The next set of SH AQs is coming...

[Arksenth]

Is anyone hoping that at least some of the 11s weapons from SH AQs will be super rare? I was kind of disappointed with this batch of AQs - nothing that drops there is particularly uncommon, and it feels like there isn't really anything to work towards. It would be nice if there were at least a few uncommon 11s with a slight edge over common ones to balance out the trash ones so people actually have a motivation to run AQ...

[BIG OLAF]

If so, it'll be the rares in the Sky AQ. Sky always seems to get the hyper uber-rare stuff every time there's an update to its drop tables.

[Zenobia]

Long as that one Katana I saw has a shitty latent and isn't stronger then I'll be fine but it has Judgement and is stronger than the rock bear one well....also skylands will be my playground for Susano hunting people will be spamming that area.

[gaijin_punch]

Agreed. Some of the 11-stars definitely drop a bit too much.

[Shadowth117]

Oh no, obtainable drops! How horrid!

[Chdata]

I think the only goal to achieve out of that

obtain the 30 11* twin daggers or mech guns or whatever you need to 50 element your more expensive falz/TD 11*.

lol


Lol at how 360 the community has gone. I remember back in the day...

"rare drop rate is horrible! rares don't exist!"

Now it's

"god damn, 11* are way too common"

[gigawuts]

I think the only goal to achieve out of that

obtain the 30 11* twin daggers or mech guns or whatever you need to 50 element your more expensive falz/TD 11*.

lol


Lol at how 360 the community has gone. I remember back in the day...

"rare drop rate is horrible! rares don't exist!"

Now it's

"god damn, 11* are way too common"

Everyone has a different opinion, so there's bound to be someone who dislikes something about the game no matter what it is. Rares are rare? I want to find them. Rares are common? Mine aren't special anymore.

[Dnd]

Oh no, obtainable drops! How horrid!

How dare sega actually listen to us after 2 years of retardedly high drop-rates!
Honestly, I've said it before but this is so, so god dam amusing it hurts my sides.

Semi rare drops from AQs? we already have them. But not being 1/100000 and not worth 100mill doesn't count, i suppose right?

[ugonna100]

Wait so you're telling me I can get Helen Trager TMG if I do the SH TA and it WON'T be hard as balls?

[Macman]

Oh no, obtainable drops! How horrid!
Ain't it the worst? Now I can't fuel people's envy with my ugly 11* Garongo katana!

We've endured a year and a half of absolutely horrid drop rates. It's a breath of fresh air to actually have a reasonable shot at getting something useful.

[Zenobia]

Ehh people want to stroke those epeens pretty hard I see. Doesn't matter if some don't get them in the new SH AQ's people will just buy them and your precious rare that you found still wont be common so all that is irrelevant.

[Zorafim]

Is anyone hoping that at least some of the 11s weapons from SH AQs will be super rare? I was kind of disappointed with this batch of AQs - nothing that drops there is particularly uncommon, and it feels like there isn't really anything to work towards. It would be nice if there were at least a few uncommon 11s with a slight edge over common ones to balance out the trash ones so people actually have a motivation to run AQ...

...what's wrong with you?

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Is anyone hoping that at least some of the 11s weapons from SH AQs will be super rare? I was kind of disappointed with this batch of AQs - nothing that drops there is particularly uncommon, and it feels like there isn't really anything to work towards. It would be nice if there were at least a few uncommon 11s with a slight edge over common ones to balance out the trash ones so people actually have a motivation to run AQ...

Get out.

[Coatl]

Before: Rares are too rare so why bother playing the game to get them.
Now: Rares are too common so why bother playing the game to get them.


I don't think the problem is the drop rates.

[Chdata]

TBH I'm happy with top damage gear being easily accessible now, to the point that the more expensive part is the grinding/affixing of it.

[Arksenth]

Ugh!

I hate using the same weapons as poor people!

What is wrong with all of you?

The elite weapons belong only to the elite class!

Sigh!

The nerve of poor people!

[Macman]

Says you. I enjoy SH AQ because I might actually see something interesting drop that's not a fucking 7*.

I witnessed my friend who exclusively uses Double Sabers get the 11* one in Desert on her 2nd run through it and it was satisfying both to me and her to see that drop (She was stuck with Dio Spiritia at the time). She's a fan of Wise Stance so watching her reaction to the latent was even more pleasing.

If this still worked like VH AQ we'd just be seeing 200 blue double sabers over the course of 7 months before it would drop, and by then there'd be 12* double sabers or something which were the new standard.

EDIT:

Ugh!

I hate using the same weapons as poor people!

What is wrong with all of you?

The elite weapons belong only to the elite class!

Sigh!

The nerve of poor people!
The nerve of you! Bow to my God Hand, 11* pleb!

[Arksenth]

It has Spirit Collector as a latent.

Spirit Collector.

On a Knuckle.

You should feel bad, poor person!

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

Ugh!

I hate using the same weapons as poor people!

What is wrong with all of you?

The elite weapons belong only to the elite class!

Sigh!

The nerve of poor people!

For a second there, I took your OP seriously.

Now you're back to normal.

[Macman]

It has Spirit Collector as a latent.

Spirit Collector.

On a Knuckle.

You should feel bad, poor person!
Keep grasping for straws the same way you grasp for Falz's loot, you unblessed, unworthy, unlucky commoner!

This is more fun than it should be. Send help.

[Arksenth]

I don't even do the Dark Falz EQ anymore, poor person!

Dark Falz Elder is a poor person, and thus, unworthy of my time!

I can't even be assed to show my radiance in front of him!

I know I am so pretty and rich!

[Chdata]

I want psycho wand

so I can put malluda soul, pow III, and tech III on it.


and go melee te with it



it's a rod

[Macman]

I remember when Psycho Wand was still brand new, it's s-atk was comparable to top-end swords at the time.

[Zorafim]

I don't even do the Dark Falz EQ anymore, poor person!

Dark Falz Elder is a poor person, and thus, unworthy of my time!

I can't even be assed to show my radiance in front of him!

I know I am so pretty and rich!

Ah, this entire exchange made my day.
Well, it was a pretty good day overall, so I wouldn't go that far. I guess it made my...minute? However much time it took to read it.

[btw-Niji]

I don't even do the Dark Falz EQ anymore, poor person!

Dark Falz Elder is a poor person, and thus, unworthy of my time!

I can't even be assed to show my radiance in front of him!

I know I am so pretty and rich!
I agree with this guy!

Get out of this thread, you poor people!

[Macman]

Dark Falz Elder drops the most amount of Meseta next to Mesetan. He's very much not poor.

[Rakurai]

Wonder how long it'll be before they release some TMGs better the ones available from the current SHAQs. They'd have to have a really good latent to be worth consideration, and I really doubt the ones being released in the next set of AQs will be worth it at all.

That or they could finally release a set of TMGs with high T-ATK on them. FO/GU could actually be decent assuming that you can abuse S-Roll Bonus with techs that have a travel time like Na/Il Foie.

[Chdata]

Mesetan is poor!

Only has 300k!

That is less than 0.000001% of my wealth!

Ho ho ho!

Poor people!




(actually I'm really poor, never broke 25m)

[HBK666]

Mesetan is poor!

Only has 300k!

That is less than 0.000001% of my wealth!

Ho ho ho!

Poor people!




(actually I'm really poor, never broke 25m)

http://s0.uploads.im/rTM48.gif

[strikerhunter]

Yea 11*s are easy now but don't worry, in a few months we'll get new falz and new 12 man EQ this summer that well have 12* and 13* with ungodly drop rates.

[Macman]

Mesetan is poor!

Only has 300k!
Then you consider how many people Falz/Mesetan has to divvy up their handouts across the playerbase...

[Zipzo]

Keep grasping for straws the same way you grasp for Falz's loot, you unblessed, unworthy, unlucky commoner!

This is more fun than it should be. Send help.

I find the act to be tiresome and overplayed, he rarely brings anything new to the table. I've read more interesting trolls at Shoryuken.

[isCasted]

If you want better weapons, grind XQs. SHAQ weapons can be used for boosting elements of those.

[jcart953]

Before: Rares are too rare so why bother playing the game to get them.
Now: Rares are too common so why bother playing the game to get them.


I don't think the problem is the drop rates.

Yup this ^

[Rien]

I've been doing so many SHAQs and I'm yet to obtain an 11* sword or katana

I think the high drop rates should be kept as-is... or boosted even higher.

[Zipzo]

I think people's idea of the drop rates are over inflated from boost week. I seriously have only received a total of 3 11* weapons and I have run a looooot of AQs, meanwhile folks I know who have gotten none, and other folks I know have passes out the hoohah.

It's just RNG.

[Friyn]

I think people's idea of the drop rates are over inflated from boost week. I seriously have only received a total of 3 11* weapons and I have run a looooot of AQs, meanwhile folks I know who have gotten none, and other folks I know have passes out the hoohah.

It's just RNG.

Started running SH AQs after couple days into boost week. Up till this day I've found ~30x 11* weapons. Droprate for 11*s is very high, atleast off trash mobs. I haven't found nowhere near all of 11*s there are, but that's why there is a premium.

[Shinamori]

Yeah it's RNG. I ran 4 forest SHAQs sunday and I gor about 3-4 11*, 1 of which I was using an 250%, the other 3 was just using the 50% RDR boost at the time. I don't think the drop rate is that high. It's just that people spammed SHAQs so much that it seemed high.

[Saffran]

I dunno, one AQ forest, one 11 stars.
Since I'm actually too poor to keep up with girnding affxing stuff, I can't say I'm too excited about *more* easy 11 stars to be obtained.
And at the same time I'm glad they do drop, because my gear is outdated...
It's very bizarre.

[RadiantLegend]

I'm fine with the drop rates. Seeing one 11* every few runs is satisfying.

[milranduil]

Yeah it's RNG. I ran 4 forest SHAQs sunday and I gor about 3-4 11*, 1 of which I was using an 250%, the other 3 was just using the 50% RDR boost at the time. I don't think the drop rate is that high. It's just that people spammed SHAQs so much that it seemed high.

Compared to regular SH rares and VH AQ rares, it's high.

[FupaVirus]

I think the only goal to achieve out of that

obtain the 30 11* twin daggers or mech guns or whatever you need to 50 element your more expensive falz/TD 11*.

lol


Lol at how 360 the community has gone. I remember back in the day...

"rare drop rate is horrible! rares don't exist!"

Now it's

"god damn, 11* are way too common"

That's a 180, lol. If the community 360'd they be back where they started. xD

[jooozek]

even if you compare it to tower defense the drop rates are really great
i've got like 51 11* passes now and also sold few weapons, including 2x 50 element desert shaq twin mechs
i don't care if all but few of those are worthless, they are almost all good and have nice requirements like defense ones, don't even need x-attack mags to equip good shit
what is there to bitch about? you are capped, you can do the SHAQs then you very well bloody deserve the drop rates

[Zipzo]

That's a 180, lol. If the community 360'd they be back where they started. xD

Maybe it was an old play at an old joke...

[Chdata]

who cares lol!

[UnLucky]

Yeah, just the other day I got four 11*s and two Holy Rays from SHAQ Forest.

Sad that the only thing you can do with them is make passes since I don't have 11* daggers or knuckles that I want to 50%. They're next to useless if you're not planning on equipping them.

At least my Light 3s Holy Ray sold for 250k, though!

[Chdata]

Then you consider how many people Falz/Mesetan has to divvy up their handouts across the playerbase...

Ho ho ho!

I make more than that in a day!




(I know some people who probably actually do).

[Shinamori]

I just wonder if Susano's will get cheaper.

[Arksenth]

Susanoguren prices will probably crash with SH F. Cont AQ, yeah.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

I just wonder if Susano's will get cheaper.

White day is still on for today.

SHAQ F cont is coming tomorrow.

Boost week is over, so most anyone that wanted a pimped susano got one and affixed it during that week, so they're selling slower=more time for people to undercut each other in stupid intervals.

Then there's the known-unknown in the form of new SHAQ katanas.

Yes, as hard as it is even for me to believe, susanos will get even cheaper within the week.



Slightly less relevant factors; We're going to get a bio katana eventually. TD2 has a katana, but most likely has the -17% pp cost potential, and most likely wont make up for the damage loss of not having judgement time through pure s atk advantage.

[UnLucky]

They already dropped a bunch from White Day, despite Chris rarely showing up.

[Arksenth]

I thought non-rare Quartz drops it too, though?

Bio Katana is going to make the Susanoguren price crash even more.

[UnLucky]

Normal Quartz does too, I think, yeah.

But I meant more Darker bosses and Noire crashed the party

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

I thought non-rare Quartz drops it too, though?

Bio Katana is going to make the Susanoguren price crash even more.

As I've said.

I just said that was slightly less relevant facter sine we don't know exactly when we're getting 51-60 oceanids XQ floors. It would most likely after susano drops to less than 10mil.


Normal Quartz does too, I think, yeah.


Correct. Both quartz and cryss drop susano

[Tenlade]

Everyone has a different opinion, so there's bound to be someone who dislikes something about the game no matter what it is. Rares are rare? I want to find them. Rares are common? Mine aren't special anymore.

I think the issue lately is "shit, i already maxed all my character's levels and have my rares. what do I do now?"

Most people on my team either got all the gear they need until the next difficulty increase or are waiting for a specific rare to come out. The drop rate is pretty great for non premium users, but even then the fully affixed 10* trade ins are pretty good as well since they already come at 50 element

[UnLucky]

That's why everything ever is going to come out soon.

[Shinamori]

We'll cheapest 1 in ship 2 is JUST shy for 14.9mil. Hell, I saw one for 20mil Lv3 latent 3s, and 50%. I think it was fire or light.

Edit: Fixed a typo.

[Arksenth]

We'll cheapest 1 in ship is JUST shy for 14.9mil. Hell, I saw one for 2mil Lv3 latent 3s, and 50%. I think it was fire or light.

=|

This is my point.

Now that the 11s weapons are the "to have" weapons, what is there to work towards in this game? 15m or less is absolute chump change, and that's probably the most expensive you'd pay for a top tier weapon now.

I miss the days of when top-tier stuff cost 100m+.

:-?

[Shinamori]

Ohohoho poor people?

15mil is quite a lot for me. Then again, there's no telling how many people actually has one.

[milranduil]

I enjoy being able to hunt weapons in a reasonable time frame as opposed to it taking so long to drop that the next, better tier of weapons is out.

[Arksenth]

I enjoy being able to hunt weapons in a reasonable time frame as opposed to it taking so long to drop that the next, better tier of weapons is out.

Why don't you just buy it?

I mean, if you don't have the meseta to buy it immediately on release, I understand. You can just wait a few days for prices to hover down a little.

[Shinamori]

I personally love to buy the 11* ZRA TMGs, but I don't have premium. Though honestly, I wouldn't spend over 10~12mil on a weapon. I bought a Ran Glitter for 1mil, and I found 1 within 2 days. -_-

[nathanielzor]

15m for a weapon is too cheap?
Why dont you go spend 100m 7 slotting them then!

[ShinMaruku]

I'd rather there be rares that are build and game changing. Farther than the point of the elysion where they make certain builds and combinations viable like crit mass was in diablo 3.

[milranduil]

Why don't you just buy it?

I mean, if you don't have the meseta to buy it immediately on release, I understand. You can just wait a few days for prices to hover down a little.

Not that I don't have meseta for top tier weps (I dumped 106mil on my Susano :wacko:), but some of us like to actually hunt things in this game... that's kind of been one of the pastimes I enjoy doing with Phantasy Star since GameCube.

[ShinMaruku]

Sometimes I wonder if people play the game for the loot or for the game. I like that the game tries to balance both but would be suited to doing one over the other. I mean Blizzard can't do it and those people are true believers.

[Tenlade]

=|

This is my point.

Now that the 11s weapons are the "to have" weapons, what is there to work towards in this game? 15m or less is absolute chump change, and that's probably the most expensive you'd pay for a top tier weapon now.

I miss the days of when top-tier stuff cost 100m+.

:-?

A man with all the money in the world, and can't spend it on anything. Poetic.

[ShinMaruku]

A true rich man would be in making money regardless of spending. I think we found a fraud.

[gigawuts]

arksenth should get some 8slotted waterguns

like i'm not even joking

i need to see this

they don't even have to be good affixes, i just really need to see this

[Arksenth]

arksenth should get some 8slotted waterguns

like i'm not even joking

i need to see this

they don't even have to be good affixes, i just really need to see this

why would i spend eight consecutive days buying weapons from the market and running back to dudu to have it fail every single time

im not a rng god

whats in it for me

[strikerhunter]

why would i spend eight consecutive days buying weapons from the market and running back to dudu to have it fail every single time

im not a rng god

But yo Klotho's brother!

[ShinMaruku]

why would i spend eight consecutive days buying weapons from the market and running back to dudu to have it fail every single time

im not a rng god

whats in it for me

And that is why you rich but not wealthy. :P Gain some wealth.

[SisterPrincess]

arksenth should get some 8slotted waterguns

like i'm not even joking

i need to see this

they don't even have to be good affixes, i just really need to see this

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23125490

Someone did grind it to 8 slot already. It's nothing new anymore.

[milranduil]

And that is why you rich but not wealthy. :P Gain some wealth.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wealthy

[btw-Niji]

When does this guy stop embarrassing himself in every post?

[BIG OLAF]

Someone did grind it to 8 slot already. It's nothing new anymore.

Where did he say it was something "new?"

He just said he wanted to see Arksenth do it.

:-?

[Arksenth]

Gigawuts wants to see me do lots of things.

None of those things are happening.

(Unless he pays my $24.98 a minute webcam guy fee)

[pkemr4]

wonder if these new SHAQ's will drop anything better then the current 3 SHAQ's we have...

[BIG OLAF]

wonder if these new SHAQ's will drop anything better then the current 3 SHAQ's we have...

Of course they will. Planned obsolescence and all.

[Chdata]

I want to buy some 70m affixed guld milas and sell my old ones...



but i'm poor

[Tenlade]

Gigawuts wants to see me do lots of things.

None of those things are happening.

(Unless he pays my $24.98 a minute webcam guy fee)
24.98? Are you buying a new webcam every minute with that fee?

[gaijin_punch]

Out of curiosity, for those that like the current 11-star drop rates, did you ever play the DC or GC PSO games? I understand w/ content being updated regularly, rarity can change, but from what I read on the internet, the drop rates still seemed way better than definitely the DC, and in a lot of cases the GC.

Also seems there's lots of desirable 10-stars (Susano) that don't drop nearly as much as the 11-stars. Just my observation.

[milranduil]

I could hunt spread needle in a few days spamming ULT EN4 (ruins) from Merlans at a 1/900 drop rate. ~35 runs on average per drop. Meanwhile I've killed 1300+ quartz and never gotten a susano after months. I think that speaks for itself right there.

Edit: We could throw in Pwand, HPunisher, Sealed J-Sword if you like. Pwand/Hpunisher were 1/213 from Mil Lily (Purplenum) & Hildetorr (Bluefull?) which were annoying but still huntable. 1/213 is a BETTER drop rate than the VH/SH rare enemies in PSO2 by a long shot for essentially outdated equipment now (Diez Liu for example). Sealed J-Sword, yes that was a bitch to hunt. You had basically no choice but to do PW4 first few floor spam to hunt that and its dull. But that is ONE item unlike PSO2s essentially entire SH arsenal of equips that have equivalent or worse drop rates.

[gaijin_punch]

I could hunt spread needle in a few days spamming ULT EN4 (ruins) from Merlans at a 1/900 drop rate. ~35 runs on average per drop. Meanwhile I've killed 1300+ quartz and never gotten a susano after months. I think that speaks for itself right there.

The Susano was the 10-star I was referencing above. ;)

I did Heat Sword Forest 1 700 times, and never got a Hang Gun: Milla. :( That might be what turned me off from the game. There's tons of other brutal drops. 1/213 is a good drop rate but the rare enemy rate in PSO is shit unless you use the Ryuka trick. Now THAT was dull.

Admittedly I've not been playing PSO2 long. I'm basing my findings on getting 11-stars relatively easily in SHAQs. How many items are there in the Susano tier? That is, highly desired and rarely drop?

I guess PSO2's "awful" drop rates never got close to the DCs, which sucked balls. The other thing here that changes everything is the ease of buying from shops. Trading on the GC even was quite cumbersome. Totally required forums, and tons of actual work.

[milranduil]

The Susano was the 10-star I was referencing above. ;)

I did Heat Sword Forest 1 700 times, and never got a Hang Gun: Milla. :( That might be what turned me off from the game. There's tons of other brutal drops. 1/213 is a good drop rate but the rare enemy rate in PSO is shit unless you use the Ryuka trick. Now THAT was dull.

PSOBB had more efficient methods for hunting rare enemies (online quests, for example). It was still dull, but not seemingly impossible like hunting anything in this game.

[Zipzo]

I could hunt spread needle in a few days spamming ULT EN4 (ruins) from Merlans at a 1/900 drop rate. ~35 runs on average per drop. Meanwhile I've killed 1300+ quartz and never gotten a susano after months. I think that speaks for itself right there.

Edit: We could throw in Pwand, HPunisher, Sealed J-Sword if you like. Pwand/Hpunisher were 1/213 from Mil Lily (Purplenum) & Hildetorr (Bluefull?) which were annoying but still huntable. 1/213 is a BETTER drop rate than the VH/SH rare enemies in PSO2 by a long shot for essentially outdated equipment now (Diez Liu for example). Sealed J-Sword, yes that was a bitch to hunt. You had basically no choice but to do PW4 first few floor spam to hunt that and its dull. But that is ONE item unlike PSO2s essentially entire SH arsenal of equips that have equivalent or worse drop rates.

*ahem

I'm sorry, you actually found a Sealed J Sword?

I never found anything in PSO of such value. Ever.

[Z-0]

PSOBB was nice for hunting because you could always improve your hunt in some way and it was nice to do that.

[milranduil]

*ahem

I'm sorry, you actually found a Sealed J Sword?

I never found anything in PSO of such value. Ever.

I never bothered hunting that because I didn't play a Hunter besides HUcast (Red Sword + Excalibur for that job). I did find Agito 1975 (same rarity as Lavis Cannon), ironically from a Tollaw while leveling my umpteenth char through TTF. Also found a Psycho Wand which my FOnewm never let out of his grasp (still plows through existence on a special server :wacko:).

[Z-0]

I just traded for my TJS, I'm a scrub.

[gaijin_punch]

PSOBB was nice for hunting because you could always improve your hunt in some way and it was nice to do that.

It was better in a few ways, definitely. Some, not so much.

I'm not trying to play devil's advocate, just generally wondering. Seems Sonic Team's stance on drops changed a few times, with the DC being atrocious, the GC being tolerable on some things (but still tough), them getting a bit easier to hunt, with more options, on BB, and then Episode IV's drop rates going to shit... and half the items being total turds. :D

[milranduil]

They later fixed Ep4 drops to be as reasonable as Ep1/2 rates. Some stuff, like Lame D'argent/Excalibur actually became rarer, but deservedly so. It was 1/21 from a 1/10 chance rare boss so it wasn't that difficult to hunt before the drop changes.

[Zipzo]

I just traded for my TJS, I'm a scrub.

Call me ol'e fashioned but I was under the impression that if you traded for one of these it was just a dupe, as the existence of these in legitimate form was either so decisively rare or non-existent even (the community couldn't even agree on the theories of how to unlock the SJS, I remember at least 5 different ones).


I never bothered hunting that because I didn't play a Hunter besides HUcast (Red Sword + Excalibur for that job). I did find Agito 1975 (same rarity as Lavis Cannon), ironically from a Tollaw while leveling my umpteenth char through TTF. Also found a Psycho Wand which my FOnewm never let out of his grasp (still plows through existence on a special server :wacko:).

I was a HUnewearl and the rarest things I ever found (and used forever until the game died) was a Flowen Sword model AUW84 that I teched to 35% hit. The one that drains TP for damage. It was so leet. I found a Sacred Cloth that became my favorite armor to wear due to the resistance to paralysis, and aside from that pretty much every other quality item I used I had to trade for.

[Z-0]

Call me ol'e fashioned but I was under the impression that if you traded for one of these it was just a dupe, as the existence of these in legitimate form was either so decisively rare or non-existent even (the community couldn't even agree on the theories of how to unlock the SJS, I remember at least 5 different ones).
You killed some number of enemies with it, then "used" it.

[milranduil]

Call me ol'e fashioned but I was under the impression that if you traded for one of these it was just a dupe, as the existence of these in legitimate form was either so decisively rare or non-existent even (the community couldn't even agree on the theories of how to unlock the SJS, I remember at least 5 different ones).

It was established that you needed 23k kill hits to unlock the sword a while ago (PSOBB days). Lame D'argent needed 10k and Limiter (unit) needed to 20k.

[gaijin_punch]

Best item I found was a Red Sword w/ about 30% hit. And, FSOD'ed it. :(

The adjusted Ep4 items were fine... when it first came out though... what a pain.

Sad that a lot of those items will fade into obscurity, unless you want to play on a private server.

[Punisher106]

Best item I found was a Red Sword w/ about 30% hit. And, FSOD'ed it. :(

The adjusted Ep4 items were fine... when it first came out though... what a pain.

Sad that a lot of those items will fade into obscurity, unless you want to play on a private server.

*Waves his HS which took 2 years to find* >.>

[Ce'Nedra]

*sees discussion about uber rares on PSO1* *hides 3 memory cards with all but 3 of them...with hit %*

I wish I had that kind of luck on PSO2 ^^;

[Alfonquez]

Poor people talking about PSOBB.

I made mad money with BB, thanks based proxy.

[milranduil]

Poor people talking about PSOBB.

I made mad money with BB, thanks based proxy.

Joke's on you meseta was worthless in PSO1 :wacko:

[Alfonquez]

Joke's on you meseta was worthless in PSO1 :wacko:

Jokes on you, meseta was the real thing in psobb unlike pso2. Only a poor player played a non-hucast class.

Thank you based Vjaya.
Hucast-domination!

[milranduil]

zerk/hell needle or gtfo

[Alfonquez]

zerk/hell needle or gtfo

Sup stonecutter,

Hell is an episode 2 only thing and even there it isn't as reliable as killing in one to two swings with vjaya. Zerk needle is useless as fuck. Why? Ra's have low atp, the needle has low atp, the damage is even when zerking low as fuck compared to the damage output of a hucast. Let's not forget the ability to one shot every single enemy with a combo locked DF.

Edit: Besides Delbiter, Dorphons, Detonators and Girtablulu which would require a combo unlocked DF.

[RadiantLegend]

Demons Needle > ALL

[Alfonquez]

Demons Needle > ALL

Depends too much on activations, therefore its only good on girtablulu. And even then I'd recommend a demons-mechgun or slicer of fanatic ( SNS )

Cheers poor players

[Punisher106]

Jokes on you, meseta was the real thing in psobb unlike pso2. Only a poor player played a non-hucast class.

Thank you based Vjaya.
Hucast-domination!


zerk/hell needle or gtfo

Excalibur says hi.

[Alfonquez]

Excalibur says hi.

Hucast+excal->ra+excal

Excalibur has totally the same damage output as vjaya and also hits in the same angle/range :-o

Poor players astonish me

[Macman]

Hit% M&A Vise here, tearing up bosses faster than you can say "Photon Drop"

[Alfonquez]

Hit% M&A Vise here, tearing up bosses faster than you can say "Photon Drop"



Have fun spamming that Towards The Future and Respective Tomorrow all day, because poor players are unable to play a real quest

[.Melody.]

Have fun spamming that Towards The Future and Respective Tomorrow all day, because poor players are unable to play a real quest

There are no real quests on pso2. huehuehue

[milranduil]

Sup stonecutter,

Hell is an episode 2 only thing and even there it isn't as reliable as killing in one to two swings with vjaya. Zerk needle is useless as fuck. Why? Ra's have low atp, the needle has low atp, the damage is even when zerking low as fuck compared to the damage output of a hucast. Let's not forget the ability to one shot every single enemy with a combo locked DF.

Edit: Besides Delbiter, Dorphons, Detonators and Girtablulu which would require a combo unlocked DF.

Ya, RAcasts sucks.
[spoiler-box]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAfv2WRi3qE
[/spoiler-box]

[BIG OLAF]

Poor players astonish me


poor players are unable to play a real quest

The fuck is this guy, Arksenth's cousin?

[Arksenth]

Everyone wants to be like me, the prettiest and most popular cheerleader in all of PSO-World High!

It's like I show up to school with a dildo one day and then the next day everyone is sporting it like the new fashion accessory.

Ohohohohohohoho!

Poor person can't even afford their own personalities!

[Alfonquez]

Ya, RAcasts sucks.
[spoiler-box]
lolk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAfv2WRi3qE)
[/spoiler-box]


Sup stonecutter,

You did well poor player. Well in admitting how racast sucks. Let's take a look at the not updated Record list:

https://sites.google.com/site/psobbrecords/ultmode

[SPOILER-BOX]Maximum Attack 4th Stage -4C- (MA4C EP4)

1) 21:29 (remaining) mt79607 (HUct), 16085k (FOnm), Alukard (HUmr), 500ryu (HUct) 2013-09-15

2) 21:23 (remaining) Brandon (HUct), Joey (FOnm), iter (RAct), Dyne (HUct) 2012-09-24
[Video 1], [Video 2], [Video 3]

3) 21:00 (remaining) mt79607 (RAct), Revision (HUct), Alukard (HUmr), DGM (FOnl) 2012-08-13[/SPOILER-BOX]

seems like that casual racast run isn't even in the list. And that list isn't even updated, there is a unlisted run that is alot faster than those and has Fo+Hucast only :)

also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIkI-7wMoD8

16'17 with 4way PB ( Lvl 81 Shifta/deband) on 3x racasts and a ramarl vs

[SPOILER] 1) 16:35 (remaining) Revision (HUct), mt79607 (HUct), 16085k (FOml), Alukard (HUct)

which is a fo+3x hucasts no pb run ( lvl 30 shifta/deband for the uninformed poor players). DAMN RACAST IS DA BEST.

O wait, look at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FRwNDL3J1Q

16'33 4way PB (again this is level 81 shifta and deband, highest S/D available) run on RA only (3x Ract, 1x ramar )


This must be unbeatable, because ract etc....o wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cqmdD7XiKc

damn son, two hucasts with lvl 41 shifta/deband ( 2way) pwning them racasts.

Don't bother arguing with a god like me, adios poor player[/SPOILER-BOX]


Everyone wants to be like me, the prettiest and most popular cheerleader in all of PSO-World High!

It's like I show up to school with a dildo one day and then the next day everyone is sporting it like the new fashion accessory.

Ohohohohohohoho!

Poor person can't even afford their own personalities!

Hello casual,

please stop pretending like a pre-existing being like me would imitate a poor person like you. I'm your father my son, I know about my creation. There is no need for denial.

Anyway, cheers anyway

[milranduil]

[SPOILER-BOX]



You did well poor player. Well in admitting how racast sucks. Let's take a look at the not updated Record list:

https://sites.google.com/site/psobbrecords/ultmode

[SPOILER-BOX]Maximum Attack 4th Stage -4C- (MA4C EP4)

1) 21:29 (remaining) mt79607 (HUct), 16085k (FOnm), Alukard (HUmr), 500ryu (HUct) 2013-09-15

2) 21:23 (remaining) Brandon (HUct), Joey (FOnm), iter (RAct), Dyne (HUct) 2012-09-24
[Video 1], [Video 2], [Video 3]

3) 21:00 (remaining) mt79607 (RAct), Revision (HUct), Alukard (HUmr), DGM (FOnl) 2012-08-13[/SPOILER-BOX]

seems like that casual racast run isn't even in the list. And that list isn't even updated, there is a unlisted run that is alot faster than those and has Fo+Hucast only :)[/spoiler-box]


You successfully linked me to runs that barely beat the RAcast run I linked to that is five years old by runs that are less than a year old. Obviously valid comparison

[Alfonquez]

You successfully linked me to runs that barely beat the RAcast run I linked to that is five years old by runs that are less than a year old. Obviously valid comparison

Ever heard of natural selection? Proving this with links from a more recent time supports my statement even further. RAcast proved to be alot slower than HUcast. Guess why the current ta'ers don't use racasts? Everyone of us has fully geared racasts. Everyone among us is aware that hucast is by far better. There is another reason why they didn't use hucast: Because they sucked at hunter. Ra is way easier to play and their high hit donation gear has a greater impact on ra than on hu.

I'll keep it short:

Multi-target dmg on ra is low and slow. Further more it increases the probability of damage cancel, because everyone hits the same fucking monster.

HUcast outdamages racast in multi target and single target. There is nothing that a hucast can't combo kill ( A hucast can kill anything in a combo besides Girtablulu. That requires level 81 S/D)

RAcast might have further range, but standing on a spot while killing isn't favourable when you have to move to the next room. HUcast is closer to the next room/spawn, also his attack animations move him forward.


I have nearly all PSOBB records, if you want to prove me wrong, beat me.

Edit: Adios again, poor player

Btw, idk what you are talking about. It's not barely, there is a 1 1/2 min difference in Ma4c pb ep4. No pb vs pb 20s difference is alot in ep2 lol. And two people beating 4 people with a lower shifta level by 20seconds is also alot lmao

[milranduil]

Ever heard of natural selection? Proving this with links from a more recent time supports my statement even further. RAcast proved to be alot slower than HUcast. Guess why the current ta'ers don't use racasts? Everyone of us has fully geared racasts. Everyone among us is aware that hucast is by far better. There is another reason why they didn't use hucast: Because they sucked at hunter. Ra is way easier to play and their high hit donation gear has a greater impact on ra than on hu.

I'll keep it short:

Multi-target dmg on ra is low and slow. Further more it increases the probability of damage cancel, because everyone hits the same fucking monster.

HUcast outdamages racast in multi target and single target. There is nothing that a hucast can't combo kill ( A hucast can kill anything in a combo besides Girtablulu. That requires level 81 S/D)

RAcast might have further range, but standing on a spot while killing isn't favourable when you have to move to the next room. HUcast is closer to the next room/spawn, also his attack animations move him forward.


I have nearly all PSOBB records, if you want to prove me wrong, beat me.

Edit: Adios again, poor player

Btw, idk what you are talking about. It's not barely, there is a 1 1/2 min difference in Ma4c pb ep4. No pb vs pb 20s difference is alot in ep2 lol. And two people beating 4 people with a lower shifta level by 20seconds is also alot lmao

1) At no point did I say RAcast is better, I just said it didn't suck.
2) I really couldn't care less. It's PSOBB and I've haven't played that for years for a reason.
3) Please, call me a poor person. Ask me the number of fucks I give. Oh, wait it's zero.

[Alfonquez]

you got quite defensive after I proved you wrong. You implied racast wouldn't suck, hopefully you're aware on how much racast sucks now :)

If you don't care, don't get involved in arguements. You clearly implied my statement on racasts was wrong by linking that stupid shit.

After being demonstrated this badly, you should ask a mod if he'd rename you into poor player.

Anyway, adios again again, poor player anyway

[BIG OLAF]

Hello casual,

please stop pretending like a pre-existing being like me would imitate a poor person like you. I'm your father my son, I know about my creation. There is no need for denial.

Anyway, cheers anyway

Oh, man. This is going to be good, I bet.

[Zipzo]

The mods honestly just need to start issuing bans for saying "poor people/players/anything else you could put here".

Likely more than two birds with one stone.

[btw-Niji]

The mods honestly just need to start issuing bans for saying "poor people/players/anything else you could put here".

Likely more than two birds with one stone.
Only a poor person would suggest this.

Are you upset because we speak the truth, poor person?

Poor people!

[Alfonquez]

The mods honestly just need to start issuing bans for saying "poor people/players/anything else you could put here".

Likely more than two birds with one stone.

Poor people throw with stones, I throw with money.

Damn poor people

[Zorafim]

The fuck is this guy, Arksenth's cousin?

I think I found him. (http://aresarcadia.esoarcadia.org/characters/images/thumbs/alfonso.jpg)

[Ratazana]

Only a poor person would suggest this.

Are you upset because we speak the truth, poor person?

Poor people!

He is so poor that he have to monetize the community for "their own good".

[Zipzo]

Poor people throw with stones, I throw with money.

Damn poor people

I guarantee you, I am not poor lol.

[gaijin_punch]

Love PSO. Where else can you find grown(?) men fighting about video games online.

[gaijin_punch]

Nice run, btw, Zipzo. Always felt like EPIV should have been PSO 1&2 plus.

[Alfonquez]

Love PSO. Where else can you find grown(?) men fighting about video games online.

Hardly a fight, more like a massacre. Poor people can't tell the difference(?)

[9898]

Ya, RAcasts sucks.
[spoiler-box]
lolk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAfv2WRi3qE)
[/spoiler-box]

Hi, I'm the best Ranger in PSO1 history. RAcast/RA is useless. HUcast is far and away the best character in the game, all versions. This supremacy only got more extreme with Blue Burst. You linked very low level gameplay by modern standards, if you want me to elaborate I can but I'm afraid the nuance of the game will fall on deaf ears if you're not able to grasp why the gameplay in this video is bad. I'll explain some basics I suppose:
CA instead of BL on enemies... Not enough damage, hits more targets so more DMC
Slow switches... All modern players have more accurate switches and don't "Grifter" (use CA) single enemies
Bad Planning... See modern runs

I could go on and on if you want, but those are just a few of the things.
Have a nice day, if you need more information just let me know buddy.

[BIG OLAF]

Hi, I'm the best Ranger in PSO1 history.

Oh, hello!

Seriously, what is going on around here recently?

[9898]

Oh, hello!

Seriously, what is going on around here recently?
Poor but I can't spare a Photon Shekle on you. Ask Psycho Beast.

[Alfonquez]

Poor but I can't spare a Photon Shekle on you. Ask Photon Beast.

fixed

[Arksenth]

Oh, hello!

Seriously, what is going on around here recently?

I think everyone is pretending to be me or something.

Please!

Get your own personalities, poor people!

[9898]

fixed

Thank you, I can't recall player's names that don't have records well.

[Alfonquez]

I think everyone is pretending to be me or something.

Please!

Get your own personalities, poor people!

Poor people think, a privileged being like me is all knowing. Essentially because I can form the truth with my money.

Damn poor beings

[9898]

Poor people think, a privileged being like me is all knowing. Essentially because I can form the truth with my money.

Damn poor beings

Check your privilege, he's running Voodoo2 SLI

[Alfonquez]

Check your privilege, he's running Voodoo2 SLI

Even my butler's butler runs 4 way TITAN SLI's.

[9898]

Even my butler's butler runs 4 way TITAN SLI's.

Yeah, I don't think these people know about Team "Sponsored by Nvidia" which landed us new rigs.
Between that and all of the PSO RMT I landed a pretty nice computer. Thanks for the memories, PSO1.

[Alfonquez]

Yeah, I don't think these people know about Team "Sponsored by Nvidia" which landed us new rigs.

Only poor people spend money on rigs.

[Rev+]

I am the first sponsored PSO player. :)

[BIG OLAF]

Oh, I see. It's one of those "lol let's all go make accounts and be annoying" groups of tools that show up every once in a while.

[9898]

Oh, I see. It's one of those "lol let's all go make accounts and be annoying" groups of tools that show up every once in a while.
Good thing I joined in 2011 and have a history of Quality Posting :-?

[Alfonquez]

Oh, I see. It's one of those "lol let's all go make accounts and be annoying" groups of tools that show up every once in a while.

Only poor people try analyzing and fail at it. Rich people like me are all knowing....and sponsored

[9898]

Only poor people try analyzing and fail at it. Rich people like me are all knowing....and sponsored

This. There's plenty of screenshots of the "Sponsored By Nvidia" team on PSO1.

[Zorafim]

I think everyone is pretending to be me or something.

Please!

Get your own personalities, poor people!

I have to admit, it can be fun portraying a caricature of a pointlessly elitist snob. It kinda doesn't work when everyone does it, though.
Poor people. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgpsFcNJqqk)