Price of the 11~Star weapon

[Alma]

the 11* weapon trading feature is approaching closely
let's guess what the price of those 11* will be tomorrow :bday:

let me start with these one:

Nasuyoteri: 1050 meseta

cause its the most undesirable 11* people seems to get.
most probably convert it into 11* pass :wacko:

[Dnd]

Falclaw/bow/motav/flame visit 1k

Twin kamui ~500k
Elysion ~1mill
Guld milla ~1.5mill

the TD ones will probably be double for a baseline one, talis/rifle will probably fetch the most because latent w/ weakbullet and a caster weapon that's better then P-wand in damage and 7% less pp reduction

[FacelessRed]

Yeah, on ship 01 sufficiently rare 10*s are minimum of 5m and if its decently slotted 10-30m ... so I'm gonna assume the lowest 11* will at least start at 5m completely unslotted and 30m upwards for decent affixes. and if its fully done up 100m +

[Shinamori]

the 11* weapon trading feature is approaching closely
let's guess what the price of those 11* will be tomorrow :bday:

let me start with these one:

Nasuyoteri: 1050 meseta

cause its the most undesirable 11* people seems to get.
most probably convert it into 11* pass :wacko:

It won't fall that low. Not at first.

[Exiled_Gundam]

I guess Guld Milla price will be similar to Elder Pain

[Sanguine2009]

im gonna guess 10-20m maybe 30m for a decently affixed elysion at the start. maybe 50-70m for guld milla the first week. beyond that i have no idea.
i cant see the other TD/Falz drops being more than 3-10m depending on the weapon.
XQ drops are probably gonna be expensive as hell though

[Bellion]

Elysion 3m
Guld Milla 10m
All other Falz 11* weapons 1m
TD exclusive 11* 5-20m

[Zipzo]

I think you guys may be sorely over guessing on Elysion...certainly the Sazan spam thing is "cool" lately but I don't think it's nearly as massively desirable a play style to the point that it will net Elysion that much worth. I'm thinking it will fall near the wayside around 1 million, which I wouldn't mind at all, despite already having something stronger than it for TE/HU.

[Sanguine2009]

theres no way a fully affixed/ground 11* that is one of the few that are useful and not out classed by a 10* is going for less than 10m, it costs more just to get it to that point

[Zipzo]

theres no way a fully affixed/ground 11* that is one of the few that are useful and not out classed by a 10* is going for less than 10m, it costs more just to get it to that point

Well if you're going to go there, talking fully affixed, grinded and latented then it's anyone's game...there are still 10* weapons in that state that go for upwards of 50-100 million...it completely depends on the affixes and the weapon itself.

I'm going to hazard a guess though that a strong majority of 11* weapons being sold are not going to be utterly decked out, because people who take the time to do that to 11* weapons are probably using them, obviously.

[Digital Pain]

Well if you're going to go there, talking fully affixed, grinded and latented then it's anyone's game...there are still 10* weapons in that state that go for upwards of 50-100 million...it completely depends on the affixes and the weapon itself.

I'm going to hazard a guess though that a strong majority of 11* weapons being sold are not going to be utterly decked out, because people who take the time to do that to 11* weapons are probably using them, obviously.

This! i've got an Elysion that i want to sell but it's only one slot and not grinded at all, i know i should slot it + affix and grind it but, i don't play Fo or Tec and don't really want to spend the meseta.. just want to make a quick sale. I don't want the potential of spending more than its worth.

[Sanguine2009]

fair enough. i assumed we both meant decked out 11*

[btw-Niji]

Falclaw/bow/motav/flame visit 1k

Twin kamui ~500k
Elysion ~1mill
Guld milla ~1.5mill

the TD ones will probably be double for a baseline one, talis/rifle will probably fetch the most because latent w/ weakbullet and a caster weapon that's better then P-wand in damage and 7% less pp reduction

This look about right imo, but Rika's Claw, Nasuyoteri, Prophets of Motav and Flame Visit will be a minimum of 100~200k.

[Zipzo]

This look about right imo, but Rika's Claw, Nasuyoteri, Prophets of Motav and Flame Visit will be a minimum of 100~200k.

I kind of love you for calling it Rika's Claw in a weird, nostalgy, totally over the internet type way.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Is my dream of having guild n mills (in pso2) finally be a reality?
Lol I don't get home until 8pm east so im sure ill see crazy prices for it by then

I dont even care if they not light I just want a pair lol

[Shinamori]

First day sales are gonna be retarded though.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

I figure as much
The only 11* I have is 3 of the bow of which the light one im keeping....doubt they'll go for anything and the TD gunslash

Only 11* i want us g&m but wouldnt mind flame visit as I do occasionally use launcher on my gu

[btw-Niji]

I kind of love you for calling it Rika's Claw in a weird, nostalgy, totally over the internet type way.
It's the official English name.

[Meji]

First day sales are gonna be retarded though.^ Pretty much this.
The first day 10☆ trading hit, prices flew up and down like crazy. Only got stable after about one or two days.

[UnLucky]

This look about right imo, but Rika's Claw, Nasuyoteri, Prophets of Motav and Flame Visit will be a minimum of 100~200k.

Why would they have a minimum? AC items can be recycled and 10*s can be used for Excubes/Spheres, keeping their prices relatively high.

11*s can ... element grind an XQ wep?

[Meji]

Why would they have a minimum? AC items can be recycled and 10*s can be used for Excubes/Spheres.

11*s can ... element grind an XQ wep?Just like with any other rare, if you have one of the same type (sword/rifle/etc) and rarity, you can use that to add 1% of element. This is where the 5% boosters come in handy (or the soulbound 10% ones, if you got those from last years scratch).

[UnLucky]

Yeah, and everyone will want a 50% element XQ wirelance, bow, talis, and launcher.

[btw-Niji]

Why would they have a minimum? AC items can be recycled and 10*s can be used for Excubes/Spheres, keeping their prices relatively high.

11*s can ... element grind an XQ wep?
i'm thinking 11* weps will get that same excube/ps option, but 2 instead? idk. would make no sense at all not to include that... even if it was just 1.

plus, can't you break down 11* weps for a decent worth of materials? not sure on that, i never checked.

[UnLucky]

You can dismantle them for an as of yet unused material, yeah.

[Chdata]

Think of it this way:

11* are the new 10*

[jooozek]

i hope i can make millions on my 50 ice cheripheed

[gigawuts]

i hope i can make millions on my 50 ice cheripheed

You actually probably can...if you change its element.

Please tell me you didn't actually leave it as ice. The whole point of buying an 11* pre-50'd is not having to get another 11*.

[jooozek]

i didn't merge them yet, but both are ice :-?
so i can change the element while merging them?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/a6ZDvis.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[UnLucky]

You can only change the element while merging them

[MetalDude]

You'll get the effective same-element bonus to the end result, but it will be a different element with the proper item.

[jooozek]

but will i get a new element and 50 of that element?
edit: @MetalDude: that's awesome then

[Arksenth]

I'm guessing 50 element items will go for quite the extra premium given how rare 11s passes still are. Wondering how much I can sell a 50 element Twin Kamui for. Should I leave it as Dark for the theme, or change it to light?

[gigawuts]

^ What Unlucky said.

The only time you can change element is when doing element synthesis. The only time you can do element synthesis is when you have another weapon of the same rarity and type (in this case an 11* rifle).

You can change the element no matter what other 11* rifle you use, but it has to be an 11* rifle. It can be the same exact weapon, or a different weapon (so the XQ pyrox weapon is an example). It doesn't matter how large or small the boost to the element is. Getting another 11* is a lot of work, and you're selling all of that work pre-done - hence the higher value. What you should do is change it to 50 light or 50 fire (these are the two biggest picks) and sell it for lodsamone. Maybe even make a thread asking who would pay how much for what element. Auction it or something.

[Exiled_Gundam]

Awww the prices drop rapidly

[MetalDude]

GM is going back up though, it's already at 7m+ again.

I expect the market saturation to decrease as it seems like the drop rates for 11*'s is actually... holy shit, feasible for once.

[Kikikiki]

People have been telling me through Skype that they've been getting 11*'s from SHAQ, so I may expect my shitty luck to actually turn over for once, but hey, who knows.

[HBK666]

Awww the prices drop rapidly



What do you expect to happen on the first day, first week, first month, first time that they are able to be sold on the market?

[Zorafim]

From what I saw, 11*s are pretty cheap now. I guess people are getting rid of things they don't need. I expect demand for them to be pretty high, though.

[kabutozero]

I got 3 11* in one run of forest SH AQ

New 11* katana ,afaik it's the strongest 11* katana in terms of power , only bested by orochi agito. Don't know the latent as no one has unlocked it.

New 11* trin dagger that is going for 500k... but may be the strongest dagger too , I dunno

New 11* WL that is going for 15m right now :DDD , might open a shop and sell it , seems strongest WL too without counting any other new one

I was using a 250 % , still they don't look much more rarer than red weapons lolz

[Kikikiki]

forest SH AQ

Well shit, looks like I'll have to work my way down from E caps (I only have a lot of B caps, not much of the rest)

[kabutozero]

imo they might have red weapons drop rate system and drop everywhere

if you want to be sure tho , I remember clearly the katana being dropped by a garongo

[Alma]

Manage to sold my milla (wind) for 20m at the really first login, when there are only 2milla's for 200mill and 900mill

5 mnt later, the price bombed to 5mill :wacko:

[Chdata]

I saw a zeshrayda katana at 400m-900m and now they're all gone...?

I dpn't think they're listed on the jp wiki yet either.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

I saw a zeshrayda katana at 400m-900m and now they're all gone...?

I dpn't think they're listed on the jp wiki yet either.

Those are mulling around 30-40mil i think on ship 2 right now.

I'm more interested in the katana useable by hunters; エレヌバティン. Apparently drops from transmizer.

Want to know what that potential is.

[pkemr4]

hows the rates? im still patching so i cant check quest drop list

[ChocoboRRR]

Yay SHAQ Rockbear drop a judgment time katana which higher base power over Zesh one.

[pkemr4]

Yay SHAQ Rockbear drop a judgment time katana which higher base power over Zesh one.

ザムラナザン?

[ChocoboRRR]

ザムラナザン?

I am not in mood starting pso2 again, it is that black looking katana.

[milranduil]

Those are mulling around 30-40mil i think on ship 2 right now.

I'm more interested in the katana useable by hunters; エレヌバティン. Apparently drops from transmizer.

Want to know what that potential is.

It's a weak stance latent.

[pkemr4]

It's a weak stance latent.

wwwww useless katana wwwww

[Arksenth]

Who puts a weak stance latent on a katana.

Any news on what the Lamia Wand latent is?

[pkemr4]

Who puts a weak stance latent on a katana.

the same idiots that buy's weapons with shitty latents like this?

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Price check on G&M please
Nothing special just cheapest.
As I know light affinity will probably cost more

[Arksenth]

Seems like Lamia Wand's latent is Splendid Recovery.

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

Saving those 11s passes, I guess.

[gigawuts]

Got my hands on two light Belt Spankers, 50 light power 3/vol soul/lucky rise Belt Spanker is a go.

[Alma]

Price check on G&M please
Nothing special just cheapest.
As I know light affinity will probably cost more

Last time i check, its 5mill for lowest price and 8mil for light element, also 21mill for 50 holy element.

[pkemr4]

lol @6mil for guild milia and theres so many of them as well.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

So zesh and rogbelt's katanas are the only 2 of the 4 new katanas worth considering over susano.

Of course neither of them can be used by hunters.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Hmmm if the pricier lower by the time I get home in 6 hours may can get a light G&M.

Im new to the te/fi world but surprised me how cheap Ely was when I checked before heading to work
was at 2mil on ship 2

[Arksenth]

Elysion might spike a little once people realize how good Ilfoie is uncharged with Elysion.

[Rakurai]

I wonder if I should buy an Elysion while they're sitting at 1.8 million right now...

[HBK666]

Elysion might spike a little once people realize how good Ilfoie is uncharged with Elysion.

:-D:bday::yes:

[btw-Niji]

Elysion might spike a little once people realize how good Ilfoie is uncharged with Elysion.
Time to buy them out...!

Poor people!

[pkemr4]

wonder how much the ZRA TMG's will be after a week.

[kabutozero]

Also that change to weapon grinding is really noticeable , I never grinded an 11* before and I easily got it to +10 with only using 300k meseta ( 16k per grind) , +1 protects starting at +6 and +5% chance starting at +8. Got it to +9 3 times and it stayed there like 5 times failing without going down. Decided to wait anyway for the boost to affix it and grind it back to +10 for the latent

[pkemr4]

10*'s got the 9* grind rates. and so and so with other weps

[jiasu73]

holy shiiiit i come back and find out new 11* rod with fire skill latent and its only 1mil on the first day! zesh katana also only 9mil! its gonna get cheaper too!! AMAZING

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

So I've seen some new 11* rifle from one guy in the lobby and 2 in the shop. Sheathed like a sword, awesome-looking, comes from vardha (one had vardha soul/lucky rise).

Was trying to figure out how when we don't have mines SHAQ yet, then I remembered a desert map can sometimes just be a vardha in the middle of a sea of sand.

I barely care about the latent, I just want that sexy rifle.

[Arksenth]

So I've seen some new 11* rifle from one guy in the lobby and 2 in the shop. Sheathed like a sword, awesome-looking, comes from vardha (one had vardha soul/lucky rise).

Was trying to figure out how when we don't have mines SHAQ yet, then I remembered a desert map can sometimes just be a vardha in the middle of a sea of sand.

That doesn't happen in AQ, though, so I'm confused unless the 60-65 drop tables also have 11*s in them.

It looks like the new 11*s have pretty standard latents, so the Falz and TD 11*s will still outclass them for now with their boosted latents.

[gigawuts]

So I've seen some new 11* rifle from one guy in the lobby and 2 in the shop. Sheathed like a sword, awesome-looking, comes from vardha (one had vardha soul/lucky rise).

Was trying to figure out how when we don't have mines SHAQ yet, then I remembered a desert map can sometimes just be a vardha in the middle of a sea of sand.

That shouldn't be happening in AQs though, that's more likely to be from XQs.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

That shouldn't be happening in AQs though, that's more likely to be from XQs.

Oh. Didn't think about that.

*dons farmer's hat*

[Dark Emerald EXE]

G&M spike up on ship 2?
Or still in the 7m range?

[MetalDude]

6.6 is lowest right now.

[IndigoNovember]

Cheapest is 6.6m at the moment. Cheapest Fire element is 7.8m. Cheapest Light is 8.4m.

[ShinMaruku]

So the 11* trade is premium only?

[The Walrus]

Of course.

[Zorafim]

You can buy a three day premium pass, and trade any 11* you get during that time. From there, just buy any 11*s you want whenever you have the money.
...but you knew that already.

[ShinMaruku]

Well shelving my force yet again :P

Thanks for the answer while I want to play my force no where near the point where I'd pay James Dolan.

[Crystal_Shard]

You can buy a three day premium pass, and trade any 11* you get during that time. From there, just buy any 11*s you want whenever you have the money.
...but you knew that already.

Is Sega is selling 3 day premium passes now?

[Zorafim]

I think you can buy them for meseta? Or they're released as prizes? I don't know. I have a few though. You might too.

[ShinMaruku]

I know I don't. Oh well I guess I will need a lucky drop then.

[Sanguine2009]

i could have swore the 3 day passes were for shops and rooms. i know 1 day prem passes were given out for compensation to a couple times to prem players but i have never heard of 3 day prem passes

[Zorafim]

Ah, yeah. That's what I was talking about. Those aren't tradable?

[ShinMaruku]

I don't think so. Regardless I misunderstood the update. I will keep doing what I was doing maybe my 11* will drop maybe not.

[Macman]

Who puts a weak stance latent on a katana.
The same people who put Brave Stance on a launcher.

[Arksenth]

To be fair, before HU turned until the universal subclass, the latent on Flame Visit was actually really good for RA/FI.

[ShinMaruku]

To be fair, before HU turned until the universal subclass, the latent on Flame Visit was actually really good for RA/FI.

That was probably by accident. The developers of this game have a half complete idea of what the game is and it will take years to fix it. So take what you get.

[Macman]

To be fair, before HU turned until the universal subclass, the latent on Flame Visit was actually really good for RA/FI.
Yeah but Flame Visit's whole gimimick at the time was a launcher that gunner could use. I guess you could go gu/fi and just not use any of the PAs. :wacko:

[Arksenth]

Sigh, is anyone depressed by how common and cheap these 11s are? I was hoping for some elite items I could actually work towards, but right now they're all like... 2m at best.

Meeeeeeh.

Maybe I should go buy some more room items or something.

[strikerhunter]

Be patience ARKs, more 11* come along with 11*s that you will never likely to see because of drops rates.

[MetalDude]

I like that rates are actually reliable in terms of finding moderately okay 11*'s. It's good for players still fresh to the game that need to break out and find good gear.

I do agree that there needs to be a few more ubers to look for, but I'd hardly say current rates for most of the other decent 11*s should go down.

[final_attack]

I just hope it'll be relatively easy to earn *11. Due to irl things I can only play 1 - 2 hours a day (Not everyday playing game too) :wacko:

[pkemr4]

comments on the 11* ZRA TMG from S-wiki
5m to fall Na (commandments - 2014-03-06 (Thu) 17:19:14 New!

Already in are fully three mackerel 5M - 2014-03-06 (Thu) 17:53:11 New!
It will still go down. The boost during the next week to less than 3M likely to fall

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Totally did my math wrong (I totally forgot the extra 28 base s atk from hunter :wacko:). Susano on HU/BR is still stronger (assuming you have at least one point in rare mastery hunter, which you should) than all of the new katanas.

Zesh's katana can be better if you're doing nothing but attacking darkers, and the new multiclass can be better if you're using weak stance and hitting weak points all day :wacko:.

[Kikikiki]

Totally did my math wrong (I totally forgot the extra 28 base s atk from hunter :wacko:). Susano on HU/BR is still stronger (assuming you have at least one point in rare mastery hunter, which you should) than all of the new katanas.

Zesh's katana can be better if you're doing nothing but attacking darkers, and the new multiclass can be better if you're using weak stance and hitting weak points all day :wacko:.

Wasn't there one new 11* Katana with Average Stance?

From swiki (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%B6%E3%83%A0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8A%E3% 82%B6%E3%83%B3)

I just went and take a look, and apparently running HU/BR provides 29 more S-ATK.

Assuming you run pure Katana without putting a lot of points in Rapid Shoot side (albeit Step stuffs on Braver side so you can put one point in Rare Mastery Hunter without losing any of the Fury tree) then it is still only 18 more S-ATK, which is a pretty petty amount and ignorable, unless my meth is wrong. It's not like you're not gonna OHKO anything with 17 less S-ATK, right?

And the market for the 11* Katana is clearly better being only half the price of Susanoguren. Not to mention you can actually farm it yourself without getting disappointed over and over since, well, it surely has a better drop rate than Susanoguren.

Albeit everything takes much less effort and still roughly similar rewards.

It's not bad if you already had it, but it's pointless to aim for it now if you don't have it.

[infiniteeverlasting]

Wasn't there one new 11* Katana with Average Stance?

From swiki (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%B6%E3%83%A0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8A%E3% 82%B6%E3%83%B3)

I just went and take a look, and apparently running HU/BR provides 29 more S-ATK.

Assuming you run pure Katana without putting a lot of points in Rapid Shoot side (albeit Step stuffs on Braver side so you can put one point in Rare Mastery Hunter without losing any of the Fury tree) then it is still only 18 more S-ATK, which is a pretty petty amount and ignorable, unless my meth is wrong. It's not like you're not gonna OHKO anything with 17 less S-ATK, right?

And the market for the 11* Katana is clearly better being only half the price of Susanoguren. Not to mention you can actually farm it yourself without getting disappointed over and over since, well, it surely has a better drop rate than Susanoguren.

Albeit everything takes much less effort and still roughly similar rewards.

It's not bad if you already had it, but it's pointless to aim for it now if you don't have it.

Where does this drop from? The katana with avg stance?

[IndigoNovember]

Rockbear and Rogbelt.

[isCasted]

Rockbear and Rogbelt.

I wonder if that's the reason behind why there are so many Banther spawns in area 3 of Forest SHAQ.

[Kikikiki]

I wonder if that's the reason behind why there are so many Banther spawns in area 3 of Forest SHAQ.

I don't get a lot of Fang spawns actually, I always get Rockbears.

And yet I still don't have the Katana.

Not complaining though.

[Arksenth]

I keep getting Cater spawns, and every time I meet them I get a 11s talis. Too bad they're worthless by now.

[kabutozero]

Ye that's the problem. Susano is still too much expensive .... you're not going to be much behind hu/br with br/hu and an 11*

I got the garongo one which is strongest satk 11* katana right now but has heavens divide , going to use it anyways since it matches my colour scheme , it's funny :P , and also heavens divide got buffed in this patch , 15 % extra damage to JA on KC

[Arksenth]

A few of the latents got buffed - species latents are now 13% rather 10 now, I think?

[MetalDude]

I saw 15% at Lv 3 listed on swiki.

[Z-0]

Yeah, they're 20% at level 3.

[Sandmind]

A few of the latents got buffed - species latents are now 13% rather 10 now, I think?

Lv3 Darker would be 13% according to Swiki, all other mob type latents got buffed to 20% at lv3.

[Arksenth]

That's a pretty major upgrade then, and really makes specialized species weapons worth looking at. Making me think I should ought to get a collection of rainbow wands instead alternating between Elysion and a Charged Tech wand.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Albeit everything takes much less effort and still roughly similar rewards.

It's not bad if you already had it, but it's pointless to aim for it now if you don't have it.

White day.
Coming RDR boost week.
There is the ~50 extra HP from HU.
The ~50 extra S def.
The better choice of HU weapons without needing to extend anything (geki for one, though the new 11* from spardans and signoguns usable by bravers is better for anything else besides assbuster).

[pkemr4]

1.1k エレヌトレーガー has dropped so far.

[Kikikiki]

White day.
Coming RDR boost week.

Stop.

As if Crys spawns so often there.

As if a mere 150% drop boost will do anything to it. We had 600% rare drop boost on IRs and it still didn't do jack shit.

See.

My point still stands correct.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Stop.

As if Crys spawns so often there.


Quartz can drop it too.


As if a mere 150% drop boost will do anything to it. We had 600% rare drop boost on IRs and it still didn't do jack shit.

150% RDR + rare enemy boost (cryss is a little more likely to drop it) for a week will do plenty to saturate the market. Susanos were hitting 31.5 mil before this even started.



See.

My point still stands correct.

Susano is still has a practically a free stamina boost+ ~45 def on it because of the ability to main hunter. It's not pointless to aim for a susano when it's still worth more meseta than any other katana because it's better. Everything about it is better, from its strength to its pricetag (if you want to sell it).

[Kikikiki]

Quartz can drop it too.



150% RDR + rare enemy boost (cryss is a little more likely to drop it) for a week will do plenty to saturate the market. Susanos were hitting 31.5 mil before this even started.



Susano is still has a practically a free stamina boost+ ~45 def on it because of the ability to main hunter. It's not pointless to aim for a susano when it's still worth more meseta than any other katana because it's better. Everything about it is better, from its strength to its pricetag (if you want to sell it).

In WD it's guaranteed Crys. You only said WD.

Yes and 150% RDR will also sarturate 11* market.

Yes but that everything is just a small margin that's completely negligible. You're not gonna survive anything better in SH nor will you kill anything sooner. Unless you're a no-life elitist or you're confident of your luck, aiming for it is pointless.

I already said it: it's not bad if you already had it, but if you don't, stop aiming for it; aim for the 11* instead because it takes much less effort allowing people to have a life and still perform as good as Susanoguren.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

In WD it's guaranteed Crys. You only said WD.

Yes and 150% RDR will also sarturate 11* market.

Yes but that everything is just a small margin that's completely negligible. You're not gonna survive anything better in SH nor will you kill anything sooner. Unless you're a no-life elitist or you're confident of your luck, aiming for it is pointless.

I already said it: it's not bad if you already had it, but if you don't, stop aiming for it; aim for the 11* instead because it takes much less effort allowing people to have a life and still perform as good as Susanoguren.

People don't need to not have a life to get a susano:-?

[Shinamori]

In WD it's guaranteed Crys. You only said WD.

Yes and 150% RDR will also sarturate 11* market.

Yes but that everything is just a small margin that's completely negligible. You're not gonna survive anything better in SH nor will you kill anything sooner. Unless you're a no-life elitist or you're confident of your luck, aiming for it is pointless.

I already said it: it's not bad if you already had it, but if you don't, stop aiming for it; aim for the 11* instead because it takes much less effort allowing people to have a life and still perform as good as Susanoguren.

Crys and Quartzs drops it. On top of Rare enemies and boost enemies have a higher drop rate. Yeah...

[Atmius]

In WD it's guaranteed Crys. You only said WD.
Incorrect. I've seen a number of regular quartz in the white day EQ thus far. I'm honestly not even going to bother with the EQ unless they give it the same treatment as choco got (100rdr/100exp) because the rares are better in shaq, the experience is marginally better, and the fact that half the codes are darker related/dragon ex or aircraft defense is a pain in the ass.

[gigawuts]

People.

Please stop saying quartz dragons do not spawn in white day.

They do.

Kthx.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

People.

Please stop saying quartz dragons do not spawn in white day.

They do.

Kthx.

I wasn't even aware this misinformation became a commonly accepted rumor.

On that note, I wonder how many people that think cryss can't drop susano are lurking in this thread...?

[infiniteeverlasting]

has anyone been like me and got no 11 stars even after 5 runs of SHAQ's. Especially with one run that dropped nothing, when i say nothing, i mean like no 7 stars even, not even 10 capsules, even while i was using 100% rdr, even while the other party mates were stacking up 5 11's at a time.... what is rgn... :'( im on the verge of giving up... i feel like the more runs i go on the higher the chance that i wont get anything. I think sega makes a system where the drops are nerfed each time you go without rest because on the first run i at least got a lot of 10 stars, but not anymore no matter how i try...

[gigawuts]

has anyone been like me and got no 11 stars even after 5 runs of SHAQ's. Especially with one run that dropped nothing, when i say nothing, i mean like no 7 stars even, not even 10 capsules, even while i was using 100% rdr, even while the other party mates were stacking up 5 11's at a time.... what is rgn... :'( im on the verge of giving up... i feel like the more runs i go on the higher the chance that i wont get anything. I think sega makes a system where the drops are nerfed each time you go without rest because on the first run i at least got a lot of 10 stars, but not anymore no matter how i try...

No 11*s after only 5 runs? Yes, almost everyone is like you.

Run another 20, then ask.

[TehblackUchiha]

rng = random number generator

basically everything is random. I average about at least 1 11* a day but i use 250% - 350% rdb. I get a lot of rares using at least a 250 but sometimes i also get nothing but junk. If you are getting plenty of 10*'s use recycle those into excubes and get 250% rdb tickets. You can also wait until the 150% boost comes on next week as well and use rdb on that week.

[infiniteeverlasting]

rng = random number generator

basically everything is random. I average about at least 1 11* a day but i use 250% - 350% rdb. I get a lot of rares using at least a 250 but sometimes i also get nothing but junk. If you are getting plenty of 10*'s use recycle those into excubes and get 250% rdb tickets. You can also wait until the 150% boost comes on next week as well and use rdb on that week.

thanks for the advice, and sadly i don't have premium so i can't get the 250%'s using ten star weapons. I'm raging quite hard because i've yet to obtain my first 10 star katana =.=

[gigawuts]

thanks for the advice, and sadly i don't have premium so i can't get the 250%'s using ten star weapons. I'm raging quite hard because i've yet to obtain my first 10 star katana =.=

Yes, you can get excubes from 10* weapons without premium.

[infiniteeverlasting]

Yes, you can get excubes from 10* weapons without premium.

wait from where? recycle shop?

[gigawuts]

Yes.

5 yes.

[Kikikiki]

People don't need to not have a life to get a susano:-?


or you're confident of your luck

I've said this a bazillion times already, but I'll say it again:

What I want to say is that, if it takes less effort and you can still achieve approximately similar result, then it's definitely the way to go. I'm unnecessarily much worse than you. It's actually negligible and in the end we're all just Bravers Shunka-ing/Hatou-ing everything.


People.

Please stop saying quartz dragons do not spawn in white day.

They do.

Kthx.

Sorry that I got it wrong in this case. I don't even play the game that often anymore to notice this, so, yeah.

[Zorafim]

It's actually negligible and in the end we're all just Bravers Shunka-ing/Hatou-ing everything.

I wish more people had this mindset. People get so strung up on being the best, they don't realize how trivial their performance boosts are. And in the end, what did you really achieve doing that? You subjected yourself to pain, just so that trivial content becomes even less fun to play? Where's the fun in that? And in a short amount of time, that work will be negated anyway.

[Macman]

People.

Please stop saying quartz dragons do not spawn in white day.

They do.

Kthx.
Not that I can tell. All the White Days I've played and I've only seen one Quartz/Crys. It's just been an Agrani/Ex-fest for me, lol.

[gaijin_punch]

I ran one AQ today, and mainly popped in out of curiosity. I paid the 700,000 meseta since I didn't want to look like a tool. I got an 11-star katana. Weird name... It's one that hunter can equip though. No braver subclass so need to decide if I'm going to sell it or not.

What's the consensus of the prices in My Shop? The cheapest one was 2.9 mil. I was looking forward to playing Fi/Hu once I hit 65 which should be soon. All the damage Braver does w/ katana makes me tempted to subclass him and try. I've only seen one hunter use a katana though so I'm assuming braver isn't the most popular subclass.

[milranduil]

I wish more people had this mindset. People get so strung up on being the best, they don't realize how trivial their performance boosts are. And in the end, what did you really achieve doing that? You subjected yourself to pain, just so that trivial content becomes even less fun to play? Where's the fun in that? And in a short amount of time, that work will be negated anyway.

And you are trivializing the enjoyment/satisfaction people get when they achieve the result they want which can only be achieved with the best of the best gear with the best of the best affixes. Like time attackers for example. Do you think they're going to settle with a Dio Sigalga for TAing? Of course not! They are obviously going to shoot for the best gear. Yeah, drop rates suck, but meseta gets you around that hurdle (and now SH AQs too). That's what multiple TACO chars and patience are for. Just because you think an extra 30-50% damage is trivial doesn't mean everyone else does too...

Not that I can tell.


I've seen Quartz

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[TaigaUC]

Getting the best gear is trivial depending on how often the person plays.
There's no point in a casual player getting the best items, because they won't get much out of them before they become obsolete.

Anyway, I can't be bothered doing stupid White Day. Chance of Susano Guren is low as hell (I want it for looks+efficiency, not to be the best).
I only did it a few times to try and get Na Grants 16. Got it on one account immediately.
The other account killed at least ten Noir Dralls and keeps getting ranks 8, 9, 12 and crap like that.
Constantly got Ra Grants 16 multiple times on both accounts.

I've seen loads of both Crys Drall and Quartz Dragons.
Haven't seen a single Zoran Gorall, as expected.
I knew that was going to be the case when I saw him in the preview video.

[milranduil]

Getting the best gear is trivial depending on how often the person plays.

I don't think you understand the word trivial unless you do actually think getting 5s/6s gear is stupidly easy in which case I've clearly been playing this game wrong all along.


There's no point in a casual player getting the best items, because they won't get much out of them before they become obsolete.

Where did I say casuals should be striving to be the best? I'm simply stating that not everyone is casual and gets enjoyment out of, oh I don't know, trying to get the best gear.

[Mysterious-G]

WD2 seems absolutely fine to me in regards to boss spawns. The only thing I do miss from last year's iteration is the crystal protects, which slightly saddens me as I had hoped to level as much doing this EQ as I did last year (t'was crazy).
As for Susanoo Guren? What's the big deal guys? Just wait for the FC AQ for 2 more weeks and go fetch one for 1M Meseta. Probably less. Of course by then we will have better katanas available, and dropping so often even a Susanoo Guren will be called useless trash. That's how it goes in this game after all.