How an 12* weapon screw your pocket ?

[hoangsea]

5m at an Hollow gimlet (12* t.dagger) and still not +10

screw that success rate :-?

my friends told me that 13* with lambda grinder is much easier to grind compare to 12*
no idea about that

sega logic ... :-?

[n_n]

Best part: Most of the 12*s are not worth using as 10~11*s are stronger than them.

Don't waste your Meseta...

[Dephinix]

Yeah, really look into what 12*s are worth it. So far I only have my eyes on grinding Lightning Espada, my Queen Viera, and the Grav Rod.
That Hollow Gimlet looks cool, but I think I rather stay with the Nirens and Magatsu's new Twin dagger that comes with Megiverse.
I think 13*s had a 50% success chance for all grind levels, so overall they are easier than any 11/12 *, and with much more benefit. Only thing
worth using a grind skip on too, imo of course.

[hoangsea]

nah i got lightning espada (sword with black heart pot) and hollow gimlet (t.dagger with overall dmg increased when attack in air)
those weapon are pretty good atm

it's not those PP regenate pot 12* :-?

kamui is nice but i only have gimlet atm

[Rakurai]

I spent less then five million meseta to max out a Queen Viera for PP regen purposes.

I'm thinking I got really lucky now.

[Saagonsa]

13* weapon grind rates are much better than 12 and even 11* weapons. Though even if you didn't fail a single grind going to +40 on a 13* it would cost 8,428,000 meseta (even more if you were to use grind skips), as opposed to 1,505,000 for 12*s.

[NexusAZ]

I probably spent between 10-15m(probably closer to the 10m side) getting my TDs to +40. The grind rates definitely aren't great. :'D

[Eternal255]

Considering I never get rares for my class until theyre outdated (JUST got niren kamui last week), I havent spent shit on 12* lol. Although the only one I care about right now is the Lavis Blade that I will never own.


13* weapon grind rates are much better than 12 and even 11* weapons. Though even if you didn't fail a single grind going to +40 on a 13* it would cost 8,428,000 meseta (even more if you were to use grind skips), as opposed to 1,505,000 for 12*s.

Holy crap. Good thing I wont ever get one xD

[Kiyumi]

I got those daggers, and spent 5m to +20 them and 4 slot affix. (I only counted the total) I used a +30% grind when it got to +9.

[Dephinix]

nah i got lightning espada (sword with black heart pot) and hollow gimlet (t.dagger with overall dmg increased when attack in air)
those weapon are pretty good atm

it's not those PP regenate pot 12* :-?

kamui is nice but i only have gimlet atm

If you don't have premium and want to go through the trouble for a 12*, then sure. Quick use of damage calc tells me Niren is still a good bit stronger while under PP Slayer, both of them considered at lvl 3 pots. New to using it, so could be wrong, but
seems about right in terms of how much damage my skill tree puts out.

[TaigaUC]

Got lucky with my Psycho Wand and maxed it for maybe 6-8m? I can't recall.
Was pretty lucky with Lightning Esparda, too. I don't recall spending much on that.
Magical Piece took around 30m to max out. Non-stop failures for ages.
One of my God Hands took 10m just to get to +10, no latent. During the 5% boost, I spent maybe 1-2m to get it to latent 1.
I think the other God Hand cost 2-4m to get to latent 1.
Edit: The above doesn't include the cost of stuff like +1 risks, as I usually spend FUN to get those.

Even using risk reduction and +30% success, ending up with -3 is pretty common for 12 stars.
And it's often difficult to get to or past +5. Getting sent back to +0 happens often. It sucks.
The other day, I was trying to max a friend's Bio weapon for them and had it fail at +9 around 7 times in a row, using +20% every time.
I think that was during the +5% boost, too.

[Walkure]

Wish that I had solid data for result distributions on 11*+.

[Maenara]

I spent 30 million getting my God Hand to +20. It took eight full protects to from +19 to +20.

[TaigaUC]

I wonder if they're ever going to change the success rates for 11 and 12 stars.

[Exiled_Gundam]

Usually what I did (for each +10) is Grind Skip then Grind Success 30% + Full Protect

[Dephinix]

I +5ed with nothing, got to 7 with +1 Reducts, then went all out on the full protects and grind ups.

[Drifting Fable]

I spent 1.4m to get to 10+ by pure yoloing my Lightning Espada, and I was like this ain't so bad . . .

Then I spent over 10m in just grinding it to 20+ and that doesn't even begin to describe what I paid for in materials like grinders and protects.

.x.

[Dephinix]

I remember when Loser first came out and I got my Edel Arrow. I +40ed that thing right away, cost me like 9m(grind fulls were around
300k in those good days). Cost of those aside, the rates didn't seem this horrid like now. >.>

[rashoood]

My 12* experience was horrible too lol

aroud 30 millions for 40+ my Orochi Agito (including grind skips and risk reductions :p)

[Maenara]

12* grind rates are pure, unadulterated garbage.

[Cyber Meteor]

12* grind rates are pure, unadulterated garbage.

Judge by yourself (scroll down to see the rates with the risk)

http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0%E5% BC%B7%E5%8C%96

In short the rates of 12* are like this : 100/60/55/45/40/35/30/30/30/30
while 13* are : 100/90/65/60/50/50/50/50/50/50

[Maenara]

Judge by yourself (scroll down to see the rates with the risk)

http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0%E5% BC%B7%E5%8C%96

In short the rates of 12* are like this : 100/60/55/45/40/35/30/30/30/30
while 13* are : 100/90/65/60/50/50/50/50/50/50

The odds of reaching +10 without any failures is about one percent of one percent.

[TaigaUC]

10 million to get this Queen Viera or whatever to +20.
Failed 3 times at +19 with +30% success on every attempt.

[Flaoc]

yes guys grinding 12* is totally worth it.. totally *slowclap*

[TaigaUC]

Well, it'll probably sell for at least 10m when SEGA decides to let us do so.

[Dephinix]

yes guys grinding 12* is totally worth it.. totally *slowclap*

Queen Viera, indeed, applause everywhere, TD carry commence.

[hoangsea]

i just throw those 12* to the storage
screw them, i better spend money on other stuff :-?