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pkemr4
Mar 31, 2014, 01:50 PM
which is better? im currently using a 500 GB HDD and pso2 takes a while to startup. was wondering if a SSD or SSD/HDD will give me better startup speed.

btw-Niji
Mar 31, 2014, 01:57 PM
Didn't you say that this started happening after you did some sort of driver uninstall?

If this slow startup wasn't happening since the beginning, changing your drive isn't going to do anything about it.

EDIT: CAN'T TYPE.

Nuclearranger
Mar 31, 2014, 01:57 PM
which is better? im currently using a 500 GB HDD and pso2 takes a while to startup. was wondering if a SSD or SSD/HDD will give me better startup speed.

A solid state drive would be faster than the 'Solid State Cache Drive'.

I have a few SSDs in my system and PSO2 updates and loads in about 1/10th the time. Loading between areas is almost non existent besides the connection time.

pkemr4
Mar 31, 2014, 02:00 PM
Didn't you say that this started happening after you did some sort of driver uninstall?

If this slow startup didn't happen at the beginning, changing your drive isn't going to do anything about it.

it occured after i did system restore to get back my lost drivers. then the issue started so someone told me to reinstall windows 7 and i did a clean reinstall (all partitions deleted). also reinstalled pso2 and then put the data folder back in and ran the tweaker to check for missing files.

musicmf
Mar 31, 2014, 02:00 PM
I went from a 7200RPM Western Digital Green drive to the Samsung 840 Evo drive.
Personally, I didn't notice any real speed increase in PSO2. (If it is there, it's too slight to tell for me)

It did dramatically increase boot speed of my PC, and launching applications like Photoshop though!

That's just my experience though, others may vary. *Shrug*

btw-Niji
Mar 31, 2014, 02:01 PM
Can you remember if it was this slow since the beginning?

Because this makes no sense at all if you did a COMPLETE OS reinstall.

Sizustar
Mar 31, 2014, 02:14 PM
You won't see much improvement in PSO2 in switching from HDD to SDD, unless you lower graphic setting and get faster internet.

pkemr4
Mar 31, 2014, 02:16 PM
Can you remember if it was this slow since the beginning?

Because this makes no sense at all if you did a COMPLETE OS reinstall.

i think it started after one of the gamegaurd updates because, after the gamegaurd image disappears my desktop just sits there for around 20-30 seconds then it black screens to pso2 also noticed the GG symbol appear in system tray for a split second.

9898
Mar 31, 2014, 02:47 PM
ssds in raid1 owns for load times in everything, i think this will solve your problems it solved mine esp for audio editing and video if u do that

Nitro Vordex
Mar 31, 2014, 04:15 PM
I have a 2TB HDD. Western Digital 7200 RPM. My game starts up pretty fast, but I more attribute that to it being a fairly decent machine build as well. Maybe check your RAM sticks or your processor? If you just did a clean reinstall, that sounds more like a hardware problem.

pkemr4
Mar 31, 2014, 04:35 PM
I have a 2TB HDD. Western Digital 7200 RPM. My game starts up pretty fast, but I more attribute that to it being a fairly decent machine build as well. Maybe check your RAM sticks or your processor? If you just did a clean reinstall, that sounds more like a hardware problem.

running 8 GB 800 mhz RAM

Aeris
Mar 31, 2014, 08:31 PM
running 8 GB 800 mhz RAM

There is your problem, is that DDR3 ram or DDR2 ram, if thats DDR3 then it got clocked down, you need to set it back to the standard speed it came with, you probably need to go into your BIOS or settings and set it back.

pkemr4
Mar 31, 2014, 08:41 PM
There is your problem, is that DDR3 ram or DDR2 ram, if thats DDR3 then it got clocked down, you need to set it back to the standard speed it came with, you probably need to go into your BIOS or settings and set it back.

its DDR3 also heres some info from speccy:

Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 11 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 11 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 11 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 28 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 39 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 45 %
Total Physical 8.00 GB
Available Physical 4.37 GB
Total Virtual 16 GB
Available Virtual 12 GB
SPD
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer A-Data Technology
Max Bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
Part Number
Week/year 41 / 13
JEDEC #7
Frequency 838.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 30
tRC 41
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 761.9 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 27
tRC 37
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 24
tRC 33
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 19
tRC 26
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 16
tRC 22
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 381.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
tRAS 14
tRC 19
Voltage 1.500 V
Slot #2
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer A-Data Technology
Max Bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
Part Number
Week/year 41 / 13
JEDEC #7
Frequency 838.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 30
tRC 41
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 761.9 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 27
tRC 37
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 24
tRC 33
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 19
tRC 26
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 16
tRC 22
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 381.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
tRAS 14
tRC 19
Voltage 1.500 V

Aeris
Mar 31, 2014, 09:28 PM
From the looks of the PC3-12800, that ram should be at 1600Mhz not 800Mhz, probably your reason why some of your programs load slower than normal.

BarbblerElf
Mar 31, 2014, 09:42 PM
It is running at 1600.
DRAM Frequency 800.0 MHz
800MHz*2=1600
Double Data Rate Ram

pkemr4
Mar 31, 2014, 09:47 PM
full pc specs: Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD FX-4300 176 °C
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) (MS-7641) (CPU1)
Graphics
HL161ABB (1366x768@60Hz)
2048MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series (MSI) 50 °C
Storage
465GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA050 SCSI Disk Device (SATA) 35 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0 ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

GG likes to fuck with the tempratures

HeartBreak301
Mar 31, 2014, 09:48 PM
Having installed PSO2 to both a HDD and SSD I can say that it really doesn't affect this game in any noticeable way.



CPU
AMD FX-4300 176 °C


Also I really hope that's a typo because that's about 350 degrees Fahrenheit.

Aeris
Mar 31, 2014, 09:53 PM
It is running at 1600.
DRAM Frequency 800.0 MHz
800MHz*2=1600
Double Data Rate Ram

Each ram stick memory module should be running separately at 1600Mhz, not added together for that speed btw.


full pc specs: Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD FX-4300 176 °C
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) (MS-7641) (CPU1)
Graphics
HL161ABB (1366x768@60Hz)
2048MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series (MSI) 50 °C
Storage
465GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA050 SCSI Disk Device (SATA) 35 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0 ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

GG likes to fuck with the tempratures

Yeah GG does that.

BarbblerElf
Mar 31, 2014, 10:22 PM
Each ram stick memory module should be running separately at 1600Mhz, not added together for that speed btw.





I wasn't adding the sticks together. It's DDR Ram so it should be performing 2 processes per cycle, giving you 1600Mhz effectively.

9898
Mar 31, 2014, 10:39 PM
I wasn't adding the sticks together. It's DDR Ram so it should be performing 2 processes per cycle, giving you 1600Mhz effectively.

this. ddr ram is on the up and downclock. no ram actually runs at 1600mhz base clock at the moment.

pkemr4
Apr 1, 2014, 07:42 AM
in bios it said cores disabled. was it a good idea to enable them?

Sizustar
Apr 1, 2014, 08:08 AM
in bios it said cores disabled. was it a good idea to enable them?

For PC specific question, you'll have better luck at dedicated forum such as Tom'shardware, guru3d and overclock.net

TaigaUC
Apr 1, 2014, 08:20 AM
I avoided slapping PSO2 on my SSD because the game updates often and the files can be pretty large, so I figured it'd wear out my SSD quickly.

My first time using an SSD, so I don't really know how quickly they wear out.
I'm just being "better safe than sorry".

Sizustar
Apr 1, 2014, 08:36 AM
I avoided slapping PSO2 on my SSD because the game updates often and the files can be pretty large, so I figured it'd wear out my SSD quickly.

My first time using an SSD, so I don't really know how quickly they wear out.
I'm just being "better safe than sorry".

Don't worry about, various site have tested it by overwriting it none-stop, and it's 10+ year usage.

TaigaUC
Apr 1, 2014, 08:39 AM
Thanks.
I don't remember ever seeing anyone say it was that long when I researched it over a year ago.

Been thinking of moving more apps to the SSD because I hate how long they take to load (Maya).

Sizustar
Apr 1, 2014, 09:32 AM
Thanks.
I don't remember ever seeing anyone say it was that long when I researched it over a year ago.

Been thinking of moving more apps to the SSD because I hate how long they take to load (Maya).

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4178/10/hardwareinfo-tests-lifespan-of-samsung-ssd-840-250gb-tlc-ssd-updated-with-final-conclusion-final-update-20-6-2013

Here is one torture test, their conclusion is 75 years.

TaigaUC
Apr 1, 2014, 09:43 AM
That's the drive I have. Thanks for the link.