Squal_FFVIII
May 3, 2015, 02:25 PM
This is one of those "mystery" type issues. Lately I been seeing a lot of players complaining here in the forums and also have in game friends who suffer from this so I decided to actually make a topic sharing my experiences with this unknown issue.
It' an issue that some players have and some don't. Some players with toaster PC's run the game butter smooth on low settings with no weapon switch lag during lobby or TA's.
However there are those playing with awesome gaming rigs core i 7's and GTX 670s and better, that have these fps drops on maxed or low settings! It's pretty retarded.
There's also another very controversial thing. That thing is called "the good client" pro "l33t" TAer's claim that if you relaunch the game an X amount of times you will eventually get the "good client" which in return will give better overall game performance meaning no weapon fps drop and faster load times.
Now, I can speak on behalf of all these claims since i've experienced every single one of them.
Let's start. Back when the game first came out I was playing it on a 2006 intel core 2 duo dell PC with 2 gigs of ram (ya I know pretty shit) and a 8800GT. On low med settings I would get a constant 60 fps while doing quests but in the lobby with people walking around and such I would get random fps drops/stutters but it wasn't that bad.
On this machine the weapon lag switch was kinda random sometimes I would get it sometimes not, even if a player was using a nikishi.
Around feb of 2013 I bought a new graphics card for my pc hoping I would boost pso2's performance I ended up getting a GTX670 however this was a mistake because my 2006 PC was just overall too weak to fully take advantage of the card. Regardless I didn't have money for a brand new core i7 build. So I went with it.
The outcome? terrible. I was able to play the game on maxed settings, at 60 fps (not at all times) but I suffered greatly from weapon lag switch. Any weapon in the game would make me lag it was horrible. The lobby was a stutter fest for me and so were TA's. Also, I had stutters on everything. For example if an npc talked during a quest I would get the "weapon lag" type problem.
Now came 2014 Finally I had some money to burn since I was doing good :) I decided to build myself a nice core i 7 4770K machine FINALLY! My budget was 1000 dollars so I knew I could build something nice specially since I already owned a good graphics card (gtx 670). I ended up with a 4770K Oced to 4.4ghz 16 gigs of ram and my GTX670. It also had a samsung evo ssd.
So of course happy with my new rig I decided to play my favorite game PSO2! The outcome? Great, but I would still get lobby stutters but nowhere near as bad as on my 2006 pc but it wasn't the smooth experience that I wanted in the lobby. Now what about the weapon lag switch you ask? Well it was completely gone! During TA's I was always the first one to load and I had zero fps drops during weapon switching even if I was using a nikishi! I had a consistent 60 fps during pse bursts and overall butter smooth gameplay during TA's and normal quests. The only place that I had fps drops/stutter was in the lobby. Regardless I was still very happy since my performance was WAY better than it had ever been. This was all on 1080p and fully maxed settings and also using Nvidia inspector to add better Anti Aliasing to the game.
Now one day just out of the blue my performance tanked hard! On this same machine that ran the game great (aside from the lobby) all of a sudden I logged in to huge fps drops during weapon switching and horrible load times. I went from being the first to load to being the last! and again every weapon caused fps drops for me it was insane >.<
I couldn't believe that my i7 4770K was now also chocking with this game when just the day before it was running it perfectly!(back in 2014)
At this point I was pulling my hair out thinking "Wtf happened? Why is my game running like shit again for no reason? Even on such a nice machine :(" I couldn't find any solutions until one day one of these "l33t" TAers told me about the "Good Client" so I asked him to explain it in detail to me. He said that the game generates a "performance client" if you will everytime you log in to the game. So naturally I asked him how to obtain it. He said that you get it by restarting the game over and over until you get it and that it would be noticeable because the loading would be faster than the normal "choppy" loading.
At first I was like "There's no way this can be true...I bet this guy is trolling me..." But I was desperate to get that awesome performance I once had so i gaved it a shot. I had nothing to lose. So here I was like a retard logging in and logging out trying to find this "good client" i tried for like an hour and nothing, then on one of those retries I was finally able to obtain the "good client" no lie! The game loaded fast! It wasn't choppy or stuttery and I had no weapon lag switch once again! I was like "Holy fucking shit! Are you fucking serious?!" Please excuse the language I just want to give you guys a real experience here.
I went into a TA run to test my new found performance and sure enough I was back! Ultra fast loading and no weapon lag switch even with maxed out graphics and Anti aliasing using Nvidia inspector. At this point i'm thinking to myself "Omg..the dude wasn't lying to me, he wasn't trolling, he was telling the truth. There IS a hidden "good performance client".
However as awesome as this was as soon as I logged out back into my desktop the "good client" was gone and I had to "hunt" for it again. Now one thing I noticed about this "good client" I noticed that restarting my PC made a big deal with hunting down the "good client" because everytime I restarted the "good client" would come quicker.
Once I had the "good client" I would just afk and not log out to be able to keep the "good client" and not have to hunt it down again.
Now after the whole ddos attacks happened and the servers came back I was one of the lucky people who had TWC and I was able to log in and guess what? I was back to getting the "good client" everytime! No matter if I logged out or anything. Everytime I logged in I would get the "good client" my game was pretty much back to normal.
Crazy huh? This is one hell of an issue IMO. It's one of the most bizarre issues i've ever encountered in modern PC gaming. Ever since that my PC has been running the game with the "good client" again up until now May 2015.
It's almost like the ddos attack "fixed" the "bad client" for me. It's an issue that we will probably never understand.
Now in 2015 I have yet another new rig this one meaner and cooler than the other one. It has a 4790K Oced to 4.6ghz, 16 gigs of HyperX Savage Memory running at 2400mhz and with now my old GTX 670. Now you're probably asking why would you still be using the 670 on such a new machine? Simple, i'm waiting for the 980ti. That card will complete my new build ^^
But back on topic! This new PC also runs the game with the "good client" at all times ever since the DDOs attacks the "bad client" hasn't shown it's ugly face again! Atleast on my end.
Now I know this last bit could have been completely left out, but I just wanted to give you guys a full update to all of this.
Now I know some people may say this, but no, this is not a "look at my hardware" type thread so don't think that.
Now why does this issue exist? I have no clue. My guess is that SEGA just fucked up the game's code at some point and never fixed it or cares to fix it.
I made this thread to simply share my experience with this bizarre issue. It's an issue that i'm quite passionate about.
Anyways's I hope this helps some people who are still struggling with the "bad client". From my own personal experience this issue can attack even strong PC's! such as in my case.
Sorry for such a long post, but I really do hope you guys find it useful. Specially the ones suffering from this issue. As for the "l33t" TAer who shared this info with me, he doesn't want me to post his name here so I will respect him and not say his name. I hope you understand ^^
It' an issue that some players have and some don't. Some players with toaster PC's run the game butter smooth on low settings with no weapon switch lag during lobby or TA's.
However there are those playing with awesome gaming rigs core i 7's and GTX 670s and better, that have these fps drops on maxed or low settings! It's pretty retarded.
There's also another very controversial thing. That thing is called "the good client" pro "l33t" TAer's claim that if you relaunch the game an X amount of times you will eventually get the "good client" which in return will give better overall game performance meaning no weapon fps drop and faster load times.
Now, I can speak on behalf of all these claims since i've experienced every single one of them.
Let's start. Back when the game first came out I was playing it on a 2006 intel core 2 duo dell PC with 2 gigs of ram (ya I know pretty shit) and a 8800GT. On low med settings I would get a constant 60 fps while doing quests but in the lobby with people walking around and such I would get random fps drops/stutters but it wasn't that bad.
On this machine the weapon lag switch was kinda random sometimes I would get it sometimes not, even if a player was using a nikishi.
Around feb of 2013 I bought a new graphics card for my pc hoping I would boost pso2's performance I ended up getting a GTX670 however this was a mistake because my 2006 PC was just overall too weak to fully take advantage of the card. Regardless I didn't have money for a brand new core i7 build. So I went with it.
The outcome? terrible. I was able to play the game on maxed settings, at 60 fps (not at all times) but I suffered greatly from weapon lag switch. Any weapon in the game would make me lag it was horrible. The lobby was a stutter fest for me and so were TA's. Also, I had stutters on everything. For example if an npc talked during a quest I would get the "weapon lag" type problem.
Now came 2014 Finally I had some money to burn since I was doing good :) I decided to build myself a nice core i 7 4770K machine FINALLY! My budget was 1000 dollars so I knew I could build something nice specially since I already owned a good graphics card (gtx 670). I ended up with a 4770K Oced to 4.4ghz 16 gigs of ram and my GTX670. It also had a samsung evo ssd.
So of course happy with my new rig I decided to play my favorite game PSO2! The outcome? Great, but I would still get lobby stutters but nowhere near as bad as on my 2006 pc but it wasn't the smooth experience that I wanted in the lobby. Now what about the weapon lag switch you ask? Well it was completely gone! During TA's I was always the first one to load and I had zero fps drops during weapon switching even if I was using a nikishi! I had a consistent 60 fps during pse bursts and overall butter smooth gameplay during TA's and normal quests. The only place that I had fps drops/stutter was in the lobby. Regardless I was still very happy since my performance was WAY better than it had ever been. This was all on 1080p and fully maxed settings and also using Nvidia inspector to add better Anti Aliasing to the game.
Now one day just out of the blue my performance tanked hard! On this same machine that ran the game great (aside from the lobby) all of a sudden I logged in to huge fps drops during weapon switching and horrible load times. I went from being the first to load to being the last! and again every weapon caused fps drops for me it was insane >.<
I couldn't believe that my i7 4770K was now also chocking with this game when just the day before it was running it perfectly!(back in 2014)
At this point I was pulling my hair out thinking "Wtf happened? Why is my game running like shit again for no reason? Even on such a nice machine :(" I couldn't find any solutions until one day one of these "l33t" TAers told me about the "Good Client" so I asked him to explain it in detail to me. He said that the game generates a "performance client" if you will everytime you log in to the game. So naturally I asked him how to obtain it. He said that you get it by restarting the game over and over until you get it and that it would be noticeable because the loading would be faster than the normal "choppy" loading.
At first I was like "There's no way this can be true...I bet this guy is trolling me..." But I was desperate to get that awesome performance I once had so i gaved it a shot. I had nothing to lose. So here I was like a retard logging in and logging out trying to find this "good client" i tried for like an hour and nothing, then on one of those retries I was finally able to obtain the "good client" no lie! The game loaded fast! It wasn't choppy or stuttery and I had no weapon lag switch once again! I was like "Holy fucking shit! Are you fucking serious?!" Please excuse the language I just want to give you guys a real experience here.
I went into a TA run to test my new found performance and sure enough I was back! Ultra fast loading and no weapon lag switch even with maxed out graphics and Anti aliasing using Nvidia inspector. At this point i'm thinking to myself "Omg..the dude wasn't lying to me, he wasn't trolling, he was telling the truth. There IS a hidden "good performance client".
However as awesome as this was as soon as I logged out back into my desktop the "good client" was gone and I had to "hunt" for it again. Now one thing I noticed about this "good client" I noticed that restarting my PC made a big deal with hunting down the "good client" because everytime I restarted the "good client" would come quicker.
Once I had the "good client" I would just afk and not log out to be able to keep the "good client" and not have to hunt it down again.
Now after the whole ddos attacks happened and the servers came back I was one of the lucky people who had TWC and I was able to log in and guess what? I was back to getting the "good client" everytime! No matter if I logged out or anything. Everytime I logged in I would get the "good client" my game was pretty much back to normal.
Crazy huh? This is one hell of an issue IMO. It's one of the most bizarre issues i've ever encountered in modern PC gaming. Ever since that my PC has been running the game with the "good client" again up until now May 2015.
It's almost like the ddos attack "fixed" the "bad client" for me. It's an issue that we will probably never understand.
Now in 2015 I have yet another new rig this one meaner and cooler than the other one. It has a 4790K Oced to 4.6ghz, 16 gigs of HyperX Savage Memory running at 2400mhz and with now my old GTX 670. Now you're probably asking why would you still be using the 670 on such a new machine? Simple, i'm waiting for the 980ti. That card will complete my new build ^^
But back on topic! This new PC also runs the game with the "good client" at all times ever since the DDOs attacks the "bad client" hasn't shown it's ugly face again! Atleast on my end.
Now I know this last bit could have been completely left out, but I just wanted to give you guys a full update to all of this.
Now I know some people may say this, but no, this is not a "look at my hardware" type thread so don't think that.
Now why does this issue exist? I have no clue. My guess is that SEGA just fucked up the game's code at some point and never fixed it or cares to fix it.
I made this thread to simply share my experience with this bizarre issue. It's an issue that i'm quite passionate about.
Anyways's I hope this helps some people who are still struggling with the "bad client". From my own personal experience this issue can attack even strong PC's! such as in my case.
Sorry for such a long post, but I really do hope you guys find it useful. Specially the ones suffering from this issue. As for the "l33t" TAer who shared this info with me, he doesn't want me to post his name here so I will respect him and not say his name. I hope you understand ^^