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Horo The Wise Wolf
Jan 15, 2014, 07:54 AM
Incoming 100% Tribooster


プレイ中の皆様へお知らせします。  重大な不具合が確認されたため1月15日(水)22:00よりゲーム サーバーの緊急メンテナンスを行います。  皆様にはご迷惑をおかけいたしますことをお詫び申 し上げます。

Official Site: http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=2902

Macman
Jan 15, 2014, 07:55 AM
Incoming 100% Tribooster
Good, I was running low due to all of the TD.

Shinamori
Jan 15, 2014, 07:57 AM
Incoming 100% Tribooster



That's in a few minutes...

Where was this posted?

Horo The Wise Wolf
Jan 15, 2014, 07:58 AM
In-game announcement.

Funny, New EQ was coming too.

Digital Pain
Jan 15, 2014, 08:00 AM
GG Sega

Shinamori
Jan 15, 2014, 08:01 AM
So, is this like for 6hrs?

BIG OLAF
Jan 15, 2014, 08:01 AM
Well, there goes my idea of hopping online for a second after I finish updating.

Oh well, this doesn't affect me!

Xaelouse
Jan 15, 2014, 08:01 AM
are they gonna fix techer for real this time and make it not suck still...

Sacrificial
Jan 15, 2014, 08:02 AM
haha it was funny to see ppl run towards quest counter cuz EQ then few seconds later .630~

Meji
Jan 15, 2014, 08:02 AM
More info here (http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=2902).

oratank
Jan 15, 2014, 08:02 AM
cross emergency quest one more

Edson Drake
Jan 15, 2014, 08:03 AM
At B14 the Japanese were screaming variations of "HDD wipe again lol" all over the place.

See? It's not just us in here that have grown sarcastic at Sega's mistakes over time.

BlueCast Boy
Jan 15, 2014, 08:03 AM
ugh really SEGA right on where the new Emergency is, they could do this like 23:00 JST(1 hour) orz SEGA better give compensation that like more valuable than triboost 50% (or 100%)

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 08:03 AM
aahahahaha

I literally just wokeup and said "it begins"

I just didn't know what was beginning when I said it

classic Sega

Emp
Jan 15, 2014, 08:03 AM
wow. I start new eq and BAM 630.

deahamlet
Jan 15, 2014, 08:04 AM
I'm not surprised. I had several 630 errors today followed by all servers showing offline until I restarted the game. It was terrible.

somd
Jan 15, 2014, 08:04 AM
no set time for when its due back up either LOL segaaaaa...

doomdragon83
Jan 15, 2014, 08:05 AM
Announce an EQ, kick everyone offline when it starts, amazing job Sega... I may as well get another few hours of sleep since this crap happened.


At B14 the Japanese were screaming variations of "HDD wipe again lol" all over the place.

See? It's not just us in here that have grown sarcastic at Sega's mistakes over time.

I hope that isn't true, it better not.

jooozek
Jan 15, 2014, 08:05 AM
oh, i was wondering why the fuck it cut me off when there was an EQ announced and been spamming for good 3 minutes login

Digital Pain
Jan 15, 2014, 08:06 AM
Servers have been Lagging like shit since it came up after Maint.... so not surprised really!

Jay6
Jan 15, 2014, 08:06 AM
I dunno, did you think that "Emergency Maintenance" message meant AFTER our regularly scheduled emergency quest? NAWWWWW Changeover Code: Maintenance has to happen at some point.

doomdragon83
Jan 15, 2014, 08:06 AM
Announce an EQ, kick everyone offline when it starts, amazing job Sega... I may as well get another few hours of sleep since this crap happened.

Invader J
Jan 15, 2014, 08:07 AM
I heard rumors it was english hackers again

Bit
Jan 15, 2014, 08:07 AM
Damn, was hoping to get into that EQ. Oh well.

landman
Jan 15, 2014, 08:07 AM
Can't they disable automatic EQ when they decide about shutting down for maintenance? lol saw the "golden announcement" but thought it was some ranking as usual xD

tenkennosoujiro
Jan 15, 2014, 08:07 AM
I thought my internet crashed then i realized i'm still talking on skype.... dammit sega of all the timing why during an EQ!?

deahamlet
Jan 15, 2014, 08:08 AM
Announce an EQ, kick everyone offline when it starts, amazing job Sega... I may as well get another few hours of sleep since this crap happened.



I hope that isn't true, it better not.


They'll just add one-two other times for Chaotic. Though I was awake now and who knows when that'll be. I'm off to get more sleep, boo SEGA!

Meji
Jan 15, 2014, 08:08 AM
Announce an EQ, kick everyone offline when it starts, amazing job Sega...
I wouldn't worry too much, though. We'll have that EQ very frequently now.


http://imageshack.com/a/img839/4838/jk3.png

Shinamori
Jan 15, 2014, 08:08 AM
I heard rumors it was english hackers again

No, it wasn't. This happens almost everytime there's a big update.

Bit
Jan 15, 2014, 08:10 AM
I wouldn't worry too much, though. We'll have that EQ very frequently now.


http://imageshack.com/a/img839/4838/jk3.png

Is that 200% exp and 200% rare drop rate I see on the weekend there?

Dnd
Jan 15, 2014, 08:10 AM
Its funny cus for me the servers were responding really well and i had 0 lag everywhere...

of course it was a critical error, their servers cannot possibly be that good...

maybe people actually greatly succeeding with crafting often or getting drops in the EQ 2 hours beforehand was the error?

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 08:11 AM
Is that 200% exp and 200% rare drop rate I see on the weekend there?

For AQs and only AQs, yes.

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 08:11 AM
English hackers with monocles and twirly moustaches.

jooozek
Jan 15, 2014, 08:11 AM
for AQs, yeah

Bit
Jan 15, 2014, 08:12 AM
Oh, rather disappointing.

Dnd
Jan 15, 2014, 08:13 AM
Crafting rollback?
I am NOT smashing over 700 items apart again, losing 12million meseta aswell as lv11 weapon crafting because someone split coffee on the servers..
dun even joke ;~;

jooozek
Jan 15, 2014, 08:14 AM
it's good imo, red weapons are a really great source of the 7-9* crafting materials

Meji
Jan 15, 2014, 08:15 AM
Oh, rather disappointing.Not really, considering Red Weapons have hit about 100k each due to the new Crafting System.

Enforcer MKV
Jan 15, 2014, 08:15 AM
*Sega's telegraph machine starts up*

We apologize for apologizing about apologizing. Here's a tri-booster, sorry. <3

That is all.

But really, at least I don't have to worry about missing anything when I get to work in 2 hours. Servers should be coming back up when I get home at 3pm. 8D

Rehal
Jan 15, 2014, 08:15 AM
(´・ω・`)

Invader J
Jan 15, 2014, 08:16 AM
No, it wasn't. This happens almost everytime there's a big update.

It was a joke, man...

Ratazana
Jan 15, 2014, 08:16 AM
There is a very easy way to make money atm but it's heavy on the servers. My bet would be on that causing the massive lag.

jiasu73
Jan 15, 2014, 08:16 AM
hi apparently the maint was caused by a bug where you were able to dupe crafting materials

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 08:19 AM
hi apparently the maint was caused by a bug where you were able to dupe crafting materials


aahahahaha

classic Sega

boy was I on the mark

Tomo-Kinji
Jan 15, 2014, 08:19 AM
Is the bug a new client order from Klotho?:-P

Or because finding rare boss at new EQ is still rare =w=

Btw, why Persona isn't boosted?

Bit
Jan 15, 2014, 08:19 AM
Not really, considering Red Weapons have hit about 100k each due to the new Crafting System.

Well then, here's hoping they stay that way.

Still just trying to level up myself (just got into the game a few weeks ago).

Sacrificial
Jan 15, 2014, 08:22 AM
and here i though i was lucky for having so many great succeeds .......

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 08:22 AM
Seems like there are several bugs being reported:
- HDD burst?
- Crafted weapons losing their minimum damage range and becoming garbage
- Duping materials, as mentioned above
- Wand Lovers SATK bonus doesn't affect non-wands (probably intentional)

Geistritter
Jan 15, 2014, 08:26 AM
I'd be rather cool with them rubbing out the Dex modifier if that's what it was taken back down for.

SociableTyrannosaur
Jan 15, 2014, 08:42 AM
I kinda hope for a rollback. I'm so disappointed with this system it's not even funny

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 08:45 AM
I think most of us are disappointed with the system.
Not that it wasn't expected, of course.

Z-0
Jan 15, 2014, 08:45 AM
Duping is what brought the servers down I do believe, hence the emergency.

Apparently crafting materials were able to be duped upon block change under certain circumstances (I don't know what they are, don't ask me), which is why the server went down so suddenly.

If it was anything else I highly doubt there would've been an emergency (then again they did an emergency once because Naura spawned incorrectly lol).

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 08:47 AM
I think it's once again pretty clear that SEGA never actually tests anything.

"Bug test team. Can you log in?"
"Yeah."
"Perfect. Let's put all the servers up."

Kondibon
Jan 15, 2014, 08:48 AM
I think most of us are disappointed with the system.
Not that it wasn't expected, of course.I'm not, but I had lower expectations apparently.


I think it's once again pretty clear that SEGA never actually tests anything.
As someone who's seen a lot of games develop weird out of the way duping glitches get through pretty easily. If what Z-0 says is true, then there's probably just a handful of people who figured it out by accident. If we wanna talk about Sega not testing stuff let's talk about balance.

landman
Jan 15, 2014, 08:58 AM
If I have a log in my documents telling line by line were my items are coming from, it's obvious Sega has one too, I hope they care to check this and do the necessary actions to duppers, and let the legitimate players that play normally be, a roll-back even for a few hours is not fair.

Galax
Jan 15, 2014, 09:01 AM
Honestly I'd rather deal with more maint than insane lag and dupe glitches.

Then again, I remember the Machinegun Glitch on PSU, and I do /not/ recall SEGA ever finding a way to really get rid of that one fully until /very/ late in the game. I have no real faith that they'll solve all this.

Gypsy72
Jan 15, 2014, 09:01 AM
It's for the zero that dropped off the cost for aqs..

Kondibon
Jan 15, 2014, 09:02 AM
It's for the zero that dropped off the cost for aqs..That was intentional, it's in the patch notes.

Gypsy72
Jan 15, 2014, 09:02 AM
Honestly I'd rather deal with more maint than insane lag and dupe glitches.

Then again, I remember the Machinegun Glitch on PSU, and I do /not/ recall SEGA ever finding a way to really get rid of that one fully until /very/ late in the game. I have no real faith that they'll solve all this.

It took awhile.

Gypsy72
Jan 15, 2014, 09:03 AM
That was intentional, it's in the patch notes.

I know...bored...

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 09:04 AM
The critical issue is that we were able to log-in during debugging.

Psycl0ne
Jan 15, 2014, 09:05 AM
dammit I had my Metroid Prime Battle theme song ready as I got pso2 running for the EQ and this happens :/

Saffran
Jan 15, 2014, 09:06 AM
It's 2014 and we have to explain what a rollback is?
I'm too old for this...

Alma
Jan 15, 2014, 09:08 AM
From the game:


Crafting rollback?

i don't think so, unless sega ready to face the rage of million pso2 player that has trying really hard to lving up craft, extend, desynth, etc since the server opened.

Ce'Nedra
Jan 15, 2014, 09:10 AM
It's 2014 and we have to explain what a rollback is?
I'm too old for this...

*pats* there there, it's okay

I'm honestly not surprised about another emergency maintenance. It's more standard then exception.

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 09:13 AM
JP people are discussing rollback as well.

At least if they do rollback it'll only be a few hours (assuming they had enough brainpower to backup the database during maintenance).
Not weeks and shit like some of the shitty games I've played.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 09:14 AM
*pats* there there, it's okay

I'm honestly not surprised about another emergency maintenance. It's more standard then exception.

Seriously. I mean, I still treat all you guys as my labrats for determining if the game will delete my entire computer, so this is just standard fare tbh.

Ce'Nedra
Jan 15, 2014, 09:15 AM
I still treat all you guys as my labrats

Oh great what Number am I? ;3

Shirai
Jan 15, 2014, 09:18 AM
if there's a rollback...
end of DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS

if rollback, i hope i have better luck with great successes this time.

jooozek
Jan 15, 2014, 09:20 AM
its funny how segac moved the update from december to january to avoid fuck ups like the todays one
shit happened anyway and we get our dripfeed a month later

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 09:20 AM
Oh great what Number am I? ;3

I haven't trained any of you to pull a number from the ticket machine yet, so none of you have one yet.

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 09:21 AM
I don't think they moved it to avoid fuck ups. That's our logical assumption.
I think they moved it because it took them this long to get it working without the game imploding.

Or item customization originally worked differently, and they realized it was either too powerful or completely broken after they implemented it and had to completely redo it.


As someone who's seen a lot of games develop weird out of the way duping glitches get through pretty easily. If what Z-0 says is true, then there's probably just a handful of people who figured it out by accident. If we wanna talk about Sega not testing stuff let's talk about balance.

Yeah but I wasn't only talking about the duping.
There've been lots of other bizarre issues after every major patch.
And yes, i was referring to balance as well.

Shinureal
Jan 15, 2014, 09:28 AM
Only good news is: I have plenty of homework I have to finish today.











:)

WildarmsRE5
Jan 15, 2014, 09:30 AM
"we'll be doing a rollback, we apologize for the players for the inconvinience. . . here have a 100% tri-boost along with a 50% Tri-boost"

CanaanAzure
Jan 15, 2014, 09:34 AM
I just want to use my skill reset... D;
I dont even want to play! I just want to reconfig my tree damn it.

//sob

supersonix9
Jan 15, 2014, 09:35 AM
this is awesome, I have class today and can actually get my shit done

thanks sega!

Kikikiki
Jan 15, 2014, 09:36 AM
"このたび確認されましたゲームサーバーの重篤な不具合につきまして、調査、対応を引き続き行っておりますが 、解消までにはお時間をいただく見込みとなっており、今晩中での復旧は行えない状況となってお ります。"

No PSO2 for tonight.

Ce'Nedra
Jan 15, 2014, 09:36 AM
I haven't trained any of you to pull a number from the ticket machine yet, so none of you have one yet.

Well get working on it then!

Enforcer MKV
Jan 15, 2014, 09:37 AM
Oh great what Number am I? ;3

I'll bite. 69, Nedra. Your number is 69. xD

TaigaUC
Jan 15, 2014, 09:42 AM
"このたび確認されましたゲームサーバーの重篤な不具合につきまして、調査、対応を引き続き行っておりますが 、解消までにはお時間をいただく見込みとなっており、今晩中での復旧は行えない状況となってお ります。"

No PSO2 for tonight.

Understandable.
Can't expect them to cancel their party plans or anything like that.

Ce'Nedra
Jan 15, 2014, 09:44 AM
I'll bite. 69, Nedra. Your number is 69. xD

I don't take anything else then that for a number >;

supersonix9
Jan 15, 2014, 09:45 AM
can I be 67

WildarmsRE5
Jan 15, 2014, 09:52 AM
can I be 677 "8" 9 ._.

[SPOILER-BOX]made it huge just for you guys. . .
http://cdn.alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/large/happy-i-see-what-you-did-there-l.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

supersonix9
Jan 15, 2014, 10:16 AM
number sequences

Inazuma
Jan 15, 2014, 10:22 AM
Duping is what brought the servers down I do believe, hence the emergency.

Apparently crafting materials were able to be duped upon block change under certain circumstances (I don't know what they are, don't ask me), which is why the server went down so suddenly.

If it was anything else I highly doubt there would've been an emergency (then again they did an emergency once because Naura spawned incorrectly lol).

I wonder if it's similar to the current glitch involving client order items.

I won't go into details but it is possible to turn in client orders that require items (such as Franka's weekly COs), and not actually lose any items. This bug has been in the game for over a year, if you can believe that. It was still there when I turned in my weekly COs just yesterday.

I will mention that the client order item glitch cannot be abused since you can only turn in those COs once a week. Overall not a huge deal. But if the crafting glitch works the same, being able to craft and get your items back would be a bigger deal, since you can craft many times depending on how many crafting slots you have and the cooldowns. Also, crafting materials are much more expensive than weekly CO items.

Zeota
Jan 15, 2014, 10:52 AM
At least they're acting quickly on this, so as not to have an incident similar to FFXI's "salvage bans".

Coatl
Jan 15, 2014, 10:53 AM
Is the bug a new client order from Klotho?:-P

Or because finding rare boss at new EQ is still rare =w=

Btw, why Persona isn't boosted?

You sure he isn't boosted? Maybe his name can show up red but you don't see the big pimple on him, just like Hunar.

The reason for this would be story related I think.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 10:54 AM
Nah, they just didn't pick a place to put the pimple, or they don't want a 2x damage weak point on that enemy.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 11:02 AM
I guess this means I won't be finding out what all the new latents are (which is what I actually really wanted to know).

D-Inferno
Jan 15, 2014, 11:02 AM
Calling it now, x20 Lilipariums.

somd
Jan 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
I guess this means I won't be finding out what all the new latents are (which is what I actually really wanted to know).

none of the 4 11*s i own got new latents. Only other I had a chance to look at was agito got 10% PB something.

Inazuma
Jan 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
I guess this means I won't be finding out what all the new latents are (which is what I actually really wanted to know).

Gren Duel Gaze has a 16% wind technique damage boost latent now. That would make it the best casting weapon in the game, after Elysion.

The price of Gren Duel Gaze went from 200k to 1m in the few hours the game was up (on Ship 2). Considering that most players are unaware of this, I imagine the price will continue to rise in the near future. Many casters don't have Elysion yet.

jooozek
Jan 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
fleetmalinca got 5% against something, i guess it's dragonkin

Ratazana
Jan 15, 2014, 11:20 AM
Good thing extended weapons are not tradable.

Z-0
Jan 15, 2014, 11:23 AM
Gren Duel Gaze has a 16% wind technique damage boost latent now. That would make it the best casting weapon in the game, after Elysion.
If I'm right, Elysion got nerfed to 100% boost, but I never got the chance to check myself.

Inazuma
Jan 15, 2014, 11:24 AM
If I'm right, Elysion got nerfed to 100% boost, but I never got the chance to check myself.

What?! They better not have done that. Where did you hear such a thing?

jooozek
Jan 15, 2014, 11:24 AM
^ lol, glad i didn't bother grinding/unlocking potential/respeccing my techer tree to include s-atk

Tenlade
Jan 15, 2014, 11:26 AM
Good thing extended weapons are not tradable.

if you had duped a weapon that wasn't yet extended, you could keep the dupe and sell back the rare weapon. Everyone would just take turn buying elder pains, making thier own, then selling the original.

Z-0
Jan 15, 2014, 11:34 AM
What?! They better not have done that. Where did you hear such a thing?
I got it from a friend who doesn't bullshit.

I would double check myself but hey, emergency maintenance. . _./ I wouldn't take it as gospel just yet.

Ceresa
Jan 15, 2014, 11:52 AM
I got it from a friend who doesn't bullshit.

I would double check myself but hey, emergency maintenance. . _./ I wouldn't take it as gospel just yet.

Technically Elysion was always +100% damage, they just used that 200% value as double damage (despite the previous form being +18%) because they're retarded, so it's likely they just changed the display to be consistent with every other latent in the game.

http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AA%E3%83%A5%E3%82%B7%E3% 82%AA%E3%83%B3

Wiki page for Elysion today's comments seems to support that actually. Doesn't seem to have anyone posting their damage actually going down, just a kneejerk reaction to value going down and someone correcting him and saying they changed the notation.

landman
Jan 15, 2014, 11:52 AM
Good thing extended weapons are not tradable.

But crafted weapons can be desynthesised... and the materials can be sold.

angrysquid
Jan 15, 2014, 12:02 PM
緊急メンテナンス終了予定時刻 1月16日(木)5:00
Around 3 more hours it seems

Ratazana
Jan 15, 2014, 12:06 PM
Premium Set for premiums, Triboosters +100%, 500 fun and drop boost +250% for everybody.

Railkune
Jan 15, 2014, 12:06 PM
Crap... I got too hype, ready to play. Ah well. As long as the issues are being handled.

Dia79
Jan 15, 2014, 12:12 PM
Premium Set for premiums, Triboosters +100%, 500 fun and drop boost +250% for everybody.

premium set for premiuns ? i dont get whats that

HBK666
Jan 15, 2014, 12:16 PM
Premium Set for premiums, Triboosters +100%, 500 fun and drop boost +250% for everybody.

Dreaming is for everyone....

jiasu73
Jan 15, 2014, 12:17 PM
No rollback

Emp
Jan 15, 2014, 12:18 PM
Premium Set for premiums, Triboosters +100%, 500 fun and drop boost +250% for everybody.

good thing my premium hasnt ran out yet. ^^;

Niagara
Jan 15, 2014, 12:18 PM
It seems there will be no rollback, however the guys that abused some kind of glitch will be banned. :I

[not sure, my japanese is subpar)

Ratazana
Jan 15, 2014, 12:19 PM
プレミアムセット1日

SJRKnowledge96
Jan 15, 2014, 12:19 PM
English hackers with monocles and twirly moustaches.

I need to draw this now.

isCasted
Jan 15, 2014, 12:22 PM
premium set for premiuns ? i dont get whats that

1 day premium ticket.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 12:24 PM
緊急メンテナンス終了予定時刻 1月16日(木)5:00
Around 3 more hours it seems

Wow, I didn't even expect it to come back up today.

Saffran
Jan 15, 2014, 12:30 PM
>緊急メンテナンスの原因と対応について
>
>1月15日(水)アップデートにおいて、特定の条件にて
>所持アイテムが増殖する不具合が発生していることが判明したため、
>緊急メンテナンスを実施させていただきました。

Basically, they did the maintenance because of the dupe exploit.

>本不具合は、特定の条件でのみ発生し、アイテムの増殖量が限られたものであることが判明してい るため、
>プレイデータのロールバック(巻き戻し)は実施いたしません。

It was a serious issue but it was not abused in a massive way, so no need for a rollback.

>また、調査により本不具合を繰り返し悪質な形で利用したアカウントを確認したため、
>アカウント停止措置を行いました。
>今後さらなる詳細な調査を行った上、不具合を悪質に利用したと判断されたアカウントに対しては 、
>不正行為としてしかるべき措置を取らせていただきます。

We did find some accounts who clearly abused it, they were banned. We will look for all users who have abused it and will ban them.

>なお、1月16日(木)に予定しておりました
>「浮遊大陸探索」のレアドロップの倍率が+50%されるブーストイベントにつきましては、
>1月17日(金)23:59まで期間を延長して実施いたします。

The boost that was supposed to take place on jan 16th all day will be extended until end of jan 17th.

>1月15日(水)22:00に予定しておりました緊急クエスト
>「平穏を引き裂く混沌」の予告緊急クエストにつきましては、
>1月19日(日)18:00に日程をあらためて再度実施させていただきます。

The Emergency Quest that was supposed to be at 10PM Wednesday 15th will be held at 6PM Sunday 19th.

isCasted
Jan 15, 2014, 12:44 PM
So, players will be banned again just because programmers messed up...
Really, servers were up for too little of time, they can't blame people for this! It's not like all those people hacked their servers and gave themselves millions of AC. Rollback at this point would be much more logical...

...don't tell me they are stupid enough to not to make backups before maintenace.

The Walrus
Jan 15, 2014, 12:48 PM
It's Sega.

Mysterious-G
Jan 15, 2014, 12:51 PM
Someone scared they might fall under the category that clearly abused it? If not, then you should understand the difference between doing it once, or clearly using said process with the intention to abuse a gap in the system. Punishing the majority for the misdeeds of a few individuals really would be the exact opposite of what I think would be logical.

@Compensation: So glad. I was running out of cubes to convert so badly. Hahaha. Now bring on the TD!

Railkune
Jan 15, 2014, 12:51 PM
Poor souls.

landman
Jan 15, 2014, 12:51 PM
So, players will be banned again just because programmers messed up...
Really, servers were up for too little of time, they can't blame people for this! It's not like all those people hacked their servers and gave themselves millions of AC. Rollback at this point would be much more logical...

...don't tell me they are stupid enough to not to make backups before maintenace.

If you find a glitch and exploit it, then you deserve the ban, first, it is against the terms of service, second, you are cheating and you know it.

Alenoir
Jan 15, 2014, 12:53 PM
So, players will be banned again just because programmers messed up...
Really, servers were up for too little of time, they can't blame people for this! It's not like all those people hacked their servers and gave themselves millions of AC. Rollback at this point would be much more logical...

...don't tell me they are stupid enough to not to make backups before maintenace.

There's a difference between running between your room and the lobby to do Arks Road and accidentally duped a stack of item and deliberately switching blocks to dupe stacks and stacks of items.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 12:54 PM
I am of the opinion, for the most part, that if it's in the game it's within the rules. Unless we're talking deleting characters, stealing items, or hacking psycho wands it's not a big deal.

Duping glitches might suck but if it's not something huge like that they should get a pass. This doesn't seem like a big deal. So some people got free elder pains - I really couldn't be less bothered if I wanted to.

Alenoir
Jan 15, 2014, 12:56 PM
Duping glitches might suck but if it's not something huge like that they should get a pass. This doesn't seem like a big deal. So some people got free elder pains - I really couldn't be less bothered if I wanted to.

The dupe only happens for stuffs that can stack up to 999.

Someone duped EX stone fragments.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 12:58 PM
Yeah that seems significant then.

Ban ahoy.

FacelessRed
Jan 15, 2014, 01:01 PM
I don't understand, but I should be safe if all i did was craft a few things in my room and then fight a friends sword dummy right? lol

Freshellent
Jan 15, 2014, 01:05 PM
I was really looking forward to this along with everyone else. I rushed home for nothing turns out, haha.

Still, I'd rather they do this than let what happened on PSU- and just let it run rampant.

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 01:05 PM
Yes, you should be fine. Unless you jumped through a bunch of hoops and specifically duped a ton of items you should normally only have like 5 of at a time (like XQ stones) then you're probably fine.

CanaanAzure
Jan 15, 2014, 01:06 PM
English hackers with monocles and twirly moustaches.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/856/ftig.jpg
I know what of which you speak.

Squall179
Jan 15, 2014, 01:11 PM
"また、調査により本不具合を繰り返し悪質な形で利用したアカウントを確認したため、アカウント停止措置を行 いました。"

"Also, since it has been confirmed the account that you used in a malicious form repeated failure by this study, we conducted an account ban.
For Accounts determined. Performed on more detailed investigation future, and using maliciously defects, I will take the appropriate measures as fraud."

So apparently something about accounts being used fraudulently? What are the specifics of this I wonder.

Alenoir
Jan 15, 2014, 01:17 PM
Seems like there are several bugs being reported:
- HDD burst?
- Crafted weapons losing their minimum damage range and becoming garbage
- Duping materials, as mentioned above
- Wand Lovers SATK bonus doesn't affect non-wands (probably intentional)
- HDD burst refers to the 9/4/2013 incident. People will forever bring it up whenever any bug happens for PSO2.
- Crafted weapon losing their minimum damage is because anything above 7* sans red weapons have a hidden ability/dex attribute attached to them, based on their rarity. Supposedly by extending your weapon, that hidden ability/dex gets removed all together.



So apparently something about accounts being used fraudulently? What are the specifics of this I wonder.
Some people block changed multiple times on purpose to dupe items.

Squall179
Jan 15, 2014, 01:22 PM
ooooh, so THATS what it was, thanks!

Pleh, figures people would screw around when they find a bug to try to exploit it instead of just reporting it. Pretty common gamer behavior sadly enough.

FacelessRed
Jan 15, 2014, 01:34 PM
Yes, you should be fine. Unless you jumped through a bunch of hoops and specifically duped a ton of items you should normally only have like 5 of at a time (like XQ stones) then you're probably fine.

I didn't even know duping was a thing. And why do people not quote anymore? Are you replying to me? Perhaps someone else asked the same question?

I think i changed blocks and relogged in about 11-15 or so times of the course of an hour and a half, partly due to the fact my large files didn't install correctly and campship would not load causing me to relaunch the game... but I'm 99.9% sure i didn't dupe anything? I think? I can barely understand what the items are let alone dupe them.

Walkure
Jan 15, 2014, 02:13 PM
I didn't even know duping was a thing. And why do people not quote anymore? Are you replying to me? Perhaps someone else asked the same question?

I think i changed blocks and relogged in about 11-15 or so times of the course of an hour and a half, partly due to the fact my large files didn't install correctly and campship would not load causing me to relaunch the game... but I'm 99.9% sure i didn't dupe anything? I think? I can barely understand what the items are let alone dupe them.You're probably fine, don't worry about it.

martinmeegan
Jan 15, 2014, 02:25 PM
Welp, it gives me a chance to update my Nvidia drivers I guess.

Aracnideo
Jan 15, 2014, 02:33 PM
Starts in 30 mins or so ~

Lesse' how them' Japanese handle their emergencies.

ZenN2
Jan 15, 2014, 02:37 PM
This last half hour is going to be unbearable.

Shinamori
Jan 15, 2014, 02:46 PM
Only 15 more mins. :V

gigawuts
Jan 15, 2014, 02:49 PM
servers have been up btw

Iluminaye
Jan 15, 2014, 02:53 PM
For those who want to find things out about PSO2!
http://bumped.org/psublog/category/phantasy-star-online-2/
THERE, site I use and it also explains tons of things!

CanaanAzure
Jan 15, 2014, 02:54 PM
For those who want to find things out about PSO2!
http://bumped.org/psublog/category/phantasy-star-online-2/
THERE, site I use and it also explains tons of things!

Um... I believe you are completely off topic.

Aracnideo
Jan 15, 2014, 02:55 PM
Um... I believe you are completely off topic.

Yeah, but it had a good intention.

Plus it's good for those who clicked last page and wanna' know more 'bout this Maintenance. :D

ScarletV
Jan 15, 2014, 03:00 PM
Yeah, but it had a good intention.

Plus it's good for those who clicked last page and wanna' know more 'bout this Maintenance. :D

This, that link did help me and it gave me an estimate time as to when I should expect the servers to the up, rewards, etc. Better than reading 14 pages of mostly speculation.

nagasee
Jan 15, 2014, 03:27 PM
so... is it back up?

Aracnideo
Jan 15, 2014, 03:47 PM
so... is it back up?

Should be.

Knock yourself out son.