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RuneMcCloud
Apr 23, 2003, 11:29 AM
Well. I should have known better than to think that there would be no racism in PSO online. I was in Vega checking out the trade rooms, (like it or not Vega has the best trading rooms in this game, but thats another Topic). And a character named Bruce Lee come in to the lobby saying "Nig.ers are stupid fukking monkeys." I usually would ignore something like that untill 3 other pple started agreeing with him, Continuing their racest remarks to other races too. I dont get it. Whats the point of hateing some one else b/c of their skin color. Black, White, Yellow, Brown. We are all the same, we just do stuff differently. I wish alot of people would see that.

Wewt
Apr 23, 2003, 11:42 AM
Stupidity, jealousy, and their upbringing.

Intimidacius
Apr 23, 2003, 12:57 PM
Racism is a strange thing. It is caused by ignorance and it is maintained with bitter feelings. The only way to wipe out this problem would be for all people over all the Earth to drop all racist feelings. That means no discrimination of any race by any other race. That means no race gets benefits that other races do not. The problem with this solution is the same problem with communism: it just can't happen. People love to hate. If you(or your ancestors/family) were the victim of racism then you may be more inclined to seek vengeance in some way. It is a sad cycle which feeds itself(in most cases). It may be a problem that is never solved unless we start equality(not meaning "Seperate-but-Equal" nor Affirmative Action) now.

Intimidacius is alive

Daikarin
Apr 23, 2003, 02:41 PM
Once on a lobby (One of my first days on PSO PC Trial), I was waiting for a few friends, when this HUnewearl (whose name won't be said) showed up simply saying that USA suck. She claimed to be from Japan and that her people rules, bla bla blah... All that typical "My country is better than yours" crap.

A few guys asked her why she thought that way, and I ended up reading the most idiot and racist reasons for anyone to hate people.

Then she/he (sounded like a "he") came to me and asked me where was I from. After I answered (why did I do that?), she began her racist comments against the latin people. ("Latin ppl can only wash windows here in Japan they suck and we all laugh at them")
Then I heard her say that she was only kidding, and asked me where I was from again.

I asked which city in Japan she was from, and she replied "HONG KONG".

I wonder why people come to lobbies to tease or offend people just because they are from a certain country or race. I sure wish some people would grow up in this world, and gain a little maturity.

Wewt
Apr 23, 2003, 05:25 PM
On 2003-04-23 12:41, New Ultimate wrote:
I asked which city in Japan she was from, and she replied "HONG KONG".


That's fucking hilarious.

This is a plus side for the Xbox if you all think about it. There won't be anybody going on a foreign ship to cause trouble.

ABDUR101
Apr 23, 2003, 07:48 PM
...I was flamed by an entire lobby because I'm a muslim...it's not a big deal, although I could'nt physically hurt them...hmmm.. =|

Either way, it was as easy as laughing at them for taking the time to type it all out, when I just sat there, and then walked to the counter and joined a friend in another ship. XD

kat
Apr 23, 2003, 08:18 PM
That is just the worst...

If people act like that how can they expect anyone to want to play with them?

I mean, patriotism is one thing, but that was just over the top.

And I'll say this too - I'd play with someone who's Muslim, etc. regardless of Sep. 11 bombings... because it's stupid to hate a class or people for something a batch of idiots do in the name of religious or ethnic superiority

IceBlink
Apr 23, 2003, 09:02 PM
That's fucking hilarious.

This is a plus side for the Xbox if you all think about it. There won't be anybody going on a foreign ship to cause trouble.

Wrong. ^_^;

In America, the biggest racial discrimination is still white versus black, yes? And since other countries are taken out in Xbox PSO, players will now have a new target for their racial abuse... their own country. *sweatdrop*

Elentari
Apr 23, 2003, 09:30 PM
Bruce Lee was on antares 8 the other night...and he was following around a black character using that particular shortcut. Apparently people recognized him from DC as a racist...so doesnt look like anything has changed. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_no.gif

Wewt
Apr 23, 2003, 11:04 PM
On 2003-04-23 19:02, IceBlink wrote:
Wrong. ^_^;

In America, the biggest racial discrimination is still white versus black, yes? And since other countries are taken out in Xbox PSO, players will now have a new target for their racial abuse... their own country. *sweatdrop*


Not quite wrong, but at least players from another country won't receive abuse simply because they're from that country. However, you are right about how players will "focus" their abuse on their own country.

At least there's the mute button for voice communications.

brillyfresh
Apr 23, 2003, 11:37 PM
i've seen Bruce Lee online before too, spouting his old brand of crap ... about a month ago, i can't believe he's still at it (loser)

oh, and i think the most common prejudice isn't white vs. black, it's white vs. non-white .... which makes me wonder why such a racist tool would pick the name "Bruce Lee"

something really should be done about the crap that goes on in lobbies ... i don't really mind all the begging, or "CORRUPTED HELP PLZ" (as annoying as those are), but i simply can't stand the racist stuff and porno symbol chat, for the sake of the young, impressionable kids playing online

Guile
Apr 23, 2003, 11:50 PM
Yeah it's stupid, hell to just go online and talk shit is thee dumbest thing ever..
Racism sucks, yeah but it will probaly never go away because as many people that hate it there is a handful that go around preaching it.
Sorry to hear that Abdur, woulda back'd you up but I was'nt there!!

Vantamiath
Apr 24, 2003, 12:29 AM
Half the morons who do that shit arent even racist...just sad, sad, little attention whores.

hououtate
Apr 24, 2003, 01:49 AM
I am white and I hate racists.

I hate when someone of another race calls me racist because I don't like them, I don't hate the entire race, I hate that person. When I dislike a person its not because of what they look like, its because of how they act. Erg...Affirmative action, that pisses me off to. Women and some non-whites are not looking for equal rights; they want superior ones. I have seen Bruce Lee before, I don?t like what he said about blacks, but I do agree with his views on feminists




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Mystil
Apr 24, 2003, 12:45 PM
On 2003-04-23 09:29, RuneMcCloud wrote:
And a character named Bruce Lee come in to the lobby saying "Nig.ers are stupid fukking monkeys."


We crossed paths before..

And I'm black..*shrugs* It's old, very old. I just shoke my head and continued about my business. If my race is so bad then why is he in this game? And yet why make comments about it, when you can't "SEE" anyones skin color?

Ahem..

"Racists are stupid ignorant fucking morons".

Captain_Anarchy
Apr 24, 2003, 08:23 PM
yea im not to fond of racists either, this one kid in school sida that he hated balcks and jews and that he thought the klan was a good orginization, i wanted to punch him in the face, i would have too if it were for the 5 day suspension i would have got

Sham
Apr 25, 2003, 11:34 AM
"Nig.ers are stupid fukking monkeys."

I've seen a few people in Anteres 08- Lobby 01 saying this or agreeing with it. I joined a game promptly after entering. Not worth my time, mostly because you can't get many points across through internet chat.

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_chuck-ball.gif

Intimidacius
Apr 25, 2003, 01:04 PM
Intimidacius would like to state that the reason Whites are viewed as being racist is that there are a lot more racist white people than other races. This is kind of skewed because the majority of the population is white, meaning that a lesser percentage of white racists to other racists still seems that more white people are racist than not.

It is not simply white versus non-white. It is a matter of each race having racist members. Ethnocentrism is not defined as only pertaining to whites. It goes for any race, ethnic group, or gender for that matter. No matter who dishes out the racism, it is wrong. One person's crime does not condemn his/her race.

Intimidacius disapproves double-dipping

UltimateEnigma
Apr 25, 2003, 10:45 PM
wtf?! I'm white,and white guys copy the way black guys talk,dress,rap,kick the living shit out of people(lol),yet no1 wants ot be black.

n whoever started this post(why isnt there a topic review thing at the bottom of the page >_<)
channlenge him to a battle or sometin,n when hes lyin there dead go:

"fo shizzle dizzle,u asshole wizzle!"
i love sayin fo shizzle dizzle..

a lot of people hate France...(i mean Freedom) now
i dont,u ever see that frnech chic from Spyhard?
ooo lala

n if i ever get online,ill...ill...ill...THROW SECRET GEAT AT HIM! [shock]



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brillyfresh
Apr 27, 2003, 01:26 AM
very well said intimidacius ... although one person's crime can make his/her entire race look really bad, especially when the media exploits it ... but only to people who allow themselves to jump to such a hasty conclusion

Vitamin_D
Apr 28, 2003, 05:49 PM
Yeah, I saw Bruce Lee on Antares 8 Yesterday. I wish he'd call me a nigger to my face, but i KNOW he'd be too cowardly to do it. It's easy to say something online, because there's no retaliation... but it's ok, It'll all come back to him one day.

Scriptor
Apr 30, 2003, 10:28 PM
"it'll come back to him one day" - u nailed this bitch right on the head Vit D. there aint no point 'voicin opinions' on this one, its way beyond that. i mean, logically, obviously discriminatin cause some1 is from a certain race is wrong and all that. but think about it, ppl who r raceist have obviously chosen to ignore that and u can bet ur fukkin bottom dollar they gonna ignore anythin said contrary to that. so, like vit D said, let karma deal with the fukkers, unless circumstance/luck/god/fate (whatever u wanna call it/believe) gives u a chance to step in personally. like that post who said he saw some shit goin on at his school- FUKK THE SUSPENSION, NEXT TIME WHACK THE FUKKER BETWEEN THE EYES. and when they come askin, just say "he was bein raceist, so i whcack the fukker". if circumstance creates a situation where u see this shit goin down- STEP THE FUKK IN, its so much more preferable to bein a cowerd and livin with that shit (yeah it sounds corny, but fukkin wait till u experience it urself). enough said.

The_Hero_Of_Time
May 1, 2003, 06:01 AM
AH yes, Bruce Lee, what a ***, I cant believe hes pays the hunters license hust to run around saying that. haha he wanted to exchange Guild Cards with me once. :0

Mystil
May 1, 2003, 05:44 PM
Bruce Lee pisses me off. He has the advantage though cause he has a keyboard and I don't(I'm fast but not fast enough to say what I have to say..). He has no idea what I verbally have in store for him and his self esteem.

People like him, pretty much is why I think this game is a piece of trash.

ophiel
May 1, 2003, 09:11 PM
Racism baffles me.

I mean, the theory behind the practice baffles me.
For Example:
1. I am Intolerant of Intolerant people.
2. I hate people who hate other people.
3. I descriminate against descriminators.

I used to work at a wendys restaraunt, and the only time i ever spit on someones food, was when this skinhead neo-nazi guy ordered a sandwhich, and I couldnt help myself. I just had to spit on it, because I cant stand his system of beliefs.

But does that make ME a racist?
These questions keep me at war with myself.
I preach tolerance, and equality. But am I a hypocrate because I am intolerant of people who dont believe in equality? Or am I simply acting with justification from my beliefs?

I dont know. Oh well.

nathan
ophiel.
lv. 66 fomar.
[mars army]
-lafayette division leader-
[echelon]

hollowtip
May 3, 2003, 10:33 PM
Some of you guys take the comments way to seriously. Racism is in the real world, deal with it. I have a lot of black friends and I'm always making racist jokes to them, and they laugh. They do the same to my cracker ass.

Like someone said previously in this thread, people are attention whores, I'd say 90% of them aren't seriously racist.

I used to make racist comments to my white friends who were really sensitive about the subject just to get a rise out of them (it works very easily), and I think it's doing the same with a lot of you guys. No offense to anyone, that's just my honest opinion.

These guys are just pushing people's buttons, reacting by calling them names only fuels the fire.



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Droxitr
May 4, 2003, 12:52 AM
I'm white. My best friend since second grade is black. We play and mess around, verbally usually.

I don't remember what we said, but it was so off the wall, and we just stared at each other and then started laughing. Then a teacher came and told me that I "shouldn't make fun of people that are different from myself".

Even worse than racism is being overprotective about the subject.

Does anyone remember that time before anyone taught you about people of different ethnicities? I remember seeing people that didn't look like me or my family when I was younger... I thought to myself, "hey, those people are different. cool." and then I went on with life.

I believe that racism is taught, 100%. I do not think the nature of the human animal is to be born with an intense hatred of someone who looks/acts different from itself.

So, my idea to end racism: a new law that decrees all racists be sterilized and have their voice boxes surgically removed.

And if you thought I was serious about that, get a life.

Jacko
May 4, 2003, 01:22 AM
heh guys this might cheer you up. me and my friend were there and my friend has taken about 6 screenies of the chat log and is gonna contact sega.

MasterJoel
May 4, 2003, 02:45 AM
yeah, racism sucks... my dad once said "its not nice to make fun of those who are different from you", which my brother promptly responded, "i don't understand why anyone would make fun of those who were the same as them..." the only funny thing is when people try to be racist against me, but get my race wrong... i have been mistaken for asian (i dunno how) and latin before, and its really funny that they think they are being offensive to me personally. if you are going to be racist, get it right, freaks.

what i really hate, if this applies, is when forms ask for race. you know what i am talking about! the forms you use for school, other government documentation... i am 1/4 mohawk (and four brands of white, lol) so it makes it difficult on me since it says "check one" and there is no multiracial box. grr. anyhow...

Daikarin
May 4, 2003, 05:20 AM
On 2003-05-01 15:44, Silhouette wrote:
People like him, pretty much is why I think this game is a piece of trash.


I don't even think that people like him. Not at least for real. Maybe people just hang out with him because they see he's socially acceptable, and admire him just because others admire him as well.

Ness
May 4, 2003, 06:50 AM
Racism comes from ignorance and fear. Racist people are just afraid of change.

Droxitr
May 4, 2003, 02:03 PM
I don't think they meant people that like having Bruce Lee around, but people similar to him pulling the same shit.