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Rakurai
Aug 28, 2014, 03:01 AM
I don't really see people talking too much about it, so I figured a topic for it might help spark a little discussion.

In any case, it's a bit stingier with the coins then I was expecting it to be. Regardless of which game you play, you're going to be breaking even or losing money until you get into a bonus round, which is where all the real profit is to be found.

Meseta Shooter seems pretty underwhelming as far as its payout goes. Seems like you can get the most out of it by finding a group of players to do it with, and playing in silver mode only when a PSE Burst has triggered, as there's a chance you''ll run into a gigantic boss Mesetan during gold rounds that drops several hundred coins when it's defeated.

As for Rappy Slots, there doesn't seem to be any trick to it other then playing with one coin bets until the Rappy meter is one notch away from being filled up, then switching to the max bet from there. If you accidentally trigger the bonus chance with a low bet, you can purposely botch it to bring the meter back to four notches then use the max bet until it maxes again.

I'm also curious as to whether or not the free drinks in the lobby have some kind of influence on your odds of winning.

Daiyousei
Aug 28, 2014, 03:06 AM
All I see the drinks is just more like a fortune teller, who knows, we'll have to wait for people to actually test if it actually increases your chances.

Arksenth
Aug 28, 2014, 03:07 AM
4 person Mesetan Shooter is really the most consistent way to earn coins, I'd say. Made 2.5k in half an hour today but it gets boring fast.

TaigaUC
Aug 28, 2014, 03:12 AM
I was getting garbage luck. Barely anything in 20 attempts.
I tried drinking several times until I got "great luck!" (5 stars) among other stuff, such as "felt great" (5 music notes).

Went to a different machine and got two gold coins fairly quickly for a Rappy Chance, followed by a triple Wildcard that spawned a PSE Burst. My first so far.
Was left with 3/5 gold coins, got two more fairly quickly and entered a second Rappy Chance that didn't give much.
However, I was getting something every 3 attempts or so. Way luckier than the previous machine.

I told a friend about the drinks.
He tried it and quickly went from 780 to 1140.

So... I think that the drinks may make a difference.
Perhaps your luck increases if you get more of the "level 5" drinks?

Could just be random luck, of course.

fay
Aug 28, 2014, 05:39 AM
I don't think the drinks could do that really in a logical way. Logic, in this game, right? Anyway, we aren't charged meseta for the drinks so essentially everyone could just keep drinking away until they get the drink they want which in turn defeats the purpose. Compare it to the luck giving person in PSU. It charged you meseta and it was only once a day. That makes more sense. That means you get luck you are given rather than going again for something else.

Also, is there a way to get more gold coin passes like a one a day or something?

TaigaUC
Aug 28, 2014, 08:17 AM
It takes a long time to get enough gold coins for a Random Chance.
Drinks may may only last a short time.
You'd have to get up and drink for a while to refresh the supposed buff.
That would give people time to take your seat.

Perhaps that was their intention? I don't know.

invadrgir
Aug 28, 2014, 08:23 AM
How do you even go positive in the Meseta Shooter? Even with 4 players by the time I get to the continue screen I barely break even from the admission fee I had to pay.

yoshiblue
Aug 28, 2014, 08:30 AM
I don't think the drinks could do that really in a logical way.

Magic must defeat magic.

Rakurai
Aug 28, 2014, 08:33 AM
How do you even go positive in the Meseta Shooter? Even with 4 players by the time I get to the continue screen I barely break even from the admission fee I had to pay.

PSe bursts are pretty much the only way you'll get any profit, and even then, you usually need to get lucky with a boss Mesetan and/or Mr. Powan showing up.

Switch to silver mode to maximize your gains if you're in the middle of one when your current session ends.

DJcooltrainer
Aug 28, 2014, 09:15 AM
I tried some slots with my free coins, and lost a few hundred CC. Got some drinks, and lost a few hundred more.

At least it's accurate. Usually when I go to a real casino I end up losing a lot of money and getting drunk, then losing more money.

invadrgir
Aug 28, 2014, 09:29 AM
PSe bursts are pretty much the only way you'll get any profit, and even then, you usually need to get lucky with a boss Mesetan and/or Mr. Powan showing up.

Switch to silver mode to maximize your gains if you're in the middle of one when your current session ends.

And how do you switch to silver? Do I just pay 200 instead of 100?

HeyItsTHK
Aug 28, 2014, 10:48 AM
also when deciding to play slots try finding as machine that already has 4 rappy spots filled up.

Jokai
Aug 28, 2014, 11:38 AM
I don't know why you guys are losing on slots, I have 2k from slots alone. I'd have more if I didn't burn 800 trying to do the shooter by myself. My only tip on slots is to bet 1 coin until you have 4/5 on the meter and then up your bet to 5 until you get 5/5 on the meter because your bet is locked during the bonus game thing.

Punisher106
Aug 28, 2014, 11:56 AM
Am I the only one who wants a download for the songs that play when you get the Chance Game going, as well as the PSE Burst? It sounds so friggin' energetic.

Lostbob117
Aug 28, 2014, 02:49 PM
I played Rappy Slot with 5 coins all the time. Since the different rappies are multipliers.

Rakurai
Aug 28, 2014, 03:32 PM
It's more profitable to just do one coin bets until the meter is about to top off.

You rarely make any significant profit outside of the chance game and PSE burst.

Jaqlou Swig KING
Aug 28, 2014, 03:38 PM
FUK
I'VE GOT BUGGED GAMBLING MECHANICS. THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO.

redroses
Aug 28, 2014, 03:56 PM
What does finding the hidden Lillipan sticker do? Does anybody happen to know this?

Dragon_Knight
Aug 28, 2014, 09:37 PM
I tried some slots with my free coins, and lost a few hundred CC. Got some drinks, and lost a few hundred more.

At least it's accurate. Usually when I go to a real casino I end up losing a lot of money and getting drunk, then losing more money.


^ This. My luck is garbage with or without any drinks to help me along the way. Hell I spent a good half an hour losing CC night one on the slots. If they would only get blackjack I could be happier about losing. :\

Rakurai
Aug 28, 2014, 09:45 PM
Something weird happened while I was playing the slots yesterday.

I got up to go AFK for a moment after an unsuccessful attempt, but when I came back, the slot machine had somehow gone into PSE burst mode while I was gone. The rappy meter was completely empty when it happened, too.

I hope it's not just a glitch and there's some kind of rhyme and reason to it.

JRDeBo
Aug 28, 2014, 10:41 PM
As much as I like the slots, I miss my giant roulette wheel :(

untrustful
Aug 28, 2014, 11:14 PM
There's 4 stickers I found.

2 in the entrance, with one needing a ballon to get accessed, and the other on the side of the bar. The other 2 are in the center of the place, with one on the castle slightly to the right side, and one on top of a video screen.

Not sure where the rest are, or how many left there are.

Rakurai
Aug 28, 2014, 11:23 PM
The sticker locations are randomized to a degree.

Don't know if it's on a per block or per player basis, but it was mentioned in one of the news pages.

Sizustar
Aug 28, 2014, 11:24 PM
What does finding the hidden Lillipan sticker do? Does anybody happen to know this?

I know they give titles, and that everyone's sticker is in different place.

Stickboy
Aug 28, 2014, 11:31 PM
Can anyone make a list of what's being sold in coin shop?

Metalsnake27
Aug 29, 2014, 01:02 AM
Few things I'm wondering about slots...

That message that pops up when someone "wins big" in slots (loose translation) Never activated it and was wondering what triggers it.

Also that counter that is underneath how many coins slots cost I'm guessing is also how many people triggered that on that particular machine?

Rakurai
Aug 29, 2014, 02:08 AM
That message only shows up when someone triggers a PSE burst.

ShadowDragon28
Aug 29, 2014, 02:17 AM
I've looked everywhere and I've never found the hidden Lilipan what block are people finding these guys/the stickers?

Ce'Nedra
Aug 29, 2014, 02:52 AM
I've looked everywhere and I've never found the hidden Lilipan what block are people finding these guys/the stickers?

I'm pretty sure this is on all blocks and is just something you need to search and changes every 24h and is also per person. They are pretty small too, be sure to use balloons and check even the ceilings.

Alenoir
Aug 29, 2014, 06:06 AM
I don't know about the per person thing. Me and 2 of my friends all saw the same sticker at the same spot when we were running around looking for it.

Takatsuki
Aug 29, 2014, 06:39 AM
So... some people are referring to them as "Hidden Lilipans" and some as "Lilipan Stickers" ... What are they? What do they look like? Pic?

[S]kyHawk
Aug 29, 2014, 06:56 AM
So... some people are referring to them as "Hidden Lilipans" and some as "Lilipan Stickers" ... What are they? What do they look like? Pic?
[spoiler-box]http://i.imgur.com/PTIx5Y8.png[/spoiler-box]

branflakes325
Aug 29, 2014, 04:00 PM
Can anyone make a list of what's being sold in coin shop?

I would like to know this as well. What items are we evening gambling for?

UnLucky
Aug 30, 2014, 12:35 AM
So it's technically possible for the rappy to stomp out a matched 777 in order to change it into something not as rewarding.

That actually happened to me just now.

Xelor
Aug 30, 2014, 02:09 AM
So, are there really different luck factors based on the slot machine you're on? Or is it just simply lucky people? Because I swear I keep seeing the same name pop up whenever that guy triggers a PSE burst.

NoiseHERO
Aug 30, 2014, 02:41 AM
So it's technically possible for the rappy to stomp out a matched 777 in order to change it into something not as rewarding.

That actually happened to me just now.

Sounds like a metaphor for this whole game's RNG "reward" for your effort system.

Stealthcmc1974
Aug 30, 2014, 08:30 AM
So it's technically possible for the rappy to stomp out a matched 777 in order to change it into something not as rewarding.

That actually happened to me just now.

You know, maybe you shouldn't have called yourself Unlucky. :-?

Macman
Aug 30, 2014, 02:18 PM
So, are there really different luck factors based on the slot machine you're on? Or is it just simply lucky people? Because I swear I keep seeing the same name pop up whenever that guy triggers a PSE burst.
Yeah. I was shooting Mesetans for a good hour last night and ミオ was getting burst after burst on the slots.

GHNeko
Aug 30, 2014, 03:13 PM
LFP MESETAN SHOOTER 1/4


[spoiler-box]Mesetan Shooter is great man. But fuck @ not playing 4/4.[/spoiler-box]

HaxMega
Aug 30, 2014, 03:21 PM
So it's technically possible for the rappy to stomp out a matched 777 in order to change it into something not as rewarding.

That actually happened to me just now.

I actually had that happen to me last night with 3 wilds, a rappy came down and changed the center wild to a summer rappy. -.-

GHNeko
Aug 30, 2014, 03:27 PM
This is why I call it the RNGino now.

I mean lol.

This thing is coming from a team of devs who some how were able to create a legit reasons to dislike rare mob spawns.

These guys are the essence of Do the Impossible.

Rakurai
Aug 30, 2014, 03:54 PM
So apparently, you can only hold a max of 30,000 coins unless you pay for a casino pass with AC.

This is really only relevant to people who win the jackpot, but it's still an annoying decision regardless.

UnLucky
Aug 30, 2014, 04:45 PM
This is why I call it the RNGino now.

I mean lol.

This thing is coming from a team of devs who some how were able to create a legit reasons to dislike rare mob spawns.

These guys are the essence of Do the Impossible.
Yeah I like how the slots have a symbol that pays out nothing even if you match it.

The whole point of slots is to match three in a row, so even a 7 or Bar which would normally be desirable can be worse than cherries depending on what the other reels show.

So then Sega decides it's a great idea to add something that can only block, and since there are 9 reels instead of 3, you can have any number of them show up at any given time.


And yeah, rare spawns still don't count for COs. So many Rogbelts and Magisas when all I want is to do the daily for the normal one. I also don't even bother to pick up their rares or unique PA drops, but I'll definitely loot common tech discs!

Rakurai
Aug 30, 2014, 05:00 PM
I feel like the symbol that seemingly does nothing has a higher chance of being changed into a matching symbol by the Rappy.

I also had an event where a stampede of Rappys turned all of said symbols into wild cards during a PSE burst.

.Jack
Aug 30, 2014, 05:23 PM
So apparently, you can only hold a max of 30,000 coins unless you pay for a casino pass with AC.

This is really only relevant to people who win the jackpot, but it's still an annoying decision regardless.


Probably just a rumor:

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/akq9Yc8.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

angrysquid
Aug 30, 2014, 05:25 PM
might be a premium thing

SodaJunky
Aug 30, 2014, 05:30 PM
I hate this casino. The catchy, amazing music. The Cutesy mascots everywhere. Te beautiful architecture. The fact you can just quest there and never have to ACTUALLY LEAVE.

I worked so hard to kick my gambling habit at the arcades, and now here I am blowing all these coins again. Praise be that this doesn't cost straight meseta.

Metalsnake27
Aug 30, 2014, 05:35 PM
So apparently, you can only hold a max of 30,000 coins unless you pay for a casino pass with AC.

This is really only relevant to people who win the jackpot, but it's still an annoying decision regardless.

Figures there was a catch.

SodaJunky
Aug 30, 2014, 05:50 PM
Are there prizes that cost more than 30kCC?

If not, I think it's totally reasonable.

Rakurai
Aug 30, 2014, 06:14 PM
The most expensive items cost 10K at the moment.

Macman
Aug 31, 2014, 12:23 AM
Are there prizes that cost more than 30kCC?

If not, I think it's totally reasonable.
You won the jackpot!
Too bad you didn't have premium at the time. So much for the other 170,000 coins huh? :-?

GHNeko
Aug 31, 2014, 12:56 AM
Wouldnt it just deduct 30k from the jackpot and put it back in?

That seems like the logical choice right?

Dnd
Aug 31, 2014, 01:16 AM
Wouldnt it just deduct 30k from the jackpot and put it back in?

That seems like the logical choice right?

This is sega.. and pso2....

The fact the limit is 30k(?) and a jackpot is 200k baseline kinda throws that logical choice out the window imo....

In before you can only win the jackpot if you're premium and have one of those unlimited CC things.....

isCasted
Aug 31, 2014, 02:16 AM
On bumped.org about “30 Day Casino Coin Cap Unlock”:

This item removes the restriction on the amount of Casino Coins you can carry with you when you depart for a quest.

If it's all how it's says, it's possible to win whole jackpot but you can't start quest until you dump coins into rewards.

UnLucky
Aug 31, 2014, 03:00 AM
Does that mean your character can hold as many coins as you want, but you can only store 30k at a time?

I was wondering why you always deposited/withdrew all your coins every time you entered the casino, even though nothing really seemed to change either way.

.Jack
Aug 31, 2014, 03:15 AM
On bumped.org about “30 Day Casino Coin Cap Unlock”:


If it's all how it's says, it's possible to win whole jackpot but you can't start quest until you dump coins into rewards.

Once you reach 30k points you have to purchase from AC similar to extra storage. You can keep playing and earn more as much as you want freely but you cannot go into any missions. Just spend CC on anything basically once you get 30k+ or else if you decide to enter any mission it will reset whatever amount you have back to 30k.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/WAF67bn.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[S]kyHawk
Aug 31, 2014, 07:30 AM
How does one even win so much CC in such a short amount of time? Any tips? I'd like to get some of those fancy weapon camos. :-P

BIG OLAF
Aug 31, 2014, 08:02 AM
kyHawk;3183278']How does one even win so much CC in such a short amount of time? Any tips? I'd like to get some of those fancy weapon camos. :-P

He probably just bought AC items from other people and traded them for casino coins at the Recycle Shop.

[S]kyHawk
Aug 31, 2014, 11:49 AM
He probably just bought AC items from other people and traded them for casino coins at the Recycle Shop.
Oh, right. Totally forgot about that one. I suppose if one is rich enough, they could just get CC through the Recycle Shop rather than just relying on luck at the casino.

branflakes325
Aug 31, 2014, 12:31 PM
What are those items that cost 9k coins? Seriously, why is anything about a jackpot and coin cap important if we don't know what these items are? Unless we do know, in which case I would like to know as well.

Rehal
Aug 31, 2014, 12:39 PM
Change equipment stat type requirement on extend.
Like something to make a sword requires tatk instead of satk.

Rakurai
Sep 1, 2014, 07:52 AM
I find it kind of aggravating that the only reason the Mesetan Shooter game is so unpopular is because of the miniscule possibility of winning the jackpot from the slots.

Overall, it's a far more consistent source of money, and you get PSE bursts more often then you get chance games in the slots if you've got four people (But that's a big if).

On average, the profit you get from a PSE burst at slots is going to be about the same as you would get from a level 1 PSE burst from the shooter, but a level 2 or 3 burst gives far more.

Dragon_Knight
Sep 1, 2014, 10:20 AM
Rakurai- Logic and math goes out the window when gambling and the biggest reason people play the slots instead of the shooter is thus....

"Just keep pushing the button"

No real need to move, only occasionally change the bets its easy enough to supposedly win CC by just whacking one button till the end of time. I have yet to experience that myself, I've tried every strategy that people have told me how to maximize my slot winnings and all that's done is gotten me less CC than I started and an hour and a half of wanting to smack more rappies.

As a side note, on my team people tell me the shooter is the BEST source of CC bar NONE! They wonder why I waste my time at the slots at all when I could form a party and get the shooter game underway. When I do form a party with my teammates to do the shooter game they all plop themselves at the slots and firmly stay there collecting PSE burst after PSE burst. One guy had 3 PSE bursts in less than 30 mins. They still wonder why I can't collect massive amounts of CC. -_-

Maenara
Sep 1, 2014, 10:27 AM
Speculation: When you access slot machines, it tells you the number of bonuses that have been won at that slot machine. Each machine also has a different type of Rappy, and usually have no real differences in the bonus amounts. However, I'm finding some slot machines that have a significantly higher number of bonus wins, and these seem to always have a normal Rappy, instead of lovey, spooky, summer, or frog Rappies. When I play at these machines I feel like I have significantly higher luck than normal. Can anyone give input on this?

JRDeBo
Sep 1, 2014, 10:32 AM
I find it kind of aggravating that the only reason the Mesetan Shooter game is so unpopular is because of the miniscule possibility of winning the jackpot from the slots.

Overall, it's a far more consistent source of money, and you get PSE bursts more often then you get chance games in the slots if you've got four people (But that's a big if).

On average, the profit you get from a PSE burst at slots is going to be about the same as you would get from a level 1 PSE burst from the shooter, but a level 2 or 3 burst gives far more.

I heard it only pays out decent if you have four people playing, is it still profitable with just one person playing? Because that's the only reason I stick to slots.

Daiyousei
Sep 1, 2014, 10:43 AM
Speculation: When you access slot machines, it tells you the number of bonuses that have been won at that slot machine. Each machine also has a different type of Rappy, and usually have no real differences in the bonus amounts. However, I'm finding some slot machines that have a significantly higher number of bonus wins, and these seem to always have a normal Rappy, instead of lovey, spooky, summer, or frog Rappies. When I play at these machines I feel like I have significantly higher luck than normal. Can anyone give input on this?

The rappies do change under some conditions, I've had that happen once.

Maenara
Sep 1, 2014, 11:05 AM
It seems like making a macro to run the Rappy slots would be really easy. All it would need to do is this:
•Bet 1 coin over and over until the meter is at +4.
•Begin betting 5 coins once the meter reaches +4.
•When the meter maxes out, stop attempting to spam and correctly time a press to begin the bonus round.
•Attempt to change the bet back to 1 coin before every single roll during the bonus round - since the bet amount is locked in during those, it does not need to actually identify when the round ends, even if a Rappy PSE Burst happens.

Daiyousei
Sep 1, 2014, 11:30 AM
It's a fairly rare occurence but it's entirely possible to have more than one rappy line, which builds the meter by 2, so if it happens when there's 3, it's an instant rappy chance.

Maenara
Sep 1, 2014, 11:33 AM
Not a lot can be done about that. I've had a Rappy PSE Burst when the bonus round was not going on and the meter was only at +2, locking me in for 1 coin bets the entire round.
The point is, Rappy slots are so predictable that a macro that only does those few things will definitely make money over time.

DJcooltrainer
Sep 1, 2014, 11:48 AM
Speculation: When you access slot machines, it tells you the number of bonuses that have been won at that slot machine. Each machine also has a different type of Rappy, and usually have no real differences in the bonus amounts. However, I'm finding some slot machines that have a significantly higher number of bonus wins, and these seem to always have a normal Rappy, instead of lovey, spooky, summer, or frog Rappies. When I play at these machines I feel like I have significantly higher luck than normal. Can anyone give input on this?

It more than likely has more to do with the number of people playing that machine, rather than the actual odds of each machine.

You ever been to a casino in real life before? If someone hits a big win on a slot machine, you'll see people lining up to use that same machine for hours because it's 'hot' or 'lucky'.

Rakurai
Sep 1, 2014, 02:25 PM
I heard it only pays out decent if you have four people playing, is it still profitable with just one person playing? Because that's the only reason I stick to slots.

You can still make a profit by playing by yourself, as you can usually break even until you get a PSE burst.

silo1991
Sep 1, 2014, 10:39 PM
you know what sega missed with this blackjack/poker. thats classic in any casino theme

Stealthcmc1974
Sep 1, 2014, 11:00 PM
you know what sega missed with this blackjack/poker. thats classic in any casino theme

If Dudu gets wind of this, we'll never have a shot at winning anyway.

Daiyousei
Sep 2, 2014, 03:42 AM
If Dudu gets wind of this, we'll never have a shot at winning anyway.

someone will have to win at poker eventually, Dudu will cheat us out in blackjack though.

Dragon_Knight
Sep 2, 2014, 12:28 PM
someone will have to win at poker eventually, Dudu will cheat us out in blackjack though.

No Dudu will have something set up similar to the rappy slots where he summons Dark Falz to the table and then DF changes hands with you. Have a royal straight flush? Here's a pair of 2s for you. Then just to kick you while you're down Dudu reveals his hand of six (yes SIX) aces. So no, no one has to win eventually. :p

Chik'Tikka
Sep 3, 2014, 12:10 AM
you know what sega missed with this blackjack/poker. thats classic in any casino theme

There are some tables set to the side of the floor that aren't being used for anything ( I yearn for PVP poker)...
Also there's that one shut door+^_^+

Rakurai
Sep 3, 2014, 12:21 AM
I'd welcome more games that involve more then mashing the enter key until you win.

I still can't get over how dumb it is that they made it so you can only win the jackpot from the Rappy Slots, since that allure is what keeps almost everyone playing the slots instead of the Mesetan Shooter, despite the latter being a far more consistent source of income.

Achelousaurus
Sep 3, 2014, 04:01 AM
I'm keeping my passes for now.
Maybe there'll be an event and passes always give max coins.
But the real reason is that I wanna play roulette.
I find it pathetic that Sega didn't even think of implementing some kind of casino basics like that and I probably won't play with anything other than the balloons (they are very fun) until then.

Rakurai
Sep 3, 2014, 05:05 AM
So apparently, after each maintenance, every single slot machine is given a random amount of Rappy meter, meaning you can get some easy chance games by looking for machines with nearly maxed meters.

This has kind of helped put into perspective just how bad the slots are for making money compared to the Mesetan Shooter for me, though. I didn't get more then 300 coins on any of my PSE bursts, and I only get one maybe once out of every five chance games...

It's also confirmed to me that if you get a Rappy stampede, it transforms every single footprint icon into a wild card, which I presume is the key to winning the jackpot.

Ce'Nedra
Sep 3, 2014, 05:16 AM
I'm keeping my passes for now.
Maybe there'll be an event and passes always give max coins.
But the real reason is that I wanna play roulette.
I find it pathetic that Sega didn't even think of implementing some kind of casino basics like that and I probably won't play with anything other than the balloons (they are very fun) until then.

Well it is new so it starts small, I think it was stated somewhere that sega plans to add more/new games later down the line...Which I really hope they do. Slot Machines where never my cup of tea in games that had Casinos, I would love my hand at some Blackjack myself.

Heck even in Lufia Rise of the Sinistrals the big money maker was Poker and they have a Black Jack and Bingo game as well.

Achelousaurus
Sep 3, 2014, 05:50 AM
Yeah.
It's just, casino is hardly new. SEGA honestly needs several more months to add some basic casino games that have been played for centuries or more?

Casino without roulette is like an RPG without bosses.

Shadowkid229
Sep 3, 2014, 07:17 AM
So can someone tell me what those 9000 coin stuff are. From the looks of it. I basically summarized its something for Hunter, Ranger, Force, Braver, Fighter, Gunner, and Techer. I believe the list is in that order. But what are they for.

Rakurai
Sep 3, 2014, 08:09 AM
It changes the required stat for equipping a crafted item to something else.

Shadowkid229
Sep 3, 2014, 05:15 PM
So say i combine it with a 30% stat reduction, would it be a lower change or a higher one?

BIG OLAF
Sep 3, 2014, 06:06 PM
They need to add roulette wheels on the tables in the back, and add blackjack tables where you can play "with" other people, against the house.

Those two things would make the casino perfect for me. Blackjack and roulette are fun as hell.

Lostbob117
Sep 3, 2014, 06:08 PM
Yes, bring back roulette

gigawuts
Sep 3, 2014, 06:12 PM
I still remember randomly finding the casino in PSU and wondering what the fuck Sega had started toking up when they were writing their list of ideas for a sequel to PSO.

Furries, roulette wheels Tom Hanks would feel right at home on, easter bunny diarrhea color palettes, and a story pulled right out of Naruto.

The casino here is better though. I just want better prizes.

edit: We should get dice wired lances, roulette wheel knuckles, card daggers (throw a harmless card every time you slash, some gambit-lookin shit goin on here), a craps dice-getter partisan (I bet this has a real name), uuuuuh

EvilMag
Sep 3, 2014, 06:15 PM
My suggestion for prizes is put in old FUN scratch shit in the list.

ThePendragon
Sep 3, 2014, 06:42 PM
They should add one day premium passes for 30,000CC.

yoshiblue
Sep 3, 2014, 07:02 PM
They can go the way of Shenmue and throw in Gatchapon machines. Start figure collections in your rooms. But most importantly, I want this (http://youtu.be/c3n14yJpF8I). It would be like Mario Party only your stealing coins and the grand prize instead of stars.

Chik'Tikka
Sep 3, 2014, 11:54 PM
I still remember randomly finding the casino in PSU and wondering what the fuck Sega had started toking up when they were writing their list of ideas for a sequel to PSO.

Furries, roulette wheels Tom Hanks would feel right at home on, easter bunny diarrhea color palettes, and a story pulled right out of Naruto.

The casino here is better though. I just want better prizes.

edit: We should get dice wired lances, roulette wheel knuckles, card daggers (throw a harmless card every time you slash, some gambit-lookin shit goin on here), a craps dice-getter partisan (I bet this has a real name), uuuuuh

Called a Craps Dice Stick, usually made from Rattan, though some cheaper unlucky ones are made from plastic or composite woods +^_^+

Daiyousei
Sep 8, 2014, 02:04 PM
Don't take my word for it but I just got 今の運勢は:大吉!! (☆☆☆☆☆) from the vending machine and it was my first drink of the day.

I decided to go on the rappy slots and easily got a rappy burst chance, no burst though. Aside from the easy burst chance, I was getting a line every other spin and plenty of multilines.

Either the drinks do work or it just reflects on your overall luck.

Dark Emerald EXE
Sep 14, 2014, 02:37 PM
So from the times i've gotten a trigger...I could be wrong but this is what I've noticed.
1. Getting a Rappy Burst appears to be completely random on turn 1
2. The only time I've seen it forced Rappy burst regardless what turn it was is when I got 3 Wilds.

Rakurai
Sep 14, 2014, 04:49 PM
I got a Neo PSE burst from the Mesetan Shooter earlier.

It gave me about 2.1K coins in total, as almost all of the coins were gold.

All the more reason why Mesetan Shooter is way better then Rappy Slots for coin making. The jackpot really is the only "advantage" it has over it.

Shinamori
Sep 14, 2014, 04:56 PM
I always lose coins in Mesetan Shooter, even with 4 people. Never get a PSE burst, only burst chances. I usually make my coins back in Rappy Slots.

HeyItsTHK
Sep 14, 2014, 04:56 PM
Right. If you have a group, do meseta shooter.

Rakurai
Sep 14, 2014, 04:59 PM
I honestly make more money from Shooter even when I do it by myself.

I just make it a note to only play in Silver mode if there's a gold or mystery round in the next three waves.

Shadowth117
Sep 14, 2014, 06:11 PM
I always lose coins in Mesetan Shooter, even with 4 people. Never get a PSE burst, only burst chances. I usually make my coins back in Rappy Slots.

I'm just going to point out that there are two categories of games as far as this topic: games of skill and games of chance. Mesetan Shooter is a game of skill which with 4 people and a little luck on what rounds ends up being what. Overall, with a good group you can do very well there so long as you go out of your way to grab the coins. And of course, avoiding bombs does wonders for your coin count too.

Rappy Slots is a game of chance that in the case of this game, unlike normal slots, appears to be weighted to giving a better payout for the player rather than the house over time. Of course, the potential earnings from this are far lower than Mesetan Shooter.

I don't think I need to say anymore here.

TaigaUC
Sep 16, 2014, 07:36 PM
I only really started playing Mesetan Shooter last week.
We immediately had 3-4 Queens and successive bursts in a very short time.

Played it a few times this week. Only seen the Queen twice.
We keep almost reaching burst, then it goes down.
Pretty frustrating.

Still gaining a decent amount of Meseta though, so it's still better than Rappy Slot for me.
I can spend hours on Rappy Slot and if I don't go backwards, I barely go forwards.

Rakurai
Sep 16, 2014, 09:20 PM
Is it just me, or did they nerf the Mesetan Shooter in the latest patch?

There used to be a chance for any of the enemies to drop extra coins/power-ups when defeated (The King Mesetan in particular could drop so many coins that it filled the entire playing field), but I haven't seen that happen once since then.

gigawuts
Sep 16, 2014, 09:22 PM
I noticed the mesetan shooter seemed to pay out more on the first day when I tinkered with it than when I played it a few days ago, but I figured it was a fluke since I only played it like four times.

It wouldn't be at all surprising if Sega launched something else with great rates, then stealthily reduced the rates later on.


Called a Craps Dice Stick, usually made from Rattan, though some cheaper unlucky ones are made from plastic or composite woods +^_^+

It almost bothers me that this is so sensibly named. Thanks for the answer there.

UnLucky
Sep 16, 2014, 09:27 PM
PSO2 JP: Maintenance and Patch (9/10/2014)

Corrected a bug that rarely occurs where extra balls would appear when defeating an enemy in Mesetan Shooter.

Rakurai
Sep 16, 2014, 11:53 PM
That was a bug?

Never would've guessed it, considering that the glitched enemies were actually more durable then the normal ones.

TaigaUC
Sep 17, 2014, 12:59 AM
I asked my knowledgeable JP friend about that bug the other day.
Apparently, the drop from the Queen that triggers PSE Burst could drop multiple times.
But you had to pick all of them up to trigger Burst, or you'd get nothing.

Perhaps I misunderrstood, but it sounded like that was the only problem.
I don't recall seeing a change in number of drops from other enemies.
But it feels like the Queen and Burst are a lot harder to achieve. Could just be luck.

Rakurai
Sep 17, 2014, 01:42 AM
I had that dumb PSE burst glitch.

It dropped four prizes one time, and I was only able to get three of them. It actually said that I had triggered the PSE Burst and won a large amount of coins in the chat, but the moment the one I missed fell, the PSE burst notifier changed to "FAILED" and I wasn't able to pick up any more coins.

But yeah. I'd seen multiple prize drops from every enemy type, and they'd seemingly be more durable proportionately how many additional prizes they had (Though it could've just been lag).

TaigaUC
Sep 17, 2014, 01:56 AM
Oh yeah, we had some nasty lag playing Mesetan Shooter before maintenance.
Stuff wouldn't die. And nothing else spawned while we were trying to finish the immortal stragglers.

The JP friend I was with said, "what'll we do if it's like this when the Queen shows up?" and I was like, "we'll have no choice but to storm Sega HQ."

IndignationSWF
Sep 17, 2014, 02:01 AM
I would love some card games in the casino where you can play with multiple people.

Sanguine2009
Sep 17, 2014, 02:21 AM
i want an pso ep3 style card game in the casino

Steewe
Sep 17, 2014, 02:36 AM
"Lilipan stickers in the casino"

Hello,
this is what I find

http://thegurhalelite.jtkc.org/t154-lilipan-stickers-in-the-casino

Rakurai
Sep 17, 2014, 03:37 AM
After playing over 100 games on a single slot machine without getting a single Rappy meter increase, I think I can say I'm officially done with the slots for good...

_mist
Sep 17, 2014, 04:05 AM
After playing over 100 games on a single slot machine without getting a single Rappy meter increase, I think I can say I'm officially done with the slots for good...

if you were betting 1 coin at a time, good. you didn't lose much. if you were that one guy and decided let's bet at a time....

you only bet 5 once you get 4 meters.

Rakurai
Sep 17, 2014, 05:36 AM
I was only betting five coins while the meter was nearly maxed.

I seriously didn't get a single increase for that long.

EDIT: On a side note, getting a Neo PSE Burst from the Mesetan Shooter awards you with five 250% rare drop boosters from the associated title.