So, in just a few days, we'll be able buy and sale ★12 Weapons & ★11 Units

[the_importer_]

A couple of questions are left to be answered:

1- What will be the exceptions, what weapons and units will be left out of this deal? Weapons and units from exchange shops come into mind, but then again, some of these are also drops in the game itself, so will owners of these be restricted as well?

2- How much will these weapons and units go for in player shops? When I came into PSO2 in the beginning of spring 2014, ★10 Weapons, ★11 Weapons and ★10 Units were already available in player shops, so I did not see how this all started, so perhaps some of you veterans will remember.

Were the prices for ★10 Weapons, ★11 Weapons and ★10 Units insanely high when you were able to sale them for the first time?

[ShinMegamiSensei]

I assume the typical shop 12* and 11* units are blocked. LIVE series and all that.

I really dont know for magatsu weapons... I found a few drops and it would suck if I cant trade them in, but its also easy, but gradual 12* passes for those that run every maggy EQ to turn in stones for the 12*.

[Misaki Ki]

Some of this might be wrong, since I'm going off of memory, and as such, just my experience of the releases. I'd have to look at old screenshots and chatlogs to check for anything further - but it's not something I'm going do today.

10* weapons were pretty cheap when the passes first came out. I remember some weapons falling to like 10k, weapons that some people went crazy hunting over, but couldn't get to drop. It was almost a joke. The later 10* releases did get pretty crazy expensive though, but not the initial ones. There wasn't a lot of trade passes going around at the time too, for a little while.

11* I don't remember too well, it was pretty uneventful. Some were slightly pricey, but I don't recall anything too expensive. (Could be wrong) I want to say 6-12 mil range for the average one, but I can't remember. EQs gave a small but good amount of 11* by the time passes came out. I think we had Base 1 already. The 11* release was mostly to 50% what people had already.

12* are closer to 11* right now at release. It's hard to say the prices since DOs and Klotho COs gave us some pretty high inflation when they were changed not too long ago. (Usually we only see it on AC items though, weapon prices haven't changed too much.)

[Punisher106]

My game plan is this:

- Find a 12* weapon, some day
- Find a way to get premium again
- Trade weapon for pass
- Make much meseta
- Buy the precious

[TheszNuts]

I doubt any of Magatsu's Evil series will be tradeable.

[ArcaneTechs]

8months-1yr later "We will be removing the accound bind on 12*'s upon purchase, 12*'s previously bought will not be effected by this"

the usual

[Rakurai]

Wonder if 13* will ever be pushed as the new standard.

[n_n]

My game plan is this:

- Find a 12* weapon, some day
- Find a way to get premium again
- Trade weapon for pass
- Make much meseta
- Buy the precious
If I remember correctly, there will be three 12* passes you can obtain from title rewards. ;-)

[Punisher106]

If I remember correctly, there will be three 12* passes you can obtain from title rewards. ;-)

WAIT, WHAT? What do you have to do to get them?

[Terrence]

Three per account, related to XH EQ completions (if I remember well).

[Punisher106]

Watch, it'll be like... Complete Magatsu XH 500 times.

[Flaoc]

Wonder if 13* will ever be pushed as the new standard.

sega already is trying to push that.. while slave is a dick to grind out for (and the drop rate on it is much worse than ares) ideal and yoza arent that bad of grinds

[Zipzo]

I was under the impression that this was still a bit off, not immediately coming in this upcoming patch.

[the_importer_]

I was under the impression that this was still a bit off, not immediately coming in this upcoming patch.

Well I'm basing myself on this page which shows you the July 8th updates:

http://www.bumped.org/psublog/gal-gryphon-makes-its-pso2-debut/

[Shinamori]

I was under the impression that this was still a bit off, not immediately coming in this upcoming patch.

It was dated as early July in the one of the slides.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Seeing that you can't sell XQ Weapons I assume you won't be able to sell the Units either.

Although if that's true...that would also mean..... anything that involves and exchange shop wouldn't be sellable either....which would leave Saiki,Brisa,Diabo,Magatsuhi (unless im missing one)

[the_importer_]

Seeing that you can't sell XQ Weapons I assume you won't be able to sell the Units either.

Although if that's true...that would also mean..... anything that involves and exchange shop wouldn't be sellable either....which would leave Saiki,Brisa,Diabo,Magatsuhi (unless im missing one)

Well, let's take it one step further. You can't sale Zieg's ★11 Weapons, so this could mean that you can't sale the ★12 that you get from him (the ones that can drop from EQs).

[landman]

I don't expect people to sell their uber saiki sets until next grind/afix boost once they get their new units ready so it will just be ticket collection for me.

[Lumpen Thingy]

The persona double saber better be worth a fuck ton since that's the only good drop I've gotten in months x)

[wefwq]

soon, having saiki set won't make your character looks superior anymore :^)

and also here's hoping that *12 weapon gets decent price on the market, but i doubt it'll happen.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Well, let's take it one step further. You can't sale Zieg's ★11 Weapons, so this could mean that you can't sale the ★12 that you get from him (the ones that can drop from EQs).

I thought about that too haha.

Guess we'll have to wait and see how they handle that.

[Zipzo]

I'm pretty sure they'll be cheap like when 10* and 11* trading went live.

Fully tricked out versions will probably be the shiny stuff that will go for eye-opening prices, but hot off the item tekker I'm sure they will probably go for dirt. There's really no reason to think otherwise, IMO.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Inflation?

[Shinamori]

I'm pretty sure they'll be cheap like when 10* and 11* trading went live.

Fully tricked out versions will probably be the shiny stuff that will go for eye-opening prices, but hot off the item tekker I'm sure they will probably go for dirt. There's really no reason to think otherwise, IMO.

I don't think they'll be that cheap since they'll bind once you buy them. Pretty much killing the chance of buy and reselling. :V

[Zipzo]

I don't think they'll be that cheap since they'll bind once you buy them. Pretty much killing the chance of buy and reselling. :V

It's true this may have an effect on things but for some reason I'm not thinking by much.

[Remz69]

I don't think they'll be that cheap since they'll bind once you buy them. Pretty much killing the chance of buy and reselling. :V

but on the otherhand most of them aren't that great and the grind is painful so i don't see the demand for them being all that high

[Rakurai]

They're making 12* more manageable to grind.

There appears to be no more risk -4, for starters.

[the_importer_]

soon, having saiki set won't make your character looks superior anymore :^)

http://www.troll.me/images2/syndrome/everyone-can-be-super-and-when-everyones-super-no-one-will-be.jpg

[Maenara]

rip GGG trigger MPAs

[Cyber Meteor]

rip GGG trigger MPAs

Thank God, finally! I can spend my casino coins on tribooster and advance capsules a/b/c :-P

[Punisher106]

So, uh, any news on those titles? All I heard was "Complete XH missions". I want some clarification.

[Chdata]

The answer is that it's unreleased so nobody knows unless someone datamines it.

[the_importer_]

rip GGG trigger MPAs

RIP anything beyond the Casino lobby [FIXED]

[LonelyGaruga]

So, uh, any news on those titles? All I heard was "Complete XH missions". I want some clarification.

That's literally all there is to it, and all that's been said.


RIP anything beyond the Casino lobby [FIXED]

Trigger MPAs will be fine considering 11* passes are premium only and that you actually need 11* units to get any in the first place.

By the way, why do you keep saying sale (not in this post obv, but thread title and a bunch of other posts)? It's sell.

[Poyonche]

Verb : to sell

When something is to sell : on sale

:wacko:

[the_importer_]

That's literally all there is to it, and all that's been said.



Trigger MPAs will be fine considering 11* passes are premium only and that you actually need 11* units to get any in the first place.

By the way, why do you keep saying sale (not in this post obv, but thread title and a bunch of other posts)? It's sell.

Probably because I'm French and don't take the time to double check my English spelling half the time.

[Naoya Kiriyama]

RIP anything beyond the Casino lobby [FIXED]
Not everyone is premium (I've never been, for example) so there's still people interested on the saiki hunt. And besides, prices on it will still go nuts most likely, since GGG triggers won't be forever available.


Probably because I'm French and don't take the time to double check my English spelling half the time.

Still pretty basic English ·_· it's as bad as mistaking "you're" with "your" just because it sounds the same

[the_importer_]

Still pretty basic English ·_· it's as bad as mistaking "you're" with "your" just because it sounds the same

How's your French?

[Poyonche]

Probably because I'm French and don't take the time to double check my English spelling half the time.



Ooh tu es français toi aussi ? Je me sens moins seul. :3


Translation : Oh you are french too ? I feel less lonely.

Edit : Wrong quote

[Naoya Kiriyama]

How's your French?

Does it matter what's my French level in an English speaking forum?

And just to note, basic level, since I learned a bit in highschool, but almost forgot most of it.

[the_importer_]

Ooh tu es français toi aussi ? Je me sens moins seul. :3


Translation : Oh you are french too ? I feel less lonely.

Edit : Wrong quote

Et bien salut :)
Dans quel coin du monde es-tu situé?

Translation: Google is your friend


Does it matter what's my French level in an English speaking forum?

And just to note, basic level, since I learned a bit in highschool, but almost forgot most of it.

How`s your second language then?

[wefwq]

Well i thought this thread are about upcoming tradeable weapon patch discussion, no?


RIP anything beyond the Casino lobby [FIXED]
Not really rekt, the fact that *11 become tradeable just makes forming GGG trigger MPA more difficult, but it's definitelly still here to stay since like, not everyone are premium or able/want to spend on AC.
And then there's happy merchant who still want to join in trigger MPA to sell their stuff, if it's being pricey on the market it is.

[Naoya Kiriyama]

How`s your second language then?
Advanced certification in English. Surprise, English isn't my native language

[Asuka~]

Let's not get too sidetracked from the thread topic, shall we? @OP _(: 3

[the_importer_]

Well i thought this thread are about upcoming tradeable weapon patch discussion, no?

Well you can thank the usual trouble makers for this, the ones who are so obsess in stalking me and pointing every single little things. Now before you say that I'm a narcissist, take note that I do read other topics and the usual culprits don't jump on others as much as they do on me.


Not really rekt, the fact that *11 become tradeable just makes forming GGG trigger MPA more difficult, but it's definitelly still here to stay since like, not everyone are premium or able/want to spend on AC.
And then there's happy merchant who still want to join in trigger MPA to sell their stuff, if it's being pricey on the market it is.

All I said was RIP to the Casino area, but then again, see what I just wrote above. Point is that most people do GGG Trigger Parties during drop boost weeks and you don't get those every month. Simply using your daily Coin tickets, you can obtain a GGG Trigger in 50 days or less (you sometime get more than 100 and you also have the Coin Ticket rewards).

But ya, people like myself who just wanted 1 full set and never got any after so many tries will probably just give a big fat FU to GGG Trigger Parties. Even if you don't normally pay Premium, 1 month just to trade-in unwanted ★11 units is a small price to get this nightmare over with.


Advanced certification in English. Surprise, English isn't my native language

Good, then I don't have to detail you the neuroscience behind being able to speak and write in different languages and how when you turn off your brain, that the basics of you non-native tongue can just go away until you turn it back on.

[Poyonche]

inb4 Magatsuhi cost 20 mil.

[the_importer_]

inb4 Magatsuhi cost 20 mil.

This will be a long 3 days of waiting. I think I'll go to bed early on Tuesday and wake up an hour earlier just to see how this will turn out on day 1.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

I hope XQ units can be sellable seeing that can drop.....

[Utterly Vile]

And when is this suppose to occur??? (Eastern time) I'm Just wondering....
I've got my eye on a few goodies.;-)

[Azure Falcon]

inb4 Magatsuhi cost 20 mil.

Please no, that's the one thing I actually want to buy with these passes, and half of my funds are tied up in a hairstyle that a couple of dumb players decided to crash with a price war.

[Mizuchira]

And when is this suppose to occur??? (Eastern time) I'm Just wondering....
I've got my eye on a few goodies.;-)

I heard it will happen an hour earlier than normal maintenance time. So 9PM (EDT).

[starwind75043]

What would be better?

Selling the weapon/unit as is or grinding it?

[wefwq]

What would be better?

Selling the weapon/unit as is or grinding it?
Well, that's really is depends on your luck and available resources.

Sometimes, grinding before selling it will not worth it at all just because RNGesus wills it.

[Poyonche]

Yeah, it is all up to RNG, just wait tomorrow to see if you could do profit whatever happens.

[Utterly Vile]

Saw a small flux in items, and reduction in prices earlier...But never got a chance to try the shops an hour before before maintenance.^^;

[Maenara]

When you think about it, Sega turned around on their decision not to implement 12* trading awfully quickly.

Expect 12* units soon.

[Cyber Meteor]

Expect 12* units soon.

I'm honestly wondering why we still don't have them tbh

[Maenara]

To Sega's credit, there's always something you can't just buy, so I wouldn't put it past them to unveil 12* units that completely outclass Saiki, quite soon.

[Asuka~]

And that makes me wonder about 13* units... Hi Lambda Grinders... ;_;

[Rakurai]

They ought to make Lambda Grinders purchasable with casino coins so the place isn't so deserted outside of times when it's needed for bingo cards or ship competitions.

[TaigaUC]

Light element jumped to 13 million at some point, probably because of people preparing for 12 stars.
I'm sure everyone already noticed, though.

[ArcaneTechs]

Light element jumped to 13 million at some point, probably because of people preparing for 12 stars.
I'm sure everyone already noticed, though.

its been sitting at 9mill for a long time, im not surprised

[TaigaUC]

Last I checked, it was a lot less than that.
I bought one at 3m during that revival scratch.

[the_importer_]

Light element jumped to 13 million at some point, probably because of people preparing for 12 stars.
I'm sure everyone already noticed, though.

I think I'll take my chances wit AC Tickets then.

[ArcaneTechs]

Last I checked, it was a lot less than that.
I bought one at 3m during that revival scratch.
past few weeks it hovered between 8-9mill whenever i looked them up but nice grab before the price went up

[TaigaUC]

Thanks. I was gonna use it to fix one of my God Hands.
I figure it'll drop again later though. No rush.

[Maenara]

Thanks. I was gonna use it to fix one of my God Hands.
I figure it'll drop again later though. No rush.

I'll take your God Hando so I can make mine 49% light. ( ͡° ᴥ ͡°)

[wefwq]

with this, finally i can get some taste of orochi agito ;_;
inb4 it's 10m+

[Chigun]

The main question I have is whether we should sell our 12* weapons right away or wait until the market stabilizes... Which would be more profitable? Hm~

Anyway, as for units: the game isn't hard enough. XH is not done well. We really don't need better defense items until we're offered legitimately harder stuff.

As for the post above mine: I hope to God orochi agito (and many more) is 10+ million. I mean good lord these items are ridiculous to get sometimes. I mean I have a lot of 12* but that's only because I play like an obsessive recluse. :P


Light element jumped to 13 million at some point, probably because of people preparing for 12 stars.
I'm sure everyone already noticed, though.

My guess is people are converting the new 13* sakura weapons to light en masse. I expect most 12* on the market will already be light because... people who spend half a moment thinking of value identify their rares as light anyway, unless specifically trying to prepare for Lilipa UQ or some such niche.

[wefwq]

The main question I have is whether we should sell our 12* weapons right away or wait until the market stabilizes... Which would be more profitable? Hm~

Anyway, as for units: the game isn't hard enough. XH is not done well. We really don't need better defense items until we're offered legitimately harder stuff.

As for the post above mine: I hope to God orochi agito (and many more) is 10+ million. I mean good lord these items are ridiculous to get sometimes. I mean I have a lot of 12* but that's only because I play like an obsessive recluse. :P
I think the rule of thumb "it's pricey while it's hot" are still apply to equipments, especially if your stuff are really is rare.
Some *12 are still bound to be pricey no matter what since few can actually still compete with current *13 lineup.

[Poyonche]

Also, install the update if you haven't done it yet. :3

[TaigaUC]

Extreme Quest drop units are sellable. That's a surprise.

Brisa is worth jack. Saiki is ~400k.

[yuln]

Are there any title rewards issued yet for a free 12 star weapon ticket? A question from someone who doesn't have premium

[Rakurai]

The Gal Gryphon drops Lambda Grinders every now and then.

Extra incentive to spam the quest all day long, I guess.

[TaigaUC]

I don't seem to have unlocked any of the 12 star ticket titles just from logging in.

[Flaoc]

The Gal Gryphon drops Lambda Grinders every now and then.

Extra incentive to spam the quest all day long, I guess.

proof?

[Rakurai]

I have four of them after doing the quest six times, so they aren't all that rare.

[Agastya]

I don't seem to have unlocked any of the 12 star ticket titles just from logging in.
It's tied to clearing the new LQ on XH. 1, 10, and 30 clears.

[Azure Falcon]

Brisa - 10k
Saiki - 200k
Magatsuhi - 250k
Evil weapons - 200k
Boots of Serafi - 1.5m

I'm in love with this update, everything I want I can EASILY afford.

[yuln]

It's tied to clearing the new LQ on XH. 1, 10, and 30 clears.

Thank you for clearing it up!

[Poyonche]

Brisa - 10k
Saiki - 200k
Magatsuhi - 250k
Evil weapons - 200k
Boots of Serafi - 1.5m

I'm in love with this update, everything I want I can EASILY afford.

But can you afford the grind ? :wacko:

[Morgan Fumi]

Anyone got a price check on the Nox weapons? Specifically the Partizan and Double Blades. I don't have access to my desktop for the next 7 or so hours.

[wefwq]

Anyone got a price check on the Nox weapons? Specifically the Partizan and Double Blades. I don't have access to my desktop for the next 7 or so hours.
Price was 30 mins old, some of it might have changed.

Here's few weapon price on ship 2:
Chainsaw sword floating around 4,8M atm.
Serpent grigoros WL 3,1M.
Nox partisan 1,3M.
Nox DS 210K (fuck...).
Nox launcher 420K.
Nox talis 1M.
God Hand 2,8M.
Orochi Agito 5,2M.

Price above are the lowest, so if yours are actually having decent elemental value and affix on it, it should naturally worth more than the listed price above.
Currently having network difficulty, so i can't check the rest.

[TaigaUC]

JP friend confirmed that you can change XQ and Magatsu exchange units/weapons into passes.

[Chigun]

These prices are way lower than I expected. Bad for me, as someone who had a large collection to sell. Oh well. I think they'll only lower as more people get on to load their stuff onto the market.

[Morgan Fumi]

Thank you! I've never been around for a pass release before, so I was worried they'd be several million each, haha. Nice to see it doesn't seem to be so catastrophic.

[the_importer_]

Well, so much for being a billionaire with Weapons and Unit I've been pilling up in my bank, guess this is what happens when there's more offers than demands :p

Well, at least my 2 Sange Yasha are worth 1.5m each and the and my NOX Talis 1.0m.

[Chigun]

I'm going to have issue grappling with this even though I did see it coming. Like 11*, I now see most 12* as trash (I have prem, lots of meseta and the means to get many weapon passes, so just about all 12* are within my grasp easily). This limits the game immensely. Even the emergency quests I used to hop into in hopes of getting a 12* drop are meaningless now, not to mention the accomplishment of finding 40+ 12* weapons being worth about as much as a lucky time with one or two AC scratch 12-packs.

I would be seriously pissed right now if the RNG overlords hadn't blessed me with much 13* action. But it still makes me step back and think. This game is sort of a waste of effort if they're just going to keep releasing new levels of weapons, then letting you sell them, repeat. I hope beyond all hope this is the final weapon pass release. But I doubt it.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Are XQ Units sellable?

[final_attack]

Managed to get that Resta Talis for 1m about 1-2 hour ago o-o Never thought it'll be at that price o-o

Now I can be self-sufficient even as GuRa o-o

[IndigoNovember]

Are XQ Units sellable?

Yes they are. If you found them, you can sell them. If you bought them with stones, you cannot sell them.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Interesting thanks.

Since i won't be home until later, can someone price check the Raven and Rose Set on Ship 2?

[the_importer_]

If you found them, you can sell them. If you bought them with stones, you cannot sell them.

Actually no, I would be able to sale my Evil Nochiuhau which I bought with stones (not that I'm going to :p )

[final_attack]

Interesting thanks.

Since i won't be home until later, can someone price check the Raven and Rose Set on Ship 2?

- Rose -
Rear = 100k x2, 300k, 500k~
Arm = 300k, and then 800k
Leg = 400k, then 500k (4 units only)

- Raven -
Rear = 150k 200k, 300k, 400k, 900k~
Arm = 260k, 420k, 900k~
Leg = 260k, 420k x2, 500k, 1m~

[IndigoNovember]

Actually no, I would be able to sale my Evil Nochiuhau which I bought with stones (not that I'm going to :p )

Huh? You not being able to sell your weapon bought with stones matches up with my statement:


If you bought them with stones, you cannot sell them.

[Shinamori]

You can sell evil weapons from shops. :V

[IndigoNovember]

You can sell evil weapons from shops. :V

You're right. Back to figuring out why I couldn't sell some of my XQ units...

[TaigaUC]

I guess exchanging them binds them to you? Hence the unbind thing?
Is that in yet?

[Mesarthim]

You can sell evil weapons from shops. :V

This.

I unlocked my evil rod and it is listable. It was bought with 500 stones. It's a pure shop baby and it can be sold. I equipped it too so no binding.

[TaigaUC]

I don't see the unbinding thing anywhere, so I guess it's not in yet.

[the_importer_]

Huh? You not being able to sell your weapon bought with stones matches up with my statement:

I think you're confused, best to read your statement again and what I wrote.

[Azure Falcon]

But can you afford the grind ? :wacko:

Hah, no worries on that part. I've been hoarding Maggy Excubes for 6 months due to him giving me the finger rather than the Brisa units I originally wanted.

[reaper527]

JP friend confirmed that you can change XQ and Magatsu exchange units/weapons into passes.

does this include ones that were obtained from stone redemption or only the ones the were acquired from drops? because those are obtainable both ways.

[TaigaUC]

I'll have to ask to confirm later. Logged out and too tired to log back in right now. Sorry.

[KazukiQZ]

does this include ones that were obtained from stone redemption or only the ones the were acquired from drops? because those are obtainable both ways.
Yes, both way.

[IndigoNovember]

I think you're confused, best to read your statement again and what I wrote.

It's already been shown that I was wrong, but just to clarify why your statement is in agreement with mine.


Actually no
This part disagrees with my original statement, so I'm expecting some evidence.


I would be able to sale my Evil Nochiuhau
However the evidence that follows disagrees with the first part. The use of "would" implies you cannot sell your stone 12* at the moment, hence my interpretation that you cannot as of this update. Looking back, I think you meant "could," since that implies you can sell your stone 12* at the moment: "I could put my stone 12* up for sale, but I'm not going to."

In the end, it's just a misunderstanding.

[reaper527]

Yes, both way.

that's awesome news. i wasn't even optimistic i'd be able to turn my xq units obtained via drop into passes. the fact we can get 12* passes from magatsu stones is great news (even if it will take quite a bit of time to obtain enough for it to be relevant).