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pkemr4
Dec 16, 2013, 01:58 PM
getting this: http://www.staples.com/iBuyPower-Power-ST702-Gaming-Desktop-PC/product_163905#desc_content

was wondering how this will handle pso2

jooozek
Dec 16, 2013, 02:03 PM
pretty badly considering it doesn't have a separate gpu
edit: actually, it does have a standalone gpu, a GT630, those are pretty bad though

studjuice
Dec 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
I doesn't have a graphics card, and it doesn't have a solid state drive, so it's missing out on those two performance things. The GPU is going to be the main thing hindrance though. You'll be able to play it, but you'll have to put it on low settings probably.

Shinamori
Dec 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
Build a better one for that price. You'll get a much better performance.

jcart953
Dec 16, 2013, 02:47 PM
You can do better then that computer you linked. I'd recommend something like this if your limit is around $700 (the motherboard isn't the greatest but should do depending on needs):

="http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi1000W-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Processor-4GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1/31342476"]http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi1000W-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Processor-4GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1/31342476

It comes with the i5-4670k and hd7750 and according to this link it should run Pso2 pretty decent:

PSO2 GPU benchmark
http://bumped.org/psublog/phantasy-star-online-2-benchmark-analysis/

If you don't like the one I linked you could always try newegg DIY build pcs:
http://www.newegg.com/DIY-PC-Combos/PromotionStore/ID-33

pkemr4
Dec 16, 2013, 03:00 PM
You can do better then that computer you linked. I'd recommend something like this if your limit is around $700 (the motherboard isn't the greatest but should do depending on needs):

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi1000W-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Processor-4GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1/31342476"]http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi1000W-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Processor-4GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1/31342476

It comes with the i5-4670k and hd7750 and according to this link it should run Pso2 pretty decent:

PSO2 GPU benchmark
http://bumped.org/psublog/phantasy-star-online-2-benchmark-analysis/

If you don't like the one I linked you could always try newegg DIY build pcs:
http://www.newegg.com/DIY-PC-Combos/PromotionStore/ID-33

huh. the one you linked from walmart looks really nice i might buy that one instead. didnt know the 7750 beats the 630 GT..... also does windows 8.1 play pso2 and SD gundam?

Shinamori
Dec 16, 2013, 03:09 PM
I highly suggest you buy the parts though. You can use http://pcpartpicker.com/ and compare prices online. It's really not that hard to build a PC and there's tons of guides on the YouTubes. Plus, you save money. And who doesn't love to save money?

jcart953
Dec 16, 2013, 03:12 PM
huh. the one you linked from walmart looks really nice i might buy that one instead. didnt know the 7750 beats the 630 GT..... also does windows 8.1 play pso2 and SD gundam?

Yeah if I remember correctly the hd7750 equivalent for NVidia is suppose to be the gtx650 (non boost).

Not to mention according to site the hd7750 sorta dominates the 630:

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7750-vs-GeForce-GT-630

Pugas87
Dec 16, 2013, 03:22 PM
huh. the one you linked from walmart looks really nice i might buy that one instead. didnt know the 7750 beats the 630 GT..... also does windows 8.1 play pso2 and SD gundam?

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209878&highlight=windows+8.1&page=10

i was interested as well because windows keeps telling me to update to 8.1. That thread says that it works on 8.1.

pkemr4
Dec 16, 2013, 03:26 PM
is there any way to make windows 8.1. look like windows 7 desktop and etc? im not a fan of the whole retro tablet design.

Shinamori
Dec 16, 2013, 03:32 PM
This will probably help you.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7

You also have free alternatives to Start8.
Classic Start 8 (http://www.classicstart8.com/)
StartW8 (http://www.areaguard.com/startw8)

moeri
Dec 16, 2013, 03:38 PM
is there any way to make windows 8.1. look like windows 7 desktop and etc? im not a fan of the whole retro tablet design.

If the machine comes preinstalled with windows you can usually ask the store for a $30 rebate if they uninstall it from the system. They might not know what you are talking about, but it can work out.

Then just buy a copy of windows 7.

pkemr4
Dec 16, 2013, 04:46 PM
mom wont get me the walmart one but i found this: http://www.staples.com/iBuyPower-Power-ST600-Gaming-Desktop-PC/product_163895?externalize=certona

Shinamori
Dec 16, 2013, 06:09 PM
If you want to just play PSO2, then that should be fine.

Lostbob117
Dec 16, 2013, 06:19 PM
You can get a copies of Windows 7 for free somewhere and get a key for free (Illegally), and put it on a CD and make your computer have Windows 7, but I won't say anymore on this subject. I forgot where I got mine.

jcart953
Dec 16, 2013, 07:49 PM
mom wont get me the walmart one but i found this: http://www.staples.com/iBuyPower-Power-ST600-Gaming-Desktop-PC/product_163895?externalize=certona

That one is ok but im not to keen on that cpu, personally I would stick with the I5-4670k as its vastly superior then the fx-4100. I say check these ones out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229496

or

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/gamer-ultra-desktop-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/9177174.p?id=1218994550644&skuId=9177174&st=categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=1&lp=1

or

customize one yourself from here: you can add/subtract things from here:
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Back_To_School_2013

The choices is yours though.

xBladeM6x
Dec 16, 2013, 09:36 PM
PM'ed. OP check your messages. :o

Gama
Dec 17, 2013, 05:35 AM
1 year warranty?

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ce/cef83aab1862226d8a3e109fa7249ec89fc9b0429912c08168 57a5014dd256cb.jpg

we get 2 over here. why do you only get 1?


anyway checked the american staples page and most the computers in your price range, and most of them are not that good/ and look cheap.

jcart953's sugestions were good, and within your price range.

Aeris
Dec 17, 2013, 07:38 AM
1 year warranty?

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ce/cef83aab1862226d8a3e109fa7249ec89fc9b0429912c08168 57a5014dd256cb.jpg

we get 2 over here. why do you only get 1?


anyway checked the american staples page and most the computers in your price range, and most of them are not that good/ and look cheap.

jcart953's sugestions were good, and within your price range.

We get 1 year warranty on most of the tech hardware we buy such as consoles, handhelds, prebuilt PCs, laptops, etc, however for a custom built barebones PC, the warranty varies on each part of the PC ranging from 2-5 years and limited lifetime warranty.

ZIE creations
Dec 17, 2013, 10:34 PM
I would highly recommend ordering individual pieces and building your own PC if you have the time to educate yourself (or can find help). Not only will you get more bang for your buck but you'll learn a lot about what makes a good gaming PC. I have yet to find a pre-built PC from a retailer that doesn't ramp up the cost by adding un-needed features and sacrificing on good components like how most dumb down the graphics card for a bigger hard drive or an extra 4 gigs or System Ram. Not to mention if you build your own you can use Windows 7 with full rights and avoid all the adware they place pre-installed like staples apps.. also you don't have to lose your entire PC if something goes wrong, just replace the faulty part and the warranty will be separate for each piece.

But, then again, if you are just wanting to play PSO2 the requirements are pretty low so you should be fine with nearly anything ^.-