PSO2 Live Broadcast Nº26

[Manta Oyamada]

Date: November 18th @ 20:00 JST


December update information.
Live playthrough of the Naberius Ultimate Quest.
Arks X-Mas Party Information.
New Phantasy Star Nova information.
More information about Phantasy Star Online 2 -ON STAGE-.
Unveiling of PSO2’s new opening video.


Link 1: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv199630547

Link 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVoF2izsfmY

-----------------------------New Videos--------------------------------

【PSO2】 大型アップデート第2弾「世壊の刻、禍津の刻」Part2

http://youtu.be/SFB7yFAqeB8?list=UUF2OmH84XcsvRkgFTsIgAjA


【PSO2】新オープニング

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJjWWyHbjZQ&list=UUF2OmH84XcsvRkgFTsIgAjA


‪【PSO2】 大型アップデート第2弾「世壊の刻、禍津の刻」Part3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAx9N7vQBQQ&feature=youtu.be

[gigawuts]

Oooh, the playthrough and x-mas stuff might be neat.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

We should make a drinking game out of the playthrough; take a drink for every scape doll used.

We will all require new livers shortly after.

[lostinseganet]

i love intros. Sega usually delivers in this department

[wefwq]

Aw shiet UQ playthrough, cant wait for many scapedoll and female host screaming being beaten to death by ultimate enemies.

[Manta Oyamada]

......

[pkemr4]

......

......?

[Shinamori]

That's about 7am EST, right?

[SakoHaruo]

Space bodysuits.


I'm getting all hot and bothered just thinking about it. It will be my final purchase.

All my waifus gonna rock that shit till death!

[Poyonche]

"December update information ?"


What I read : "More information on Magatsu"

[Shinamori]

I wonder what wave of TD they're gonna play in the background. They seem pretty found of the 4th wave.:-P

[Poyonche]

Too bad I'll be on school when it is scheduled. :c

[lostinseganet]

Too bad I'll be on school when it is scheduled. :cSKIP! :)

[infiniteeverlasting]

Too bad I'll be on school when it is scheduled. :c

You know what to do, skip, get a suspension-- worth it.

[Vintasticvin]

You know what to do, skip, get a suspension-- worth it.

Aaaand depending on where you live get your parents fined for you skipping.... Yeah, totally worth it :no:

[Vampy]

Fake being sick >.> But you didn't hear that from me.

[BubblyBoar]

Don't skip school. School is important. You can always re-watch the recap and see the info after. Would be silly to skip just for a broadcast.

PS. These peeps obviously joking.

[Vampy]

Who said I was? (Yes I was)

Now really just hoping they show promising content like the last few streams.

[Vintasticvin]

Who said I was? (Yes I was)

Now really just hoping they show promising content like the last few streams.

>_> I just wanna know what costumes are coming out cause you know.... Gotta give the people new content :P Course I'm interested in seeing other things that interest me aside from Phasion.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

I want to see if the highly specific hairstyle i always wanted, but shocked it isn't in the game yet will come out. Also hoping they didn't waste time and effort making another set of seasonal clothes; That kind of stuff gets tacky fast.

[Sizustar]

Live broadcast starting soon~

[Flaoc]

just gonna bump this cause of the bot spam

[Kondibon]

Patiently waiting for people to start complaining about those girls' voices.
http://i.imgur.com/jeRIpxv.gif

[Vent]

Anyone got stream link?

[Kondibon]

There's two on the first page.

[Xaelouse]

Dude

It's right in the first post

Like, right there

[Maenara]

Patiently waiting for people to start complaining about those girls' voices.
http://i.imgur.com/jeRIpxv.gif

Plot twist: Somebody complains about your's instead. Directed by Shyamalan.

[Kondibon]

lol@ people trying to vote on youtube.


Plot twist: Somebody complains about your's instead. Directed by Shyamalan.People have, so that's not really a plot twist.

[Maenara]

Plot twist plot twist: They were actually complaining about someone else's voices those previous time(s). Directed by Shyamalan.

[Xaeris]

Watching people try to talk about game balance on YouTube makes me wish I could still muster up the fucks needed to tell them they're wrong. Alas. I am old.

[Kondibon]

Watching people try to talk about game balance on YouTube makes me wish I could still muster up the fucks needed to tell them they're wrong. Alas. I am old.I was hoping someone would be translating stuff but I'll just read that here, I can't put up with that youtube chat...

EDIT: Those punk outfits look neat, but I'm only really looking forward to kurisumasu 3 for rare banthers.

[oratank]

rappy fried chicken mag

[Sizustar]

http://i.imgur.com/tQfXM7z.jpg

[Laxedrane]

That... Santa? Outfit.. I... Just don't know... I like the top.. I like the bottom... But TOGETHER!? I am not sure how I feel about it. I like the punkish outfits though, a lot.

[Dugs]

Oh boy, extra hard version of TD1 and Fang Banther quest!

... is there a less popular eq?

[Maenara]

How long until the interesting shit?

[Laxedrane]

Oh boy, extra hard version of TD1 and Fang Banther quest!

... is there a less popular eq?

I think they are doing it on purpose just so people will play it again.XD It's not to bad last time I did it with a friend for shits and giggles banther spawned with a vengeance!

That and what other extra hard forest EQ can they give?

[oratank]

That... Santa? Outfit.. I... Just don't know... I like the top.. I like the bottom... But TOGETHER!? I am not sure how I feel about it. I like the punkish outfits though, a lot.


don't worry you can buy white santa

[Xaelouse]

Only one SeHa girl tho

[Superia]

Those Nova bosses look legit.

[Kondibon]

Looks like they're starting the Ultimate run

EDIT: Even THEY have pure mags, FFS...

[cheapgunner]

So the bird dragon boss has an unit set and those wings. ._.

Need Ultimate nao....

[Kondibon]

I can't wait to see them get wrecked.

EDIT: They killed the boss and I didn't see anything that indicated it's resistances changed, and they actually knocked it down the first time pretty quickly. I don't think that mechanic is going to be at all relevant to normal players.

[Sizustar]

http://i.imgur.com/RoEmH9D.png
http://i.imgur.com/zGW2m6c.jpg

[Shinamori]

What's yami's latent?

[Kondibon]

That zandeon fail...

http://i.imgur.com/RoEmH9D.png
http://i.imgur.com/zGW2m6c.jpg
I guess this answers the question of whether or not 13*s can have elements.

[Xaeris]

Those are 12*s.

On a side note, I'm lol'ing at how those malmoths put up 10x a better fight than Anga whathisface.

[Atmius]

Except every rare in that picture is 11* or 12*.

[Kondibon]

Those are 12*s.Derp, my bad. :wacko:

[Rien]

Bikini swim wear replica for sale

I don't even

[Sizustar]

What's the growth of Lv.16 PA vs. Lv.17 PA?

[Rakurai]

I can't wait to see them get wrecked.

EDIT: They killed the boss and I didn't see anything that indicated it's resistances changed, and they actually knocked it down the first time pretty quickly. I don't think that mechanic is going to be at all relevant to normal players.

I wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed the boss so they could actually kill it, since they've nerfed the quests for them in the past.

It's also possible that it gradually gets tougher to beat each time it's defeated.


What's the growth of Lv.16 PA vs. Lv.17 PA?

They have a noticeable damage increase. Starling Fall at least gained about 10% more damage.

[saraishadow]

Probably nerfed it after what happened with the Luther Live stream lol

[cheapgunner]

Yeah, the stats on that boss was mostly likely nerfed. They are gonna troll more than half the user base when we actually fight it and it starts dropping bodies left and right. That and they were more than likely running with tank builds seeing that their damage was pitiful...

[Selphea]

What's the growth of Lv.16 PA vs. Lv.17 PA?

Dispersion gained 5%, Kestrel gained close to 10%.


Yeah, the stats on that boss was mostly likely nerfed. They are gonna troll more than half the user base when we actually fight it and it starts dropping bodies left and right. That and they were more than likely running with tank builds seeing that their damage was pitiful...

Yea I didn't see any stances on their hotbar. I missed a part so did the Bouncer ninja-activate a stance?

[Raujinn]

The ultimarmots are ferocious, that was great.

[rashoood]

yes lol i think he had the stances in another pallete and he activated guard stance halfway if i am not mistaken. XD

the question is, whats the potential of that katana? :P

[Selphea]

yes lol i think he had the stances in another pallete and he activated guard stance halfway if i am not mistaken. XD

the question is, whats the potential of that katana? :P

Whaaaa not even any of the Bouncer stances? :-o

[rashoood]

Whaaaa not even any of the Bouncer stances? :-o

not sure it was very fast but I caught the guard stance because he did mention "gado stansu" and quickly switched pallete and then switched back :P

[Selphea]

Anyway it looks like a new potential on the Katana. I could barely make out "闇の" for the middle two characters and there's no match on Swiki's potentials list.

[Sizustar]

http://i.imgur.com/frY2tLP.jpg

Next anime collab...still no Log Horizon = =;
http://i.imgur.com/4SCkGRm.jpg

[Aine]

Yamigarasu potential is Fighter's Tech Arts JA Bonus.

[rashoood]

Yamigarasu potential is Fighter's Tech Arts JA Bonus.

oh and whats the percentage of increase?

[Aine]

It's not written in the description so we don't know yet.

[Shinamori]

That's not what I was hoping...

[Kondibon]

MRW I look back at the stream and see stage play info.
http://i.imgur.com/gpP9A03.gif

[Raujinn]

http://i.imgur.com/frY2tLP.jpg


What is this slide about? If it's a before and after with class populations then that shrink in Bravers lol

[Sizustar]

What is this slide about?

The % of class that people play as.

[Selphea]

Class demographics of lv60 and above players on 29th October during peak period.

[Dnd]

So fighters are still lowest representation of the classes... yay i play dying breeds still /o/

So that boot PA.. hit for ~68k on the live stream?
I called that months ago that boots get a pretty insane powered PA to make up for lack of boss killing, I also await people suddenly jumping to boots and thinking they are great..

i hate being right

[KuroNeko77]

So Chainsword is getting Elder Pain's potential, while the new blades get the same as Flame Visit (Brave Stance Boost).

[Arada]

TE is least played.

[Raujinn]

I'm not too surprised as I remember the lobbys back then being a sea of katanas and being happy I seem to see more variation these days.

[Selphea]

So fighters are still lowest representation of the classes... yay i play dying breeds still /o/

So that boot PA.. hit for ~68k on the live stream?
I called that months ago that boots get a pretty insane powered PA to make up for lack of boss killing, I also await people suddenly jumping to boots and thinking they are great..

i hate being right

They're not dying, they're more like, high society :p Expensive to get Add Classes and max Extends but once you do that you're officially an upper class socialite or something. *cue sparkles*

[jooozek]

did they play the ultimate quest yet?

[Rakurai]

The new jet boots PA seems to scale its damage based on how much gear gauge you have when you use it, as it only did a wimpy 7K with no gear on another instance that it was used.

Curious to see how hard it'll hit when I use it, considering that it did that much when used by someone with a less then ideal build and gear.

[Xaelouse]

did they play the ultimate quest yet?

got rekt by new de malmoths

[Sizustar]

did they play the ultimate quest yet?

They already played through it.

[KuroNeko77]

did they play the ultimate quest yet?

Yeah, but they stopped before the end of the quest so we didn't see much.

[Kondibon]

So Chainsword is getting Elder Pain's potential,http://i.imgur.com/xtpnSmql.jpg


So fighters are still lowest representation of the classes... yay i play dying breeds still /o/

So that boot PA.. hit for ~68k on the live stream?
I called that months ago that boots get a pretty insane powered PA to make up for lack of boss killing, I also await people suddenly jumping to boots and thinking they are great..

i hate being rightIt's probably not spammable, since the damage is probably based off how much gear you have and it drains it each time. I mean... I would hope. It just takes 2 tech casts to fill it again so...


The new jet boots PA seems to scale its damage based on how much gear gauge you have when you use it, as it only did a wimpy 7K with no gear on another instance that it was used.

Curious to see how hard it'll hit when I use it, considering that it did that much when used by someone with a less then ideal build and gear.

To put this in perspective he was barely doing 2k with strike gust. I do more than that as a Te/Bo... It could be argued that ultimate mobs have high resistance or defense but if he was really using guard stance it's gonna be insane on pure damage builds.

[Selphea]

The new jet boots PA seems to scale its damage based on how much gear gauge you have when you use it, as it only did a wimpy 7K with no gear on another instance that it was used.

Curious to see how hard it'll hit when I use it, considering that it did that much when used by someone with a less then ideal build and gear.

it hit 40k on a build with Strike Geist hitting for 22k, so roughly 18 times your Strike Geist hit maybe?

I wonder what will happen if you pop Rapid Boost with JA Bonus and combine with Chain Trigger and High Time...

[Rakurai]

I just realized that in order to get the level 17 discs for a lot of the PAs, it's going to mean waiting for a EQ, then hoping you encounter the rare version of the desired boss/enemy, then hoping it drops the disc.

I foresee myself getting RNG screwed badly.

[Shinamori]

I'm guess it's a random drop for the PAs. and I wouldn't be surprised to see them drop in UQs

[Superia]

Where is that last place with the cherry blossoms they showed?

Edit: Actually, forget about that. Where do I fight Falz Kaiju?

[Kondibon]

Where is that last place with the cherry blossoms they showed?

Edit: Actually, forget about that. Where do I fight Falz Kaiju?New team room.


Magtsu aren't falz, they're Kuronians or something.

[Raujinn]

They added a beard! Glorious.

[Superia]

New team room.


Magtsu aren't falz, they're Kuronians or something.

Magtsu is that really really tall one with the pauldrons extra heads that they got on buildings to fight?

[redroses]

Uah, seems the time of new cast parts is over again. I hate all this collab shit, give me more pso2 outfits!

New team room is beautiful, need that falcon on shoulder accessory, the giant kuronian is to spoopy for me.

[Kondibon]

Magtsu is that really really tall one with the pauldrons extra heads that they got on buildings to fight?I menat magatsu but I don't even remember if that's what it's called. Either way, yes, that's what I'm talking about.

[Ordy]

Uah, seems the time of new cast parts is over again. I hate all this collab shit, give me more pso2 outfits!

New team room is beautiful, need that falcon on shoulder accessory, the giant kuronian is to spoopy for me.

I think the falcon is a mag

[Xaelouse]

new dual blade PAs where

[Kondibon]

new dual blade PAs whereThere isn't one, Not all the weapons got new PAs.

[Ordy]

Keyword: オラたろう

[Azelyra]

オラたろう

By the way. Secret Phrase.

[TaigaUC]

That new team room looks great. I was expecting a Harukotan-themed room at some point, but I didn't expect them to make it so much better.
Can't wait to get it.

[Arialle]

new opening cinematic seems underwhelming as compared to mine base...

but the CG and chereography is nicer

[Sizustar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJMYg2hpmXk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJMYg2hpmXk

[GoldGenII]

Mm... spacesuits look promising. Especially the Medic one. ;o

Guys get dat Voltron Suit

[Achelousaurus]

Dude

It's right in the first post

Like, right there
One is nico and the other one got removed by the user.

[isCasted]

One is nico and the other one got removed by the user.

Because it was over long ago.

[Sizustar]

http://i.imgur.com/CXImSp1.png

[The Walrus]

Has anyone found a recording of the part when they played the UQ at all?

I slept in and missed it >.>

[Ezodagrom]

Has anyone found a recording of the part when they played the UQ at all?

I slept in and missed it >.>
Starting at 31:30:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1M8oB8ykQQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syO3ezWKjlA

[The Walrus]

Thank you

[Bellion]

http://i.imgur.com/CXImSp1.png

Wow, a great crafted old arm unit!! Looks like the Diabo set is a 2 piece, maybe. Heiremjees shield might be worth keeping, who knows.

[LonelyGaruga]

So fighters are still lowest representation of the classes... yay i play dying breeds still /o/

No, Techer is (7%, Fighter and Gunner are 8%). Techer has been the lowest in each of these representations. Never Fighter. Fighter actually has more people playing it than the previous poll. Though Gunner players took a major hit, which isn't very surprising with all the rebalance attempts.

Pretty disappointed to see that Techer is still the least played class when it's extremely good right now. I thought it really would get a lot more representation after EP3 hit but it seems it really is a sleeper hit.

[Sizustar]

No, Techer is (7%, Fighter and Gunner are 8%). Techer has been the lowest in each of these representations. Never Fighter. Fighter actually has more people playing it than the previous poll. Though Gunner players took a major hit, which isn't very surprising with all the rebalance attempts.

Pretty disappointed to see that Techer is still the least played class when it's extremely good right now. I thought it really would get a lot more representation after EP3 hit but it seems it really is a sleeper hit.

It jumped from 4% to 7% though.

[LonelyGaruga]

That's still tiny.

Though, looking at it again, that's the most significant increase in player % out of all the classes. Force and Ranger are the only other classes that have more people playing them than the time of the previous poll.

Still...expected more people playing it. Certainly more than Fighter or Gunner. And Bravers and Bouncers being the most common class...

EDIT: Oh wait, Fighter went up too. Techer gained 2.7%, Fighter gained 2.6%. Well, never mind, that completely detracts from the increase in Techer players, since there are plenty more Fighter players too, and Fighter isn't really in a good spot right now. Don't think Fi/Bos are making that big of a difference in population size.

[Ordy]

8% Fighter .. more like 8% FiBo/FiHu 0% Fi

and these 11* units (360) have higher def stats at +10 than max extended units (336)

[Infinity Series]

8% Fighter .. more like 8% FiBo/FiHu 0% Fi

and these 11* units (360) have higher def stats at +10 than max extended units (336)

345 def actually, dont forget ability 3

[Rakurai]

Well, now I'm glad I didn't go all out with affixing a Saiki set.

[Shinamori]

Hmm, you say that like you'll actually get those units. :V

[SakoHaruo]

Ultimate Mode.

I saw nothing Ultimate. x:

It looks kinda boring.

And people are actually going to spec for this shit?

[rashoood]

yeah ultimate didn't look that ultimate specially since the ones who played aren't properly geared not to mention their skill tree which i doubt is good.

BUT, we always strive for better equips XD

[Xaelouse]

Those Malmoths look kinda crazy and they didn't show all the bosses, or didnt reach a PSE burst even
They were also very tanky with the quest supposedly nerfed for the stream.

[Kondibon]

I was reading through bumped and apparently 13* weapons can go to 60% element. :wacko:

[Sanguine2009]

I was reading through bumped and apparently 13* weapons can go to 60% element. :wacko:

thank god, though that sounds broken as hell considering their attack.

[LonelyGaruga]

Those Malmoths look kinda crazy and they didn't show all the bosses, or didnt reach a PSE burst even
They were also very tanky with the quest supposedly nerfed for the stream.

I wasn't too impressed by the Ultimate De Malmoths. They just chained the attacks they already have better and actually have worse range on their stomp by the looks of it (although the stomp is a lot faster and isn't a rage mode only move). I didn't see any new moves, just ones that were changed up a bit. One of them looked to be titled, so that doesn't help give an accurate impression of their durability, either.

The part with Anga Fandarge looked very chaotic, especially since it was in a corner like that, where it becomes more difficult to avoid attacks. Plus, it looks like it can inflict Weak Bullet, which will probably turn all its attacks into one-shots if you get nailed by it. The part with a player summoning the Ajax PB really helps to drive in that Anga Fandarge looks just like a PB, it resembles Ajax quite a bit, doesn't just have the same color scheme as other PBs. Possibly, other bosses like it in the future will bear similarities to other PBs. Dropping weapons themed after PBs heavily implies this.

Unless Rappies are a special case, it appears that UQs won't be 10-12* drops exclusively like was suggested elsewhere. Wonder if Tagamikazuchi and other rare enemies will show up too. Level 80 Tagamikazuchi EXP...

From that first look at UQs, I'm pretty disappointed outside of Anga Fandarge (which might be disappointing when UQs actually are implemented). Hopefully Diabo Igrissith will be just as challenging, but given the lack of information and advertisement it's been given compared to Anga Fandarge, kinda doubt that will be the case. At least the drops should be cool.


I was reading through bumped and apparently 13* weapons can go to 60% element. :wacko:

What.

[Maenara]

yeah ultimate didn't look that ultimate specially since the ones who played aren't properly geared not to mention their skill tree which i doubt is good.

BUT, we always strive for better equips XD

12* +40 weapons, fully affixed. 11* unit sets. Not properly equipped. Okay.

[LonelyGaruga]

12* doesn't mean it's good, but yeah, they were equipped fine.

It's how they play and their skill trees that make them useless.

[Sizustar]

12* +40 weapons, fully affixed. 11* unit sets. Not properly equipped. Okay.

And it looks like they toned down the boss aggresiviness for this play, as this is a "demo" with someone explaining things from a list.
And the only unexpected was the Ultimate Malmoth, which they had trouble with.

But we'll know once we get it ourself~~

[The Walrus]

I was reading through bumped and apparently 13* weapons can go to 60% element. :wacko:

http://i.imgur.com/4lo9681.jpg

[Maenara]

I really hope Anga Fandarge is more impressive than that. With 'Emergency Code [Disaster]', it better be good. :|

[LonelyGaruga]

Well, we know for a fact that it was stuck in phase 1, since it never ever gained any resistances throughout the entire fight.

These livestreams are completely bogus.

[Sizustar]

Well, we know for a fact that it was stuck in phase 1, since it never ever gained any resistances throughout the entire fight.

These livestreams are completely bogus.

Like the setting that Sakai play test, in which he can beat anything as a Hunter with only Gunslash...

[Zorak000]

also they all had some crazy equipment and stupidly tanky skill trees.

I expect to see a lot more dead bodies in the forest tomorrow, either people going in not knowing what is going on, or people going in after seeing this stream and thinking "lol ulti is lame" then getting murdered because they are wearing a loser set and fighting with a Flamme Brand

[Sanguine2009]

am i the only one that thinks that ultimate will not be that hard? i mean i haven't seen the stream or anything but its not like sega has a good track record of producing difficult content in this game. at best people might die some the first week then it will be like loser or TD, only b20ian tier MPAs will have trouble with it.

[LonelyGaruga]

am i the only one that thinks that ultimate will not be that hard?

Read the thread and you'd be able to tell you aren't. Don't really get why you have to ask such a question in the first place.

Might as well ask if you're the only one that thinks 13*s will be ridiculously good.

[Sanguine2009]

Read the thread and you'd be able to tell you aren't. Don't really get why you have to ask such a question in the first place.

Might as well ask if you're the only one that thinks 13*s will be ridiculously good.

reading the thread it seems to me alot of people seem to think it will be significantly harder than what the steam showed. even with the supposedly nerfed enemies in the stream i dont think it will be much if any more difficult due to us players having proper builds.

[rashoood]

12* +40 weapons, fully affixed. 11* unit sets. Not properly equipped. Okay.

lol i didn't really focus on their affixes but I did notice they were focusing on stamina rather than atk :P well I could be wrong but yea I am sure their trees a tleast are a mess :P

Still, it could be a toned down UQ just for the stream. Everything will be clear after some hours anyway

[Vampy]

I think initially it may be a challenge with he 10 level difference but then again this is sega they are not exactly known for their challenges.

[rashoood]

I just hope the drop rate isnt that bad T_T

and... and tone down dudu and monica plz lol

[Vampy]

12*s I am fine with being more difficult but 13*s scare me.

[rashoood]

yea I still have no idea wth are those lambda grainders and how bad is it to grind a 13*

My orochi agito almost costed me 25m just to fully grind T_T

[Alma]

[SPOILER-BOX]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15820115411_e4eb0e84ef_b.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]


:wacko:

[Squal_FFVIII]

I think initially it may be a challenge with he 10 level difference but then again this is sega they are not exactly known for their challenges.

Sega can't make this game that hard though. Even if they wanted to. In Japan all types of people play this game from hardcore "l33T" players to housewives(yup).

I have plenty of friends from Japan and they are all "casual players" one of them is a housewife and I have another who is a teacher. They are both pretty "bad" at the game.

Sega knows about these type of players and they are both AC buying players so if sega were to make the game ULTRA l33T MEGA HARDZ MODE! like you want it to be then most of these AC buying casual players would most likely quit because the game will be way to hard for them and sega will lose money in the process.

On another note most JP players are also very busy in real life and don't have all day to play like most of the foreigners. I see most players who frequent this site on for very long hours so its easier to farm money and gear when you have so much free time on your hands due to being jobless or whatnot.

I don't understand why that's soooo hard to understand. People always complain that the game is too "easy" but it only takes a little common sense to understand why sega doesn't make the game truly difficult. You don't have to be the CEO of sega to understand.

[LonelyGaruga]

reading the thread it seems to me alot of people seem to think it will be significantly harder than what the steam showed..

Really?


They killed the boss and I didn't see anything that indicated it's resistances changed, and they actually knocked it down the first time pretty quickly. I don't think that mechanic is going to be at all relevant to normal players.


Ultimate Mode.

I saw nothing Ultimate. x:

It looks kinda boring.

And people are actually going to spec for this shit?


yeah ultimate didn't look that ultimate specially since the ones who played aren't properly geared not to mention their skill tree which i doubt is good.


I really hope Anga Fandarge is more impressive than that. With 'Emergency Code [Disaster]', it better be good. :|

Ignoring my own posts since...well, they're mine. I can't use that.

But yeah. Uh, you aren't the only one. By far. Why would you think that? There are two things that are very safe to assume from the livestreams, and it goes for each and every one of them.

1) The players were fighting weakened enemies.
2) The players had terrible builds and playstyles.

So from that, we know that the reality is

1) The enemies will be more difficult than the trailer showed.
2) The players are going to be stronger by a much more significant margin.

The reality of the quest will have an easier time than the distorted embarrassment that the livestreams show of how PSO2 is played. Unquestionably so. The questions to ask thus become "How hard will noobs have it?" "Will I have to pull my own weight? I'm a loser B-20ian, carry me!", "How long will it take to learn how to run Ultimate Quests efficiently?", things like that. Not "Will Ultimate Quests be difficult?", because the answer is almost certainly no, with the certainty being high enough that there's no reason to ask.

Any suggestions that it might be difficult...well, it might be for them, but it won't be for high end players that are adequately prepared, from equipment to experience. I wouldn't even give Ultimate Quests a week before they start getting clockwork runs, personally.

[Vampy]

Sega can't make this game that hard though. Even if they wanted to. In Japan all types of people play this game from hardcore "l33T" players to housewives(yup).

I have plenty of friends from Japan and they are all "casual players" one of them is a housewife and I have another who is a teacher. They are both pretty "bad" at the game.

Sega knows about these type of players and they are both AC buying players so if sega were to make the game ULTRA l33T MEGA HARDZ MODE! like you want it to be then most of these AC buying casual players would most likely quit because the game will be way to hard for them and sega will lose money in the process.

On another note most JP players are also very busy in real life and don't have all day to play like most of the foreigners. I see most players who frequent this site on for very long hours so its easier to farm money and gear when you have so much free time on your hands due to being jobless or whatnot.

I don't understand why that's soooo hard to understand. People always complain that the game is too "easy" but it only takes a little common sense to understand why sega doesn't make the game truly difficult. You don't have to be the CEO of sega to understand.


You seem to discredit players a bit too much sure many have their lives and can't sink in as many hours as others can, but there is still a large amount that do sink those many hours not just on the western front. As it stands sega is making the game even more accessible now which I do find a good thing but they are basically advertising as one of the hardest quest types in the game you would think a bit more effort would be given. This may be a poor representation of the quests actual difficulty sure but even when they are not all that geared and built for damage they do not seem to be struggling all that much on something that should be "ultimate"

[Squal_FFVIII]

There are "l33t" players who spend tons of time on this game that's why I said that =P

But, there are also much more "casual players" than hardcore l33t players. I'm sure sega would rather ignore the demands of the "ultra l33t" players since they don't make the majority. If sega scares off their casual player base from pso2 pso2 will most likely die.

I understand your point, but you're missing the bigger picture here and that's what I'm explaining here. It's about money. Casuals (bad players in your eyes) bring in a lot of money for sega. Only a fool would scare that away.

[Selphea]

Wildstar's spectacular crash and burn is an example of what happens if you cater only to hardcore players.

[Vampy]

Casual doesn't always mean bad either. I consider myself a casual player and people who scratch aren't bad by default because there are plenty of players someone could consider bad that don't even scratch or use any form of AC. And most of don't consider ourselves "1337" I would assume. I feel you are generalizing players a bit too much.

[infiniteeverlasting]

those emo schoolboy costumes... I WANT.

edit: it feels like they're adding more story related stuff now, with those illustrations and such, feels a lot more genuine compared to teh crappy cutscenes we get with awkward looking character lobby actions.

and are they doing a lambda version of those 11 star TD weapons? or are they stone shop weapons? cuz i wanna trade in my lovely TD sword :3
did they showcase any new PAs?

WAIT I JUST MISSED SOMETHING: DID I JUST SEE A LAMBDA VERSION OF SUSANO?

FUUUUUUCKKKK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Squal_FFVIII]

Realistically I haven't called anyone anything. I'm simply just using the common words that people use on this site to describe certain players.

I agree that casual players aren't "bad" but I've ran into plenty of players here on this site and in the game who feel that casuals are the worst type of player ever.

But, that's a whole different subject. My point was that sega will never make this game ultra hard due to the reasons I mention in my first post.

That's a reality you just have to live with or just find another game that gives you that extra challenge that you crave because you will not find it in pso2.

[Alandsmj]

Some observations, could be wrong
:
1. In UQ small minions' HP seems to be around 50,000(+/-10,000). That's roughly 5X HP of the current small minions. It's still quite easy, however, to clear a wave of small minions as long as they are not infected since it seems that they can be zondeeled anyway.

2. Medium minions/Elites/Medium Bosses will be have more HP but I fear they are still going to be easy kills with WB. And in MPA with 12 people, WB won't be too rare.

3. Boss fight takes 5-10 minutes but I don't see any strategically utilized WB and consider how horribly that team is coordinated, the bosses in UQ possibly won't last more than 3 minutes with a good team.

4. The mammoth, however, is surprisingly tough as an elite/medium boss. Probably because it has a title.

5. I might be wrong about this but 13* weapons can be grinded to 60 element?

6. Chainsaw sword has life steal as the potential, just like elder pain. Hahahahahahahahah

7. Monster resistance will most be shooting and tech so look at you GU.

8. It gets mentioned somewhere that 13* will actually be slightly easier to grind than 12* because it's harder to get the rare version of grinders. I could be wrong on this too.

9. Rare rappy still drops weapons lower than 10*.

10. Damage from monsters varies from about 300 to around 700, so what the magazine said earlier holds true. As long as you got properly equipped most classes won't be one shot, although most of the time they are under the effect of blue buff.

11. Techers cheer.

12. I still like the TD opening more.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

10. Damage from monsters varies from about 300 to around 700, so what the magazine said earlier holds true. As long as you got properly equipped most classes won't be one shot, although most of the time they are under the effect of blue buff.


Hope this holds true in client. I'd actually be annoyed if their idea of 'difficulty' was make mobs hit harder than they already do. They must know full well that most of their players generally don't affix HP, and hover around 800. This is one of the situations where they really should balance around the meta, and not balance around possibilities of 1300+ HP.

[strikerhunter]

10. Damage from monsters varies from about 300 to around 700, so what the magazine said earlier holds true. As long as you got properly equipped most classes won't be one shot, although most of the time they are under the effect of blue buff.


If mobs can still 2-3-4 hit KOs or finch feast you to death is still a thing, then it wouldn't really matter for me. Boss damage, don't really care since they are suppose to be "bosses" which brings me to never understanding why the fuck mobs have near same damage as bosses.

[Rien]

Is it time to build jellen shot?

It is time to build jellen shot.

[Aine]

get those niftas revved up cos ultimate is going to be vacuum central as usual

[Rakurai]

Magatsu looks like an interesting fight.

I get the impression it's going to be like TD where your success is heavily reliant on the intelligence/ability of the other players with you having to protect the walls and what not.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

More walls to defend.

Have we all been disowned by family and country for our crimes, and just wear black cloaks forever now?

[Achelousaurus]

After playing a bit of ult I realized it's not remotely as hard as I expected.
Balanced around 12 people my ass.
Maybe in Sega Sonic land where proper balance means 2 minutes max for a boss and 15 minutes max for a quest.

With a decent MPA enemies were still dying before I could really attack them as melee and not even Anga or Diaboi lasted more than 3-4 minutes.

Also, the damage isn't that high. The true difficulty comes from the MASSIVE CLUSTERFUCKING all the time.
so many enemies, so many enemy attack animations (almost all infected so plenty of lighting effects) fancy boss FX and all the PA FX.
Sensory overload, especially when it's a code and half the screen is obscured by the ARKS logo.

The enemy damage is ok, with J Reversal Cover I can get hit like 3 times before I really need to use a mate, only the bosses reguarly hit hard enough to make me use mates often.
And that's as 70/71 BrHu with a 3s Luther Set and only Stam 3 on one unit, 832 HP.

But I gotta say I am REALLY relieved cause if it had been truly balanced around 12 people it would have been a huge bother to get people to do it, especially during off peak times and when an eq is coming up.
Even more after a couple of months when it's not flavor of the month anymore.

Oh and trash mobs have more like 80k+ hp.
I was whacking away at a yellow Yede's back with 50k Sakura's and needed like 2 or 3 and like 6 or 7 (250-300k) on a King Yellow Yede (they got a bit more def so only like 20k per hit on the back).