Question about Infected enemies

[AFKei]

So, this has been scratching in my head for a while and it's making me go [/la what] just trying to make sense out of it.

An infected enemy has that darker core-like growth on their body, but...how do you explain the Darkers themselves having that same kind of infection, if they're the ones that inflict it?

[Kondibon]

We have literally been asking this question since the beta. No one knows for sure as far as I know.

[Xaeris]

Even dealers get addicted to their own supply.

[Anduril]

Maybe the infection core is like a flower or fungus that emerges as a way of releasing the infection in a pollen or spore like way? If I recall, all hostile enemies are technically infected, so maybe the ones with the core are just in an advanced stage of infection that is part of the reproductive cycle.

[Maenara]

Infections are just growths induced by high concentrations of negative photons.

[strikerhunter]

I highly doubt it is darker related since Anga's design just so ironically to resemble it and we don't even know what Anga is though.

So until we get an answer from Sega, I'll just keep calling it space tumors.

[Anduril]

I highly doubt it is darker related since Anga's design just so ironically to resemble it and we don't even know what Anga is though.

So until we get an answer from Sega, I'll just keep calling it space tumors.
But Anga is Darker related. Mags and Photon Blasts were created from research into Darkers, and PBs and Anga obviously share more than just a passing resemblance.

[KazukiQZ]

What if Photon Blasts are purified Darker beasts? o_o

[PokeminMaster]

What if Photon Blasts are purified Darker beasts? o_o
Well, similar to an infection core buffing the abilities of the creature it is attached to, Mags are able to support the one... bonded to them? Not exactly sure how a Mag supports you, but it does; so in that regard... I don't think there's much of a difference at all, so I think that you're quite right

[Maenara]

Pretty sure Anga Fundarge is of a group of Darkers we've yet to see, under [Persona]'s control, for a number of reasons.

[Sp-24]

What if Photon Blasts are purified Darker beasts? o_o
That's sort of exactly what they are, since PSO2 continues PSO's theme of MAGs being the result of research into Falz. Anga might be a prototype photon beast, an experiment by Luther or somebody else, that went loose the same way Hadred did.

Not so sure what's up with infection blobs, which just continue to get stronger with no explanation. Maybe it's some sort of darker parasite that spreads the corruption while attached to a host? That would probably explain why like 90% of Ultimate enemies have them in addition to having mutated heavily, though not why SH infections look closer to photon beasts' design than to darkers'...

[elryan]

I want Anga photon blast derived from Anga's moveset.

[LonelyGaruga]

Spoiling because some stuff from the new chapter.

[SPOILER-BOX]Anga Fundarge is specifically mentioned to be from an alternate timeline. It also qualifies as a darker for COs that specify darkers, despite its categorization as a Distorted Creature (which is its own unique enemy categorization), so there's a clear connection between it and darkers. Presumably, SH cores look the way that they do because they're more advanced infection cores. Since [Persona] is the only other entity specified to be from another timeline, there's presumably a connection between [Persona] and Anga Fundarge. Since [Persona] has the closest ties to the Profound Darkness, being from a timeline that was consumed by the Profound Darkness (possibly leading to [Persona] being corrupted by it in some manner), it's possible that the Profound Darkness itself more closely resembles Anga Fundarge and SH infection cores in aesthetics than it does a typical darker. It's also possible that [Persona] is capable of spawning Anga Fundarge, since other Dark Falzes spawn darkers that match their weaknesses. With [Apprentice] and [Loser] Doppelgangers from the most recent story quest confirming that even when untransformed, Dark Falzes have the same weaknesses as their more elaborate and obviously themed combat forms, [Persona] definitely is exclusively weak to light and would remain so even if it transformed. Since Anga Fundarge is specified as a Distorted Creature and not a darker, but otherwise has every single quality that defines a darker, there exists a possibility that it's a more advanced darker.

But most of this is speculation because there's very little actually said about this subject. A basic lowdown of what is officially confirmed would be

1) Darker cores on enemies are darker infections, and influence the infectee's behavior, turning it hostile toward ARKs. Even an enemy not visibly infected has been infected by darkers, it simply hasn't physically manifested yet. Darker infections mutate the bodies of those infected by them, somehow also being capable of transforming machines and devices, both Lilipa's mechs and ARKS technology.
2) SH infection cores are "living" infection cores that actively protect their hosts. The three basic variants correspond with insect (antlion head), aquatic/fish (big eye), and bird (bird wings) darkers, with the level 3 infection, the thorny hand, not visibly corresponding to any darker categories but combines traits from these three basic variants. The reason for these specific appearances are unknown, but there is a connection between darkers and Photon Blasts, and Anga Fundarge is also connected to infections and Photon Blasts.
3) Bird darkers are not spawned by a Dark Falz, as is the case with insect, aquatic, and presumably toy darkers, but are artificially created by Luther's experiments and research. Luther himself learns how to artificially transform himself into a Dark Falz through his studies of darkers, and is treated as a Dark Falz, but isn't really a Dark Falz in the same sense as the other Dark Falzes, and doesn't undergo such a transformation until EP2 Chapter 5, meaning a bird Dark Falz never existed up until that moment.
4) [Persona] and Anga Fundarge originate from an alternate timeline. [Persona] virtually all but says that the Profound Darkness destroyed the timeline it originated from, while the nature of the timeline Anga Fundarge originates from is unspecified. Whether Anga Fundarge is spawned by [Persona], from the same timeline as [Persona], or from a third timeline is not specified. Whether [Persona] is capable of spawning anything at all or even transforming is as of yet unknown.
5) Despite there being an infection core corresponding to insect, fish, and bird darkers, there is no infection core that matches toy darkers, unless the level 3 infection core is the match. [Double] is confirmed to have absorbed both [Loser] and a part of [Apprentice], and was seen attempting to absorb [Elder] in the newest story chapter, so this could very well be the case, since [Double] and the level 3 infection cores would both combine traits of three different Dark Falzes/darker cores. This last bit is speculation, however.[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Yayate]

Spoiling because some stuff from the new chapter.

[SPOILER-BOX]Anga Fundarge is specifically mentioned to be from an alternate timeline. It also qualifies as a darker for COs that specify darkers, despite its categorization as a Distorted Creature (which is its own unique enemy categorization), so there's a clear connection between it and darkers. Presumably, SH cores look the way that they do because they're more advanced infection cores. Since [Persona] is the only other entity specified to be from another timeline, there's presumably a connection between [Persona] and Anga Fundarge. Since [Persona] has the closest ties to the Profound Darkness, being from a timeline that was consumed by the Profound Darkness (possibly leading to [Persona] being corrupted by it in some manner), it's possible that the Profound Darkness itself more closely resembles Anga Fundarge and SH infection cores in aesthetics than it does a typical darker. It's also possible that [Persona] is capable of spawning Anga Fundarge, since other Dark Falzes spawn darkers that match their weaknesses. With [Apprentice] and [Loser] Doppelgangers from the most recent story quest confirming that even when untransformed, Dark Falzes have the same weaknesses as their more elaborate and obviously themed combat forms, [Persona] definitely is exclusively weak to light and would remain so even if it transformed. Since Anga Fundarge is specified as a Distorted Creature and not a darker, but otherwise has every single quality that defines a darker, there exists a possibility that it's a more advanced darker.

But most of this is speculation because there's very little actually said about this subject. A basic lowdown of what is officially confirmed would be

1) Darker cores on enemies are darker infections, and influence the infectee's behavior, turning it hostile toward ARKs. Even an enemy not visibly infected has been infected by darkers, it simply hasn't physically manifested yet. Darker infections mutate the bodies of those infected by them, somehow also being capable of transforming machines and devices, both Lilipa's mechs and ARKS technology.
2) SH infection cores are "living" infection cores that actively protect their hosts. The three basic variants correspond with insect (antlion head), aquatic/fish (big eye), and bird (bird wings) darkers, with the level 3 infection, the thorny hand, not visibly corresponding to any darker categories but combines traits from these three basic variants. The reason for these specific appearances are unknown, but there is a connection between darkers and Photon Blasts, and Anga Fundarge is also connected to infections and Photon Blasts.
3) Bird darkers are not spawned by a Dark Falz, as is the case with insect, aquatic, and presumably toy darkers, but are artificially created by Luther's experiments and research. Luther himself learns how to artificially transform himself into a Dark Falz through his studies of darkers, and is treated as a Dark Falz, but isn't really a Dark Falz in the same sense as the other Dark Falzes, and doesn't undergo such a transformation until EP2 Chapter 5, meaning a bird Dark Falz never existed up until that moment.
4) [Persona] and Anga Fundarge originate from an alternate timeline. [Persona] virtually all but says that the Profound Darkness destroyed the timeline it originated from, while the nature of the timeline Anga Fundarge originates from is unspecified. Whether Anga Fundarge is spawned by [Persona], from the same timeline as [Persona], or from a third timeline is not specified. Whether [Persona] is capable of spawning anything at all or even transforming is as of yet unknown.
5) Despite there being an infection core corresponding to insect, fish, and bird darkers, there is no infection core that matches toy darkers, unless the level 3 infection core is the match. [Double] is confirmed to have absorbed both [Loser] and a part of [Apprentice], and was seen attempting to absorb [Elder] in the newest story chapter, so this could very well be the case, since [Double] and the level 3 infection cores would both combine traits of three different Dark Falzes/darker cores. This last bit is speculation, however.[/SPOILER-BOX]


Wait, where is it said that Anga comes from a different timeline? I must've missed that tidbit.

[LonelyGaruga]

Xiao says that the infections in Ultimate Quest come from another timeline. Dunno where though, but it's quoted on swiki's description of Ultimate Quests (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3% 83%A1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9 %E3%83%88). Since Anga Fundarge is the source of the infections, it follows that it must also be from another timeline.

[Anduril]

Xiao says that the infections in Ultimate Quest come from another timeline. Dunno where though, but it's quoted on swiki's description of Ultimate Quests (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3% 83%A1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9 %E3%83%88). Since Anga Fundarge is the source of the infections, it follows that it must also be from another timeline.

If he is the one who pops up to let you know that Ultimate Quests are available, like how Koffie pops up for area unlocks, that may be where he says it.

[Yayate]

Xiao says that the infections in Ultimate Quest come from another timeline. Dunno where though, but it's quoted on swiki's description of Ultimate Quests (http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3% 83%A1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9 %E3%83%88). Since Anga Fundarge is the source of the infections, it follows that it must also be from another timeline.

Ah thanks, I was afraid I missed a conversation in a story node.

[Meteor Weapon]

Inb4 story Quest in Ultimate Naberius, which would be insane to solo as how aggressive and high HP/super tanky the enemies over there.

[Anduril]

Inb4 story Quest in Ultimate Naberius, which would be insane to solo as how aggressive and high HP/super tanky the enemies over there.
Well, they do weaken enemies in the Story missions.

[silo1991]

there is a point you guys never made clear , if all enemies are infected then why the natives(naberius dragonkin, mechs , oceanids) attacks the darkers , even the ones with the parasyte on