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Fubu
Nov 2, 2013, 06:07 PM
Hello! I just had a quick question regarding the weapon pass.

(Assuming I have Premium) Can I use a 10* weapon from the rare stone shop to get a pass? Also, Premium doesn't automatically come with a pass does it?

Maninbluejumpsuit
Nov 2, 2013, 06:09 PM
Stone shop weapons cannot be used for passes.

Premium doesn't give you a free 10* purchase pass.

BTW: you can trade non-stone shop weapons while premium is active for passes. After that, you can use the passes at any time. Premium does not need to be active to use them; only to accquire them.

Fubu
Nov 2, 2013, 06:16 PM
Thanks for the speedy reply. Is there something besides AQ that you would recommend in order to get a 10* weapon? I have a 10* armor but I hear that's also a no go...

gigawuts
Nov 2, 2013, 06:17 PM
Do the matterboards. You can get 5 10*s from them right now. I think it's 5, at least. It might be 6.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Nov 2, 2013, 06:33 PM
Like giga said, later matter boards award 10* weapons (The all class tmgs are probably worth like 3 mil+ though. Hold on to that).

There's also falz who drops his weapons like they're going out of style (which they are). None of the falz themed 10 stars worth anything outside of an excube, or pass.

One more thing for clarification since you may be confused about it, you can trade 10* units for 10* unit purchase passes.

Weapon for weapon pass.

Unit for unit pass.

Emp
Nov 2, 2013, 06:35 PM
Do the matterboards. You can get 5 10*s from them right now. I think it's 5, at least. It might be 6.

This but I highly protest this idea. The two 10* on mb 14, the tmgs and sword, and rod on mb13 are very useful all class weps that are great to lvl those annoying subclasses that you dont main. Mb has that all class gs but idk if ppl still use it.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Nov 2, 2013, 06:38 PM
all class gs

Gunslashes can be all class?! :-o

Obvious silliness aside, no one really uses it much. A zanba has more longevity in terms of being useful. The GS doesn't do anything unique compared to the rest of the category, so it's really the first 10* weapon you'd want to trade for a cube/pass.

Emp
Nov 2, 2013, 06:42 PM
Gunslashes can be all class?! :-o

Obvious silliness aside, no one really uses it much. A zanba has more longevity in terms of being useful.

Oh thx man. I was thinking when I said that lol

Fubu
Nov 2, 2013, 07:21 PM
Thank you all so much. I think I'll go ahead and complete the matter board seeing as how this seems to be the easiest and most tedious. Also, thanks for clarifying about the armor.

Emp
Nov 2, 2013, 07:24 PM
Thank you all so much. I think I'll go ahead and complete the matter board seeing as how this seems to be the easiest and most tedious. Also, thanks for clarifying about the armor.

U can rebuy them but youll regret the fact that you got those all class weps for free. Those tmgs are great if you want sub gu as u lvl hu.

gigawuts
Nov 2, 2013, 07:50 PM
The goron rod is pretty mediocre. You're better off turning it into a pass and using that pass to buy an umbra stick (if only for the temptation & lucky rise combo), lillipan rod, or one of the newer multiclass rods (although they're a tad pricey right now).

Otherwise yeah, right now the Fortuna is the best 10* allclass sword you can get (and an all around decent one full stop, although it's nothing spectacular) and the H10 is the "best" allclass mechgun you can get but still pretty terrible.

Fubu
Nov 2, 2013, 08:51 PM
I'll definitely keep the tmgs and the sword then. Right now I'm leveling my gu/ra, and my gu is only level 33. However he's just reached 560 r-atk, so I want to go ahead and get a pair of Yas9000m's.

Though eventually I plan on going gu/hu so I'll definitely keep those! Thank you for the suggestion.

Avereth CAST
Nov 2, 2013, 09:03 PM
What's gotten me 10 star weapons the most is a combination of Falz spam, sitting in MPAs for hours during rare boost events, running EQs in either an MPA zone in area 2 or spamming its boss for things like the new border break or vardha. If you can find a party then spamming an area boss during an Interrupt Ranking is also exceedingly useful. I've collected so many 10 stars from blu and gwanahda interrupts, for example.

Outside of that, the RNG gods must look favorably upon you as you grind and grind for hours, turning into weeks in MPAs and turn those piles of lili rods and bloody arts into cubes or passes.

TaigaUC
Nov 2, 2013, 09:48 PM
I really like how the H10 looks. Shame it's not also a camo or something.

Easiest way to get 10 stars was to do that Lilipa EQ with the Transmizers at the start, on SH difficulty.
Sadly, I tried to do it this morning but there were only about 8 people doing it on all of ship 2.
You can still do the start pretty easily with a small group, though. Just slower.

Shinamori
Nov 2, 2013, 10:54 PM
It's better to do the trick or treat one for 10*. Drop rate seems to be increase in that EQ.

Avereth CAST
Nov 2, 2013, 11:30 PM
Trick of Treat 2 has a tendency to spawn barbarilipans in sets of 4. You are extremely likely to get a lili rod from one of those four. One time I even got two of the rods, and all of this was unboosted. Rare somas are also frequent, though no luck of free 10 stars from them yet.

The current tiering of popularity for Lilipa seems to be:

Trick of Treat 2
Border Break 2
Vardha Extermination
Desert Guerrillas

It's important to observe shifting trends and follow the crowd, basically.
Also, be sure to save rare boosters for events that provide frequent bosses and/or rare boss appearances rather than things where you only fight a boss once like Falz, or have to make a long trip, like Interrupt Rankings, and don't use the boost until the boss you want appears, or a rare version appears. Also saving them to use on top of a rare boost event or in an EQ where there are some boosts going on is definitely a good strategy too.

Emp
Nov 3, 2013, 12:06 AM
Trick of Treat 2 has a tendency to spawn barbarilipans in sets of 4. You are extremely likely to get a lili rod from one of those four. One time I even got two of the rods, and all of this was unboosted. Rare somas are also frequent, though no luck of free 10 stars from them yet.

The current tiering of popularity for Lilipa seems to be:

Trick of Treat 2
Border Break 2
Vardha Extermination
Desert Guerrillas

It's important to observe shifting trends and follow the crowd, basically.
Also, be sure to save rare boosters for events that provide frequent bosses and/or rare boss appearances rather than things where you only fight a boss once like Falz, or have to make a long trip, like Interrupt Rankings, and don't use the boost until the boss you want appears, or a rare version appears. Also saving them to use on top of a rare boost event or in an EQ where there are some boosts going on is definitely a good strategy too.

I disagree with this post entirely. Yes the lilipans spawn in sets of 4 but the rod is dropped at the same rate as any other 10*. And that rate is shit.

Also you are wasting rare boosters on eqs thay have frequent bosses cause you are betting on the fact that u will encounter . In eqs like trick or treat 2, u are more likely to go home with a bag of Rappy rods and rods than anything good. Just save all ur boosters for Extreme quests, cause you will need them whenever u start ur stone gathering.

I mean why not use boosters on Rankings. Ya they are boosted to 400%, and it caps at 500%, but it doesnt hurt. Just get a friend of ur to walk to A3, while u sit in the ship.

Avereth CAST
Nov 3, 2013, 12:51 AM
If you're going to disagree with my post entirely, you're going to need to explain all the parts you disagreed with you mentioned nothing about, like the tiering list and all the advice unrelated to what you did disagree with. :P

People claimed pico hammers were bad rates too, and I got at least 12 of those without boosts. You need to play pretty consistently to see any rares, not just casually playing a handful of hours a week all by yourself. I've definitely gotten an average of 1 lili rod per 4 barbarilipans, though. Perhaps I've been lucky, but it seems unlikely after so many rods. I didn't get to over 70 excubes not knowing what I am doing or observing rare trends that work.

You could use boosts on exq, but a lot of us are hoarding the passes ever since it was hinted they wanted to add higher mode exqs. I don't really care if this gamble fails because at the rate Sega outdates things the current exq items will be old news in no time anyway.

The OP is not interested in finding out anything but how to get 10 star items anyway, so advice about exqs does nothing for them.

Rankings would be very good if you had someone willing to carry you, yes.

Sizustar
Nov 3, 2013, 01:18 AM
I disagree with this post entirely. Yes the lilipans spawn in sets of 4 but the rod is dropped at the same rate as any other 10*. And that rate is shit.

Also you are wasting rare boosters on eqs thay have frequent bosses cause you are betting on the fact that u will encounter . In eqs like trick or treat 2, u are more likely to go home with a bag of Rappy rods and rods than anything good. Just save all ur boosters for Extreme quests, cause you will need them whenever u start ur stone gathering.

I mean why not use boosters on Rankings. Ya they are boosted to 400%, and it caps at 500%, but it doesnt hurt. Just get a friend of ur to walk to A3, while u sit in the ship.

I've only done 3 Trick or Treat 2, but I got 16 10* weapon already, none boosted.
But in those three party, I was able to join my team, where we do PSE-Burst and Cross Burst for over 10 min.

Shinamori
Nov 3, 2013, 07:04 AM
ToT2 is pretty decent for 10*. Yes, you'll end up with a bag rappy dropping, but you're bound to get a 10* or two. Also, you're probably better off getting some of the new 10* rares since a lot of the new 10* units/weapon out-class some or almost of the 11* stuff.

Neith
Nov 3, 2013, 11:09 AM
For normal areas outside of emergency quests, I'd recommend running Quarry. I seem to get Bloody Arts fairly often there, and they seem to be one of the only 10* weapons I regularly get.

Friyn
Nov 3, 2013, 12:46 PM
I disagree with this post entirely. Yes the lilipans spawn in sets of 4 but the rod is dropped at the same rate as any other 10*. And that rate is shit.

Also you are wasting rare boosters on eqs thay have frequent bosses cause you are betting on the fact that u will encounter . In eqs like trick or treat 2, u are more likely to go home with a bag of Rappy rods and rods than anything good. Just save all ur boosters for Extreme quests, cause you will need them whenever u start ur stone gathering.

I mean why not use boosters on Rankings. Ya they are boosted to 400%, and it caps at 500%, but it doesnt hurt. Just get a friend of ur to walk to A3, while u sit in the ship.

I have to disagree with the Lili Rod part. I've gotten 6 Lili Rods so far, all of them without a booster. And I too dropped 2 rods from one set of Barbalilipans. Either I've just been extremely lucky or then there's some serious hidden boosts going on, what might be very likely because I've gotten close to 20x 10* rares from ToT2.

gigawuts
Nov 3, 2013, 12:51 PM
Probably both, Friyn. I've killed a around 30 barbarillipans and found exactly two rares: a shigno braver and a rod camo. Probably 8 of the hlukipans were in TOT2.

That said, I find rares for days in TOT2 as well, so. My record was 5 without boost in the first run, 6 with boost in the second run.

Fubu
Nov 3, 2013, 06:41 PM
Alright thanks for all the great information everyone! I didn't want to ask this here but since the topic kinda veered off to talking about 10*'s would anyone care to answer another question?

Right now I plan to purchase a Yasminkov 9000M once I get my 10* with the advice you all gave me. However, is there a better tmg that's affordable? Yas piqued my interest because of 'zero effect' and also because of how affordable it is. Right now I only have 6 mill. D:

MetalDude
Nov 3, 2013, 06:45 PM
Flamme Revolver is stronger by a fair margin and relatively cheap while offering the JA Bonus latent.

Exiled_Gundam
Nov 3, 2013, 07:42 PM
If you are tight on cash, follow MetalDude advice and get Flamme Revolver. Y9000M need a lot of money to be strong.

Shinamori
Nov 4, 2013, 07:19 PM
They're both is gonna quite a bit of meseta. My yas9k took like 5~7mil to fully affix and lv3.

WildarmsRE5
Nov 4, 2013, 08:59 PM
you guys and your JA/ZRA TMGs. . .

a real Gunner uses Acidase! *lies down* *tries not to cry* *cry alot*

Emp
Nov 4, 2013, 09:31 PM
If you are tight on cash, follow MetalDude advice and get Flamme Revolver. Y9000M need a lot of money to be strong.

Nah. Im sure there is Yas9000, that level 3 and at least two slots, for under 4m. Cause I for one know that there is quite 2 mill or less on ship 10 shops.

Ungrinded yas on ship 10 is like 400k rofl.



Flamme Revolver is stronger by a fair margin and relatively cheap while offering the JA Bonus latent.

I wouldnt say by fair margin. My yas hits stronger imo.
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