria.

Silly stuff like Zan only:

http://youtu.be/NWALHIppLpQ

No PA quarts:

http://youtu.be/u9M11ydpsFk
nope.

[GoldenFalcon]

yes**

[SakoHaruo]

So i did afew times, I could get better if I wasn't so derpy that night....

Dnd - Nina - Fi/Hu - 0:31 - Quartz Dragon SH
[SPOILER-BOX]Quartz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL-yrYeiTV0)[/SPOILER-BOX]

184 PP. Why did you use PB? You could have easily gotten 15 seconds or less. And If Quartz doesn't use its derp missiles you might as well start over.




Would anyone see any value to making a similar thread, but for stipulated challenges?

For example boss fights with no damage, no floor, full break, no using the usual bossing PAs, etc. Not necessarily for fastest times, though that is still part of the criteria.

Silly stuff like Zan only:

http://youtu.be/NWALHIppLpQ

No PA quarts:

http://youtu.be/u9M11ydpsFk



nope.

Actually...

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207131

[Remz69]

481,600

ty, already doing better,

kinda regret the pp affixes on my gear now though, i fear that by the time i switch to 110/7 things will have changed

[Dnd]

184 PP. Why did you use PB? You could have easily gotten 15 seconds or less. And If Quartz doesn't use its derp missiles you might as well start over.

Because at 4am in the morning you don't really care for completely optimised runs nor battling rng for 20 minutes just to get one shot when that time was pretty good anyway. Besides if i cared that much my kamui would be dark not light ;p

I PB'd 'cus it does tons of damage and figured it'd break the nose quicker if it did derp missles, while saving PP for the high-damage on its nose. Considering it hits normal mobs for 20-25k *shrugs*

[Chdata]

Hahaha... clear Nab taco in 20 or 45 minutes solo with only 5 healing items...

Ah.. but no items.

[milranduil]

You use items when you taco?!

[Remz69]

You use items when you taco?!

shifta ride

seriously though, i think he meant weapons/armors

got sub 7 SH Altar Fi/Hu, could do better, dunno if i will, probably not worth posting unless it's a sub 6

[AlVaRo0515]

shifta ride

seriously though, i think he meant weapons/armors

got sub 7 SH Altar Fi/Hu, could do better, dunno if i will, probably not worth posting unless it's a sub 6

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/V5LHIdg.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Z-0]

lol oh well. here's a random 2:58 nab2 using HuBr, BrHu, RaHu and FoBr.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe_-GBKB5_0

The Area 6 is really bad, but Area 1 gives me a headache so Sub3 is good enough for now.

Also got around to updating things wow that took forever.

[Esofor]

nice run

can i join your team?

[btw-Niji]

nice dive rolling!!!

[Remz69]

nice run

can i join your team?


so mean ^^

[Kanade]

nice dive rolling!!!

Autobots, Roll out.

[SakoHaruo]

I always thought 2p was more efficient than 4p, especially on Nab 2.

Wait... didn't someone manage to get Sub 3 as RaHu(solo)?

[Z-0]

4P is faster on Nab2 if done properly because you can skip about 10 seconds in Area 5, plus Ragne is slightly faster if everyone loads at the same time.

And no, the fastest solo time for Nab2 is 3:04 as FoBr, by Bob. However, remember that the times posted here are supposed to be ranking foreigners against other foreigners, because ping restraints are a very real thing.

[AlphawingEX]

Not a very clean run, but I just wanted to show Te/Br TA potential.

Sanctum Time Attack solo

GiroEX - Giro - Te/Br - 5:59

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UndaBN4lRRA[/SPOILER-BOX]

[SakoHaruo]

@ 0:32 Whoa, whoa, let that be a lesson to all the kids at home watching. Don't drink and Asagiri. o3o


@ 1:29 Hey, where do you think you're going?


@ 1:45 At this moment, you can tell Giro is really feeling the pressure from those two huge mistakes. But, there a lot of potential here, as this class doesn't get into the limelight as much as the others. I think he can still pull something out of this run.

3:16 oh, oooooohhhhhh. That Vol got WASTED!


4:46 Son... we got accidental 5 steps! 5 steps!? Where? I haven't seen one all day. :wacko:


5:59 TeBr

AND THE CROWD IS ON THEIR FEET! WHAT AN ANSWER BY THE WIZARD GIRO! SHOWING US JUST A SMALL SAMPLE OF WHAT IS TO COME IN THE FUTURE. \O/

[Amakuni]

Nadia & co are and was always the best on time attack , so sad they're not here :(

[Ordy]

Nice run Giro （＾∀＾）
Techers TA are always fun watch

[Z-0]

Nadia & co are and was always the best on time attack , so sad they're not here :(
I miss Nadia, he's cool!

[SakoHaruo]

I miss Nadia, he's cool!

Hi. o3o

Welcome back. No really. I'm glad you've returned from the dead. Can't wait to see your new final form.


Q: Which class do you expect to make a big opening come Episode 3?

[NexusAZ]

Been playing Fighter almost exclusively since EP3 was released. I'm pretty happy with the changes they made to it.

Being able to lock onto Rockbears face.... that might be a bit much for this guy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmbmAtrSOFY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmbmAtrSOFY

[Z-0]

Q: Which class do you expect to make a big opening come Episode 3?
I missed this, but I'll answer it anyway. The current metas are as follows:

God-tier:
FiHu
RaHu
RaBr
FoTe
FoBr
TeBr

High-tier:
BrHu
Gu/X (probably, I haven't actually messed with this but everybody is telling me it's not so great anymore with the nerf to Fury and S-Roll JA, so this could be anywhere)

OK-tier:
Hunter main

Shit-tier:
Anything bouncer

I feel like FoFi should go somewhere, but Nabarta isn't really worthwhile to mention, honestly. FoTe and FoBr can do much better DPS with stronger techniques. It's extremely PP-efficient and easy to use, though.

Fighter, with Limit Break and other various buffs, is a much stronger candidate than it used to be. With the buffs to Assault Buster and Slide End, those PAs are able to hit an average of 50K with proper equipment and buffs. Unfortunately, they're really the only notable PAs of the Hunter arsenal, so playing a Hunter main is pointless as the strongest Partisan (Trident Crusher) is FI-equippable, so you're much better playing Fi or Br as your main. Hunter shall forever be doomed as a subclass, it seems. As always, Backhand Smash is your choice of PA for boss killing.

Ranger is just like it always was, an insane enemy crusher with a plethora of good AoE options. Not easy to play, but extremely rewarding. RaHu is better for general play and AoE options, while RaBr is a much stronger boss candidate with Bow (Master Shoot/Last Nemesis with Banish Arrow). It pretty much got insanely buffed with Episode 3, not nerfed. The largest nerf to Ranger was the projectile change of Satellite Cannon, which now comes from the top instead of the bottom, which ruins a lot of options.

Force got mega-buffed with Episode 3 as well. Ilmegid has always been inferior to other options that FO has, but since Ilmegid was bandwagon good (eg: easy to use for results), the rest of FO's arsenal got buffed pretty significantly. Fire FO and Bolt FO are insanely strong now, and can output huge numbers with their techniques. For example, Foie can easily do 23K~ on non-weak points (but weak enemy) as FoBr, while the other fire techniques will obviously do more, especially in a Zondeel. Zonde got buffed by quite a significant amount too, further increasing the damage of Zondeel > Zonde combos.

As an add, all melee weapons now have Step Attack innate, which means that FoTe is able to step with daggers properly now, furthering their usefulness. Being able to use a really strong T-Atk weapon with Step Attack (Elysion) and faster stepping than before is a much useful skill for TA.

Going from sort of low-tier to God-tier, the new skill "Attack Advance", along with the many TE buffs from Episode 3, have made TeBr a serious new meta. Currently, the best choice for Tower Defenses is now a TE majority, as proper gear and buffs will allow TE to easily one or two shot all Zondeels with heavy enemies such as Goldrahdas and Cyclones. Even for single targets, TeBr is able to output extremely heavy damage, out DPS'ing Braver's Sakura End and Shunka Shunran quite easily.

I can honestly see Techer getting nerfed in the near-future, it is literally THAT overpowered now.

Braver, on the other hand, just keeps receiving nerfs. Going from the very top of the league to standing on its last legs, Braver is able to keep up with the God-tier classes, but it can't really do anything special that the other classes can't do better. Right now, Braver is more of an all-rounder class than anything extremely overpowered (Kanran for AoE, Sakura/Hatou/Shunka for single target DPS, Katana Combat for high powered AoE, etc). With Techer's buff though, Katana Finish's usage is dwindling fast. It's still really good, but comparatively, it's honestly not that great anymore with the nerf to Fury Stance.

Gunner, I can't really comment on too much, but I'm hearing its usage is definitely going down. It's still a -good- class, but the other classes can do things so much better than it now. It most likely has no place in any sort of top-tier party / MPA, but take this with a grain of salt. It didn't have a place in top-tier parties before Episode 3 either, but there could be something good for it out there now with the Chaining Buffs, but once again, I can't really say.

tl;dr of above paragraph: I can't say anything about Gunner.

And lastly, Bouncer is literally nothing but shit right now. It's hype as fuck, and hella flashy, but that's all it really has going for it (apart from support I guess, which TE can do better, along with damage). It's extremely powerful against bosses, but the strongest thing in its arsenal is its Dual Blade gear, which is only really viable for spamming when Photon Blade Fever is up, which has 45 second duration and 120s cooldown, so less than half the time. A few of the Dual Blade PAs are very strong, but their movement makes them extremely unspammy and rather low DPS amongst groups. Jet Boots are honestly just a bad weapon overall. Their damage is rather low and their PAs are extremely gimmicky. Tree is also really bad. Not much to say really... They can work, but that well. Something else is always the better choice usually.

Jet Boots are a very good utility weapon for FO, though. FO is able to take some shortcuts with double-jump Ilzonde, as you don't fall very much at all when charging techs in the air with boots, plus Skyzonde (Double-jump Razonde) can be very useful in some situations. Of course, these utilities are best used on classes such as FoTe, FoBr, etc. with all-class boots (or FO equippable, at least). 5:22 Lilipa as FoTe using Jet Boots strategies (on Nico) (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24372709).

Bouncer has the most potential to change though, since it has a very small selection of PAs. Right now it's definitely the lowest of the low, but perhaps it will break through to the top much like Braver did in the past.

That's my 2 cents on current class standings with Episode 3! I really hope Bouncer does get better though, I really do like their weapons, but I love results much more. ._.

The above is counting all sorts of gameplay modes, such as MPA, AQ, TA, TD, etc, not anything specific.

[SakoHaruo]

Hmm. I can't really say much since I haven't done any testing myself (been playing Bo since release and preparing for Boost week), but I do agree with pretty much everything, and that was probably the most interesting FoTe TA run I have ever seen.


Did about 5 minutes of testing on day one (just to compare damage numbers) with my available classes and quickly notice all the ups and downs as Braver and the easier mobbing as Ranger. I can't say much about Force since I just started to use those classes seriously (leveled up a character before Ep3).


For RaHu I'm guessing HE strats is what everyone will go back to on Vol and Quartz @ Sanctum. If I had to guess I'd say S.Cannon can still be a thing if you apply WB to Vol's face and reapply it as soon as he gets stuns for a easy stun chain. Otherwise all the old stuff still works and has gotten easier to pull off since the requirements were lowered. I've been meaning to upgrade to another Launcher (probably XQ GSD), but the original op launcher, L.Legacy, is still capable of pulling off most/all feats. Still annoying whenever you miss a weak point, though.

With the new Partisan FiHu is looking kinda scary. I saw someone hitting a consistent 200k with Vol Graptor, and lulz at the gear being used for boss killing.

[Aine]

Does TeBr have any fallbacks for large AOE and aggro? I want to give it a shot but I'm scared to give up Warcry and KC.

[Z-0]

Does TeBr have any fallbacks for large AOE and aggro? I want to give it a shot but I'm scared to give up Warcry and KC.
Assuming we're talking Tower Defense (hence the want for War Cry specifically), only real fallback for aggro is pre-emptive Gifoie before enemies fully spawn. Hitting a Gold before it hits the ground stops them from running, so using Gifoie > Air Zondeel (not too high obviously) will stop everything caught in Zondeel from running away. Although I'm assuming you'd know this already.

For spawns larger than TB Zondeel though, you're gonna need help, either with second Zondeel or friends to grab aggro for you, I don't think there's really a full substitute for War Cry. Naturally, with Te now having so much power, I'd say the need for Katana Combat has definitely gone down if you can get multiple TEs working at it.

Alternatively, you could just go TeHu. It has generally lower power than TeBr due to the lack of Attack Advance, but Just Attack Boost affects explosions, which would possibly do more damage overall on large mobs, and this would also give you access to War Cry again.

I've not had chance to really try Te majority for TD yet, as none of my friends played it for obvious reasons since it wasn't a great class in comparison to the rest, but I'm trying to convince people to gear it so we can really give it a shot and see if it works. Considering what I've heard about TE recently though, I'm pretty sure it will with a team of good players who don't let leaks through and organise accordingly.

[Z-0]

Double post, but this thread is really far back and I wanted somewhere meaningful to post this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9jjtDF6jfk

The above is Photon Escape stepping, which is essentially the new meta in travelling. It turns out that removing the last step (and step attack) and replacing it with Photon Escape from Blades is a faster way to travel than your usual plain step. In this video, I'm a little slow as I only just got the inputs down 3 minutes ago (too used to penta step, kept jump dashing), but I was still able to beat my 5 step time from one end of Vardha's arena to the other (which, as expected, also beat walking speed, just to clarify).

To use a Photon Escape after a step, you need to cancel your step with a lobby action or jump, just like weapon switching. For those already doing 5 steps, your inputs are exactly the same, except instead of Jump > Step > Step Attack at the end, it's Jump > Photon Escape.

For those new to this, it works as follows:

2 Step Photon Escape

Step > LA > Step > Jump > Photon Escape > Repeat

or (requires 2 different blades for dashing)

WS > Step > Jump > Step > Jump > Photon Escape > Repeat (note, very frame specific, if you rise with the jump before Photon Escape, you won't be able to cancel your next step)

3 Step Photon Escape (requires 2 different blades for dashing)

Step with WS > LA > Step > Jump > Step > Jump > Photon Escape > Repeat

4 Step Photon Escape (write a chat shortcut that reads: /p /la wave /mpal#, where # is the location of your Photon Blades)
Around 300ms ping:

WS (non-blade) > Step with Chat Shortcut > Step (LA) > Jump > Step > Jump > Step > Jump > Photon Escape > Repeat

Lower pings:

WS (non-blade) > Step > Jump > Step with Chat Shortcut > Step (LA) > Jump > Step > Jump > Photon Escape > Repeat (also frame specific... you'll need to be good at this! Rising slightly with the jump before Photon Escape will allow you to not cancel the next step)

1 Step Photon Escape can also work, but it's extremely frame specific if you use jump to cancel (if you rise at all, you can't jump cancel the next step), or you need really good ping that your LA can recover by the time you use it again. Unfortunately I can't really do 1-step since my ping is 300ms; the LA doesn't recover in time from my last usage.

Enjoy. o.o

[WildarmsRE5]

aaaaaaaand that's how players find another means of going faster asdsfasdgasg.

*readies fingers*

[Z-0]

As an add:

If you do this, take the weapon "Grand Cross/Licht". It turns out that they've added weapons which let you use certain PAs regardless of your class. This particular weapon allows you to use Destruct Wing no matter what your class combinations are.

Other weapons that are like this are the Kuroto Mechguns and the Io Bow, which allow you to use Elder Rebellion and Master Shoot, respectively (I think, anyway... someone might want to double check this).

[Hrith]

Yeah, not legit is not legit =/

[milranduil]

Yeah, not legit is not legit =/

Clarify.

[Rehal]

omg hacker botter cheater exploiter macroer repoted (･ω･｀)

[Kamekur]

Yeah, not legit is not legit =/

Your stupidity is not legit.

[Shadowth117]

Yeah, not legit is not legit =/

Modern fighting games literally would not exist if people weren't able to accept things like this. As you might have guessed by what I said, fighting games weren't originally made with combos in mind. The devs just threw a bunch of moves on characters and realized only after the fact that players had found ways to chain them together. Its kind of a similar thing here.

Disliking things like this is what it is, but there's nothing illegitimate about it. Though I personally dislike dash exploits and the like, but I still went out of my way to learn them. Like it or not, these things are a part of the game. They're perfectly legit until the day SEGA patches them out which seems unlikely now. Perhaps one day straight running will outclass this stuff, but that day is not today.

Edit: Also, thank you Zyn for posting that. It appears rather helpful.

[Z-0]

As an add, SEGA have acknowledged dash exploits and said themselves they are a part of the game and a viable technique for travelling. In their most recent statement about run speed, the acceleration is so that step cancel is a viable technique for short-term travel, while long-term travel can be ran. Now, the case is that stepping is better for long-term travel too, mainly due to the existence of travel PAs, but it's not that significantly better anymore.

To claim that step exploits are illegitimate is nothing but ignorance, honestly. Perhaps they were not intentional in the first place, but they have been acknowledged for at least over a year by the developers (since the first Arks GP at the latest), and are very much legitimate. I mean, come on, 会一太郎さん has been doing step cancels on streams, so it's obviously not something they plan to patch out.

[Kondibon]

As long as you aren't trying to force it on other people I don't see what the problem is anyway.

[n_n]

As long as you aren't trying to force it on other people ...
and nobody has been forcing others to use step cancel...

edit:

@hrith: why is stepping not 'legit?' i remember last year you threw a hissy fit because of a stepping guide being posted on this forum...

is it because you can't execute it? are you mad because people pass you easily? or are you too lazy to learn it?

either way, you need to grow up and accept it's existence. also, you have no say in what is legit or not.... leave that to sega lol

[SakoHaruo]

I wasn't sure if photon blades dash made you faster or not, then I saw a RaBr using it in a Amd TA (which reminded me about the limited edition weapon that comes with an all class PA, so I rush to the player shop and bought one while they were still cheap) and now this video. Well I guess I'll be keeping it, and it looks like this has also killed partisan dashing. :(

Exploits make any game fun and finding them yourself is even better. As Shadow said, exploits make Fighting games, without them they wouldn't be as popular as they are today. Things like Kara Throwing have been in fighting games since... forever. It's an exploit That developers have always acknowledge during balance changes and have always left them in the game, and sometimes they even balance certain characters around said exploit.

Every character in every fighting games since the beginning of time, who has a Forward(Direction) + Button attack has a Kara Throw. It doesn't matter which company made the game, Kara Throws are always there and it is indeed an exploit. Virtual Fighter has them, Street Fighter has them, Tekken has them, King of Fighters has them, Blazblue has them, Dead or Alive has them, every single Fighting game has a Kara exploit!

[Kondibon]

and nobody has been forcing others to use step cancel...That was my point.

[Arkanoid]

Every character in every fighting games since the beginning of time, who has a Forward(Direction) + Button attack has a Kara Throw. It doesn't matter which company made the game, Kara Throws are always there and it is indeed an exploit. Virtual Fighter has them, Street Fighter has them, Tekken has them, King of Fighters has them, Blazblue has them, Dead or Alive has them, every single Fighting game has a Kara exploit!

God dammit!

Virtua, not Virtual (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22virtua%2C+not+virtual%22)

Also I'm pretty sure Virtua Fighter does not have kara throws.

[SakoHaruo]

If I knew you were going to nitpick I would have used Kara cancel instead. Kara in fighting games is to cancel a attack which moves the character slightly forward (usually the inputs being Forword + Button, but some character have special moves that can be Kara'd) into something else. Can you Kara in VF? Yes, yes you can.

The point is... exploits that do not break the game extend the life of a game, but at the same time, not all exploits are good. Removing quad/penta 100 god steps would only anger the community that loves this kind of stuff, and it's not like people are forcing anybody to learn them. You have the right to choose not to learn anything in the game. That's why you see players running around with shitty gear and don't give a fuck if you call them out about it because they've already made their decision.

[Shadowth117]

1 Step Photon Escape can also work, but it's extremely frame specific if you use jump to cancel (if you rise at all, you can't jump cancel the next step), or you need really good ping that your LA can recover by the time you use it again. Unfortunately I can't really do 1-step since my ping is 300ms; the LA doesn't recover in time from my last usage.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mYCIL4C9NU

I just want to point out that it doesn't seem to be frame perfect. I may be doing something very wrong, but if that's correct (aside from minor timing errors) than imo I find it easier than lobby action dashing.

But regardless of skill involved, I think its worth trying for everyone. Certainly doesn't lag other people unlike the old method and it frees up palette space.

[Z-0]

I'm probably just really bad at it, honestly. I had trouble doing jump steps, while I found LA'ing perfectly fine.

[milranduil]

Revival bump.

Alter TA Solo

Milranduil - ... - Ra/Br - 5:33
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBNRgPo-_es
[/spoiler-box]

[RealKillaK]

Revival bump.

Alter TA Solo

Milranduil - ... - Ra/Br - 5:33
[spoiler-box]
Alter TA RaBr 5:33 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBNRgPo-_es)
[/spoiler-box]
Someone needs practice with nifta ;-; (also you can't load kc at gate? rip your loading time).

[milranduil]

Someone needs practice with nifta ;-; (also you can't load kc at gate? rip your loading time).

I need .5 more seconds to use it with 2 kanran and position finish correctly. rip. I locked onto the wrong enemy in the switch room lol.

[SakoHaruo]

Man, you EN tryhards just keep getting better and better.

[Ordy]

That 3:25 godmode Fordoransa...

I wonder if a RaHu can one hit Aiming Shot the 3 mobs before Vol room using a Caliburnus

Also... I feel that some parts could have been done faster if you were simply running :|

Nice to watch, post more :3

[milranduil]

That 3:25 godmode Fordoransa...

I wonder if a RaHu can one hit Aiming Shot the 3 mobs before Vol room using a Caliburnus

Also... I feel that some parts could have been done faster if you were simply running :|

Nice to watch, post more :3

It can with the same stuff that I was using easily. Number to shoot for is 39k to one shot Fordoransa. Also, with RaHu I can use Ex Laser (too poor for Noire because Southern cost a lot to grind/reaffix today ;_; ) with S-def Up1 Lv 2 on my Hu tree because why not! With charged PAs, the damage is almost the same with RaBr vs. RaHu. Also, I was really frustrated and tired when recording this meaning many of steps are bad, missing normals (Vol should have popped but I missed) missing WB on quartz. I need to record a new run, but RNG of first room and timing SatCannon on Goronzoran crystals give me 10 types of cancer ._.b maybe later.

Edit:

Naberius 2 TA Solo
Milranduil - Mireyuna - TeBr - 4:08
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9v9hbeLhOw
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[SeYc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbBi6aKARIU

Someone can explain me how he can kill all the garongos with just 1 satellite cannon?
Is it some kind of bug?

[Z-0]

I want to call it a "bug", but it's more like the way the TA quests are programmed.

In the TA quests Naberius II, Altar and Wopal (don't know about the other three), all enemies spawn for a split second in the very centre of the map, which means that if you leave an attack that lasts (such as Satellite Cannon), you can kill a bunch of stuff on spawn. This works in every area you can reach the middle, but it's not useful except in Nab2 A1 and both areas of Wopal TA.

Unfortunately, since enemy spawns are subject to latency, it's harder to do if you're not in Japan.

I do it myself in an old bad video of mine here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe_-GBKB5_0

[SeYc]

Thanks for the explanation.

Also, did he kill the birds with cosmo breaker or is it with the same satellite cannon?

Anyways, like you said, not like i would be able to do it with my latency.

[Z-0]

Killed them with Satellite Cannon. If you sit under the rock (don't jump, don't move away from it), the birds don't spawn, so you can charge an attack such as Ilfoie or Cannon and then move away to kill the birds and everything else.

[Titan]

Okay, someone explain the first room in this video. :-?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24460319

[SeYc]

Okay, someone explain the first room in this video. :-?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24460319

I guess is the same explanation. Instead of satellite cannon he uses zondel/ilfoe to get the same effect, kill all the mobs in 1 blow.
As Z-0 said, after killing the 1st wave, the next wave doesnt show up until you move, so you can charge a PA/Technic, release it in the center of the map and then move to kill all the mobs.

PD: O_o mfw I saw him using elysion until I realize it was crafted

[AlphawingEX]

Here we go. Just wanted to Time Attack before Elysion gets nerfed.

Naberius II Time Attack solo

GiroEX - Giro - Te/Fi - 3:42

[SPOILER-BOX]PSO2 ?????? SH TA Te/Fi ?? 4:33 - YouTube (http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSWvJW-zgQ)[/SPOILER-BOX]

[ReverseSeraf]

I feel like I'm gonna get a lot of shit from Sako for this ^^;

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW-FRJEhA7w


ReverseSeraf - Lenalee - Ra/Br

[SPOILER-BOX]Rockbear: 4 seconds
Caterdransa: 12 seconds
Vol Dragon: 15 seconds
Gwanahda: 4 seconds
De Malmoth: 12 seconds
Snow Banshee and Banther: 26 seconds
Mizer: 11 seconds
Big Vardha: 44 seconds
Quartz Dragon: 15 seconds
Wolgahda: 6 seconds
Zeshrayda: 31 seconds
Goronzoran: 13 seconds
Dragon EX: 24 seconds
Org Blan: 11 seconds
Bal Rodos: 15 seconds
Vardha Soma: 17 seconds
Blu Ringahda: 11 seconds
Decol Malluda: 14 seconds
Biol Meduna: 9 seconds[/SPOILER-BOX]

EDIT: WHY WON'T YOU AUTO-YOUTUBE-BOX THING

[Bellion]

Shorten the link starting from the www. to the last w before the &.

[ReverseSeraf]

You are a god amongst men

[SakoHaruo]

Don't worry. I don't see Pink anywhere in the video, so you ain't getting shit from me ._.b

[ReverseSeraf]

Don't worry. I don't see Pink anywhere in the video, so you ain't getting shit from me ._.b

You'd give me shit if I showed you Pink? No more waifus for you :wacko:

[Z-0]

I didn't watch your video all the way through, but I do have one piece of advice:
After using Banish Arrow, use a normal attack to start the 3 second countdown (normal attack must connect). It will detonate right after Last Nemesis hits in this case, saving you a good 2-3 seconds per boss you used the Banish/Nemesis combo on.

Also, I might as well post this here, but I won't be posting anymore TA / TD / whatever videos anymore, as I've decided to stop playing PSO2JP. I know I haven't really done anything in a while, since I did get banned and had to start from scratch, but I'm pretty much back to the point I was before, and I've only ever been more and more demotivated as I've gotten back up.

I have one reason for not playing anymore: Ping inferiority.
When casually playing PSO2, ping isn't really a problem, since you can still kill things, you can still get experience, you can still get loot, etc. etc. Nothing really changes, but when you get into the metagame, ping is a very big thing.

- Enemies spawning slower is the biggest problem. This means:
-- Respawn kill (also known as chain kill) loses most of its effectiveness. This loses you time in Time Attack. This causes 2-point bursts in AQ to be a load of garbage (well, not really, but they're not amazing). TD2 has huge delays in its spawns, if doing it fast you will notice a lot of downtime. Of course, when it comes to TA, this is a HUGE problem in Naberius 2 and Wopal TA, due to their massive Respawn Kills.

- Non-instant weapon switching.
-- Maybe at 100-150ms ping this isn't really a problem, but at 300ms ping, this is a very big problem. While I can still do all the steps, I have to do 5+ steps in a very unorthodox manner, and 6 step at full speed is out of the question. In addition to this, if you ever just need to switch immediately, such as some point in midair, it's not going to happen. You can buffer weapon switches, but this is not always viable when going fast. Also, jumping does not cause weapons to switch faster, I am not sure who started this. It's the other way around: Weapon switches cancel jumps, which is why you can use weapon switches to cancel dashes: The jump cancels the dash, and the jump is cancelled by the weapon switch.

- Damage Register takes a while
-- In so many words, things die slower. This means over the course of a TA, time will build up. This is bad, very bad. Look at my 2:58 4P Naberius 2 video to see what I mean. Look at how long the damage takes to appear after hitting the Mammoths. (http://youtu.be/pe_-GBKB5_0?t=1m10s) PS: Yes, we know this Nab2 is very bad, pls no bully.

- Tower Defense is a mess
-- Since the Tower Defenses attempt to sync every enemy and not just bosses, Tower Defense is a pretty hot mess sometimes. Since everyone has varying ping, and it's rather high, you will notice a lot of warps and a lot of things walking straight out of Zondeel. This fucks up many strats, and overall loses time. We still haven't managed to get 5-run TD1 yet because of all these problems.

- Load Times
-- Yep. Not much to say. Higher ping makes it take longer for the client to grab map data from the server, since things aren't preloaded in this game because #SEGA.

In short, I can't really do what I want to do. I still enjoy doing organised Tower Defense and actually doing TA, but now people are getting much better, and fighting against superior JP ping is not fun anymore. Sure, I could just disregard JPTA and stuff, but if my team's name isn't on that IR banner simply because of inferior ping, it's pretty demotivating and not fun. I want to compete and I want to accomplish being able to get first on equal grounds, but on PSO2JP it's not going to happen.

In addition to this, the amount of "hardcore" EN players on PSO2JP is approaching zero. I hardly have full groups for the Tower Defenses anymore, except at night, and even then I need to get a few random people. It's not fun not having a group to play with. Solo play in this game is enjoyable, but PSO2 pretty much forces multiplayer for some things, and PUG is not exactly an enjoyable experience. Haven't done a PUG TD in forever.
Don't get me wrong though, there are some really good players. ChinaSue, Bellion, Quilin, Syhon, EN SkyLimited (who are all better than me, btw), but the community is small and it's not really enough to properly enjoy the game. I'm sure they'll keep playing and doing amazing things as always, but I can't keep fighting ping anymore.

I'll be patiently waiting for PSO2P or PSO2NA, where I'll actually be able to do what I want to do. My ping to NA servers in Seattle on the West Coast is 30ms, so I shouldn't really have any problems unless the servers for those are extremely bad. PSO2JP just doesn't hold any sentimental value to me anymore. The extra "content" on JP is just the exact same thing made to look different everytime, and a lot of extra costumes, which I don't care for at all. Considering all I ever did was grind AQ, play EQs and TAs (because these things were the only things worth doing), a backdated server is not going to make much of a difference to how this game will be played.

And with that, I leave you with a video I never made public before: A 4-run TD2 we did a long time ago during Episode 2. This is the FO perspective. This is also bad, as we have done better now in Episode 3 using like 8 FOs instead of 2. I wonder if 5-run TD2 is possible like TD1... ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujKdHAl-NhU

Please note that the map is up the entire time, as we were still learning spawns and I wanted some sort of reference to start writing down patterns. I don't have a more recent video without it.

Edit: Also this Amduscia. It's bad, done during Episode 2, but it's something. . _.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvt6dq23V5E

5:21 - Syhon (HuBr), +-x/ (BrHu), Bellion (RaHu), Matt (RaBr)

[ReverseSeraf]

I didn't watch your video all the way through, but I do have one piece of advice:
After using Banish Arrow, use a normal attack to start the 3 second countdown (normal attack must connect). It will detonate right after Last Nemesis hits in this case, saving you a good 2-3 seconds per boss you used the Banish/Nemesis combo on.

I'm well aware of that: you see me using it for Bal Rodos. The video was more for providing consistent speed kills as opposed to RNG speed kills: a lot of the time, you see me barely pulling off the Final Nemesis before the boss either attempts to move away or attacks me. There's been a lot of time where I couldn't pull off the Final Nemesis because of random boss behavior, which is more than enough to give me brain cancer. It could also be due to my sloppy execution.

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

[Z-0]

A couple of them I saw were like "why didn't you use normal attack1?!?!1!?" (eg: banther for sure), but I definitely feel you when it comes to bosses doing stupid shit and ruining runs. Sorry for jumping the gun there, I just never have the patience to get to the end of boss-run videos. :p

[SakoHaruo]

I didn't read your post all the way though, but I do have one piece of advice:




DON'T YOU FUCKING DIE ON US, ZYN-KUN!!!!. NO, THIS CAN'T BE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[ReverseSeraf]

A couple of them I saw were like "why didn't you use normal attack1?!?!1!?" (eg: banther for sure), but I definitely feel you when it comes to bosses doing stupid shit and ruining runs. Sorry for jumping the gun there, I just never have the patience to get to the end of boss-run videos. :p

Nothing to be sorry about. Criticism is always good. I might redo the video with the proper builds, buffs, actually using normal attack strat thing, etc.

[un1t27]

Bye faggot.

[Ordy]

Found this SH Vorpal TA run on niconico [Ra/Hu]

Notice the two spawn exploits (like NabII A1 rock kills)

0:28 and 5:38

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24828832

[SakoHaruo]

I came in here expecting EN. :(

Fun fact: 99% of the tryhards I speak to makeup excuses why they can't TA and yet they wanna be around the TAers/good players, lol.

I know fools who just wanna dash because it was the cool thing to do and call themselves good even though they are not even decent at TAing.

[FireswordRus]

Rare Snow Cats for 36 sec, bots in the passive mode. Fi/Hu, Tree buf - deffence (in that time we are dont have attack buff)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0etmK-z4YDc

[n_n]

wut, people still post here?

[milranduil]

Rare Snow Cats for 36 sec, bots in the passive mode. Fi/Hu, Tree buf - deffence (in that time we are dont have attack buff)
Rare Snow Cats for 36 sec - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0etmK-z4YDc)

Straight up BHS spam is faster than this . -.

[Ordy]

U.D. - SH Nab II - Hunter main - Sword only (well, DB for dash+nifta) - 3:09

This thread needs more TA love o3o

[PSO2]TAナベリウスⅡSH 移動PB以外ソード縛り 3:09！[筋肉HuFi]チャージ短縮後. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL5X-MSPOg4)

[Mildora]

I seen that when it was released. Guys got some nice shoes on to run that fast with hu.

[BeHummer]

I guess i might try ^^, is Emergency ok?

Yurikago (Craddle of Darkness) XH solo
TheGospel - ミサキ - Gu/Ra

[SPOILER-BOX]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X5D7AT4Fiw[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Remz69]

i don't really keep up with TA strats sooo

is there an easier way to do this on an euw garbage connection ? I'm assusming this shortcut is known but it's a pretty tight fit with my method

[SPOILER-BOX]amduscia shortcut (www.youtube.com/watch?v=zopvnaAUmgk)[/SPOILER-BOX]

[AlphawingEX]

Thought I'd revive this thread with my recent accomplishment.

Sanctum Time Attack solo

GiroEX - Giro - Te/Br - 3:47

[SPOILER-BOX]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uNjXjLCyzI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uNjXjLCyzI[/SPOILER-BOX]