New Katana PA? Glitch? hack?

[Shinamori]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkKIjQsZsI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkKIjQsZsI

Someone show this video to me.

[Kondibon]

Oh my God. It IS katana overend. :I

[infiniteeverlasting]

LOL THAT MUST BE THE NEW PA COMING OUT! how the hell did he get that >:D, that looks nice... i hope it hits double teh amount over-end does, totally destroying the purpose of playing any other class in this game >:DDD MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Kondibon]

LOL THAT MUST BE THE NEW PA COMING OUT! how the hell did he get that >:D, that looks nice... i hope it hits double teh amount over-end does, totally destroying the purpose of playing any other class in this game >:DDD MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAIt looks slow as crap. It's probably gonna be like final nemesis and be uncancelable as well. I doubt it's gonna be the best PA ever for everything.

[Zenobia]

Oh my lord Braver why just why Katana+Overendou? Hunter and Braver are having some strong ass babies right now.

[gigawuts]

Meanwhile, fighter's ground mobbers still have worse AOE than their aerial precision boss killers.

?????????

[~Aya~]

You mean Braver is about to become the "worst" class because braindead OP easymode class. Hahahaha.... People who have played and stuck with Braver since day one as I did. REJOICE.

[Kondibon]

I can't imagine this being anything inbetween stupid OP or stupid UP... There's not really any room for middle ground.


You mean Braver is about to become the "worst" class because braindead OP easymode class. Hahahaha.... People who have played and stuck with Braver since day one as I did. REJOICE.
?????

[~Aya~]

I can't imagine this being anything inbetween stupid OP or stupid UP... There's not really any room for middle ground.


?????

Started off weak and now we're here.

[Sizustar]

It's a glitch that occur only if you do a certain weapon combo with..wire lance), and only other people can see it.

[Akakomuma]

Wow. That's awesome.

Just got finished reading Rurouni Kenshin so I'm looking forward to that.

[Z-0]

I know the inputs for this PA, since I found the original video for it, but neither my friends nor I can see this PA happening.

Is there anything other than just spamming a certain PA during Shunka?

[gigawuts]

Started off weak and now we're here.

And this is unique to Braver?

Sega's balancing decisions are basically 6 months delayed. If it was bad 6 months ago it will continue to receive upgrades and buffs. If it is bad now it will take 6 months for a buff to be put in.

edit: Okay more like a year

[Sizustar]

I know the inputs for this PA, since I found the original video for it, but neither my friends nor I can see this PA happening.

Is there anything other than just spamming a certain PA during Shunka?

Cast only, and the person doing it must be lagging(Which is why we do it in desert with sand storm, he also has other program running)

[~Aya~]

And this is unique to Braver?

Of course it is. It is the only class that I play.

Refer to my page 1 post for reason behind my saying so as well. Hehe.. and now i'm sad.... goddammit Sizu... ; ;

[Z-0]

I actually just managed it with a friend, turns out you need to switch back to Katana after you perform the Wired Lance PA.

Also, I was in mines without lagging.

[Shinamori]

Ah. Well, it's the katana pA (probably around May?), then it looks more like Squall's Blasting Zone.

[Kondibon]

And this is unique to Braver?

Sega's balancing decisions are basically 6 months delayed. If it was bad 6 months ago it will continue to receive upgrades and buffs.
In Aya's defense Braver and Gunner are probably the only classes that went from being medecore to the strongest classes in the game. For the other classes the buffs are inconciquntial when compared to the rest of the meta (Wand Lovers for instance), or didn't actually help the problems the class has (Everything about the hunter tree). That's not counting the buffs that did nothing at all (photon flare).

[Chdata]

Can you see yourself do it? He mentioned only others can on the first page.

[ChocoboRRR]

There is also a heaven wrath attack just press lp lp forward lk hp. Bestowing only for the best TA players. ^_^

[Z-0]

Ranger went from rather mediocre to the best thing ever as well, when Hunter was buffed back in April.

Super Hard went against it though.

edit: no you cannot see yourself do it

[Sizustar]

Ranger went from rather mediocre to the best thing ever as well, when Hunter was buffed back in April.

Super Hard went against it though.

And now FO is useful again in SHAQ with Il Foi too.

[Z-0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El9JphTFP50

[otaku998]

I am not sure why Sega do dis. I was wishing Sword OverEnd reducing to single hit, and now dis, oh man

I am not complaining about Br getting more cool shit but still, sword ;;

[Sizustar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El9JphTFP50


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El9JphTFP50"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El9JphTFP50

Made it viewable in PSO-World for you~

[Z-0]

how2embed ;_;
I thought I knew how to but I failed.

[Shinamori]

Is it a specific WL pA?

[gigawuts]

Ranger went from rather mediocre to the best thing ever as well, when Hunter was buffed back in April.

Super Hard went against it though.

edit: no you cannot see yourself do it

This isn't even something limited to PSO2 either, PSU is said by literally everyone to have been the exact same thing from the get.


how2embed ;_;
I thought I knew how to but I failed.

You got it right, you just needed to take the s out of the https

[Sizustar]

how2embed ;_;
I thought I knew how to but I failed.

remove the s in https

[Gen2000]

That PA reminds me of the katana hidden special move from Bayonetta.

[NoiseHERO]

*looks around*

Aya, if you're in here get off PSOW!

Also PA looks stupid please release something cooler looking.

#Big Fuckin' Riggs

[ChocoboRRR]

^The killing moon is for spoiler brats.

[~Aya~]

*looks around*

Aya, if you're in here get off PSOW!

Also PA looks stupid please release something cooler looking.

#Big Fuckin' Riggs

Fine, fine.... smhsmh

#Goes faster in reverse

[Chdata]

How do you know if you're doing it when you can't see yourself do it o.o

[Shinamori]

Can someone do a video on actually doing it? I'm trying it I can't seem to do it.

[Sizustar]

How do you know if you're doing it when you can't see yourself do it o.o

Teamate can tell you, whether you're doing it or not.


Can someone do a video on actually doing it? I'm trying it I can't seem to do it.

Shunka, and then Wild Rounds

[Chdata]

Shunka (maybe it has to be in midair?)

As soon as you begin shunka, switch to WL and spam Wild Round

Wild Round should activate as you land on the ground after finishing shunka. You will see yourself do Wild Round.

As soon as Wild Round begins, switch back to katana and peepls be like WTF??

Edit: You can do the same thing starting with Hatou. It also worked for some others..=

Edit: You don't need to do a katana PA before you do this.

Just WR and switch to katana. All classes can do it (I do it as a human).

[Friyn]

Edit: Nvm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Aine]

[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/7eyefdJ.jpg[/spoiler-box]

So... about three times the range of Overend?

[RadiantLegend]

Overend needs to be this!!!!!!

[gigawuts]

Braver was bad last year, let's keep giving it everything other weapons on other classes should have instead.

[SakoHaruo]

That PA reminds me of the katana hidden special move from Bayonetta.

Obvious they stole it from Bayo. I'm still waiting on the Bayo costumes, too. probably get it around release.



[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/7eyefdJ.jpg[/spoiler-box]

So... about three times the range of Overend?

Abandon all hope

[infiniteeverlasting]

Abandon all hope

LOL, i just find it amusing every time sega squashes you in disappointment with their lovely buffs on braver <3. its ok just let it happen, don't even resist.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Obvious they stole it from Bayo. I'm still waiting on the Bayo costumes, too. probably get it around release.

That would be fantastic, though I wonder if platinum may be a little miffed with $ega.


Abandon all hope

Gave that up the moment i saw sacrifice bite and shift period. Make gunners even stronger, and give swords another fucking grab PA (I thought they were done with that shit!).

At least blizzard had an idea to balancing a stupid ass arms race evenly; in WotLK, everyone had an arena match-ending nuke!

[Chdata]

I love that it's a clock spin, but hate that it's only a giant slash...

[Xaeris]

It doesn't get the sweeping swings from side to side like Over End does, though. And who's to say what the actual hit box on the attack is. It could be something stupidly narrow like Nazan. It may be OP, but I'm not willing to make that determination based on the animation alone.

[Chdata]

Since it's one giant swing I can assume it'll do like backhandsmash++ damage.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Since it's one giant swing I can assume it'll do like backhandsmash++ damage.

Well the one thing we can guarantee is that the damage will be retarded.

Seriously though, when the fuck will they give us content where the kind of damage bravers, gunners, and WB enables is actually necessary?! (well I guess TD is the only place, but it's more like an evil we exploit to get as many runs as possible)

[Sizustar]

Maidoll's(Doujin artist) reaction at my video www
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http://i.imgur.com/6q4W3X4.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=42415491

[Dnd]

Seriously though, when the fuck will they give us content where the kind of damage bravers, gunners, and WB enables is actually necessary?! (well I guess TD is the only place, but it's more like an evil we exploit to get as many runs as possible)

They won't, on the grounds that the other classes will suffer even more

Edit: That picture above made me laugh so hard

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Maidoll's(Doujin artist) reaction at my video www
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://i.imgur.com/6q4W3X4.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=42415491

Thanks. I was looking for this guy's works again for a few days after the hunter subclass comic. :D

[infiniteeverlasting]

looks so hentai^ the lips man....

[RadiantLegend]

If this thing only cost 30pp and not like 50-100 pp. I don't even....

[isCasted]

This just confirms that designers ran out of ideas.

[Arialle]

im trying to figure how to do this....

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

looks so hentai^ the lips man....

I was looking at the inner thighs, but hey, doujinshi artist.

[infiniteeverlasting]

did this artist ever do Highschool of teh dead doujin? it really looks familiar....

[EvilMag]

Thanks to a friend for taking these pictures of me doing this. :D
http://imgur.com/ccIbQAA,bJtDo2K,RXCYVTe,lI9ujwv,mYZ0Zlm,Sj7Ck76,wN xIG4n,XlTvLYo,V8VjebW,IH3f7mH,b29P2fj,WnCI97h,ZSmb ANZ,AcKnC6y,6xIUNqw,XQ5CuPZ,U7puzok,sWq1t42,OBfZit x,aab0cKs,sYns67x,acvCbms#14

[Arialle]

1) i cant figure out how to do it

2) is it something that only ur party members can see u doing while ur doing the normal moves

[IndigoNovember]

did this artist ever do Highschool of teh dead doujin? it really looks familiar....

Yeah it's the same person.

Maidoll, you gotta do what Hellabuna did and stop playing this game. Though I'm happy we get more PSO2 4komas.

[Manta Oyamada]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjWX733CUAEVWwW.jpg

[HBK666]

Looks stupid regardless.

[IndigoNovember]

Any chance we could do something similar to see the other unreleased PA/Techniques?

[Zenobia]

PA looks fucking awesome. Wonder if they will patch it cause it feels like Sega's little easter egg lol.

http://imgur.com/0isGU7N,de66FAL,1aGDsxr,eL8IzbG#0

[Digital Pain]

Man that PA looks sweet, gotta give it a try! i wonder if this will lead to discovering other un-released PA's?

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Man that PA looks sweet, gotta give it a try! i wonder if this will lead to discovering other un-released PA's?

Hope someone finds out how to do the partisan PA already so we can figure out if we should bury hunter now, or later.

[Natsu Nem]

Sorry guys, I played a little bit on my BR yesterday.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Sorry guys, I played a little bit on my BR yesterday.

At least 75% of the playerbase has been doing it since the great shunka incident.

[Kilich]

Eh, I'm sure that Sega will eventually cycle back to Hu. But I wonder if we'll have a new race\class for EP3, maybe that PA is not even Braver PA and katana is a placeholder for it.

[Zenobia]

At least 75% of the playerbase has been doing it since the great shunka incident.

Go back a bit more they were doing it since Combat Escape hit.

[Kikikiki]

That giant spear of shit growing out of nowhere is fucking retarded. Over End and this shit should've switched places.

Not like I have a hard-on for hunter anything but this is just full of bullshit. Or they could've done some wave splash-esque thing instead. Maybe a bigger Hat- okay no, that'd actually sound more BS in terms of damage.

Then again, at the end of the day, let's just say...

#photons


http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=42415491

I feel so bad for the HU in this picture. Goddamn.

[Misaki Ki]

Maidoll's(Doujin artist) reaction at my video www
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http://i.imgur.com/6q4W3X4.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=42415491

Maidoll! <3

[Kamekur]

Suv Ares Espada comeback?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es5U9BHJiq8

[pkemr4]

this was the first thing to come to mind when i saw the first part of the attack:

http://youtu.be/gKTDie8Y7U8?t=39s

[SakoHaruo]

LOL, i just find it amusing every time sega squashes you in disappointment with their lovely buffs on braver <3. its ok just let it happen, don't even resist.

It's not the class buffs. It's the fact that Sega doesn't give me a reason to be overpowered. Superman, Asura, Goku, etc. all of them have justifiable reasons for becoming stronger. But, Arks... nah. we're just bullies in outer space. We kill defenseless area 3 warriors.

[Digital Pain]

this was the first thing to come to mind when i saw the first part of the attack:

http://youtu.be/gKTDie8Y7U8?t=39s

Omg thats it, was thinking it reminds me of something and couldn't quite put my finger on it. Not seen Bleach in a long time!

[Daiyousei]

You mean Braver is about to become the "worst" class because braindead OP easymode class. Hahahaha.... People who have played and stuck with Braver since day one as I did. REJOICE.

I can already cringe at the number of moon atomizers I have to use to revive those idiots who don't know the right time to use these PAs. and I'm a day one braver, though I've moved on to Fi for a while as I maxed br and hu.

[The_Brimada]

I want to be a bow braver, but it's so hard with these katana PAs appealing more to me lol

[Triple_S]

I want to be a bow braver, but it's so hard with these katana PAs appealing more to me lol

I was a pure Bow BR/RA until I had to use Katana for some COs.

It's so ridiculous just how much better Katana is at mob-clearing, even with Weak Stance active and no katana-related class skills. Bow can kill bosses safely and quickly, especially with Weak Stance -> Weak Bulleted Weak Point -> Banishing Arrow (x2 maybe) -> Final Nemesis being hilarious. But Katana can pretty much nuke bosses as well (and with invincibility, too) and also kicks far more ass at mobbing. Why?!

[gigawuts]

Why do people call it Final Nemesis? I see tons of people do this. The katakana is ラストネメシス, lit. rasutonemeshisu i.e. Last Nemesis.

God that makes my nipples burn.

[Chdata]

Sorry, it's actually End Enemy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9DUqClN8A

it ends ur enemy

[Triple_S]

Why do people call it Final Nemesis? I see tons of people do this. The katakana is ラストネメシス, lit. rasutonemeshisu i.e. Last Nemesis.

God that makes my nipples burn.

It's funny because I actively looked up to make sure if it was Last or Final Nemesis, saw it was "Last Nemesis," then decided "Final Nemesis" sounded better and put that.


And I knew someone would remark about it. <w<

[Kamekur]

Close up to Shunkaendo...I mean, Kazan-Nadeshiko.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIZV0kArPrI


Name comes from here: http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame3/1395491729/485

[Shinamori]

Sorry, it's actually End Enemy

PSO2 lol Br/Ra - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9DUqClN8A)

it ends ur enemy

O_o; Is there like a gap in the hit box in that attack (Blu's twin tornado thing)?

[Bellion]

According to my friend, the English patch users see it as Final Nemesis.
The katakana is clearly Last Nemesis.
Change Kamikaze Arrow to Yolo Arrow and I'm sold.

If you're close enough and in the center, you won't get hit by the tornados because there's a point where they don't cross completely.

[Shinamori]

Honestly, if in the next life PSo2 comes to the west, it's probably gonna be Final Nemesis. Sor of like how in Tales games you have skill name changes despite the katakana saying something different.

Final Embrace (NA Translation)
インブレイスエンド (JP original)
Embrace End (Literal translation)

[Gardios]

Because Tales is full of Engrish and using some of the names as they are is just stupid for people who understand English. Brave Feed? Religious? Hurtless Circle? Come on.

[gigawuts]

I'm fine with thing changing officially, even unofficially, I just had no idea why. It's not even like it's broken engrish or completely ambiguous like Stun Concido/Con Side/etc. It's a perfectly ordinary name. "Last Nemesis" makes perfect sense, so there had to be a reason everyone was calling it something wrong.

[Daiyousei]

O_o; Is there like a gap in the hit box in that attack (Blu's twin tornado thing)?

there is indeed a narrow window where the tornadoes don't reach in between, I first found it out when I was standing there and my JG didn't trigger.

[Squall179]

Ah. Well, it's the katana pA (probably around May?), then it looks more like Squall's Blasting Zone.

If you mean Squall Leonhart then yes. If you mean me? MY Blasting ZOne happens after too many burritos and does a good five thousand times as much damage.

THat said, this is.....exotic, this PA thing.

[Chdata]

lol spamming this during falz arms.

[Aeris]

Kinna got surprised when i first saw this glitch being used, i find it funny its about over 3 times the size of OE, also that rappy person using it made my day.

[stroodle]

I just did this and depending on what PA you use with the WL before switching to the katana, the other person sees something different.
For instance, doing Cerberus dance makes the character look like they are in the dash motion of shunka... forever, until they attack again that is.
Right now I'm testing the others and might put a video up soon.

[deahamlet]

Does this actually do any damage?

[milranduil]

The person doing the animation does damage until they press the weapon switch, just like normal.

[stroodle]

This is what I have right now...

bind through -> Tsukimi-sazanka
grapple charge -> nothing really, it just looks like I walk forward a bit then walk back slightly... (I think it should be gekka-zakuro though)
heavenly fall -> kanran-kikyou
other cyclone -> nothing, just step forward a little (should be sakura-endo i think)
other spin -> hien-tsubaki
holding current -> asagiri-rendan
air pocket swing -> hatou-rindou
cerberus dance -> shunka-shunran (except floating in dash motion until attack is made)
wild round -> new over end

Which looks to make logical sense up until wild round.
Here we see the first WL PA match up with the first katana PA and the 3rd WL PA with the 3rd katana and so on, except the ones where I see nothing (could just be me sucking :p)
Anyways, if we were to continue this trend for wild round, one would suspect fudou-kuchinashi, but instead we see this new PA...

So yeah... thoughts

(also video in progress)

[SociableTyrannosaur]

And this is unique to Braver?

Sega's balancing decisions are basically 6 months delayed. If it was bad 6 months ago it will continue to receive upgrades and buffs. If it is bad now it will take 6 months for a buff to be put in.

edit: Okay more like a year

Force getting buffed soon?

[gigawuts]

Look at the techs force is getting. Force is getting buffed now, all we need is one or two more dumb skills for certain classes. Maybe we'll get Brave Stance Up 2 and then PP Slayer to be 20-30% to all damage (like it should have been).

[SociableTyrannosaur]

I dunno, ilfoie is hardly a game changer and ilzonde's more for movement than damage.

ilbarta last I looked required more forces to stack the damage with and the jury is still out on the other 3.

[Arksenth]

Apparently Ilgrants is ridiculous - seems to do 10 hits of 7k each witg just demo gear? inb4 light is the new it element

[Kilich]

Force will peak somewhere before Ep3 and then it'll be other classes time to shine, probably. I'd say either a new class, or Hu and Fi. I'm ready for Fury Stance Up Ex and Fury 'Get a free hit % of time'.

And 5 PP less for blocking, for 10 points.

[Zyrusticae]

Maidoll's(Doujin artist) reaction at my video www
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http://i.imgur.com/6q4W3X4.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=42415491
Haha, love the comments on that.

"テクニックを…忘れないであげてください" ("Techniques... please don't forget about them")
"もう笑うしかない..." ("I can do nothing but laugh...")
"ブレイバースターオンライン2" ("Braver Star Online 2")
"涙が……" ("Tears...")

[milranduil]

I dunno, ilfoie is hardly a game changer and ilzonde's more for movement than damage.

ilbarta last I looked required more forces to stack the damage with and the jury is still out on the other 3.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23139817

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Force will peak somewhere before Ep3 and then it'll be other classes time to shine, probably. I'd say either a new class, or Hu and Fi. I'm ready for Fury Stance Up Ex and Fury 'Get a free hit % of time'.

And 5 PP less for blocking, for 10 points.

just guarding is free.

[Arksenth]

Don't be a Inazuma, adios!

[SociableTyrannosaur]

Great, lets all build into lightning so we can OHK the lowest HP enemies we can find.

[gigawuts]

I'm actually expecting fighter to get some oomph now, and later on hunter.

[Gardios]

Either Hunter gets more crap no one wants on the right side of the tree or more Fury multipliers. I'm not sure if I want either of those...

[otaku998]

Watch Partizan PA be the most broken one.

[gigawuts]

Watch the new Hunter buffs be like, Slide Shaker having Assault Buster damage for every swing.

[TaigaUC]

I just read the first page so this is probably very late:
Weapon PAs probably send a specific packet for others to see it, and the client interprets what sequence to play based on the locally visible equipped weapon of that person.
You could theoretically trigger hidden stuff by messing with the lag and executing a PA before the weapon switch is updated. Which is what I'm assuming happened in the OP video.

On a sort of related note, I sometimes get a visual bug where I do other weapons' PAs with my previous weapon equipped. Everyone has probably seen that though.

[Rakurai]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23139817

I'm curious as to just how much T-ATK is needed to reach those levels of damage, considering that I'm only doing around 9.5K damage with 2K T-ATK.

But in any case, the new techs make FO feel passable as a damage dealer. I least have the satisfaction of frequently able to kill things before the gunners and bravers can mow them down, though against bosses, they're still a joke, and I doubt any of the new techs will change that.

Il Barta does nice damage and all, but Na Megid seems like it'll still be better in most cases, since it just takes too long to reach the high damage hits if you don't have other FO/TE players around.

[Bellion]

At least 2.6k+ T-atk with the Biblas Wired Lance and using random drink for the side effect.

[Chdata]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23139817

Man, Sazan was able to hit that far? lol.

[Rakurai]

At least 2.6k+ T-atk with the Biblas Wired Lance and using random drink for the side effect.

Is the random drink side effect that's being used the weakness damage bonus?

[Chdata]

Lol, what's the bare minimum to hit stuff in SH lilipa like that.



Lately I feel like the only way to do passable damage as Fo (without elysion) is if you have all that 110 T-atk unit set and weapon crap, plus team boost, plus photon drink, plus cake, etc etc...

[Macman]

First Sacred Skewer for fists.
Now Over End for katanas.

It's happening. Hunter soon to be outright removed from game. Fury Stance moved to Braver's tree.

[Para]

Hmm going back to the original video: Not sure if anyone suggested it but it looks like a hidden PA that SEGA has not released and yet found. I would not be surprised if there were a lot of different PAs that were in development but never released live.

[infiniteeverlasting]

Hmm going back to the original video: Not sure if anyone suggested it but it looks like a hidden PA that SEGA has not released and yet found. I would not be surprised if there were a lot of different PAs that were in development but never released live.

Lol... Sorta behind man... Everyone already knows that it's a unreleased pa.

[holmwood]

Boop. Looking everywhere for this.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22782321

Bow PA?

[Triple_S]

Boop. Looking everywhere for this.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22782321

Bow PA?

Holy crap, that's pretty awesome.

[Zenobia]

I can see it now you thought Bravers were yoloing Falz Core now? Wait till this shits comes out.

[Triple_S]

I can see it now you thought Bravers were yoloing Falz Core now? Wait till this shits comes out.

I'm just wondering if that bow PA has piercing. If so, well... Really I'm kind of torn. It still doesn't change the fact that Bow has really shitty AoE compared to Katana and really doesn't get much in return... but it's pretty cool and probably will tear apart enemies in a line even better than Penetrating Shot.

[Rien]

Here's my take on all this:

Katana: "Anything you can do I can do better"
"I can do anything better than you"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/P3oKonl.png No you can't"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/CbW0XQ6.png Yes I can"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/bTW8epH.png No you can't"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/phQZs3x.png Yes I can"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/PUFpAFo.png No you can't"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/w8eSSCJ.png Yes I can"
"http://i.imgur.com/6UXgfNR.png Yes I can!"
__________________________________________________ ______
Sword: "Anything you can reach I can reach further"
"I can reach anything further than you"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/PfOMo96.png No you can't"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/MVESugC.png Yes I can"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/wudJ5Do.png No you can't"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/izdbhrH.png Yes I can"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/vBlckiJ.png No you can't"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/ffSrhO0.png Yes I can"
"http://i.imgur.com/ffSrhO0.png Yes I can!"
__________________________________________________ ______
Katana: "Anything you can hit I can hit harder"
"I can hit anything harder than you"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/ffSrhO0.png No you can't"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/HMEzF1S.png Yes I can"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/izdbhrH.png No you can't"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/6UXgfNR.png Yes I can"
Sword: "http://i.imgur.com/MrXu93p.png No you can't"
Katana: "http://i.imgur.com/qCOmYSw.png Yes I can"
"https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjWX733CUAEVWwW.jpg Yes I can!"

[UnLucky]

"http://i.imgur.com/ffSrhO0.png Yes I can!"
http://i.imgur.com/oEGXVtt.png No, you can't.

Not even with full Gear

[Rien]

I was thinking of only the initial stab, not the full thing.

...Unless Guilty Break is really that short even on full gear.

[UnLucky]

Nah, Guilty Break is further in one go with a full charge.
Shunka is further by the final hit.

And there's also KC to close gaps too.

[Zenobia]

I'm just wondering if that bow PA has piercing. If so, well... Really I'm kind of torn. It still doesn't change the fact that Bow has really shitty AoE compared to Katana and really doesn't get much in return... but it's pretty cool and probably will tear apart enemies in a line even better than Penetrating Shot.

I was more thinking of going full on ballista once a boss is stunned off a part break, all up in their face with it with Weak bullet. I do see what you mean though.

[Macman]

http://i.imgur.com/oEGXVtt.png No, you can't.

Not even with full Gear

Shunka is a terrible gap closer. All the stopping to swipe at the air ruins it for me.

Guilty Break is great, it's just a chore to have to build up gauge.

[Rien]

The funniest part is how Guilty Break spam is a good single target gauge builder...

[Zenobia]

I question how some of you even use Shunka to say it's a terrible gap closer.

[gigawuts]

The funniest part is how Guilty Break spam is a good single target gauge builder...

Indeed it is. Choose your targets wisely while gaining the first couple charges and you can go from 0 gear to 3 bars fairly quickly - you just have to pick a target that will let you hit multiple things at once. This is why it's such a valuable PA during bursts. If two or three enemies spawn in a clump you can target the one that would let you h it all of them and unleash it to hit them before they can really move, unlike ride slasher which will be slower and not hit small things nearly as hard despite being far superior for filling gear if you can land most of its hits.

Of course, if you can get enough things in one attack over end winds up being the best, I've filled the gear to 3 bars in the first swing during a 12 man crossburst in a packed in room and lord almighty was it amazing.

[Rien]

Tested with Fudou Kuchinashi and Shift Period, didn't work.

Edit: Tried Regenschlag and Facet Folia too.

[Daiyousei]

Tried out something with rifle and gunslash with Chdata and character got into a satellite cannon crouch with nothing else after that, even with mobs present.

Edit: something also goes on with the launcher PA but since a lot of the launcher animations are the same anyways, it's just probably the new spirit bomb PA without the effect after.

Edit2: yep Sacrifice bite animation definitely there, just won't grapple when tried on mob.

Some pictures:

Chaos riser
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http://i.imgur.com/mgy4qhY.png
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Satellite cannon
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http://i.imgur.com/sMCJxwJ.png
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Sacrifice Bite
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http://i.imgur.com/N3tV1Cw.png
http://i.imgur.com/pbA1V8I.png
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[Chdata]

We managed to do satellite cannon, but not the bow PA. We didn't manage to do the Knuckles PA either.

Also it was Twin Machine Guns (Shift Period) --> Bow/Rifle.

I also tried Katana Fudou --> Bow/Rifle to no effect.

Edit: Shift Period --> Sword = Sacrifice Bite

Shift Period --> Dsaber = Chaos Riser


Also I use shunka + triple LA dashing for gap closing. It's like the only viable gap closer for Br lol. I only use Asagiri as a speed boost during quads when not fighting.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Someone please try to get a visual of the partisan PA? I'd love you.

[Chdata]

We did, no luck. Some might not be in the game yet or something. Or this method just won't show them for whatever reason. I noticed that PAs that would move your character tend to mess up or not work. (Faking heel stab = You walk in place. With Regenshlag though, I managed to get stuck in the dashing pose).

[Rien]

But if you use the above method, and switch to bow instead of katana, does it do Banishing Arrow? Just to test.

And you've successfully done the new Katana PA, right?

yes I have indeed done the new Katana PA.

[ShinMaruku]

So braver and gunner went through a lara Croft TR14 change where she goes "THAT'S RIGHT, RUN YOU BASTARDS I'M COMING FOR YOU ALL!"
Look's legit. Call me when forces get that. http://hgsecret.com/forum/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/residentsleeper.png

[WildarmsRE5]

inb4 sacrifice bite gives insane amounts of dmg buff.

inb4 WB Overend at Falz Arms with sacrifice bite is over 999999.

without decent gear.

[gigawuts]

Oh yeah, I'm sure Sacrifice Bite will have spectacular damage.

I just wish it was for all HU weapons.

Anyone else love how they're not doing changes like this on the skilltrees anymore? All of the new stuff is on PAs and techs, which means they don't need to give out resets!

[Macman]

I doubt a mosquito bite PA will affect that much.

Techs really should warrant a skill tree reset pass, given how integral elemental masteries are to force builds.

[Shinamori]

But, aren't getting some new skills in the summer or something?

[Macman]

Is ranger FINALLY getting that Concentration skill? PLEASE???

[gigawuts]

I bet they do, and I bet it's beneath PP Bullet Save.

[WildarmsRE5]

I doubt a mosquito bite PA will affect that much.what if it doesn't and turns out to be the most broken of these PA batch?

[UnLucky]

It'd have to give like 2x damage for 30s to be good

[gigawuts]

Well, I'm thinking it'll be more like +50% damage for 1-2 minutes if you can hold it for 10 seconds, or faster if it builds up by damaging multiple things. Zondeel plus this might be god tier.

Of course, then it's really more like a second gear bar than anything else, and did sword really need another dwindling gear bar? No, no it did not.

[Angelo]

Aren't we getting these in 2 days?

[Shadowth117]

Aren't we getting these in 2 days?

The katana pa was never announced. In fact, there's actually no indication its going to be released any time soon, if at all. We might see in 3 weeks, might see it in a year, and really just plain may not ever actually see it.

[Skywolf]

The katana pa was never announced. In fact, there's actually no indication its going to be released any time soon, if at all. We might see in 3 weeks, might see it in a year, and really just plain may not ever actually see it.

You can actually see it being used in the April preview video, so i'm assuming we are getting it around then.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

The katana pa was never announced. In fact, there's actually no indication its going to be released any time soon, if at all. We might see in 3 weeks, might see it in a year, and really just plain may not ever actually see it.

'New PAs' are in the spring roadmap.


Oh yeah, I'm sure Sacrifice Bite will have spectacular damage.

I can't get this sarcastic impression out of my head.

[Atmius]

Apparently Ilgrants is ridiculous - seems to do 10 hits of 7k each witg just demo gear? inb4 light is the new it element

The promo video shot of it has it doing around 600-1100 damage for 7 hits, though the enemy dies before everything connects.

[Rien]

You can actually see it being used in the April preview video, so i'm assuming we are getting it around then.

there's an april preview video?

Edit: If you mean the one showcasing il megid and the like, it's actually just over end since the hunter only uses sword/wirelance.

[Ezodagrom]

'New PAs' are in the spring roadmap.
The roadmap in the PSO2 website only mentions new PAs for sword, rifle, double saber and ice and light techs for late March, and PAs for wired lances, knuckles, launcher and a dark tech for early April.

Katana, bow, partisan PAs and the wind tech are not in the roadmap yet, but their icons were found through datamining.
Since all the new PAs are being released in AQs, I'm guessing that most likely the ones not listed in the roadmap yet will be released with a new set of AQs (most likely Coast, Quarry and Seabed).

[Shadowth117]

You can actually see it being used in the April preview video, so i'm assuming we are getting it around then.

Really? Alright, forgive me then I'm dumb lol.

[Daiyousei]

after actually watching the entire scene with the tenken and benihiko, I believe Sega referenced the first part of benihiko and then finished off with the tenken, in the reverse order as seen in the show. because having the tenken animation first just would be boring as he just lifts the sword up and slashes down.

[Rien]

after actually watching the entire scene with the tenken and benihiko, I believe Sega referenced the first part of benihiko and then finished off with the tenken, in the reverse order as seen in the show. because having the tenken animation first just would be boring as he just lifts the sword up and slashes down.

Actually if you want to reference Bleach, it's Nijigasumi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiUZ8hxgiwA

[Friyn]

Actually if you want to reference Bleach, it's Nijigasumi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiUZ8hxgiwA

I knew I had seen the katana PA elsewhere...so it was from Bleach.

[Daiyousei]

Well at least it's referencing bleach in some way.

[UnLucky]

It's a pretty classic motion, not from Bleach specifically.

You don't even need a sword to do it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ZlwGrxYtQ

[Rien]

It doesn't have the sword trails, though.

[UnLucky]

Of course not, since he has no sword!

But the hands, man! THE HANDS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boQ4VURSYVs

[FacelessRed]

You guys making me feel old if you are trying to use Super robot wars as a reference to the move.

Bruce lee did it in Fist of Fury, and it was also emulated by Kenshiro from Fist of the north star (cause he is meant to be Bruce Lee)

http://mel.vadeker.net/bruce_lee_hands.gif

The braver move and most moves thereafter reference that motion.

[UnLucky]

The SRW was just the most recent one I noticed.

It's in everything.

[Kondibon]

http://youtu.be/U2VievK24U0?t=1m12s

[GoldenFalcon]

A lot like that moon slash, Basara has a move where Kojuro does the motion while creating a moon, but he slashes the moon in half to hit the enemies. It's also instant kill

The important thing here is the blade trails though, but I guess people are just having a field day

[Rien]

sorry to bump, but after looking at nico nico tags the earliest instance of this is the Engetsu Sappou (円月殺法) which, taken in it's literal sense, means "Full Moon Killing Method". It's from a really old movie called Nemuri Kyoshiro, where it's the style used by... Kyoshiro.

http://youtu.be/pLTL2Ow3chc?t=30m11s

http://youtu.be/3oTopeumt6g?t=1m54s

Here it is in SRW

[Daiyousei]

sorry to bump, but after looking at nico nico tags the earliest instance of this is the Engetsu Sappou (円月殺法) which, taken in it's literal sense, means "Full Moon Killing Method". It's from a really old movie called Nemuri Kyoshiro, where it's the style used by... Kyoshiro.

http://youtu.be/pLTL2Ow3chc?t=30m11s

http://youtu.be/3oTopeumt6g?t=1m54s

Here it is in SRW

First video is blocked but I know what you mean, one scene even had the sword trail.

[Chdata]

first video blocked

[Rien]

The first video was a link to one of the many movies, so figures.

http://youtu.be/FOxA8IAdc9w?t=1m53s

It's a trailer for one of the movies, so you can't see it clearly, but it's the man who made the motion famous.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

The first video was a link to one of the many movies, so figures.

http://youtu.be/FOxA8IAdc9w?t=1m53s

It's a trailer for one of the movies, so you can't see it clearly, but it's the man who made the motion famous.

So... is there a wiki page to that motion detailing every use of it in entertainment ever?

You sure he was the first?

Just curious.

[Rien]

No there ain't a wiki page to the motion. However, some japanese searching has lead me to believe that the fictional character Kyoshiro is indeed the first to make this motion (with a sword), or at least make it famous.

It dates back to the novel series Nemuri Kyoshiro written by 柴田錬三郎 (Shibata Renzaburo) which was written in the 1950's. The Engetsu Sappou is inspired by the Enso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D), which shows clearly since the character will draw the Enso with the sword. Add in some sword trail special effects and pewf, Engetsu Sappou is born.

[mahavalo]

This..

http://youtu.be/_POLaiuEfcE?t=8m59s

[Silver Crow]

This..

http://youtu.be/_POLaiuEfcE?t=8m59s

wtf, you're right.

Sega completely ripped it from that o.o

[Coatl]

Nice, so now that we all know about the Katana PA being a reference to a very old motion, I wanted to ask if anyone knew where Final Nemesis came from.

http://youtu.be/Q_2oFrm9yfk?t=40s

Because I swear that's not original.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Nice, so now that we all know about the Katana PA being a reference to a very old motion, I wanted to ask if anyone knew where Final Nemesis came from.

http://youtu.be/Q_2oFrm9yfk?t=40s

Because I swear that's not original.

That's almost like asking who was the first person in history to fart.

[Tenlade]

Maidoll comic

I want that final panal as a symbol art, I wish i could trace worth shit to do it myself.

[Kikikiki]

Nice, so now that we all know about the Katana PA being a reference to a very old motion, I wanted to ask if anyone knew where Final Nemesis came from.

http://youtu.be/Q_2oFrm9yfk?t=40s

Because I swear that's not original.

Isn't it just a rip-off from Fate's Caladbolg II to commend on the Helix bow camo?

I don't know where that move from Archer originally came from though.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Isn't it just a rip-off from Fate's Caladbolg II to commend on the Helix bow camo?

... which is most likely a rip off from another ripoff of another ripoff...

[Kikikiki]

... which is most likely a rip off from another ripoff of another ripoff...

I dunno, it's Type-Moon, they can rip it off from legends and myths and make it look original. I don't really care.

Well here's something:


Caladbolg is the demonic sword wielded by the Irish hero Fergus mac Róich in Celtic mythology. The version that Archer projects has been altered to improve its function as an arrow.
In the legends, Fergus mac Róich was the former king of Ulster and foster-father of the hero Cú Chulainn. However, he was tricked out of his kingship, and later allied with Connacht, an enemy of Ulster. During the decisive battle between Connacht and Ulster, Fergus was able to corner the enemy king who had betrayed him, but was prevented from killing him. It is said that he redirected his rage at this turn of events upon three hills, using Caladbolg to blast their tops clean off.
Cú Chulainn is affected by a geis that makes it his duty to be defeated once by the sword so long as the wielder is Ulster-born. For that reason, it could be said to be his natural enemy.
Also, there is a theory that the Caladbolg from Celtic mythology is the same sword as the Caledfwlch from Welsh mythology, making it a prototype of Excalibur.

[Chdata]

This PA is like magic.

As bluejumpsuit said, it's ripped off from people who ripped it off from other people.