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Chdata
Aug 29, 2014, 03:13 AM
So what are the new casting bases class combinations / gimmicks?

Is it now (more) viable to use whatever element you want, or even specialize in two elements... or three?

I managed to post this in the wrong section, but oh well.

Sizustar
Aug 29, 2014, 03:24 AM
So what are the new casting bases class combinations / gimmicks?

Is it now (more) viable to use whatever element you want, or even specialize in two elements... or three?

I managed to post this in the wrong section, but oh well.

With Te as sub, you have enough SP to actually specialize in 2 element,

For Fo, it is possible to get point into 2 Element, or 1 element with point into T-atk(High) and some Photon Burst

Il Megid is weaker, but still one of the better range AOE spell.

But currently, it makes more sense to bring element set and spell that the area is weak to.

Chdata
Aug 29, 2014, 03:27 AM
good thing I have 10 FO skill trees

(10=3)

UnLucky
Aug 29, 2014, 03:31 AM
Force has too many good skills to bother with multiple elements

Techer, well, if you really want the 50 T-Atk I guess you still can't get two elements, but I'd rather save a skill tree or get a bit more versatility going

Although Fo/Fi is ridiculously strong now, and Fo/Br got a buff too

Sizustar
Aug 29, 2014, 03:50 AM
good thing I have 10 FO skill trees

(10=3)

You should get some more Te skill tree too, to be able to mix and match.

Te/Fo is also a viable play style with the change to wand gear.

Along with ELS possible gaining the most benefit, with the ability to now max Wind/Dark, and then go Ice on Fo...

Chdata
Aug 29, 2014, 03:54 AM
I also have 3 TE trees

What's ELS

Element Leek Stance?

HeyItsTHK
Aug 29, 2014, 03:56 AM
You should get some more Te skill tree too, to be able to mix and match.

Te/Fo is also a viable play style with the change to wand gear.

Along with ELS possible gaining the most benefit, with the ability to now max Wind/Dark, and then go Ice on Fo...

Hah this is what I plan to do.

Sizustar
Aug 29, 2014, 04:01 AM
I also have 3 TE trees

What's ELS

Element Leek Stance?

Elysion Wand - エリュシオン
It's potentional is to have it cast uncharged tech at 100% power.

It's a different style of play.
With people using
Wind - Sazan, Il zan
Dark - Namegid
Ice - Il Barta, Na Barta


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Alma
Aug 29, 2014, 04:06 AM
agreed with shizu said above,
ELS FO/ TE with wind/ice/dark mastery build is still solid on ep3.

UnLucky
Aug 29, 2014, 04:12 AM
Don't think I've seen it called ELS before, makes it seem like an acronym for something

But Te/Fo melee is still pretty bad, especially with Elysion. Te/Hu, Te/Fi, or Te/Br would be way stronger for that.

And with a bit of S-Atk you can equip it as Fo/Te or Fo/Fi or Fo/Br for extra jokes

Chdata
Aug 29, 2014, 04:14 AM
Oh yeah I played ely spam pre-EP3 too.

Kiydon
Aug 29, 2014, 04:39 AM
Lightning actually is pretty good now, too. And since there are more non-zondeel options for gathering enemies (I've seen people use gravity point, gravity bomb), zondeel bursting is less of an issue. Plus it costs like virtually no PP.

landman
Aug 29, 2014, 04:44 AM
I didn't know NaBarta had that effect on Elysion...

I have yet to change any skill tree, and what I see is that every element deals huge damage to enemies, I remember with fire mastery dealing 15k on some weak points, now with only the minimal fire mastery I hit 20k (Foie), that's insane, and more or less the same with other techs and elements. I have 2 trees for FO and TE, and I think I will save one TE tree for possible BO combinations.

Also, instead of 50T-atk, wouldn't it be more worth to have 10 extra PP on the TE tree?

Chdata
Aug 29, 2014, 04:51 AM
Depends on your items I guess, I already have like 50 PP on my units.

ShinMaruku
Aug 31, 2014, 03:15 AM
I need to start investing in pp 130 pp is too low now since I 1 shot too few things now. How are you forces coping on the new area? I am struggling a bit with there on my force.

.Jack
Aug 31, 2014, 03:26 AM
I'm still using the same Ilmegid spam & Ilbarta for boss as before. Before the nerf if you used the PP craft you can just change to power craft lvl3 and you will be doing similar damage. Still hitting 10k on almost anything 15k+ on dark weak using the same gear.

Sizustar
Aug 31, 2014, 03:36 AM
Here's a Fo/Fi that deals 590k Ilbarta in Ep.3 on the 7th cast
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24352365

Current trend for Ice Els is, Fo/Fi
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24346296

But normal play Fo/Te, it's using Zondeel to gather mob, then use the element spell on the are the enemy is weak to.

UnLucky
Aug 31, 2014, 03:39 AM
Fo/Fi is nothing but stronger now in Ep3, so I'm not surprised they wouldn't feel the Ilbarta nerf at all.

landman
Aug 31, 2014, 04:01 AM
I need to start investing in pp 130 pp is too low now since I 1 shot too few things now. How are you forces coping on the new area? I am struggling a bit with there on my force.
Namegid the heads and cores on the big ones and zondeel + gimegid for everything else. Sometimes I gimegid heads and cores if the enemy is not moving, but I end up doing it faster with namegid than waiting for an opportunity.

What I have no idea is how to deal with the boss, and have not even managed to break the mask (I think I deal zero damage).

ShinMaruku
Aug 31, 2014, 11:44 AM
Namegid the heads and cores on the big ones and zondeel + gimegid for everything else. Sometimes I gimegid heads and cores if the enemy is not moving, but I end up doing it faster with namegid than waiting for an opportunity.

What I have no idea is how to deal with the boss, and have not even managed to break the mask (I think I deal zero damage).

Boss is easy, break his foot, then attack center, then you can attack his head.

oratank
Aug 31, 2014, 12:12 PM
you can lock his belly orb from the first place

landman
Aug 31, 2014, 03:12 PM
Yeah and I've beaten him breaking foots and chest, then attacking the chest, but the head always seemed to have a wonda shield song. I'll try again next time.

jcart953
Aug 31, 2014, 04:45 PM
Here's a Fo/Fi that deals 590k Ilbarta in Ep.3 on the 7th cast
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24352365

Current trend for Ice Els is, Fo/Fi
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24346296

But normal play Fo/Te, it's using Zondeel to gather mob, then use the element spell on the are the enemy is weak to.

Lol 200pp wow first time I saw that .

Bellion
Aug 31, 2014, 09:30 PM
[SPOILER-BOX]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mck7pVbNOBw[/SPOILER-BOX]

Yeah, okay.
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Alma
Aug 31, 2014, 09:37 PM
ya, power craft nabarta with ELS is ridiculous now
caterdran, vol, meduna, rodos, hunar... nabarta literally demolish them.

Rakurai
Sep 6, 2014, 07:18 AM
I don't know if it always had this property, but the fact that Megid seems to prioritize hitting weak points against most enemies makes it really good for dealing with the larger Harukotan enemies.

Sa Megid is the only dark tech I'm having trouble finding much of a use for now, since Il Megid, Megid, and Ra Megid are all better for AoE, and Na Megid is better if you need to hit one target from a distance.