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Dark Emerald EXE
Aug 3, 2014, 07:13 PM
I'm sure it could be done (somewhat) but unsure where to go with it.....

Kind of thinking of idea if I where to make another char.



http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_985.jpg
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_597.jpg
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_1250.jpg

Daiyousei
Aug 3, 2014, 07:22 PM
Given enough time and effort, I'd say you can make anyone really.

I remember someone on 2ch made Obama.

Kondibon
Aug 3, 2014, 07:30 PM
Given enough time and effort, I'd say you can make anyone really.

I remember someone on 2ch made Obama.I need to see this.

Dragon_Knight
Aug 3, 2014, 07:30 PM
As they are, no. If you are willing to settle on aspects...yes.

If you desire the skin color more, go with dewmans that's the race that could get closest to the shade. If you want elf ears you will need to go newman but lose the skin color.

The eyes are possible since there are one or two blank/empty eyes floating about.

Hair styles, there are close matches with the second picture being closer to a hair style that was released in the most recent AC scratch, though you would need to by the appropriate Ahoege to finish that hair style, and you will have to have one hair color rather than two.

Otherwise the face and body styles should be easy enough to make and all with in the realm of possibility.

Over all, yes but you won't get them to look like that off the bat and you will need to get a lot of meseta to make them fully realized.

edit: Also the accessories are available for the second and third, but the first doesn't have many options for similar things, maybe units but they won't match colors.

*clicks and saves pictures*

jackfrosty
Aug 3, 2014, 07:35 PM
is this an android/iphone game? made me curious

Dark Emerald EXE
Aug 3, 2014, 07:37 PM
As they are, no. If you are willing to settle on aspects...yes.

If you desire the skin color more, go with dewmans that's the race that could get closest to the shade. If you want elf ears you will need to go newman but lose the skin color.

The eyes are possible since there are one or two blank/empty eyes floating about.

Hair styles, there are close matches with the second picture being closer to a hair style that was released in the most recent AC scratch, though you would need to by the appropriate Ahoege to finish that hair style, and you will have to have one hair color rather than two.

Otherwise the face and body styles should be easy enough to make and all with in the realm of possibility.

Over all, yes but you won't get them to look like that off the bat and you will need to get a lot of meseta to make them fully realized.

edit: Also the accessories are available for the second and third, but the first doesn't have many options for similar things, maybe units but they won't match colors.

*clicks and saves pictures*

Yes I knew it wouldnt be exactly the same bu as close as pso2 possible :P

Thanks for the advise.

It's a project really if meseta is able....

Edit: Between the 3 I like the 2nd more design wise but figured would have more options....There's 2 others but didn't like them enough to make them again. There's many females in that game id conider making but the hera sisters came to mind 1st.


http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_1189.jpg
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_599.jpg

Dark Emerald EXE
Aug 3, 2014, 07:43 PM
is this an android/iphone game? made me curious


Yes. It's called Puzzle & Dragons.

Imagine Pokemon Meets Bejeweled and its that....and the artwork for monsters is amazing! well imo

Dragon_Knight
Aug 3, 2014, 07:48 PM
Yes I knew it wouldnt be exactly the same bu as close as pso2 possible :P

Thanks for the advise.

It's a project really if meseta is able....

Edit: Between the 3 I like the 2nd more design wise but figured would have more options....There's 2 others but didn't like them enough to make them again. There's many females in that game id conider making but the hera sisters came to mind 1st.

Well if you do pursue the challenge good luck.

jackfrosty
Aug 3, 2014, 07:52 PM
Yes. It's called Puzzle & Dragons.

Imagine Pokemon Meets Bejeweled and its that....and the artwork for monsters is amazing! well imo

Great now i found another iphone game addiction i think :lol:

Dark Emerald EXE
Aug 3, 2014, 07:53 PM
Great now i found another iphone game addiction i think :lol:It's very funny if you give it a try. I've been playing for a year now.

moorebounce
Aug 3, 2014, 09:00 PM
I remember someone on 2ch made Obama.

I wouldn't exactly call that hard.

Sizustar
Aug 4, 2014, 12:13 AM
It's possible, especially with the last AC scratch, here are some Japanese player's take on "Demon Girl"
[SPOILER-BOX]
http://i.imgur.com/yAvxbHc.png
http://i.imgur.com/JA4HFYU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5PVKcPs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RGTqkHh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wBetE1L.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LhNodOP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R9RK6T9.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

EvilMag
Aug 4, 2014, 12:34 AM
I request someone should make Ichitaro!

Dark Emerald EXE
Aug 4, 2014, 01:14 PM
Ah yes I did notice those sadly on ship 2 the wings are going for 10+ mil atm. Guess I need to start doing TAs again haha

Dark Emerald EXE
Aug 9, 2014, 09:26 PM
Well...im almost getting the gil for the wings...

Im set on this one. I'm assuming the outfit that fits is the demon one that just came out yea?

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_597.jpg

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 12, 2015, 12:09 AM
Part 2

Hello All,

Not making a new char but considering redoing one to look like below. I can't think of any cloth that looks similar but the cloth doesn't really matter as much more or less concerned with the hair and skin tone (going to be using my female newman)

Taking game limitation into account.

Can either of these be made? (Same person just different forms)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/MONS_643_zps9ec82a63.jpg[/URL]
http://www.puzzleanddragonsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/10/2014-10-10pazdra-11.jpg

Kiyumi
Jan 12, 2015, 12:13 AM
Hey its パズドラ
I gave up on it after rank 182...now I log in only for the stone and PAL points

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 12, 2015, 12:15 AM
lol I see. That's really the only game I play on my phone. (well clash of clans too but just casually)

Edit: Forgot how to update thread title ><

Edson Drake
Jan 12, 2015, 12:31 AM
Part 2

Hello All,

Not making a new char but considering redoing one to look like below. I can't think of any cloth that looks similar but the cloth doesn't really matter as much more or less concerned with the hair and skin tone (going to be using my female newman)

Taking game limitation into account.

Can either of these be made? (Same person just different forms)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/MONS_643_zps9ec82a63.jpg[/URL]
http://www.puzzleanddragonsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/10/2014-10-10pazdra-11.jpg

You'll need 3 things:

Luna Prophecy Shadow, Dark Race Wings(black or the reddish one) and a circlet but I'm not sure which one, check Cirno out for possible circlets. I have one in mind right now but not sure by name.

Also, you may want to mess around extensively in the salon to get the right skin tone and hair colour.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 12, 2015, 12:37 AM
You'll need 3 things:

Luna Prophecy Shadow, Dark Race Wings(black or the reddish one) and a circlet but I'm not sure which one, check Cirno out for possible circlets. I have one in mind right now but not sure by name.

Also, you may want to mess around extensively in the salon to get the right skin tone and hair colour.

Neat I'll check that out.

Is there a hairstyle that closely resembles above?

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 12, 2015, 05:55 AM
Orakio long looks close enough.

Tried tanned skin+light hair before; didn't work out for me :/

That skin tone in the second picture is hard to pin down with human/newman, and not at all available for dewmans; their skin tones don't go into that sort of orange (though I'd love to be proven wrong about humans/newmans).

Edson Drake
Jan 12, 2015, 12:41 PM
Yeah Orakio Long seems a great fit, forgot to include in the suggestion above.

The skin tone isn't that hard to pull off as a newman, since the character seems to be elf-ish but will require quite a bit of tests. Having a dark-skinned fonewearl, I can tell you I didn't get the skin tone right the first time, I had to touch her in the salon quite a bit.

The light/white/silver hair is not for everyone. I tried it myself but didn't like it, but saw some characters with it and was absolutely stunning.

There a character named Justice using it on ship 2 which is especially stunning, I think he got the light/white colour right. It's not just the whitest white in the pallete, it requires an almost grey/silver.

I love that we were given the full RGB instead of a few colours like most games out there.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 12, 2015, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the input guys. Those wings cost 26 mil so will probably put that on hold lol

Edit: funny thing is....the graphic details in salon or way more crisp oppose to in game

Selphea
Jan 12, 2015, 07:23 PM
Edit: funny thing is....the graphic details in salon or way more crisp oppose to in game

If you're using nVidia Inspector, try turning on Antialiasing Fix.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 12, 2015, 08:10 PM
If you're using nVidia Inspector, try turning on Antialiasing Fix.

I have it but havent been using it :P Have notice the awesomeness of it though.


It just dawned on me......since Ill be using female newman....i can just toy with the character creator for the right skin tone and just save the file for when im ready to do it.....if i can find link for it again w/ english :o

saraishadow
Jan 12, 2015, 09:18 PM
Edit: funny thing is....the graphic details in salon or way more crisp oppose to in game

max shader and graphics settings make in-game on par with salon, especially with inspector

untrustful
Jan 12, 2015, 09:45 PM
I made Elton John for a contest a long time ago (really grateful for winning, got me some good things with that ac reward):




Real Image:
http://www.lets-have-a-party.co.uk/media/ecom/prodlg/33840.jpg

Character Image:
http://i.imgur.com/wZOVIO8.jpg

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 13, 2015, 12:27 AM
Oh yea.....Character Creator is untranslated originally....and none of the patch links work anymore...or atleast from what i've seen lol

Edson Drake
Jan 13, 2015, 01:45 AM
Protip: Make another account which you'll use just for that purpose.

Any race, build all you like, just don't confirm, save your results and voila!

Hours of fun.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 13, 2015, 08:46 PM
Here ya go: http://arks-layer.com/docs/CC_V2_ENPatch.zip

Thanks AIDA!!!!!

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 13, 2015, 10:45 PM
Hmmmm unless there's a part of the palette im just not seeing......think this is the closest i can get for skin color. Don't think the bright orange hue is possible with game's color palette.

Thoughts? (Ignore the hair style)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150113_224259_002_zps633b1e43.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150113_224259_002_zps633b1e43.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/2014-10-10pazdra-11_zpsce9b9b09.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/2014-10-10pazdra-11_zpsce9b9b09.jpg.html)

NoiseHERO
Jan 13, 2015, 11:16 PM
green in her eyes not nuff green

Also why are all the images in this thread broken for me.

Walkure
Jan 13, 2015, 11:23 PM
Make a caseal for the skin tone then, I guess.

I don't even think Newearl is a good fit for that character, since I don't see prominent elf ears on DMeta. I thought it was just covered by the hair, but on closer inspection I think she actually has furry ears at a near-horizontal angle.

Looking at discrete measurements of hue, saturation, and value, I think the issue is specifically that the skin tones aren't as saturated. Hue range is mostly 14-18 (which is on the color palette), saturation is around high 50's-60's (whereas the color palette caps out at ~44% saturation), and value is at 78.

Something like around here:
http://i.imgur.com/xnmT7oP.png
Would be closest just taking color measurements on the palette as fact.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 13, 2015, 11:57 PM
Make a caseal for the skin tone then, I guess.

I don't even think Newearl is a good fit for that character, since I don't see prominent elf ears on DMeta. I thought it was just covered by the hair, but on closer inspection I think she actually has furry ears at a near-horizontal angle.

Looking at discrete measurements of hue, saturation, and value, I think the issue is specifically that the skin tones aren't as saturated. Hue range is mostly 14-18 (which is on the color palette), saturation is around high 50's-60's (whereas the color palette caps out at ~44% saturation), and value is at 78.

Something like around here:
http://i.imgur.com/xnmT7oP.png
Would be closest just taking color measurements on the palette as fact.


Well the reason I chose my female newman was out of sheer coincidence. I was going to make a new char originally but then realized my female newman (that never really used) was FO anyway (which is what i wanted to make DMeta) so was going to roll with it. :o

As far as the ears you mentioned....i really wanna say that's part of the wings. The reason I say that is because Light metatron looks pretty much the same as her and she doesn't have that on her. The ears don't seem to show on either pic....

On another variant of l.meta the ears show :P Technically human would be better since she has normal ears in that pick but im fine with that minor difference.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140808190721/pad/images/d/dc/Pet1518.png

Walkure
Jan 14, 2015, 12:10 AM
Look at the previous evolution; they're sandwiched between locks of hair, right around where the ears would be. :-?

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 14, 2015, 12:13 AM
Look at the previous evolution; they're sandwiched between locks of hair, right around where the ears would be. :-?

Ah ok I see what you're talking about....swapping between her's and L.meta...i really wanna say that's part of the circlet on her head but that's a very small thing....not like alot of people know about pad anyway haha

Edson Drake
Jan 14, 2015, 12:43 AM
Hmmmm unless there's a part of the palette im just not seeing......think this is the closest i can get for skin color. Don't think the bright orange hue is possible with game's color palette.

Thoughts? (Ignore the hair style)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150113_224259_002_zps633b1e43.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150113_224259_002_zps633b1e43.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/2014-10-10pazdra-11_zpsce9b9b09.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/2014-10-10pazdra-11_zpsce9b9b09.jpg.html)

If you can go slightly more down-left on the palette youll achieve the desired skin tone.

That's how I did my dark-skinned fonewearl, it took quite a bit of tries until I got the desired skin colour. You're close, but you have to take the "outside salon" into consideration.

Since my fonewearl also wears the Luna Prophecy Shadow currently and has dark-skin, be sure to tell me when it's done! I want sister pics!

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 24, 2015, 04:00 PM
Well since i got FI to 75 on my other char.....I'm back at this....

So i think this is coming along quite nice. Currently still in character creator so none of this is official yet (as far as hair style,costume,accessories) but everything else I think I nailed....or at least to the best of my ability haha


Thoughts?

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150124_155812_004_zpsa23fba30.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150124_155812_004_zpsa23fba30.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150124_155825_005_zps16a1b027.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150124_155825_005_zps16a1b027.jpg.html)

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 24, 2015, 06:42 PM
Pic of skin color slider please.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 24, 2015, 07:19 PM
Pic of skin color slider please.

Here ya go. Something wrong with it?


http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150124_191801_002_zps9e13f34a.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150124_191801_002_zps9e13f34a.jpg.html)

Edson Drake
Jan 25, 2015, 12:26 AM
Looking good, can we see her face with a hairtstyle that doesn't hide it?


Here ya go. Something wrong with it?


http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150124_191801_002_zps9e13f34a.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150124_191801_002_zps9e13f34a.jpg.html)

I'm pretty sure he's just curious about the skin tone. He asked for my Fonewearl file for the same reason, don't worry, it's looking great.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 12:37 AM
Looking good, can we see her face with a hairtstyle that doesn't hide it?



I'm pretty sure he's just curious about the skin tone. He asked for my Fonewearl file for the same reason, don't worry, it's looking great.

Let me affix this wand real quick and ill post another. haven't transitioned from character creator yet.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 12:52 AM
Done. More reveal of the face.

Edit:Once skin tone,hair color, face,etc is down pack ill transition this over to the game itseld and add desired hair style n such....

[spoiler-box]
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150125_004940_002_zpsa6098ac7.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150125_004940_002_zpsa6098ac7.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150125_004944_003_zps90c85a3b.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150125_004944_003_zps90c85a3b.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150125_004948_004_zpsdb1848a7.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150125_004948_004_zpsdb1848a7.jpg.html)[/spoiler-box]

Edson Drake
Jan 25, 2015, 02:46 AM
Looking good! She has a bit more of an angry face, when the original char has more of an absent/cold stare. It's your char though, not sure if you're going for literal or just interpretation. Pretty nice anyway.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 02:52 AM
Looking good! She has a bit more of an angry face, when the original char has more of an absent/cold stare. It's your char though, not sure if you're going for literal or just interpretation. Pretty nice anyway.

I was gonna attempt to make as similiar...

I suck at faces lol when it comes to expressions...

Any advise?

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 25, 2015, 02:55 AM
Looking good, can we see her face with a hairtstyle that doesn't hide it?



I'm pretty sure he's just curious about the skin tone. He asked for my Fonewearl file for the same reason, don't worry, it's looking great.

Yes... curious... I'm not making a shrine for bronze-skinned beauties or sacrificing goats or anything...


I was gonna attempt to make as similiar...

I suck at faces lol when it comes to expressions...

Any advise?

It's 90% eyebrow choice+facial features placement+mouth shape.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 03:07 AM
Yes... curious... I'm not making a shrine for bronze-skinned beauties or sacrificing goats or anything...



It's 90% eyebrow choice+facial features placement+mouth shape.

Hmmm guess ill have to toy with it tomorrow....

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 03:31 AM
How about this?
After toying with it I can see now how eyebrows can change how their expression looks

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150125_032948_001_zps641a49ac.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150125_032948_001_zps641a49ac.jpg.html)

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 05:09 AM
now she looks sad, or like a bad actor trying to make a serious face. or like a worried girlfriend.

Edson Drake
Jan 25, 2015, 06:10 AM
Hmm I'd have to agree, it's not bad, far from that, but try getting a neutral face so that when you display emotion it will really stand out.

Hang in there, I know this can be hard, might want to research similar characters to use as inspiration, you're doing great so far, I'd say.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 02:42 PM
It's a shame they just dont have presets for facials expressions haha.... doing neutral is hard haha.....

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 03:26 PM
Hmmmm change the facial placement so the eyebrows are higher. The mouth im unsure what to do with since going up or down will make her look happy or sad.

Thoughts?


http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150125_152351_002_zps10816a7c.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150125_152351_002_zps10816a7c.jpg.html)

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 06:18 PM
you had right idea with low eyebrows, high eyebrows are too peaceful/happy/ or "..weellll.."

I also like to give a tiny not emotional, non-forced natural slight frown to give a face that extra rested look.

from pic provided looks like she's smiling.


ALSO JUST TO THROW IN THERE IN GENERAL HIPS ALWAYS WIDER THAN SHOULDERS.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 08:08 PM
you had right idea with low eyebrows, high eyebrows are too peaceful/happy/ or "..weellll.."

I also like to give a tiny not emotional, non-forced natural slight frown to give a face that extra rested look.

from pic provided looks like she's smiling.


ALSO JUST TO THROW IN THERE IN GENERAL HIPS ALWAYS WIDER THAN SHOULDERS.

Hmmm like this?

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150125_200744_004_zps5981e9d9.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150125_200744_004_zps5981e9d9.jpg.html)

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 08:10 PM
better I'd say, she doesn't give off a vibe that's as sad as last lower eyebrow'd one. imo at least.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 08:25 PM
better I'd say, she doesn't give off a vibe that's as sad as last lower eyebrow'd one. imo at least.

What would you recommend I should change to try to get the correct stare?

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 08:50 PM
Hmm... I'd say you're super close on the face imo.

to look accurately like the character is gonna take some accessories, outfits and hair not in the base char simulator.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 08:52 PM
Hmm... I'd say you're super close on the face imo.

to look accurately like the character is gonna take some accessories, outfits and hair not in the base char simulator.

Oh i just wanted to get the skintone,hair color, facial expression done in character creator since that's the hardest part.

Everything else imma do in game.

In your opinion, does the face somewhat match?

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 09:00 PM
wait... now that I zoom into her face...

he eyes are more slanted.

and kind of have more a teal/turquoise shade. dunno if you have a higher quality reference.

But yeah any more detailed than that and it'd prolly be easier for me to tweak it myself if you sent my the character file.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 09:15 PM
wait... now that I zoom into her face...

he eyes are more slanted.

and kind of have more a teal/turquoise shade. dunno if you have a higher quality reference.

But yeah any more detailed than that and it'd prolly be easier for me to tweak it myself if you sent my the character file.

That's fine...what would i send it through?

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 10:06 PM
erm anything that works I normally use mediafire since it was right to the point but I don't know if the website recently went through any annoying changes.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 10:18 PM
erm anything that works I normally use mediafire since it was right to the point but I don't know if the website recently went through any annoying changes.

I believe i did it right...

https://www.mediafire.com/?0k3jcgt9fc97vqp

NoiseHERO
Jan 25, 2015, 11:20 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/download/q83g58ridi95zgw/DMETA_NH_revise.fnp

Well this is how I'd do it- ack crap maybe forgot to tweak tone of her hair- nah it's fine

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 25, 2015, 11:45 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/download/q83g58ridi95zgw/DMETA_NH_revise.fnp

Well this is how I'd do it- ack crap maybe forgot to tweak tone of her hair- nah it's fine

Thank You. Unless I'm blind.....the hair is like an off white (kind of gray ish). Unless I'm trippin. doesn't appear gray in salon which is good.

Now i just need to pick a headband....the only ones i saw that could possible work where the circlets but i may have to toy with it in game as id like to have it where the circle isn't going over the hair....... Everything else will be game side now so I'll be doing that tomorrow when i get off.

ヴァルゴサークレット Virgo Circlet (most fond of this one)

サークレット Circlet

ピスケスクラウン Pisces Crown

I believe many have mentioned the closest hair to resembles hers is Orakio Long Hair and use Luna Prophecy Black Shadow....don't have to use that cloth but wanted to keep appearance...can always change it something else....

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 26, 2015, 01:30 AM
If you're still having problems using facial feature adjustment for ideal character expression, take a look at my newearl http://i.cubeupload.com/aW4vck.jpg. If I had to describe it, that's my ideal neutral face (the lip color even contributes to the expression quite a bit; she'd have a bit of a perpetual smile without it). Hair is in the way but I used eyebrow type D. Here's a pic of a modified Io with a good face http://i.imgur.com/kewVkOQ.jpg.

A good neutral face lets the eyes+eyebrows be the most vocal features, and even then, they usually express a milder attitude - typically relaxed. If you see azanami's face for example, her eyes+eyebrows intentionally communicate non-threatening/relaxed/caring.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 26, 2015, 01:48 AM
If you're still having problems using facial feature adjustment for ideal character expression, take a look at my newearl http://i.cubeupload.com/aW4vck.jpg. If I had to describe it, that's my ideal neutral face (the lip color even contributes to the expression quite a bit; she'd have a bit of a perpetual smile without it). Hair is in the way but I used eyebrow type D. Here's a pic of a modified Io with a good face http://i.imgur.com/kewVkOQ.jpg.

A good neutral face lets the eyes+eyebrows be the most vocal features, and even then, they usually express a milder attitude. If you see azanami's face for example, her eyes+eyebrows intentionally communicate non-threatening/relaxed/caring.

This the one NoiseHERO tweaked for me.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150126_014643_003_zps6b06b9c5.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150126_014643_003_zps6b06b9c5.jpg.html)

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 26, 2015, 01:54 AM
This the one NoiseHERO tweaked for me.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150126_014643_003_zps6b06b9c5.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150126_014643_003_zps6b06b9c5.jpg.html)

Looks good. Still looks like she's sour about something, but I'd put that on the mouth shape; try playing with that. The eyes+brows look fine (just hide the mouth from view, and if she doesn't look permanently pissed from the cheekbones up, it's progress).

The eyes/eyebrows say 'serious'. Not really relaxed. The inner brows slanting that deep to the nose, and that close to the eyes is a large contributor to that. Try out other eyebrow models.

NoiseHERO
Jan 26, 2015, 02:31 AM
based eyes and eyebrow area off of couple glances at his reference. The mouth I left alone <_> I always go for either slight cocky smirk or slight frown since just straight line shaped mouth feels weird to me. Also character he's trying to replication doesn't have a strongly detailed face (anime) so don't be afraid to use some imagination to fill in gaps.

As for headgear.... I definitely love abusing the fuck out of the recent function of accessory movement. So I'll combine 3-4 items to make helmets/head gear/masks all the time.

That might be kinda tricky though... I do so by just buying everything headgear/mask related and messing around with it later. But that's a lot of meseta.

The outfit, there's definitely an outfit out that looks a LOT like hers. But I rarely use my fem characters so I don't remember names of outfits. (also there's like 5x more girl outfits than guys.)

Edson Drake
Jan 26, 2015, 02:53 AM
This the one NoiseHERO tweaked for me.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/pso20150126_014643_003_zps6b06b9c5.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/pso20150126_014643_003_zps6b06b9c5.jpg.html)

Not bad, a big improvement. I think the facial shape is just right. Now to tweak her expression as she's still not neutral and looks somewhat angry.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 26, 2015, 09:13 AM
I had a feeling creating characters was gonna be hard....and i was right. Although i suppose to be fair it is based off something instead of a new thought.

Is how the mouth is shaped not sellin it?

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 26, 2015, 10:53 PM
All pictures using orakio long hairstyle.

I took some extra liberty with the jaw; didn't seem feminine enough.

Wide eyes can sometimes communicate aggression depending on facial features. This is one of those times it did.

Old:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/nAAwoD.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
New:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/bKn2BZ.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

As a bonus, the first picture here uses the eyebrows you had before, vs my choice.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/UwEXBe.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/bKn2BZ.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

I'll leave you to achieve your own perfection with this character. Here (http://www.filedropper.com/response2) is where I left off.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 26, 2015, 10:56 PM
All pictures using orakio long hairstyle.

I took some extra liberty with the jaw; didn't seem feminine enough.

Wide eyes can sometimes communicate aggression depending on facial features. This is one of those times it did.

Old:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/nAAwoD.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
New:
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/bKn2BZ.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

As a bonus, the first picture here uses the eyebrows you had before, vs my choice.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/UwEXBe.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.cubeupload.com/bKn2BZ.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Oh now I see it. haha yea it does make that much of a difference.

Thank You

Well think I can transition this over to game now. :)

Maninbluejumpsuit
Jan 26, 2015, 10:58 PM
Here's (http://www.filedropper.com/response2) your file back if you want to continue from there. I haven't achieved perfection yet, and this is your character; can't impose my tastes on what should be perfect for you.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 26, 2015, 11:18 PM
Here's (http://www.filedropper.com/response2) your file back if you want to continue from there. I haven't achieved perfection yet, and this is your character; can't impose my tastes on what should be perfect for you.

I know :P just wanted to see in visual what you guys where referring to. Which now I do :)

NoiseHERO
Jan 26, 2015, 11:30 PM
I like my jaw better <_>;;; I try not to make faces too narrow cause don't like how it looks in semi-profile, but that's just me.

But really tho what character are you making again? or at least link higher res reference. <_>

Also headgear that covers forehead can make expressions/face shapes trickier to match.

And obviously art style as well. Like especially considering difference between me and bluejumpsuits basic facial preferences in terms of interpretation. Kinda throws the accuracy and imagination balance into a mess.


But yeah from here everything's up to Dark for any more minor details.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2015, 12:06 AM
I like my jaw better <_>;;; I try not to make faces too narrow cause don't like how it looks in semi-profile, but that's just me.

But really tho what character are you making again? or at least link higher res reference. <_>

Also headgear that covers forehead can make expressions/face shapes trickier to match.

And obviously art style as well. Like especially considering difference between me and bluejumpsuits basic facial preferences in terms of interpretation. Kinda throws the accuracy and imagination balance into a mess.


But yeah from here everything's up to Dark for any more minor details.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/2014-10-10pazdra-111_zpsd6201a83.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/2014-10-10pazdra-111_zpsd6201a83.jpg.html)

NoiseHERO
Jan 27, 2015, 12:13 AM
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/jaye3rd89/2014-10-10pazdra-111_zpsd6201a83.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/jaye3rd89/media/2014-10-10pazdra-111_zpsd6201a83.jpg.html)

yeah that's the one I've been using, it's ultra small <_>

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2015, 12:17 AM
yeah that's the one I've been using, it's ultra small <_>

Hmmmm I'm not sure then lol only other place I can consider is the site itself.
If you click on the picture on the right it should enlage.

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1644

Anduril
Jan 27, 2015, 12:43 AM
Found a slightly bigger, clearer image for you guys.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/AndurilCh/7Xn69rL_zps0ec6145e.jpg