Height Advantage

[kingdanny]

I noticed my Fi/Hu, who is short at 147cm, gets missed by certain boss moves like Rockbear's swings, and my taller character at I think 183cm would get hit by them. Anyone know the height point where it starts missing?

[Hrith]

Stopped reading at '147 cm'.

[NoiseHERO]

Taller people have bigger attack boxes too tho.

[kingdanny]

Stopped reading at '147 cm'.

Thanks for your useful comment.
Sarcasm is the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

[Chdata]

The leader of Goron shoots the strange bird, till when?

[Nitro Vordex]

I noticed my loli gets missed by certain boss moves like Rockbear's swings, and my taller character at I think 183cm would get hit by them. Anyone know the height point where it starts missing?
Fixed.

[HeyItsTHK]

loli loli loli, life is but a story.

anyway can't confirm or deny, I always make tall characters. Always.

[Kondibon]

Is this a thing? I've never noticed it. But then again, all my characters are short.

[Jaqlou Swig KING]

Yes, it's similar to how on the opposite end of the spectrum, if you have a very tall character who also has long arms, PAs where you throw your weapon will travel farther than those who are shorter/have shorter arms. Deadly Archer is a prime example, shorter characters have less positioning to do with the uncharged variation, while taller characters can throw the charged version from half a grid block away and hit things, but have different positioning for the uncharged variation.

[isCasted]

Well, there were many talks about how Deadly Archer depends on character's height. Another thing for Bow Bravers is ability to skim through multiple mobs' heads with Penetrating Arrow.

[Kondibon]

Well that's pretty cool I guess... Maybe. I dunno.

[Nikoshae]

Nikoshae is as short as you can get for a male, and I have noticed he gets missed by a lot of attacks ... unless I pull a dumb and jump into it or something. Or if I get up close and in their face they sometimes have trouble hitting me, because I'm too small, and too close for them to do anything to me. But, once again, then there are those times when I pull a dumb ... lol

[cheeto]

I can confirm that max height and weight Cast do not work well with Turrets, there is a Bal Rodos in this pic somewhere, and also it feels like a nightmare trying to avoid lasers in Lilipa TA

[SPOILER-BOX]http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/3472349/pics/original/2389889.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

They are very good at hogging all the camera spotlight in the end of Falz EQ's though.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/3472349/pics/original/2812241.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[NoiseHERO]

I can confirm that max height and weight Cast do not work well with Turrets, there is a Bal Rodos in this pic somewhere, and also it feels like a nightmare trying to avoid lasers in Lilipa TA

[SPOILER-BOX]http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/3472349/pics/original/2389889.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

They are very good at hogging all the camera spotlight in the end of Falz EQ's though.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/3472349/pics/original/2812241.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

/choking on cereal

[Rakurai]

Isn't it also possible to avoid attacks by using certain lobby actions?

[BIG OLAF]

183cm ain't tall.

[Sandmind]

Isn't it also possible to avoid attacks by using certain lobby actions?

I believe someone had a screenshoot with one of the /LA bed1-2 where some mob type just kept swinging the air above the character. Couldn't swing down to save their faces.

[Jaqlou Swig KING]

183cm ain't tall.

Literally no one in this thread said that. Unless you somehow managed to comprehend OP saying his taller character at 183cm somehow equates to claiming that as tall.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I believe someone had a screenshoot with one of the /LA bed1-2 where some mob type just kept swinging the air above the character. Couldn't swing down to save their faces.
Hello

[TaigaUC]

One thing that bugs me about tall characters is how their movement animations are slowed down to match the distance covered, so they run really slowly.


..
Oh, so you're Crazy Taxi too. Figures.

[Ordy]

Height Advantage always bothered me.

I keep thinking that my char (175cm) would headshot Pendrans more often with auto-aimed Diffuse Shell if she was a loli. I feel like tall characters' auto-aim grabs the tail first because it'd be closer?

[spoiler-box]http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ronte_con/imgs/2/8/28cb6241.jpg[/spoiler-box]

[UnLucky]

Min-maxing sliders, the never ending debate between lolis and giants on who is most disturbing.

[Kondibon]

I kinda wish things like this were mentioned somewhere when creating your character. Vindictus is nice enough to tell you what your height effects, and I don't see why it would be hard to explain that your character size effects your hit box.

Unless it's unintended, in which case lol.

Also, not directly related, but this thread reminded me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNLNxHrq3mw

[strikerhunter]

Height Advantage always bothered me.

I keep thinking that my char (175cm) would headshot Pendrans more often with auto-aimed Diffuse Shell if she was a loli. I feel like tall characters' auto-aim grabs the tail first because it'd be closer?

[spoiler-box]http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ronte_con/imgs/2/8/28cb6241.jpg[/spoiler-box]

I've noticed this as well. My shorty cast doesn't auto-aim for pendran's tail whereas my other characters do. This also goes for some other bosses/mobs such as Rockbear and and Dirandals.

[Walkure]

Apparently something changed about Deadly Archer in Episode 3:

(Tall far, short stature throw near) distance varies depending on the height, because there are not exposed to PC and PC to hit when you activate this effect by close contact. (The height difference be no relationship from EP3)

身長によって飛距離が変化する(高身長は遠く、低身長は近くに投げる)ため、密着して発動すると当たるPC と当たらないPCがいる。 (EP3からは身長差関係ないかも) Looks like that difference got removed? Cool I guess, although now Dead Archer is only really particularly useful for breaking funji and hitting Wonda/King Yede weakpoints on a Brave-only FI build.


Min-maxing sliders, the never ending debate between lolis and giants on who is most disturbing.
(´•ω•`)

[gigawuts]

the head to eye ratio isn't nearly as disturbing on giants

seriously it's like 1:1 on some characters

these people think they're playing sonic the hedge hog or something

[Walkure]

Generally:
The problem with giant characters is head/shoulder width ratios being too small. You can kinda fix this by going more lower-bodied.
The problem with small characters is head/torso ratios have the head being way too large, and the neck too small. You can kinda fix this by adding character width in general.

For some reason, I seem to crash whenever I try to fiddle with sliders in the Este Shop whenever there's an emergency quest going on, so I'm not going to try revisiting that for now.

[Ayanamirenko]

Never noticed, all my characters are 140cm

[Maenara]

Min-maxing sliders, the never ending debate between lolis and giants on who is most disturbing.

Wide hip master race.

[BIG OLAF]

Min-maxing sliders, the never ending debate between lolis and giants on who is most disturbing.


Wide hip master race.

Well, here's the pilots of two very disturbing characters right now, y'know. :wacko:

[SakuRei]

Dunno if height matters in some hit box things or such since I kinda time (sometimes) the milisecond/s dash invincibility during a monster's attack. And I'm kinda using the moderate or standard height on my characters. (Around 145~160 cm)

[Schubalts]

Well, here's the pilots of two very disturbing characters right now, y'know. :wacko:

Ahem.

[Punisher106]

The height hitbox thing was always around in the PS series. Shorter characters tend to be able to avoid some attacks just by standing (Me on my FOnewm in ruins, laugh as Belras shoot their arms over my head while I pick them off with Grants). Larger characters, however, have a longer attack hitbox, which allows a small advantage of range. So short characters shouldn't really use melee weapons.

[Achelousaurus]

And I thought enemies/bosses just have terrible aim sometimes.
I'm not even tiny, just 157cm and they still sometimes miss.

[saraishadow]

157 cm is 5'1

[UnLucky]

and 183 cm is 6'

I don't think the ARKS have their own basketball team

unless Jet Boots are tourny legal

[gigawuts]

The height hitbox thing was always around in the PS series. Shorter characters tend to be able to avoid some attacks just by standing (Me on my FOnewm in ruins, laugh as Belras shoot their arms over my head while I pick them off with Grants). Larger characters, however, have a longer attack hitbox, which allows a small advantage of range. So short characters shouldn't really use melee weapons.

Yup, I knew someone who played a minimum height FOmar specifically because Chaos Bringers couldn't hit him that way.

[Hrith]

the head to eye ratio isn't nearly as disturbing on giants

seriously it's like 1:1 on some characters

these people think they're playing Sonic the hedgehog or somethingYeah, I think it's because the default eyes are quite big and people do not bother changing them. You can make the eyes look totally RL-sized: http://i.imgur.com/4j943wM.jpg

[gigawuts]

Yeah, I think it's because the default eyes are quite big and people do not bother changing them. You can make the eyes look totally RL-sized: http://i.imgur.com/4j943wM.jpg

Wait, is that a short character?

That actually looks really good.

[Xaeris]

and 183 cm is 6'

I don't think the ARKS have their own basketball team

unless Jet Boots are tourny legal

FI/BO + jet boots + Surprise Dunk = Michael Jordan

Well, maybe more like Michelle Jordan, considering our population.

[GoldenFalcon]

and 183 cm is 6'

I don't think the ARKS have their own basketball team
Hey, I'm like 6'4

so my characters always are

[BIG OLAF]

Hey, I'm like 6'4

so my characters always are

Same, and I also like to have them reflect that. Well, I like them to be even taller, especially the ladies.

I heard someone say once that tall women are like sculptures, like works of art. So enigmatic, gorgeous, and made to be looked upon in awe and splendor. I have to agree with him, at least as far as games like this go.

Then, you have the dumpy, shit-midget lolis. Dis-gusting.

EDIT:

For (http://i.imgur.com/q9lS2kV.jpg) your (http://i.imgur.com/TmJYGFy.jpg) health (http://i.imgur.com/cWe6udm.png).

Seriously, what are these folks thinking?

Okay, tangent over. Proceed.

[Edson Drake]

EDIT:

For (http://i.imgur.com/q9lS2kV.jpg) your (http://i.imgur.com/TmJYGFy.jpg) health (http://i.imgur.com/cWe6udm.png).



Ahhhhh! Kill it with fire until it dies!

[Nitro Vordex]

EDIT:

For (http://i.imgur.com/q9lS2kV.jpg) your (http://i.imgur.com/TmJYGFy.jpg) health (http://i.imgur.com/cWe6udm.png).

Seriously, what are these folks thinking?

Okay, tangent over. Proceed.
that first one

she's gonna mangle your flock

[GoldenFalcon]

I do have a problem when there's no white in their eyes...

[Vetur]

I never really noticed, but it makes sense if it is true.
I have characters ranging from minimum height(shota, mind you), and 190cm/6'2".
I do notice that being higher up has advantages for ranged attacks usually though, which has given me the habit of releasing techs/shooting in midair. Especially things like Vol Dragon's top horn.

By the way, does anyone know if the "Sneak Shooter" crouch animation makes your hit-box any shorter?
Also sorry if it's off-topic, but does and ranger know if Sneak Shooter's animation counts against the "Standing Snipe" skill?

[Rakurai]

Sneak Shooter does let you go under attacks.

The crawling animation cancels out Standing Snipe, however.

[UnLucky]

If you mean just the crouch animation by tapping the button, you absolutely can get Standing Snipe with Sneak Shooter. It's one of the better ones to use with it, actually, since it lasts long enough to combo into either itself or another PA like Homing Emission and get the bonus without waiting around.

[Vetur]

Oh, cool. :o I did notice about half the time it did let me avoid getting smacked around like a pancake, though the other half, well I wonder if it's just lag or the hit-box of their attack being too big. xD

[GoldenFalcon]

If you mean just the crouch animation by tapping the button, you absolutely can get Standing Snipe with Sneak Shooter. It's one of the better ones to use with it, actually, since it lasts long enough to combo into either itself or another PA like Homing Emission and get the bonus without waiting around.
Eh, I got into the habit of stopping, doing 2 normal shots, and then spamming Pierce Shell with the standing snipe bonus

such topic

[saraishadow]

I find it amusing how you people think anything under 6 foot is a midget loli

[Walkure]

For reference, average height for women in Japan would be like 158, for men 171. And height distribution is basically a normal distribution, albeit with bigger tails.

Really the only country where 200cm would be less standard deviations away than 140cm for women would be the Netherlands.

[Nitro Vordex]

I find it amusing how you people think anything under 6 foot is a midget loli
Who is "you people"?

If you actually saw the people in game, you'd see a lot of them are megafuckshort.