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CoWorker
Aug 17, 2015, 08:01 AM
just for fun, make a tier list (C, B, A, S-tier) about every boss in the game
must be in even playing field, with no instant kills (cuz some classes make most of the bosses a joke), and make it like to let new people know on how difficult the boss really is

also balance the hard and annoying, if its annoying to fight but easy fight then it on somewhere in the middle tier
if its a field regular boss, make it in solo terms, but if its a raid boss type then make it in a 12/12 mpa terms

heres an example (im not an expert)

C-tier:
Rockbear
Gwanada
Goronzoran <- this guy should be a D-tier actually

B-rank:
Quartz Dragon
Dark Falz Elder <- easy to fight but its a waiting game
Zeshrayda

A-rank
Blu Ringahda
Falz Angel
Zeta Guranz

S-rank
Apos Dorios
Falke Leone
Diabo Igrithys <- inflicts Physical Pain to the player with its screen shaking that causes headaches

Maenara
Aug 17, 2015, 08:12 AM
F-tier:
Bal Rodos
Falz Arms

Stickboy
Aug 17, 2015, 08:17 AM
bullshit tier, falz angel

'cuz im still having trouble trying to solo him

Zanverse
Aug 17, 2015, 08:20 AM
It's not that Diabo, Apos and Leone are very difficult; they're just plain douchebags. Diabo just flips around and does his stupid spin attack, and those damn fire pillars. Apos is just annoying long an XH, and Leone is too much a jerk to actually let you hit it.

CoWorker
Aug 17, 2015, 08:21 AM
F-tier:
Bal Rodos
Falz Arms

i still think Goronzoran is the utter failure of all of them, its like even you brought a Hard mode weapon, u can still kill him without effort...

Maenara
Aug 17, 2015, 08:27 AM
Blu Ringahda and Falz Angel should be S-tier.

C-tier:
[Persona] (Sword-type)
Magatsu
Magatsu Shigan

B-Tier:
[Persona] (Double Sabre-type)
[Apprentice] Doppelganger
Magatsu Sai

A-Tier:
Magatsu Higan

isCasted
Aug 17, 2015, 08:45 AM
I guess it's better to add D-tier. I'm going to rank those based on solo experience (except for multiparty bosses), because a good party can destroy absolutely everything.

D: Rockbear, Gwanahda, Caters (C-tier when there are more than one), Goron (he opens possibilities for some serious B-class annoyances, though), Org Blan, Vardha Soma, Biol Meduna, Falz Arm, Bal Rodos the Original, Doppelgangers and Clones at endgame, Luther the Still Guy.

C: Tranmizer, N-VH Big Vardha, Vol Dragon, Codotta Idetta, Gigur Gunne-gam, DF Elder, Magatsu Sai, Dark Ragne, Wolgahda, solo Banthers, Nepto Cassadora, Rheo Maddulard (not duo).

B: Zeshrayda, Dragon Ex, Anjhadu-lili (more like annoyance than difficulty, though. Also, very unbalanced, as some builds faceroll over it, while others can't hit it in life), Chrome Dragon, [Persona] (sword), Blu Ringahda, Quartz Dragon (depends on RNG. If you are unlucky to get bad pattern, it might as well belong to A), duo Banthers, Cougar NX, Theodore.

A: Falz Hunar, Apos Dorios, DF Loser, Magatsu, Nepto Cassadora+Rheo Madullard, Knight Gear, Guar Zigmorde (heavily class-dependant, again), SH+ Big Vardha (can be B when you are lucky with patterns), Decol Malluda, Zeta Guranz, Facility Bal Rodos, pre-nerf Mr. Umblla, Gal Gryphon, triple-infected titled Nove Ringadarl, [Persona] (DS), early-game Clones.

S: Falz Angel, rest of Ultimate.

MegaUltraSSX++: Nyau, Mr. Bowan and infected Gunship when your group sucks ass.

Koishi
Aug 17, 2015, 08:47 AM
C-rank:
Bal Rodos
Goronzoran
Rockbear
Gwanada

B-rank:
Dragon Ex
Nepto
Gunne
Dark Falz Angel (I don't have much difficult with him)
Quartz Dragon
Dark Falz Elder
Fang/Snow Banther
Dark Ragne

A-rank:
Chrome Dragon
Vardha <-- lots of missle, especially SH above -_-
[Apprentice]
[Persona] (DS ver)

S-rank:
Blu Ringada
Diabo Igrithys
Dark Falz Loser
Apos Dorios

fay
Aug 17, 2015, 09:03 AM
S Tier - Deaths can happen pretty easy

Falz Angel
Falz Loser
Magatsu
Diabo Igirthis

A tier - Realtively good bosses that can kill you easily if not paying attention

Vol dragon
Quartz dragon
Falz Hunar
Dragon EX
Blud Ringahda
Chrome dragon
Cougar NX
Gigur Gunna gam
Falz apoties - Not sure of spelling of name
Anga fundarge
Bayaribbles
Plosiorgles
Falk Leone
Vilma Leopard
Zeta Guranz
Gal Gryphon

B tier - Some decent attacks. potential to kill in there if not careful

Fang Banther/Banshee
Snow Banther/Banshee
Big vardha
Zeshryada
Decol Malluda
Knight gear
Persona
Guar Zigmorde - i would have made this A tier if it didn't lose the insta kill attack
Falz Elder
Falz apprentice
Dark Ragne

C tier - won't be killed unless you're being stupid

Gwanahda
De malmoth
Tranmizer
Wolgahda
Bal Rodos
Vardah Soma
Biol Meduna
Anjhadu-lili
rheo madullard
nepto cassadora
Falz Arm
Codotta idetta

D tier - Don't really have anything going for them

Rockbear
Caterdran
Caterdran'sa
Goranzoran
Org Blan
Mr Umblla - Does he count?
Nyau - Does he also count being a code duel?

Naoya Kiriyama
Aug 17, 2015, 09:07 AM
A-rank
Blu Ringahda



B: Blu Ringahda
A: triple-infected titled Nove Ringadarl


S-rank:
Blu Ringada



A tier
Blud Ringahda


How exactly does people find Blu Ringahda hard?

SteelMaverick
Aug 17, 2015, 09:12 AM
Titled Hunar from Beach Wars 3 is pretty S tier, if you had to fight Hunar in TD3 without an AIS he'd probably rape all the average pub MPAs.

cheapgunner
Aug 17, 2015, 09:15 AM
Sad thing is Goronzoran is the only mini-boss besides the Falz that can't spawn in packs of 3. You would think Sega would let the fat tub of lard call for more backup than a Vol/Burn dragon for help.

fay
Aug 17, 2015, 09:23 AM
Dunno if any of you will remember this far back, but when goranzoran first got release he was super strong. People actually complainted to get him nerfed. He got nerfed and now hes horrible.

RealKillaK
Aug 17, 2015, 09:25 AM
C-Rank:
Gwanahda
Rockbear
Goronzoran
Bal Rodos(Coast)
Falz Arms
(Most Mini bosses too many to name)

B-Rank:
Vol Dragon
Dark Ragne
Dark Vibrace
Falz Hunar
Gal Gryphon
Gigur Gunne-gam
Quartz Dragon
Persona(Sword)/(Double Saber)
Apprentice
Falz Elder
Magatsu(Phase 2)
Bather(solo)
Zeta Guranz

A-Rank
Big Vardha
Dragon Ex
Cougar
Bayaribbles
Plosiorgles
Falke Leone
Zeshrayda
Blu Ringahda
Falz Angel
Apos Dorios
Magatsu(Phase1)
Bathers(if both are out at once)
Bal Rodos (Facility)
Chrome Dragon

S-Rank
Anga
Diabo
Falz Luther XH only
Ult Gargonos

God-Rank
Ifloie Clones

isCasted
Aug 17, 2015, 09:34 AM
How exactly does people find Blu Ringahda hard?

Too many things to watch out for. There's Ringahda itself with various attacks (both melee and ranged) that get quicker and harder to notice as you drain its HP. Then there are rings that act like tornadoes and also spawn more tornadoes. Then there are random tornadoes on the floor.

It has pretty repetitive pattern, and you can adjust to it and turn every fight into a cakewalk. It's just that this boss is so different from others that it's harder to learn it.

Also, Mothership EQ makes a huge impact on people's perception of this boss. You have red Ringadarl with red attacks, red rings, red mobs with red attacks, red Ignix, red WB, red ENVIRONMENT, red screen borders when your HP is low... Also, it has more tornadoes in a concentrated space, so getting flipped over is pretty much unavoidable. The only thing that EQ lacks is Baize that explodes if you don't reach Zesh in under 5 minutes, so your screen could go maximum overred.

Koishi
Aug 17, 2015, 09:35 AM
How exactly does people find Blu Ringahda hard?
His ring is quite annoying and something he makes a combo that wipes out 2/3 of my hp
Remake my list

God Tier:
Nyau (You can't kill him)

S-rank:
Dark Falz Loser
Anga Fundarge
Ultimate Bosses

A-rank:
Chrome Dragon
Big Vardha
Nepto Cassadora+Rheo Madullard
Gigur Gunne-gam
Guar Zigmorde
Cougar NX
Knight Gear
Blu Ringahda
Falz Hunar
[Apprentice]
Apos Dorios

B-rank:
Fang/Snow Banther
Vol Dragon
Quartz Dragon
Ex Dragon
Tranmizer
Vardha Soma
Bal Rodos (Facilities Ver)
Anjhadu-lili
Decol Malluda
Codotta Idetta
Zeshrayda
Dark Ragne
Dark Vibras
[Persona]
Falz Arms
Dark Falz Elder
Falz Angel
Gal Gryphon

C-rank:
Rockbear
De Malmoth
Cateransa
Goron Zoran
Org Blanc
Biol Meduna
Wolgahda
Gwanada

D-rank:
Bal Rodos (Coast Ver)
Clones (1hp 1hp 1hp 1hp 1hp)

nathanielzor
Aug 17, 2015, 10:06 AM
I think everyone is forgetting:
S Rank: Signo Guns
SSS Rank: Ult Signo Guns

milranduil
Aug 17, 2015, 10:07 AM
fuck gunkaizers

Natsu Nem
Aug 17, 2015, 10:18 AM
Annoyingness Tier

S Tier
Scumbag Signos
Offscreen Dinian Leaps
Repeatedly Burrowing Caterdicks
Knight Gear Hitboxes

TwistedShaerk
Aug 17, 2015, 10:18 AM
I think everyone is forgetting:
S Rank: Signo Guns
SSS Rank: Ult Signo Guns


fuck gunkaizers

Fuck that End of EP3 trailer, Gunkaisers are the true final boss.

red1228
Aug 17, 2015, 11:59 AM
I feel like GunKaisers themselves aren't a huge threat (I play sword Hunter mostly in Ultimate), but rather the obscene amount of hitstun that EACH of their projectiles have.

I'm fine with the damage each projectile has & I'll even accept the slight tracking they have (this IS called Ultimate for a reason), but if two or more of those projectiles hit you: It's like your character is stuck moving at 5fps while the rest of the game is moving at normal speed.
I once had two GunKaisers manage to land all of their shots from off-screen (they spawned off camera & strafed into view when it was too late for me to avoid the shots). Even with Massive Hunter Active, I simply couldn't dodge out of it because my character was animating at a SEVERELY reduced speed while getting hit.
Needless to say, my only modest 1100 HP did not survive twelve shots.

RibbonSoft
Aug 17, 2015, 12:05 PM
I've fought all of these solo.

A Rank (I dread facing these bosses):
-Anga Fundarge (this should be self explanatory)
-Falz Angel (I usually die because I am too slow to dodge his rush forward attack)
-Apos Dorios (pain in the ass towers and laser beam sweep)
-Ex Dragon (Fast and does huge damage)

B Rank (I don't mind them but can be annoying if not paying attention):
-Persona (double saber, very fast)
-Bal Rodos (mostly annoying because I can never dodge the stupid water ball attack so it one shots me every time).
-Falz Hunar: (fast and likes to combo or dive kick me to death)
-Quartz Dragon (again, very fast, panic status effect)
-Cougar NX
-Banthers (very fast, I don't have reflexes to keep up)
-Knight Gear
-Gigur Ginnegam
-Falz Arms (mainly annoying because there's four of them)
-Dark Falz Elder (actually not too hard but tougher than the C ranks so at bottom of B rank)

C Rank (These guys suck):
Biol Meduna
Zeshrayda (I can kill this thing in seconds on a good day)
Chrome Dragon
Big Varda
Decol Melluda
Vol Dragon
De Malmoth
Caterdran (and it's many variants)
Gwanahda
Org Blan (just a tougher Rock Bear)
Persona (Sword, a complete joke)
Wolghada (just like Rock Bear)
Rock Bear
Tranmizer
Goronzoran

Mind you, this is only VH so I am sure this will change once I enter SH.

red1228
Aug 17, 2015, 12:08 PM
...
-Bal Rodos (mostly annoying because I can never dodge the stupid water ball attack so it one shots me every time)....

Shoot his waterball with the mounted machine gun turrets. The "health" of the bubble is proportional to the number of players present. So if you're by yourself, you can still shoot it down before it explodes.

Chdata
Aug 17, 2015, 12:09 PM
The hardest boss is dudu

RibbonSoft
Aug 17, 2015, 12:11 PM
Shoot his waterball with the mounted machine gun turrets. The "health" of the bubble is proportional to the number of players present. So if you're by yourself, you can still shoot it down before it explodes.

I've never been able to destroy it, so I probably just suck at this particular boss.

TaigaUC
Aug 17, 2015, 12:21 PM
I dunno how I'd rank bosses, but the ones that really annoy me when I'm soloing:

Caters. Because they seem to unpredictably flip on my head, and the double stun is annoying.
Can't range them because they just keep digging away.

Quartz in Sanctum TA, without using the wall stuck trick.
Hard to hit his weak points in such a small area. He keeps doing turning attacks or flying away.
Then he does that multiple head swing, and if I have his head locked, the camera implodes.

I think Decol Maluda's feather projectile barrage kills too quickly.
Usually, I dodge as soon as I see it, and still die instantly.

Suihou rolling guy. I have no patience for him.
Bal Lodos if he doesn't die immediately.
Cougar when he spams his slide attack.
Gwanada when it just keeps burrowing infinitely.

I don't have any problems with Ringarda. I think I'm fine with the other bosses.
I think I've only fought Angel alone once. Got hit by something and died just before he died.
Some bosses are more annoying because they have huge HP pools, moreso than any other reason.

EvilMag
Aug 17, 2015, 12:36 PM
SSS Tier: Plosiorgles
Cause Sega doesn't know Science.

HentaiLolicon
Aug 17, 2015, 12:43 PM
I don't know how to rank them, most of them die right after 1 EA/SC with WB on :|

red1228
Aug 17, 2015, 12:46 PM
I think it depends on what class you play. Blu Ringahda is a total pushover if I'm playing a melee class, but if I'm playing a squishy ranged class that needs distance to function properly/safely: I can see why so many don't like him.

That being said, some bosses I sometimes find difficulty with:

Bayaribbles (enraged): For the most part, he's just a beefed up / sped up Rockbear. But two things can make him troublesome when he's pissed off... 1st, his ROFLCOPTER (that triple spinning body slam) spam. Each slam hits like a truck, has ridiculous tracking, reduces Max HP if it hits you, has some early hit detection if you're in the air (you can get hit before he actually starts coming down) & he'll spam the hell out of it once he's below half health.
2nd, his drop kick. I swear this attack has two different "hitboxes". There are sometimes where its spot on & I can JG or dodge it just like any other attack. Then there are times when I can see his feet CLIP INTO MY CHARACTER, but the JG never triggers (like he whiffed harder than Siegfried in SC5). Or I'll dodge it, have a TWO-WHOLE CHARACTERs WIDTH OF SPACE BETWEEN HIM & MYSELF & still get sent flying.

Diabo: I just hate this fucker. Everything about him screams fake difficulty, as far as I'm concerned. From his entire BattleField-wide hit boxes, super fast Fire Spam, absurdly short "downtime" via broken parts or freeze status, to his complete damage immunity when he jumps in the sky but can still cause the whole area to erupt with fire. Nevermind the fact that he can still fly around the map (not just jump in the the air, I mean actually FLYING AROUND) with broken wings while littering the area with fire beams from a busted face. That's not a fair challenge, thats just a giant middle finger to the player. (His drops aren't even that great anyway!)

TaigaUC
Aug 17, 2015, 12:50 PM
I don't think Ringarda is difficult with Force. Just slow to kill, I guess.
If you're using WB you can just WB his discs and then his head and nuke his face.

When Ringarda runs away he will always use his double disc whirlwind attack.
People don't seem to realize that it doesn't hit at close range. I always run up to him as soon as he starts to run away.
You can get close to him with attacks like Rodeo Drive, Il Zonde, etc.
Or if you're not good at timing dodges, you can just equip a magic weapon and Mirage Escape through it.

Some bosses are more annoying depending on whether you're their main target or not.

HentaiLolicon
Aug 17, 2015, 12:57 PM
So far, only those 2 mech kitties in Lilipa UQ worth the rage, you will likely stay on floor whole time with all that knockdown strikes

Sacrificial
Aug 17, 2015, 01:01 PM
Which transmizer exia would show his third form much more. That one is(can be) actually dangerous.

Flaoc
Aug 17, 2015, 03:00 PM
well alright ill give this a shot (though i dont have best memory)

I need to test my new gear tier:
Bal Rodos (Coast)

Summon Gryphon Gels Pls Tier:
Nyau

D tier:
Goranzoran
Rockbear
Gwana

C Tier:
Vol Dragon (no magma armor)
Both Caters
De Malmoth
Biol Meduna
Org blan
Fang Banshee
Codetta
Vardha Soma
Mizer
Rheo Madullard

B Tier:
Ringa
Fang Banther
Hotwheels (as bad as i want him on a...)
Giggles Gunnergam
Zeshrayda
Dark Vibrace
Falz Arm (XH EQ only)
Persona (both forms)
Apprentice Doppleganger
Dark Falz Elder
Decol Malluda
Nepto Cassadora
Falz Dourumble? (yet to see XH version of this)
Dark Ragne
Gal Gryphon
Big Vardha

A Tier:
Fang/Snow Duo
Vol Dragon (full magma armor)
Noire Draal (fawk ex this is the real one)
Quartz Dragon
Facility Rodos
Nepto/Rheo
Chrome Dragon
Zeta Guranz
Dark Falz Loser
Falz Hunar
Plosiorgles
Vilma Leopard
Falke Leone
Bayaribbles
Anga Fundarge

S tier:
Diabo
Falz Angel
Falke Leone/Vilma Leopard duo (hardest current boss)
Apos Doritos

Because fawk u thats why tier:
Army of Gunkaisers >: D

SSS Tier:
Profound Darkness (probably)

LunaSolstice
Aug 17, 2015, 03:05 PM
God Tier: Nyau,Dudu and Monica lol

TwistedShaerk
Aug 17, 2015, 03:13 PM
well alright ill give this a shot (though i dont have best memory)

I need to test my new gear tier:
Bal Rodos (Coast)

Summon Gryphon Gels Pls Tier:
Nyau

D tier:
Goranzoran
Rockbear
Gwana

C Tier:
Vol Dragon (no magma armor)
Both Caters
De Malmoth
Biol Meduna
Org blan
Fang Banshee
Codetta
Vardha Soma
Mizer
Rheo Madullard

B Tier:
Ringa
Fang Banther
Hotwheels (as bad as i want him on a...)
Giggles Gunnergam
Zeshrayda
Dark Vibrace
Falz Arm (XH EQ only)
Persona (both forms)
Apprentice Doppleganger
Dark Falz Elder
Decol Malluda
Nepto Cassadora
Falz Dourumble? (yet to see XH version of this)
Dark Ragne
Gal Gryphon

A Tier:
Fang/Snow Duo
Vol Dragon (full magma armor)
Noire Draal (fawk ex this is the real one)
Quartz Dragon
Facility Rodos
Nepto/Rheo
Zeta Guranz
Dark Falz Loser
Falz Hunar
Plosiorgles
Vilma Leopard
Falke Leone
Bayaribbles
Anga Fundarge

S tier:
Diabo
Falz Angel
Falke Leone/Vilma Leopard duo (hardest current boss)
Apos Doritos

Because fawk u thats why tier:
Army of Gunkaisers >: D

SSS Tier:
Profound Darkness (probably)

I've been reading this one a few times, but I cannot for the life of me see Big Vardha anywhere on this list. Guess his existence is too insignificant to warrant a spot, either that or I've gone blind. :wacko:

Flaoc
Aug 17, 2015, 03:21 PM
I've been reading this one a few times, but I cannot for the life of me see Big Vardha anywhere on this list. Guess his existence is too insignificant to warrant a spot, either that or I've gone blind. :wacko:

fixed

edit: also forgot chrome dragon.. added that in too

LonelyGaruga
Aug 17, 2015, 03:42 PM
I wonder how many people would think differently of Diabo if they saw how easy it is solo (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26288402).

Stand in front of it and it forgets how to do anything besides spit fire.

isCasted
Aug 17, 2015, 04:05 PM
He might be easy solo himself, but getting rid of those adds is amazingly annoying.

Flaoc
Aug 17, 2015, 04:05 PM
I wonder how many people would think differently of Diabo if they saw how easy it is solo (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26288402).

Stand in front of it and it forgets how to do anything besides spit fire.

agreed but op wants mpa so gave him mpa (sorta)

probably upper b or lower a if solo

LonelyGaruga
Aug 17, 2015, 04:33 PM
Right. Well, guess I'll give it a shot. XH difficulty of course.

E tier:

Gwanahda
Codotta-Edetta
Goronzoran
Magatsu Higan

D tier:

Falz Hunar
Falz Arm (single)
[Persona]
[Persona] (ver. Double Saber)
[Apprentice] Doppelganger
Rockbear
De Malmoth
Caterdra'n
Vol Dragon (C if phase 3)
Caterdra'nsa
Tranmizer
Vardha Soma
Org Blan
Bal Rodos (C if can't one-hook)
Rheo Madullard
Magatsu Shigan
Magatsu Sai

C tier:

Dark Ragne
Wolgahda
Zeshrayda
Decol Malluda
Blu Ringahda
Falz Arm (EQ)
Fang Banshee
Fang Banther
Snow Banshee
Snow Banther
Quartz Dragon
Dragon Ex
Chrome Dragon
Big Vardha
Biol Meduna
Nepto Cassadora
Anjhadu-lili
Gigur Gunne-gam
Guar Zigmorde
Vilma Leopard
Cougar NX
Knight Gear
Gal Gryphon

B tier:

Dark Falz Elder
Apos Dorios
Bayaribbles
Zeta Guranz
Magatsu

A tier:

Dark Vibras Yuga (if not TD3)
Falz Angel
Dark Falz Loser
Anga Fundarge
Plosiorgle
Diabo Igrythis
Falke Leone

Unrated: Falz Dourumble

Profound Darkness will probably be the sole occupant of S rank once it's implemented.

CoWorker
Aug 17, 2015, 06:25 PM
agreed but op wants mpa so gave him mpa (sorta)
Actually, you guys can do what you want, this thread is fun to read anyway :3

Will_2_Power
Aug 17, 2015, 06:36 PM
Annoying Bosses:

Rolling "Hot Wheels" mini-boss; so annoying and tedious as melee.

Both Leone and Leopard when you have aggro.

Falz Angel when solo.

Screen shaking Diabo and his thousands of minions.

*Other bosses aren't exactly "hard", but just tedious, especially if running solo.

Shinamori
Aug 17, 2015, 09:05 PM
SH/XH

S-Rank
Blu Ringa
Apos

A-Rank
Zigmor
Dragon Ex (Jumping Dragon)
Falz Angel

B-Rank
Quartz
Chrome
Vardha
Falz Hunar
Vol
Knight Gear
Cougar NX


C-Rank
Rockbear
Gwana
Falz Arm
Dark Ragne
Zeshy

Maenara
Aug 17, 2015, 09:13 PM
Someone should take this thread and average the tier of everybody's boss tiers.

Mattykins
Aug 17, 2015, 09:16 PM
lolfinalnemesis Tier:
All of them

ThePSOVeteran
Aug 18, 2015, 01:18 PM
I hate you so ******* much! Tier:
Bal Rodos (Coast/Facility)

Summon Haze Drall Pls Tier:
Nyau

F tier:
Rockbear
Gwana (unless XQ and on my HU/BR/BO, Karin! you suck with your impossible requirements!)
Goranzoran (why does he even exist?)

D tier:
De Malmoth
Mizer
Vardha Soma
Biol Meduna and its rare.
Org blan
Guar Zigmorde (I'm the only one that didn't die in Gaijin Games test run for Aida in my group even without units per her rules.)

C Tier:
Vol Dragon (B if I get bad patterns)
Both Caters
Hotwheels
Codetta
Zeshrayda
Falz Arm
Persona (both forms)
Dark Falz Elder
Decol Malluda
Dark Ragne
Big Vardha
Falz Hunar
Wolgahda/Algonahda (B if in bunches of 2 or more with only 2 people and everything else around, otherwise say hi to AIS/namegid!)

B Tier:
Fang/Snow Banshee (more a time waster if anything)
Blu Ringahda
Fang/Snow Banther (ditto)
Any GGG rare or non.
Rheo Madullard
Dark Vibrace
Nepto Cassadora
Gal Gryphon
Vol Dragon (full magma armor, A if bad patterns)
Chrome Dragon
Dark Falz Loser
Magatsu (stage 2)
Magatsu Sai

A Tier:
Fang/Snow Duo (hard to separate them alone.)
Noire Draal (faced it before, killed me easily first time I saw one. I was more too excited to do anything.)
Quartz Dragon (I get the most horrible version of AI for this every time.)
Nepto/Rheo (Annoying fucks!)
Haze Drall (fyi rares have higher stats if you didn't know.)
Zeta Guranz
Plosiorgles
Vilma Leopard
Falke Leone
Bayaribbles
Anga Fundarge
Apos Doritos
Falz Angel
Magatsu (stage 1)

S tier:
Diabo (no idea how I'd fare against it, I only seen it up close on the last LQ)
Falke Leone/Vilma Leopard duo (I just rage quit on these)


Because fawk u thats why tier:
Army of Gunkaisers (have I faced these even at all yet?)

SSS Tier:
Profound Darkness (probably)

Kapparian
Aug 18, 2015, 01:39 PM
I hate you so ******* much! Tier:
Bal Rodos (Coast/Facility)

Summon Haze Drall Pls Tier:
Nyau

F tier:
Rockbear
Gwana (unless XQ and on my HU/BR/BO, Karin! you suck with your impossible requirements!)
Goranzoran (why does he even exist?)

D tier:
De Malmoth
Mizer
Vardha Soma
Biol Meduna and its rare.
Org blan

C Tier:
Vol Dragon (B if I get bad patterns)
Both Caters
Hotwheels
Codetta
Zeshrayda
Falz Arm
Persona (both forms)
Dark Falz Elder
Decol Malluda
Dark Ragne
Big Vardha
Falz Hunar
Wolgahda/Algonahda (B if in bunches of 2 or more with only 2 people and everything else around, otherwise say hi to AIS/namegid!)

B Tier:
Fang/Snow Banshee (more a time waster if anything)
Blu Ringahda
Fang/Snow Banther (ditto)
Any GGG rare or non.
Rheo Madullard
Dark Vibrace
Nepto Cassadora
Gal Gryphon
Vol Dragon (full magma armor, A if bad patterns)
Chrome Dragon
Dark Falz Loser
Magatsu (stage 2)
Magatsu Sai

A Tier:
Fang/Snow Duo (hard to separate them alone.)
Noire Draal (faced it before, killed me easily first time I saw one. I was more too excited to do anything.)
Quartz Dragon (I get the most horrible version of AI for this every time.)
Nepto/Rheo (Annoying fucks!)
Haze Drall
Zeta Guranz
Plosiorgles
Vilma Leopard
Falke Leone
Bayaribbles
Anga Fundarge
Apos Doritos
Falz Angel
Magatsu (stage 1)

S tier:
Diabo (no idea how I'd fare against it, I only seen it up close on the last LQ)
Falke Leone/Vilma Leopard duo (I just rage quit on these)


Because fawk u thats why tier:
Army of Gunkaisers (have I faced these even at all yet?)

SSS Tier:
Profound Darkness (probably)



You seriously did not just separate Chrome Dragon and Haze Draal as a part of two different tiers... They're the same fucking boss, except one is the rare variant.

*facepalm*

Apos Dorios is not A-Tier either unless you suck as a Force, which you do.

Also, for the record, you're an idiot. The only enemies that have higher stats are Infected or Titled enemies. Rare Variants are not stronger than their normal counterparts.

What's even more pathetic is that you can't handle Bal Rodos, which is the EASIEST boss as a Force to deal with. You just Harpoon it and use a Combined Tech to take it down... Holy crap you are bad at this game.

Xaelouse
Aug 18, 2015, 01:47 PM
Falke/Vlima combo are good bosses because you actually need to break some parts if you want better chances to attack them with some weapons, like with Falke you need to break his wings before he goes into rage mode.

Mega Ultra Chicken
Aug 18, 2015, 04:04 PM
I guess I'll make a personal list and watch people berate me for sucking at the game. Note: this is only for SH and beyond.

D Tier: (Pretty easy. Some of these I just one-shot)

Rockbear
Cater'dran
Gwanahda
Big Vardha
Bal Rodos
Vardha Soma
Biol Meduna
Rheo Madullard
Falz Arms
Dark Falz Elder
Dark Vibrace
Persona


C Tier: (Gotta be more careful with these)

Vol Dragon
Snow/Fang Banshee/Banther
Wolgahda
Org Blan
Decol Malluda
Hot Wheels
Gigur Gunne-Gam
Nepto Cassadora (Alone and with Rheo at its side)
Codotta Idetta
Magatsu, Phase 1 (More annoying than deadly. It keeps fidgeting and teleporting.)
Magatsu, Phase 2


B Tier: (For the stuff in between C and A)

Zeshrayda (This boss is a lot easier before SH, honestly)
Blu Ringahda
Guar Zigmorde (She has really long reach. Could be A-tier for my melee classes.)
Apos Dorios
Dark Falz Loser


A Tier: (These ones are tough if I don't have good gear)

Quartz Dragon (Even three years later, this boss is still a pain in the ass)
Dragon Ex (Not as fast as Quartz, but still very aggressive)
Falz Hunar
Falz Angel
Knight Gear
Cougar NX
Anga Fundarge


S Tier: (Oh dear god why)

Diabo (Really quick and hard-hitting. A pain in the ass even with 12 people, so I don't even wanna know what soloing it would be like)

??? Tier: (Not enough non-MPA experience with these to judge)

Bayaribbles
Plosiorgles
Zeta Guranz
Falke Leone/Vilma Leopard
Chrome Dragon (I rarely have to fight one alone)
Gal Gryphon
Apprentice Doppelganger

Natsu Nem
Aug 18, 2015, 05:56 PM
I'm mostly a solo player so I can challenge myself. If I'm missing something, it means I haven't fought it enough to pass judgement on it or forgot about it entirely.

Free - It's a free win.
Rockbear
Caterdicks(C depending on AI)
Gwana
Mizers
Wolhonda
Rodos(C if I miss)
Falz Arms
Org Blan
Banshee
Goron(B if it somehow manages to summon)
De Malmoth

C Tier - Unremarkable.
Quartz
Luther (mpa or solo, he is really not threatening to me)
GGG
Chrome(B if fully charged)
Freaking Hot Wheels(More of an annoyance)
Banthers
Magatsu (With competent mpa)
Soma
Vol(B if reaches level 3 armor)
Vibrace
Ragne
Meduna

B Tier - Can put up some fight.
Malluda
Dorito (WTF tier if ice while using a bow)
Persona
Diablo
Zesh (A if playing GU)
Hunar
Angel
Ringahda (A if I don't have aggro on it)
Anga (A during finger lasers)

A Tier - These keep me at full attention.
Elder (Soloing, Free Tier if he didn't have the arm laser attack)
Dragon EX
Big Vardha (Way too many random factors)
Cougar

WTF Tier - Why? Just why?
Ship 2 TD2/3
Persona (If playing melee while mpa hitstun changes his attack frames)
Signo Gunkaisers
Knight Gear (Wtf are those hitboxes? ie Frontal vertical slash hits me while I'm behind it)
Magatsu (Horribad mpa)

WEED420BLAZEIT
Aug 18, 2015, 07:54 PM
it didn't even touch me tier:

1.Cyclonenahda guy

it's been 3 years and i'm still(sometimes) wondering how his hitboxes work

Stormwalker
Aug 19, 2015, 03:02 PM
It's funny how a particular boss is C-tier to one player and A-tier to another. Just goes to show that class and playstyle have a lot to do with it.

I'm not gonna rank 'em all, because I just came back to PSO2 after a long hiatus, so some I haven't fought recently, and some I haven't fought at all yet.

I play mostly FI and GU, and mostly solo, so this is largely from that perspective.

Don't deserve a tier:
Rockbear (if Rockbear actually hits me, I'm pretty disappointed in myself)
Cater-any (though they move up a rank in case of two)
Goronzoran (overnerfed much?)
Dark Ragne (admittedly, quite a bit more annoying without Daggers or TMG's)

C tier
Wohlgahda
Tranmizer
Org Blan
Decol Malluda (I hate him if I can't use Daggers, TMG's, or Dual Blades, though)
Biol Meduna
Zeshrayda
Falz Arm
Dragon EX
Big Vardha pre-SH
Vardha Soma
DF Elder
Banshee (Either)
Rheo Madullard
Gigur Gunne-gam
Whatsisname in the wheel
Guar Zigawatt

B tier
Vol Dragon
Persona (soloing. He actually gets harder in a party because it's easy to lose sight of him in the clutter and that's when he suddenly decides to make with the sonic arrow spam)
Doppelganger Apprentice (grain of salt, only fought once)
Blu Ringahda (I used to really hate him, then I got better.)
Either Banther
Quartz Dragon (he was my bane for a loooong time. And then I decided I was sick of that and went and soloed him 10 times to force myself to learn him better. And he's never been difficult since).
Cordetta-whatever (only fought twice)
Loser (but if your multiparty sucks, can be painful)

A tier
Chrome (mostly because I haven't fought him often enough)
Falz Hunar (I can never seem to get my timing right on this guy)
Falz Angel
Fang or Snow Pair (hard to keep both on screen!)
Apos Doritos (in this case, A for Annoying!)

ZephyrValgale
Aug 20, 2015, 04:15 PM
Note that I haven't really done Ultimate much, so I have no comment on Ult. Lillipa enemies. The only reason I have comment on Ult. Naberius enemies is because of the Gryphon LQ.

Easy Bosses:
Rockbear
Gwanahda
Rodos (Yes, including Facility.)
Goronzoran (It's silly how much Moment Gale cripples this boss. Or any AoE, for that matter.)
Falz Arms
Dark Falz Elder
Wolgahda
Org Blan
Tranmizer
Codotta Idetta
De Malmoth

Normal Bosses:
Zeshrayda
Blu Ringahda (Hug him, destroy the rings, and he's really not that bad.)
Vol Dragon (Unless it goes Full Armor - then it's Hard)
Magatsu Shigan
Gigur Gunne-gam
Caterdr'an/sa
Banther/Banshee (solo)
Rheo Maddulard
Big Vardha
Dark Falz Loser (Assuming the MPA doesn't suck - Lunatic if it does)
Apos Dorios (Fire)
Vardha Soma
Gal Gryphon
Biol Meduna
Knight Gear

Hard Bosses:
Apos Dorios (Ice/Lightning)
Chrome Dragon
Dragon Ex
Plosiorgles (Because Fire Rain and jumps.)
Bayaribbles
Anga Fundarge
Falz Hunar
Falz Angel
Cougar-NX
Banther/Banshee (paired)
Decol Malluda
Magatsu
Magatsu Higan (Mostly because of bad MPAs that go Ranged on it.)
Magatsu Sai (Mostly because of those same bad MPAs that go ranged on Higan, because of the 7 minute time limit for all three.)

Lunatic Bosses:
Diabo Igrithys (How do you stop this thing?)
Quartz Dragon(HEY GUYS, I HAVE A SERIES OF QUICK, POWERFUL ATTACKS. ON TOP OF THAT, SOME OF MY ATTACKS INFLICT PANIC, SO YOU CAN MORE EASILY WALK INTO MY OTHER, MORE PAINFUL ATTACKS!)
The Entirety of TD2/3 With a Bad PUG (Need I say more?)

EDIT: Added in the Magatsus I was missing.

GoldenFalcon
Aug 20, 2015, 04:20 PM
Lunatic Bosses:
Quartz Dragon(HEY GUYS)

If you can recognize when he's about to do his panic/instantkillAoE attacks, you can avoid getting hit by simply running around

The problem then is having the right PA to fit into small windows of opportunity, or simply doing enough damage to cause break animations (and his enraged animation) to kill him before he can attack more than once

Neith
Aug 21, 2015, 01:49 PM
Like someone already said, I think a lot of this depends on your playstyle and what classes you use. For me personally, coming from a solo perspective (aside from MPA-only bosses) and assuming SH or XH if available:

S-Tier (Difficult)
Big Vardha (I find it a complete pain in SH+ solo because of the Gilnach cores repairing everything and not being able to take out the missile launchers immediately. Still easy in a party).
Falz Angel (swipe hitbox is massive, lot of health, PP steal, freeze lasers can be a pain to dodge depending on cover)
Plosiorgles (ugh...)
Falke Leone (hard to hit something when it never stays still, tried this solo once and gave up :lol: )

A-Tier (not too bad but can sometimes pose problems)
Quartz Dragon (very class dependent though, FO for example wrecks it)
Blu Ringahda (Core isn't exposed long in SH+)
Dark Vibrace Yuga (like Vibrace just with even more health)
Apos Dorios (although I will say his health is borderline ridiculous in XH)
Dark Falz Luther (mostly predictable but does have a couple of nasty combos in XH; flaming floor x2 into tornadoes in centre for example)
Cougar NX (more because it's a pain to fight it twice)
Knight Gear (stun and freeze spam is irritating)
Anjhadu-lili (not hard as such, just irritating when it rolls all over the place)
Pajhadu-lin (same as Anjhadu-lili. I hate Code Chase)
Guar Zigmorde (Combination of Stun and Pain is horrible to deal with and she has massive attack range. However she is very predictable. Still haven't seen her do the 'Doom' attack!)
Magatsu (this is extremely party-dependent though)
Magatsu Higan
Magatsu Sai
Persona (Double Saber)
Bayaribbles
Diabo Igrithys (tons of health but very predictable. If I can solo this almost anyone can)
Zeta Guranz
Vilma Leopard
Anga Fandarge

B-Tier (very average)
Fang Banther (Claw swipes can be a bit unpredictable for me)
Snow Banther (see Fang Banther)
Fang Banshee
Vol Dragon (stage 3 armour)
Snow Banshee
Tranzexia (special mention as it has the 3rd transformation which catches people out)
Zeshrayda (all the sliding around is annoying in SH)
Dragon Ex
Bal Rodos (Facility)
Vardha Soma
Dark Ragne
Dark Vibrace (just has a lot of health)
Decol Malluda
Falz Hunar (but move this up to A if he has a title)
Dark Falz Elder
Gal Gryphon
Nepto Cassadora
Gigur Gunnegam
Magatsu Shigan
Apprentice Doppelganger
Chrome Dragon (though once powered up it has a couple of fairly dangerous attacks)

C-Tier (easy kills)
Rockbear
Caterdran
Vol Dragon (in stage 1-2 armour)
Gwanahda
De Malmoth
Tranmizer
Caterdransa
Wolgahda
Org Blan
Bal Rodos (Coast)
Codotta Idetta
Falz Arm
Biol Meduna
Rheo Madullard
Persona (Sword)

P-Tier (potato)
Goronzoran

Not fought
Falz Douran/Dourill/Dourumble (as Story only)

Chdata
Aug 21, 2015, 01:53 PM
I'm just going to rate everything F-tier because I never have trouble killing bosses as FoTe.



Big Vardha is my P-Tier, I have more trouble with goronzoron because it can actually fight back for a while.

dark nova
Aug 21, 2015, 04:06 PM
the bosses that really give me trouble as hu main, especially solo, since i'm not gonna categorize all:

falz angel
fire mammoth thing
leone (jumping one i think?)
df loser - mostly the projectiles and its hp bulk

special mention: ult lillipa ranged enemies especially gunkaizers (wtf)

ignoring recent bosses since i'm not sure about those yet, and i haven't completed ep3

everything else is very possible to solo for me, ignoring their hp, provided i'm not swamped by common enemies

milranduil
Aug 21, 2015, 09:39 PM
I'm just going to rate everything F-tier because I never have trouble killing bosses as FoTe.



Big Vardha is my P-Tier, I have more trouble with goronzoron because it can actually fight back for a while.

Of all the bosses you named that actually give you trouble (fight back), you named goronzoran.
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GoldenFalcon
Aug 21, 2015, 10:53 PM
Of all the bosses you [could have] named that actually give you trouble (fight back), you named goronzoran.

To be fair, it wasn't saying much.

Rakurai
Aug 21, 2015, 11:15 PM
Once I realized that Megid explosions prioritize hitting the crystals around Goranzoran over his shield, he went from F tier to potato.

I'm thinking Falz Dourumble is probably going to be B tier assuming a 12 person MPA and XH, because compared to Angel, they really don't have many attacks that are threatening to multiple players, nor do they use them often. I'm not understanding how their HP works, either, because I've seen multiple videos where they got KO'd after taking a minimal amount of damage after they fused, whereas it felt like I had to do close to half a million before they finally dropped. Perhaps any damage you deal to the twin who doesn't have their HP depleted prior to the fusion is carried over to the fused form, because I was targeting one of them exclusively, whereas as the players I watched were going ham on both of them with melee AoE PAs.

TaigaUC
Aug 23, 2015, 09:02 AM
Falz Angel can make himself "difficult" by teleporting into the heavens and staying there, where nearly nobody can touch him for ages.
"I'm so powerful, wasting everybody's time!"