To players who are in the SEA area

[kyojin]

Can anyone verify if you guys can still log in to JP pso?
me and my friend cant seem to log in after the maintenance.
and if you guys cant log in can you kindly post what country are you located.
(i really hope this is just a server issue not an ip ban) *paranoid*
"Error 249"
Ok SEA is banned, here a link to AIDA's quick vpn guide
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219610

[Rehal]

SEA here, can't login
IP banned . _.b

[Cyrie]

Cant login too, also from SEA :/

[Zorua]

Oh geeze, if SEGA's blocking SEA players from JP, that means they'll try to pull that if lol it won't happen an NA release ever comes out.

[WildarmsRE5]

uh, maint guys?

[Cyrie]

maint has been over for around 55 minutes now

[UMVC3_Wolverine]

USA is next!

[Exiled_Gundam]

Can't connect as well. Anyone outside of SEA region can?

[CrowCakes]

Servers still display as under maintenance for me.

[Rien]

I'm in SEA region, it's working fine.

[blace]

Can't connect as well. Anyone outside of SEA region can?

All is well on my end from central US.

I can't seem to find anything on the site stating any kind of IP blocking, other than the China block.

[Cyrie]

I tried a Japanese / USA Ip and I can get in, SEA ip nope lol.

[WildarmsRE5]

I live in the Philippines, Maint should be done in 4 pm in my timezone. if not, longer than for, so maybe 5 pm.

edit: servers are up, like 3 mins ago.

[blace]

I live in the Philippines, Maint should be done in 4 pm in my timezone. if not, longer than for, so maybe 5 pm.

Maintenance is long over.

[Xayu]

I'm in SEA region, it's working fine.

If it's okay to ask, which part of SEA are you from? Maybe it's not part of the SEA regions that Asiasoft is under service in.

I'm from SEA too, and it won't work for me without using VPN.

[Exiled_Gundam]

I'm from Malaysia

[Cyrie]

Asiasoft services:
Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and the Philippines
and all of my friends from these countries cannot login.
:(

[kyojin]

@WildarmsRE5
its already up an hour ago
was able to login using a JP vpn
gg SEA players
(i still hope this is just a mistake)

[Chik'Tikka]

What error code are you getting when you enter your username/password in the log in?+^_^+
If your getting any kinda of error 800-816 your account may have been banned...

Errors 224, 230, 231, 240, 241 and 249 mean you couldn't connect at all in the 1st place. I'd imagine it's one of these errors the client would use in the event of IP ban...

It's also quite early after maint and the servers may be be flooded by large numbers of people logging in, causing some lag. I'd wait another few hours and try again before coming to the conclusion of IP bans+^_^+

Anyway, as of this post servers for JP PSO2 are indeed up and running+^_^+

EDIT: i been ninjad like 13 times cause i took 12 minutes to compose this post, bed time for me!

[Cyrie]

We're all getting 249 I believe.
But if we use Japanese / US vpns we can get in. sooo yeah D:

[blace]

What error code are you getting when you enter your username/password in the log in?+^_^+
If your getting any kinda of error 800-816 your account may have been banned...

Errors 224, 230, 231, 240, 241 and 249 mean you couldn't connect at all in the 1st place. I'd imagine it's one of these errors the client would use in the event of IP ban...

It's also quite early after maint and the servers may be be flooded by large numbers of people logging in, causing some lag. I'd wait another few hours and try again before coming to the conclusion of IP bans+^_^+

Anyway, as of this post servers for JP PSO2 are indeed up and running+^_^+

The general consensus over on bumped is error no. 249, not being able to connect to servers. If I recall, logging in from a Chinese IP gives the same error number.

Might be a coincidence that it's not allowing a certain region in since the recent maintenance, but who is to say it's something that was intended without SEGA acknowledging the block.

[Infinity Series]

yay i cant log in now

@Chik'Tikka : not getting any error codes, the ships are simply 'offline'

[WildarmsRE5]

^ me too, gonna try logging on those "Offline" ships now.

EDIT: got 249-ed.

Asiasoft can go fukk themselves, I ain't playing their godawful font and terminology abomination of a game called PSO2 SEA.

Asiasoft PSO2 can go rot away like PSU.

[Courina]

prolly asiasoft requesting it due lot negative respond about their server.

[Takatsuki]

Pleeeeease never release PSO2 in the west, Sega!

[Rehal]

KR VPN works for me . _.
Going to fiddle around first

[EvilMag]

prolly asiasoft requesting it due lot negative respond about their server.

Most likely that since Taiwan isn't block yet they're version of the game is live afaik.

[Takatsuki]

Also, if Sega plans on IP banning the rest of us non-JPers, I hope they realize something.

We are NOT going to play the shitty outdated English version if/when it comes out.

We would all sooner not play at all than play that crap.

[Xayu]

Like many others mentioned already, using VPN of a country that isn't covered in Asiasoft services will let you in without problems.

I can log-in just fine if I use a Japanese IP, but it kicks me out whenever I turn it off and use my real (SEA) IP.

[blace]

Also, if Sega plans on IP banning the rest of us non-JPers, I hope they realize something.

We are NOT going to play the shitty outdated English version if/when it comes out.

We would all sooner not play at all than play that crap.

Yet there are many asking about the English version on a regular basis...

[Tomo-Kinji]

I'm from SEA, and I confirm that I can't login atm. So they start this a day before, eh? (=w=)

[Rien]

If it's okay to ask, which part of SEA are you from? Maybe it's not part of the SEA regions that Asiasoft is under service in.

I'm from SEA too, and it won't work for me without using VPN.

Singapore.

A friend from the US is getting error 105 from the launcher.

[Takatsuki]

Yet there are many asking about the English version on a regular basis...

Only stupid, stubborn people who don't realize how horrible it will be.

[Exiled_Gundam]

I'm from SEA, and I confirm that I can't login atm. So they start this a day before, eh? (=w=)
Ths morning I still can login just before the maintenance started

[UMVC3_Wolverine]

Also, if Sega plans on IP banning the rest of us non-JPers, I hope they realize something.

We are NOT going to play the shitty outdated English version if/when it comes out.

We would all sooner not play at all than play that crap.

I wouldn't be so sure. Though i'm with you 100% on this. Most players here are slaves to sega. They will play the shiity 3 years behind version.

They will also complain like little girls about how much they "hate" it but will still log in daily.

There's some people here who "hate" the JP one already yet they sit around all night waiting for maint to be over LMAO.

I don't even need to call you out either, you know who you are :)

[blace]

Only stupid, stubborn people who don't realize how horrible it will be.

That would be a large number of people waiting on it, not including the several hundreds to thousands of players on the JP servers.

[WildarmsRE5]

okay, can someone now and go make a topic about changing IPs for those who don't know?

If not. . . well I guess I'll just let Google handle stuff and do things myself. . .

[Courina]

Like many others mentioned already, using VPN of a country that isn't covered in Asiasoft services will let you in without problems.

I can log-in just fine if I use a Japanese IP, but it kicks me out whenever I turn it off and use my real (SEA) IP.

some ppl gonna need tutorial how-to now seems

[Infinity Series]

okay, can someone now and go make a topic about changing IPs for those who don't know?

If not. . . well I guess I'll just let Google handle stuff and do things myself. . .

http://www.softether-download.com/

download the 'client'

[Agastya]

"step by step guide on how to evade ip bans!" yeah im sure thats going to go over well here

[Shinamori]

That sounds like something that shouldn't be talked about here.

[oratank]

after joy of td mech now ip ban. good job sega

[Tomo-Kinji]

Doing it now... wow, I'm really caught off guard here ^^; FUUU SEGA! :@

[FOnewearl-Lina]

YOU BAN!

[plasism]

Welp, Singaporean here, also can't log in... oh well...

[Tomo-Kinji]

And thus, the SEA Apocalypse happens! May vpn gods saves us :D (Also, picture is slightly unrelated)

[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.wallshq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/7Tl8XlaY.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[landman]

If the game is ever released in the west, I see many people against VPNs.... using VPNs.

[btw-Niji]

shit!!!

lost a very good player on my lane for TD 1 and 2 because of this IP ban!

RIP 5 run =/

[THRINE4]

Wow, really unhappy with this. At least give us a choice to decide which server we want to play. And/or notify us before you pull this bullshit. Malaysia, myself and my friends all affected. Even the majority of my team are affected. Solved it with VPN.

If they really do resort to this, and have no plans to reverse this, I guess we'll have to stick to VPNs. Asking me to play PSO2SEA might probably be fine, I might be able to tolerate most of their errors as long as the core gameplay isn't affected. That's only if they actually can import the account over, they catch up with PSO2JP soon, and make sure that contents and collaboration stuff are consistent with PSO2JP (if that happens, I'm fine with 1 week slower updates).

But, I won't count on that happening, so no way.

[WildarmsRE5]

uuuuuuhhhhhh *droooooooools*

downloaded that SoftEther thing and opened it. . .
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/24441540.jpg

[THRINE4]

uuuuuuhhhhhh *droooooooools*

downloaded that SoftEther thing and opened it. . .
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/24441540.jpg

Google search a guide, a simple tutorial should be on the 1st page itself. You might need to download a SoftEther VPN Gate extension. I remembered my laptop didn't need the extension, but my PC did when I just downloaded it earlier.

[blkbox11]

Bought the Deluxe Package yesterday, had it shipped here today and just found out about the IP ban.

Welp. That was a waste of money. But see, SEGA, I would have continued to support you had you not done this.

[Sizustar]

Haven't seen any message from Sega regarding IP ban, have you guys contacted Asiasoft, and see what they say?

[blkbox11]

Haven't seen any message from Sega regarding IP ban, have you guys contacted Asiasoft, and see what they say?

It's likely that neither party will admit to anything. Asiasoft's lack of transparency on the matter was evident since it started promoting PSO2SEA, and SEGA will probably just bring up their TOS.

[UMVC3_Wolverine]

Wow, really unhappy with this. At least give us a choice to decide which server we want to play. And/or notify us before you pull this bullshit. Malaysia, myself and my friends all affected. Even the majority of my team are affected. Solved it with VPN.

If they really do resort to this, and have no plans to reverse this, I guess we'll have to stick to VPNs. Asking me to play PSO2SEA might probably be fine, I might be able to tolerate most of their errors as long as the core gameplay isn't affected. That's only if they actually can import the account over, they catch up with PSO2JP soon, and make sure that contents and collaboration stuff are consistent with PSO2JP (if that happens, I'm fine with 1 week slower updates).

But, I won't count on that happening, so no way.

You weren't supposed to be on the JP servers to begin with and you're demanding that sega should NOTIFY you? Are you stupid?

[Sizustar]

It's likely that neither party will admit to anything. Asiasoft's lack of transparency on the matter was evident since it started promoting PSO2SEA, and SEGA will probably just bring up their TOS.

Well, you can still try and contact and see if they respond.
Doesn't Sea PSO2 have a facebook page?

Since, Gamania, when they do IP block, they will admit to it.

[THRINE4]

You weren't supposed to be on the JP servers to begin with and you're demanding that sega should NOTIFY you? Are you stupid?

Just the same in any situation that they ban anyone and inform why they did so? What's so hard about informing?

[undead098]

all i want to say is...

http://puu.sh/94Aqn/d163b686a8.jpg

[blkbox11]

Well, you can still try and contact and see if they respond.
Doesn't Sea PSO2 have a facebook page?

Since, Gamania, when they do IP block, they will admit to it.

I was one of the people who tried asking Asiasoft's CMs about the possibility of an IP ban early on, and if they could inform us ahead of time. They kept claiming that they don't know anything about it and would get back to me on that. When I tried again, they told me to contact SEGA JP - of course, I wasn't dumb enough to do that.

Anyway, Asiasoft knows better than to admit that the terms of their contract include the ban of SEA players from the JP server. This will just make the SEA players who were in the JP servers NOT want to play their version of the game.

[Ouranos]

I got error 249 and couldn't log in.

It was a good free to play online portable game while it lasted on my end. Almost got 4k hours of gameplay, no regrets and no money spent.

Good game SEGA.

[Sizustar]

I was one of the people who tried asking Asiasoft's CMs about the possibility of an IP ban early on, and if they could inform us ahead of time. They kept claiming that they don't know anything about it and would get back to me on that. When I tried again, they told me to contact SEGA JP - of course, I wasn't dumb enough to do that.

Anyway, Asiasoft knows better than to admit that the terms of their contract include the ban of SEA players from the JP server. This will just make the SEA players NOT want to play their version of the game.

So I guess Taiwan player should be happy that Gamania is too cheap to pay Sega to do the IP ban?

[xervah]

seem to be offline on me... or is THIS the end? :o
im from SEA btw...
[SPOILER-BOX]https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10417582_811449002198911_4322781682869544525_n.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[blkbox11]

So I guess Taiwan player should be happy that Gamania is too cheap to pay Sega to do the IP ban?

Is Gamania's version actually up already?

If it isn't, then the ban might not be in place yet. It'll start when the servers actually open to the public, not during Closed Beta.

[undead098]

I was one of the people who tried asking Asiasoft's CMs about the possibility of an IP ban early on, and if they could inform us ahead of time. They kept claiming that they don't know anything about it and would get back to me on that. When I tried again, they told me to contact SEGA JP - of course, I wasn't dumb enough to do that.

Anyway, Asiasoft knows better than to admit that the terms of their contract include the ban of SEA players from the JP server. This will just make the SEA players NOT want to play their version of the game.

i had worked with them as CM before... and they never tell us CM practically anything.
and any complaint we forward... no response back. (so whose fault is this)
CM is just for "where complaints end"

so i quit.

be good with the CM... they truly didn't know anything... i feel sorry for them.

back to topic...
so what are sea player here going to do about this ipban.......
for me... back to skyrim (again)

[RandomKai]

SEA player here. Like many others, I'm unable to login to the JP version.

However, using the link that Infinity Series provided, I'm now able to login to the game. Infact, I feel that my connection is even more stable @_@

I highly recommend every SEA player who is unable to login in to give SoftEther a go. =D

[Sizustar]

Is Gamania's version actually up already?

If it isn't, then the ban might not be in place yet. It'll start when the servers actually open to the public, not during Closed Beta.

It's already active since the beginning of May. OB only lasted a week, from 4/24, and Full release in May.
And they've already done collab with Pepsi Cola, in which you buy specially marked bottle of Pepsi, and get code in the cap.
https://tw.event.beanfun.com/PSO2Event/E20140425/index.aspx

[blkbox11]

It's already active since the beginning of May. OB only lasted a week, from 4/24, and Full release in May.
And they've already done collab with Pepsi Cola, in which you buy specially marked bottle of Pepsi, and get code in the cap.
https://tw.event.beanfun.com/PSO2Event/E20140425/index.aspx

Yeah, it's likely because an IP block of Taiwan wasn't in the terms of Gamania's contract with SEGA.

Asiasoft on the other hand, knows that they need to implement this to stop people from running to JP.

I just made a gigantic mistake of being optimistic about it.


i had worked with them as CM before... and they never tell us CM practically anything.
and any complaint we forward... no response back. (so whose fault is this)
CM is just for "where complaints end"

so i quit.

be good with the CM... they truly didn't know anything... i feel sorry for them.

back to topic...
so what are sea player here going to do about this ipban.......
for me... back to skyrim (again)

Yeah, I wasn't trying to make it sound like the CMs are exclusively at fault. It's just that this is how the business normally works for companies like Asiasoft. One way or another, they won't admit to things that make them look bad.

Anyway, time to bring out the PS3 again. If I can recoup my loss from the Deluxe Package, I'll just get Watch Dogs when I can.

[Taurus83]

is it me or other people, server seem to be offline

[hoangsea]

i'm sure it's an IP ban

there will be complain to the JP 's forum
and i will waitting if there are any changes later

or if the ip ban still continue i just quit because playing an non-target with high ping due of fake IP ?
hell no!

[wefwq]

Holy shit, this entire SEA ban makes me real mad.
FUCK YOU ASIASHITSOFT for ruining SEA player fun.

[Coreven]

In the end, the blame is on SEGA for agreeing with it doe.

[Tomo-Kinji]

seem to be offline on me... or is THIS the end? :o
im from SEA btw...
[SPOILER-BOX]https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10417582_811449002198911_4322781682869544525_n.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

yup. This is the end. Farewell everyone :lol:
Hoping for NA IP ban as well :lol: 2 IP bans is better than one :lol:

[wefwq]

yup. This is the end. Farewell everyone :lol:
Hoping for NA IP ban as well :lol: 2 IP bans is better than one :lol:
NA is safe because NA version never.

[btw-Niji]

who wants to organize a riot? I'm not SEA, but I'm equally as pissed as all of you.

[Crystal_Shard]

SEA here too. How kind of Sega to drop us players like a rock. /sarcasm

Time to try finding a router level VPN as well as a PC based one, otherwise I'll be stuck without my Vita or PSO2es access.

[undead098]

who wants to organize a riot? I'm not SEA, but I'm equally as pissed as all of you.

i'm with you... but where

[Kikikiki]

Damn, now I feel bad for some of my SEA teammates. I'll just hope that they can get around this problem because playing with them is fun.

[Cyrie]

Need guinea pigs testers for this method to get around the IP ban: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3141768&posted=1#post3141768

Ive been using that method even before you made the guide. Works like a charm.
No lag whatsoever as well :3

So anyone who wants to play normally just follow AIDA's guide and you can login again like nothing ever happened~

[jooozek]

why is there rage? the ToS states clearly since more than a year that connections from outside japan aren't allowed :lol:

[infiniteeverlasting]

OH PLEEZZZ SEGA
BE AS INCOMPETENT AS YOU CAN AND CANCEL ENG RELEASE!!!!
But then they'll probably ip ban us anyway...

[Xayu]

Need guinea pigs testers for this method to get around the IP ban: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3141768&posted=1#post3141768

Yes, this is the VPN I use, and it works really well. I wanted to wait for confirmation if this is okay to mention around the forums, but I'm glad to know that it's perfectly fine!

[Rien]

I log in as usual, and I live in Singapore as mentioned earlier.

Everyone I know around me is IP banned

?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??

[NexusAZ]

I log in as usual, and I live in Singapore as mentioned earlier.

Everyone I know around me is IP banned

?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??

You are the chosen one.

[Rehal]

I log in as usual, and I live in Singapore as mentioned earlier.

Everyone I know around me is IP banned

?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??

Your ISP have a built in VPN _(:3」∠)_

[Sizustar]

I log in as usual, and I live in Singapore as mentioned earlier.

Everyone I know around me is IP banned

?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??

Maybe list which ISP?

[seilent]

This should explains why some SG isp can connect still (sorry had to hide the IP) xD
http://s28.postimg.org/k8ohgxq3x/image.png'

the connection seems routed to UK..

[EvilMag]

Has anyone tested if you could still connect through the vita version? Worth a shot I suppose.

[Xayu]

This should explains why some SG isp can connect still (sorry had to hide the IP) xD
http://s28.postimg.org/k8ohgxq3x/image.png'

the connection seems routed to UK..

... Wow, that's awesome. Please share your glorious ISP. ;_;

[blkbox11]

Has anyone tested if you could still connect through the vita version? Worth a shot I suppose.

I have a Vita and can confirm it doesn't work.

Someone has a screenshot on /vg/ up as well.

There's no way to distinguish between a Vita and a PC IP address, so they just blocked everything.

[Vampy]

That really sucks. I doubt sega is entirely at fault if they cared enough they would have done it long ago, but they are at fault for doing business with such a shady company keeping players in the dark that they planned to have sega implement IP bans. And those who say say it's in the ToS that people from other countries can't connect. This would not have been an issue is dumbfucks didn't start messing with the game at release and moving npc's around. Sega just added it silence the community

[ArataWata]

While I'm certain Sega is obviously to blame for this, I'm willing to bet Asiasoft has a big role in this, considering the SEA version is also IP restricted.

[blkbox11]

Someone mentioned just a few pages ago that Taiwan isn't IP blocked from the JP version of the game.

This is just part of Asiasoft's business contract with SEGA.

[seilent]

... Wow, that's awesome. Please share your glorious ISP. ;_;

[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.speedtest.net/result/3528058694.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
dont mind the speed, but it shows the parent isp :D
oh well maybe sega just forgot to add the ip list then block this one also later

[Rien]

using Starhub for my ISP here.

[THRINE4]

http://s23.postimg.org/9bvppu0wr/lulz.png

Found this on Bumped. Perhaps there's one good thing about this incident though?

(Just for laughs if anyone is offended)

[Meteor Weapon]

You do know that not most of B20's are from SEA, well not that I know where most of them came from. I dont even play at ship2 so...whatever.

[THRINE4]

You do know that not most of B20's are from SEA, well not that I know where most of them came from. I dont even play at ship2 so...whatever.

The guy did say that it's slightly emptier than usual, not completely.

[Zenobia]

using Starhub for my ISP here.

Time for you to carry on the legacy.

[DestinyWings]

Any chance that this IP ban is temperory?

[final_attack]

Not sure ...... But, I do wonder what happened for players from SEA region that bought the game physically (for PS Vita .... especially when they already saved up money to buy the game, waiting for it to come, and only find IP block ._. Well, the physical game is available from amiami for international users, right?) .... If they unblock it for Vita, I might go for Vita one (though it will be insanely hard to play -.-)

[btw-Niji]

http://s23.postimg.org/9bvppu0wr/lulz.png

Found this on Bumped. Perhaps there's one good thing about this incident though?

(Just for laughs if anyone is offended)
lol well, B20 is still gonna be a garbage block.. sooooo yeah....

[oratank]

AS said it SEGA contact business not their fault. SEGA also told AS to jp block not allow jp go to play sea too.AS said it's SEGA standard business plan. not AS ask SEGA for ip block at all.

well TAIWAN didn't use SEGA standard business contact? i don't buy this for a dollar

[Crystal_Shard]

I don't buy that Asiasoft didn't ask for the ban either. Sounds more like a quid pro quo backroom deal.

I hope Asiasoft loses all their money from the whole venture, that's all I can say. Bunch of embarrassments.

[DestinyWings]

Where did Asiasoft said that? Sounds BS to me. The SEA version blocks all non-SEA ips so JP are already blocked.

[Gardios]

Asiasoft always blames the other party. No doubt that they actually requested the IP ban, that's what they usually do.

[blkbox11]

Not sure ...... But, I do wonder what happened for players from SEA region that bought the game physically (for PS Vita .... especially when they already saved up money to buy the game, waiting for it to come, and only find IP block ._. Well, the physical game is available from amiami for international users, right?) .... If they unblock it for Vita, I might go for Vita one (though it will be insanely hard to play -.-)

Haha, I am one of these people.

I do agree that they should have blocked international sales of the retail version if they planned to IP block the region, but I also don't think there's a way for them to set apart a Vita's IP address from a PC's IP address. This means they have to blanket-block everyone based on whatever deal it was that they made.

Also, what this does do is add suspicion to Asiasoft's claims that SEGA was the one that wanted the IP block. I highly doubt it was SEGA when Taiwan has no problems accessing PSO2JP.

[Vampy]

Haha, I am one of these people.

I do agree that they should have blocked international sales of the retail version if they planned to IP block the region, but I also don't think there's a way for them to set apart a Vita's IP address from a PC's IP address. This means they have to blanket-block everyone based on whatever deal it was that they made.

Also, what this does do is add suspicion to Asiasoft's claims that SEGA was the one that wanted the IP block. I highly doubt it was SEGA when Taiwan has no problems accessing PSO2JP.

I think most intelligent people deduced this already. Sega has no reason to ip ban other regions a lot of people rather play a more up to date version of the game than wait 2 years to access our content. Sega wants all the money they can get and alienating other regions hurts on that department.

[Infinity Series]

Any chance that this IP ban is temperory?

most likely ... nope

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10424335_776162415742214_2954546395681703972_n.jpg

i wonder why they only ban us now

lol

----

any official announcement from sega?

[Daiyousei]

This should explains why some SG isp can connect still (sorry had to hide the IP) xD
http://s28.postimg.org/k8ohgxq3x/image.png'

the connection seems routed to UK..

I live in New York but my IP says I'm in Connecticut, a state over. But wow UK IP lol.

[Scarlet.Haze]

I'm on Singapore, my IP is singapore, and I didn't get blocked.

Using My Republic btw.

[Jazneo]

they only block SEA country


NA,EU, Canadian not getting block

[Shinamori]

It's funny how everyone was mocking the IP ban doomsday sayers.

[zelda3d]

Hey Scarlet.Haze, my fellow MRer!!

I can login too! And my SingNet fren is unable to login :(

[DestinyWings]

most likely ... nope

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10424335_776162415742214_2954546395681703972_n.jpg

i wonder why they only ban us now

lol

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any official announcement from sega?

I know... Just thinking maybe they just ban for the first week to get people play the SEA and then unban...

[AkumaYouji]

US region, just logged in fine as well. Maybe they extended the maintenance?

[Arkanoid]

Sooo NA players... who still wants to see an NA version of PSO2 after this? xD

[AkumaYouji]

Sooo NA players... who still wants to see an NA version of PSO2 after this? xD

not me, quite frankly i didn't care for a US release after the almighty English patch...

[vbetts]

Just the same in any situation that they ban anyone and inform why they did so? What's so hard about informing?

If what said in an earlier post is true,

why is there rage? the ToS states clearly since more than a year that connections from outside japan aren't allowed

Then that's the reason why, and also them informing you. That right there is how they inform you.

[DestinyWings]

If what said in an earlier post is true,


Then that's the reason why, and also them informing you. That right there is how they inform you.

But they took people's money, sold their Vita game worldwide. They can't do that then hide behind the ToS when they do things like that.

[Gardios]

Just because you can import the VITA game doesn't mean they're actually selling it worldwide. They're not.

[jooozek]

http://bumped.org/psublog/sakai-addresses-the-tos-change-and-future-updates/

[Lashette]

But they took people's money, sold their Vita game worldwide. They can't do that then hide behind the ToS when they do things like that.

If you bought AC through a Third Party company, like Sutocorp, or CN-USA, and such, they don't care about Sega's ToS. Same goes For buying the game from any seller, and not directly from SoJ. Sega sold the game to a market in JP, then the markets in JP sold them internationally.

[vbetts]

But they took people's money, sold their Vita game worldwide. They can't do that then hide behind the ToS when they do things like that.

1. Sega did not sell it, retailers sold it.

2. Even if Sega did sell it, it's still in the ToS. Meaning you bought it for collection/trade purposes. Also I believe sites like Playasia and Amazon warn you of situations like this.

[Courina]

a friend telling me there's supposed agreement with sony that they cant touch psn network , supposed vita user still could connect, right?

[DestinyWings]

a friend telling me there's supposed agreement with sony that they cant touch psn network , supposed vita user still could connect, right?

No, I use a Vita and I can't.

[Coreven]

Well, they're not touching PSN, they just blanket banned SEA region IPs.

[wefwq]

a friend telling me there's supposed agreement with sony that they cant touch psn network , supposed vita user still could connect, right?
They technically didn't do anything to PSN, they tinkering their own server and is not SONY thing.
They also already have every rights to ban outsiders from their server ever since ToS changes.

[Jazneo]

No, I use a Vita and I can't.

i think there was to make ps vita use vpn if you have setup on your network

[Shadowth117]

They also already have every rights to ban outsiders from their server ever since ToS changes.

That doesn't mean they don't look like douchebags in doing so.

[Coreven]

Yes, but sadly that is completely irrelevant.

[TheszNuts]

But they took people's money, sold their Vita game worldwide. They can't do that then hide behind the ToS when they do things like that.

They can, I used to seen this scenario all too often when i used to be ambassador for M$. THey don't have to give advance notice as long as that clause exists.

[Sp-24]

Why do people who have been clicking "I agree" every time Sega told them that they are not allowed to play from outside of Japan, that breaking the ToS may result in a ban, that Sega may terminate their service without any notice, and that Sega is not to be held liable for just about anything now pretend that they have an actual legal case against SoJ here?

[Jazneo]

TOS only use the protect sega in case they got sent to court

[oratank]

As will talk to SEGA about vita issues tomorrow nothing they said they want to help out this vita situation but they have no idea about VITA.

form As thai

[Shadowth117]

Why do people who have been clicking "I agree" every time Sega told them that they are not allowed to play from outside of Japan, that breaking the ToS may result in a ban, that Sega may terminate their service without any notice, and that Sega is not to be held liable for just about anything now pretend that they have an actual legal case against SoJ here?

Well they've kind of pushed people into a corner due to the availability issue of their product. They've only been selectively enforcing their rulings, which as you say are under their direct control. Legally, there's nothing wrong with it.

Regardless, its still a shitty way to treat loyal fans who really don't have any other options to play a proper version of the game. You could argue they do now, but switching not only kills their progress, but also puts them in an arguably inferior version of what they had played up til now.

Its all within their rights, I'd never argue against that. Its just that it also leaves them with a fanbase that hates them and is probably a lot less likely to invest time into their products later on down the line.

[GHNeko]

Exactly.

Something being legal doesn't mean it cant and wont be counterproductive and ultimately harmful to a userbase and thusly potential growth.

Of course, SoJ / SegaSammy is ruled internally by politics and business is what has an iron grip on them right now. It's kinda why SoA/NA is getting shafted most of the time, despite Sega profitability shooting upwards in arcades and digital sales.

Wanna do something about it? Invest in stock and vote during share-holder meetings lmao. Because unless you spur sales in various franchises enough for Sega to pull a SE and realize we actually matter as much as Japan, they're not changing shit.